#TCMchat Archive


Wednesday March 8, 2017
9:00 PM EST

  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
    We are pleased that you are here. Let’s get to know each other. #TCMchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi #TCMChat friends. Zak Champagne here - researcher at @lsifsu at @floridastate. Honored to work with and learn from you all tonight.
    In reply to @lsifsu, @floridastate
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
    I am Mandy Jansen, Associate Professor at the University of Delaware. Mathematics teacher educator, elementary and middle grades. #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
    About to participate in tonight's #TCMchat!
  • MissMath_Teach Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Lori Breyfogle from Missouri K-6 math interventionist #TCMchat
  • CindyCliche1 Mar 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Cindy Cliche, Math Coordinator in Murfreesboro City Schools. Looking forward to the discussion tonight. #TCMchat
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Q1 How do you (or your colleagues) create #math professional learning opportunities? #TCMchat #MathPLC
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi, I'm Zack Hill, K-5 Math Coach in St. Petersburg, FL #TCMchat
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hello - I'm Megan, in Dubai... teaching & learning coach PK-G8 math. Looking forward to our chat! #TCMchat
  • EduGladiators Mar 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
    đŸ’¡This week #EduGladiators series "4Cs of Success" continues with CRITICAL THINKING! #scitlap #TCMchat #OhEdChat #UDLChat #INMUSChat #Txed
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I know @IanWhitacre for sure. He's an amazing colleague and friend! #TCMChat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd, @IanWhitacre
  • davidwees Mar 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: Engage in instructional routines to do math together and talk about teaching. #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 online study groups with teachers combining reading discussion and self-chosen video discussions. #TCMchat
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: working w ea. grade's numeracy lead to plan-for-learning mtgs. Mindset of school, teachers to engage in shared, prof learning. #TCMchat
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 I've used video clips in face to face sessions because it creates a safe way to closely examine practice in a relevant context. #TCMchat
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q2 Describe how the #CCSS Math Practices look, feel, and develop in your classroom with your students. #TCMchat
  • MrsG2nd Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Joining late. Rene Grimes, Texas. Former PK, 1st, 2nd Tchr. First year doc student: learning disabilities (math). #TCMchat
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Hi, Barry from Brooklyn NY. Math coach grades 3-5. Looking forward to my first twitter chat. #tcmchat
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 (b): in coaching role, looking for opps to connect Ts on shared areas of interest in their practice - through learning walks #TCMchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome Barry. Stoked that you're here with us at #TCMChat
    In reply to @_barry_rust_
  • MikeFlynn55 Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 Poll Ts to see what they're interested in and then create online professional learning opportunities based on interests & needs #TCMchat
  • MrsG2nd Mar 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
    they are addicting. Might want to follow #elemmathchat #mtbos #SwDMathChat too! #tcmchat
    In reply to @_barry_rust_
  • CindyCliche1 Mar 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: This year we are implementing grade level math networks composed of teachers from different schools across the district. #tcmchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2: Read @MikeFlynn55's book. It's all there. #TCMChat https://t.co/0ctAaQ0vOn
    In reply to @MikeFlynn55
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Lots of lesson studies, with small group designing the lesson and a larger group observing based on designers' goals. #TCMchat
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2 S's doing the thinking with the T facilitating just enough in order to stay out of the way of S's engaging in the practices. #TCMchat
  • pearse_margie Mar 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1 In 1st, Ss were learning equivalence & were set to task investigating Ss had 2 persevere, be precise, look 4 generalization, etc.#tcmchat
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Nice! I love lesson study. It seems like the video clubs had a similar focus on evidence of student understanding. #TCMchat
    In reply to @_barry_rust_
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: MP are embedded throughout or instructional materials - Ts can identify ahead of unit, talk through & focus on S learning #TCMchat
  • reneelynnsnyder Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: SMPs develop thru tasks as Ss productively struggle, grapple w/concepts, reflect on and refine thinking/ideas, make conjectures #TCMchat
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Q3 What suggestions do you have for ensuring that collegial discussions on teaching and learning focus on evidence of Ss’ thinking? #TCMchat
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Agree! I loved imagining doing this video work with my Ts and that question made me see the connection between the two. #TCMchat
    In reply to @zack_hill
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2(b): S awareness of "how mathematicians think" and what that looks like; T models MPs, Ss engage. Equal importance on MP #TCMchat
  • CindyCliche1 Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Q3: Important to let educators know before video that the focus is on student learning. Begin with the end in mind. #tcmchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A3: Allow for time to talk about those things. Give teachers the opportunity to discuss. Then, move to student thinking #TCMChat
  • reneelynnsnyder Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: Focus on content, progressions, and what Ss are able to do in order to support them across the continuum of learning #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3 I've been surprised to find structured prompts / sentence starters are as helpful for adults as they are for younger learners! #TCMchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Big fan of this suggestion too. Tell participants what to look for and listen for before the discussion. Provide focus in advance. #TCMChat
    • CindyCliche1 Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
      Q3: Important to let educators know before video that the focus is on student learning. Begin with the end in mind. #tcmchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    .@Zakchamp sounds like the open sharing that took place first in the article #TCMchat
    In reply to @Zakchamp
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 Many ways we try. One thing is providing the same concrete tools for range of topics, trying to make connections when we can. #tcmchat
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3 Norms, carefully planned questions from facilitator, and asking permission to go somewhere unplanned with the conversation. #TCMchat
  • reneelynnsnyder Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Critical Friends r imperative 2 have professional convos that challenge thinking, ultimately impacting Ss lrning @devin_andersond #TCMchat
    In reply to @devin_andersond
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3: third point data is S work, questions guide focus/convo, protocols for LASW - becomes "what we do" as part of prof T&L practice #TCMchat
  • MrsG2nd Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I think this is important because it acknowledges these are variables connected to their real classroom; then move on. #tcmchat
    In reply to @Zakchamp
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Yes! I can find myself wishing for a sentence starter when I'm asked to talk about something new or in a new way #TCMchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd
  • mpershan Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Also, the current #tcmchat feels a bit like the sort of chat you might host, if I understand things correctly?
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    agreed! We have Norms for Collaboration schoolwide, used to guide prof convo/work, etc @AdaptiveSchools #tcmchat
    In reply to @zack_hill, @AdaptiveSchools
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I've appreciated opportunities to play with sentence starters as a learner, too - helps me try on new ideas. #TCMchat
    In reply to @_barry_rust_
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
    there is a #TCMchat happening right now. :)
    In reply to @mpershan, @getting_sharper
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 My experience with lesson study has been that its helpful to start with a goal that everyone has agreed on at the outset #tcmchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I learned everything I know about this topic from our authors. :) #TCMChat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q4 What questions do you have about video clubs? What kinds of video would be helpful to watch in your work? #TCMChat #EdTech
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: I'm a fan of videos that show student thinking. In my opinion, that's where the real discussion happens. #TCMChat
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
    educators "walk" through practice w/5-7 min obs, set of guiding Qs focus/purpose, reflection - "rounds" in med world. #tcmchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4 What are the differences when teachers discuss a video of a teacher they know versus a teacher they've never met? #TCMchat
  • DrKChilds Mar 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4: Videos that highlight teacher<->student discourse and student <-> student discourse. With diverse student populations #tcmchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4 What norms do you promote for discussing classroom video? Can you share them? #TCMchat
  • reneelynnsnyder Mar 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4: Have u found success in cross grade level video clubs? What grade bands? Did you look at specific domains at each session? #tcmchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Here are norms for video-based discussion shared by Hilda Borko at @TDGMath last week. #TCMchat
    In reply to @TDGMath
  • CindyCliche1 Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Used student videos today with teachers to show place value understanding. Great discussions, questions, and next steps. #tcmchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
    You nailed it buddy. So often we see only videos of Caucasian, affluent students solving problems. #TCMChat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: our coaching work is to meet Ts where they are, T might look at clips of their own prac only. I'd like to nudge video clubs. #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    yes, when the video club addressed aspects of classroom engagement that cut across grade bands #TCMchat
    In reply to @reneelynnsnyder
  • CindyCliche1 Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4: What length of time works best for the videos? #tcmchat
  • MrsG2nd Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 depends on learning goal. I agree watching videos of students is HUGE, discuss misconceptions, etc. Can't dig as deep in class. #TCMchat
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 The article mentions the EM site as a source for videos. Any other good ones? Like starting with neutral vids b/f taping ourslvs #tcmchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Yep! And they want to see the students that are representative of our country. Not just the country clubs. #TCMChat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I like these - remind me of third point data and not personalization of T her/himself. #tcmchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd, @TDGMath
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Great question! My vote is 2-3 minutes. What do others think? #TCMChat
  • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
    When teachers watch videos of each other teach, how does pride and teacher identity affect their discussion? #TCMchat
    In reply to @TCM_at_NCTM
  • DrKChilds Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
    What's funny when Ts see diverse Ss, they are still nonbelievers. That's when u have to model teach in their classroom to show them #tcmchat
    • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
      Yep! And they want to see the students that are representative of our country. Not just the country clubs. #TCMChat
      In reply to @DrKChilds
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yeah, the shorter the better. Under 5 min. for sure. #TCMchat
    In reply to @Zakchamp
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q5 How might video clubs support teachers in making sense of the math practices? #TCMchat
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    our materials (Everyday Math) provide them for Ts and offer Virtual Lrng Cmty for Ts to share. Another is @mburnsmath #tcmchat
    In reply to @_barry_rust_, @mburnsmath
  • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    @CindyCliche1 Agreed. Max 3 minutes for a video. Especially when doing online video clubs #TCMchat
    In reply to @Zakchamp, @CindyCliche1
  • reneelynnsnyder Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: I think it would b interesting 2 c Ss at difrnt grade levels solve the same problem and use S work 2 have content convo w/ Ts #tcmchat
  • megbates_stemed Mar 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
    We like 2-3 minutes as well; no longer than 5! #TCMChat
    In reply to @Zakchamp
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A5 perhaps by challenging viewers to operationalize a practice by identifying when it's happening in the video #TCMchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Definitely! #TCMChat
    In reply to @professorteds, @CindyCliche1
  • DrKChilds Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5: Allows Ts to see the practices enacted. On paper the MPs can seem abstract to some #tcmchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    So true. I can only take so much of "my kids can't'" before it becomes, "well, can I come teach your kids?" #TCMChat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Yes, so important for T's to see evidence of S reasoning and commit to what MP they think they're seeing w/ evidence. #TCMchat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
    .@DrKChilds trying to see and identify the practices is a way of starting to make sense of them. #TCMchat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Yeah, I've found that Ts have hard time engaging in talk when video is about their kid or own teaching. #TCMchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
    using data point to separate the facilitator from the data; maintains neutrality. Safely talk about data, not person. #tcmchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Thanks for this Theodore! I'll adjust my language for sure. I appreciate you calling it out. #TCMChat
    • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Hey Zak, just an FYI that some find the term "Caucasian" problematic b/c implies race as biological. I use "white"
      In reply to @Zakchamp, @DrKChilds
  • MrsG2nd Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 @MandyMathEd exactly what we are doing with our research team. It's just good pedagogy. #modeling real life not theoretical. #tcmchat
    • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
      A5 perhaps by challenging viewers to operationalize a practice by identifying when it's happening in the video #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
    makes sense - wonder if it's different online than face-to-face at all? #TCMchat
    In reply to @professorteds
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
    thanks! you're interpreting for me tonight! #TCMchat
    In reply to @megyzr
  • _barry_rust_ Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Yes--like when we explore ideas in math, we may act them out as well as talk/write about them. #tcmchat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
    agreed. We have lots of video clips of ALL our Ss doing the math, the talking, engaging in MPs. #tcmchat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I've seen this too - the teacher on video is quiet. When it's likely that they have the most to share. #TCMChat
    In reply to @professorteds, @MandyMathEd
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Tonight's #TCMchat is my first attempt at a Twitter chat. I'm finding it hard to remember the hashtag, but not too hard to follow along. FUN
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5: see/hear in action, discuss what Ss are doing, Ts reflect/think again. Look for opps to share model of what it looks like #TCMchat
  • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5 I like to use the metaphor of videos as "windows" into another world of practice. Allow Ts to see children's math thinking #TCMchat
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q6 Let’s end by sharing your ideas & resources that support professional learning conversations - specific to implementing CCSS #TCMchat
  • zack_hill Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Also seen this, but also so powerful when confident T chimes in about their own Ss reasoning. #TCMchat
    In reply to @Zakchamp, @professorteds, @MandyMathEd
  • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
    It's something I'm working on now, how to utilize online chats to create rich in-person professional math talk #TCMchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
    .@professorteds my experience has been w/teachers who have already known each other for multiple years - it was like I joined them #TCMchat
    In reply to @professorteds
  • MrsG2nd Mar 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5 When tchng reading Ts sometimes rec S, play back 4 S & reflect together. Could do this w/math & rec S reflecting on their video #TCMchat
  • professorteds Mar 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Great seeing you here! Thanks to you and @dspangler811 for helping get tonight's article free from the paywall! #TCMchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd, @dspangler811
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6 what about the progressions documents? I'd like to work more with those. #TCMchat
    • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6 Let’s end by sharing your ideas & resources that support professional learning conversations - specific to implementing CCSS #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
    happy to participate! I want to participate in #TCMchat again!
    In reply to @professorteds, @dspangler811
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
    And we want your voice here! So glad that you could join! #TCMChat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd, @professorteds, @dspangler811
  • Cheryl_UChicago Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
    we found this to be more effective also #TCMchat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd, @professorteds
  • DrKChilds Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A7: The "Making Sense of Mathematics for Teaching Series" is a helpful resource, it includes authentic videos & follow-up questions #tcmchat
    • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6 Let’s end by sharing your ideas & resources that support professional learning conversations - specific to implementing CCSS #TCMchat
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I love it when a video recorded teacher gets firm and tells the group what he/she thinks. #TCMChat
    In reply to @zack_hill, @professorteds, @MandyMathEd
  • DrKChilds Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: The "Making Sense of Mathematics for Teaching Series" is a helpful resource, it includes authentic videos & follow-up questions #tcmchat
    • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6 Let’s end by sharing your ideas & resources that support professional learning conversations - specific to implementing CCSS #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
    what did you find to be more effective? #TCMchat - can you explain?
    In reply to @Cheryl_UChicago, @professorteds
  • TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Author @megbates_stemed wrote 2 blog posts on this topic. Here's 1: https://t.co/y3BM67KuDW The 2nd post will be out on 3/13 #TCMchat
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: Everyday Math VLC; Progressions Zimba; Illustrative Maths; YouCubed; NCTM ARCs / Reasoning & Sense Making Tasks #TCMchat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
    do you have a link for this series? #TCMchat
    In reply to @DrKChilds
  • megyzr Mar 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
    yes agreed! We also use SeeSaw, ShowMe apps / Google Classroom for Ss to capture & share their thinking #TCMchat
    In reply to @MrsG2nd
  • Zakchamp Mar 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
    We are stoked that @Megbates_stemed wrote these two follows up posts. Lots more conversation happening at the TCM blog #TCMChat
  • MandyMathEd Mar 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
    .@MrsG2nd yes! @Melissoto has students do screencasts of their own problem solving! #TCMchat
    In reply to @MrsG2nd, @Melissoto