#sblchat Archive

Wednesday December 14, 2016
9:00 PM EST
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Good evening and welcome to #sblchat! Tonight we are talking about the Basics of Standards Based Grading. Please start intros...
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:01 PM EST
    I'm Garnet, an instructional coach from IL, always pleased to co-moderate with my friend @RoweRikW #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Dave Wheeler, Elementary principal, Thompson, ND #Sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Good evening Dave! #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Michelle Kuhns, Director of Learning, American School of Dubai, UAE #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello there #sblchat! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the very chilly Chicagoland area tonight! #brrr #winterishere
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Grateful for the time change in the US. Signing in from Dubai at 6am. Happy it's not 5am! Excited to join my first #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello #sblchat So excited to learn with this crew!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    We are glad to have you with us Michelle! #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Rik in MA. #HSMath in a Standards-Based learning environment. Thanks to my co-moderator and Great Friend @garnet_hillman! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Tom from "frigid" (-4 C) Vancouver, BC. Ready to get my #sblchat on!
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    How exciting! This is a great chat. #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi Mandi! #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Katie, it should HEAT up in #sblchat tonight! Just wait.
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Good evening Tom! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • briandvoss Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #sblchat Brian Voss, Social Studies at Libertyville High School
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Good morning @MichelleKuhns! Great to "see" you! #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Dave! #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Brad in Bangkok. Heading soon to Minnesota and a polar vortex Christmas holiday. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi Brian! #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I read it every week, after the fact. Happy to be here today! #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Michelle, pleased for you to join your #sblchat Crew!
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #sblchat I'm Randy, HS chemistry and physical science coach from Michigan, I'll be in and out tonight.
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Brett from balmy Iowa! Be jealous, my friends! 6th G Math/Sci/SS #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Like this tweet if you're new to #sblchat so we can welcome you to our Standards-Based Learning Potpourri tonight!
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Ken O’Connor from even more frigid Toronto -10C with up to 30cm snow on the way. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Brian, glad to see you in #sblchat tonight! Welcome!
    In reply to @briandvoss
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Dave - HS SS jumping on the #sblchat train tonight
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Adam Lester, English teacher from Batavia High School, I was just talking about SBG today with colleagues. Can't wait. #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Happy to 'see' you, too! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • mafarrace Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Bonsoir- Missie from Falls Church, VA ...pulling out all the warm coats, gloves,scarves etc for tomorrow! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Brad, always thrilled to learn alongside you! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Brad! It is going to be a cold Christmas in Chicago too. Windchill will be -20 tomorrow. #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Brett! #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    You may be "all in" if you stay for the entire chat! #sblchat
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Missouri is sharing some weather with you then. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi Ken! We have had two big snows the past two weekends and another lined up for Friday-Saturday! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Kindly welcome Elaine {@elaine_dion} to our #sblchat Crew tonight!
    In reply to @elaine_dion
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    That's great Adam! #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Good evening #sblchat! Mike, middle school principal in PA
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Megan from ASDubai also (Hi Michelle!), but sitting in Michigan right now. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome aboard! #sblchat
    In reply to @DRich0696
  • SPPS_Richardson Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Paul from MN. Also, cold. Really cold. #sblchat
  • CjSieling34 Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hello from MN! -20 windchill and lots of snow on the way! But tomorrow is Star Wars Day! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Shawn is a great educator! Let's learn together! #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss, @ShawnMcCusker
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi Missie! #sblchat
    In reply to @mafarrace
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    All this talk in metrics has me confused. -6°(F) and we've had 20 inches of snow in last 9 days #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
      Ken O’Connor from even more frigid Toronto -10C with up to 30cm snow on the way. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Brett, okay, we're jealous! #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Sooo international tonight! #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hey, Coach! #sblchat
    In reply to @megyzr
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Always good to chat with you Mike! #sblchat
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 What is the purpose of grading? #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Haha @kenoc7, there is a reason I put frigid in quotes. We're a little soft on the #bestcoast, even for Canada! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Sorry about the metrics but it is how the world works! #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi Paul! #sblchat
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #sblchat Matt, central office administrator from Iowa.
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Good Man, Coach! Let's hope they follow you to #sblchat tonight!
    • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
      Adam Lester, English teacher from Batavia High School, I was just talking about SBG today with colleagues. Can't wait. #sblchat
  • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I'm always all in the SBL! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    But that is COLD for you. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Elaine, this is a very dedicated Crew! #sblchat
    In reply to @elaine_dion
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Katie White from Canada, where it is ridiculously cold. #justwhy #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Awesome to have you in the chat tonight Matt! #sblchat
    In reply to @mctownsley
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hiya! Staying warm? #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1- Most important question when it comes to SBG. Communicate what a student knows and can do. Not compliance. #sblchat
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 To gauge where my S are at so that I can personalize instruction to their needs. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 Grades should be used to communicate where students are academically in relation to the standards at a given moment in time. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 - One purpose of grading is to communicate the most recent learning that has been demonstrated. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Mike, pleased to share #sblchat with you tonight!
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    attempting... #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Here We Grow Together! #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    As I said @kenoc7 "frigid!" #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Yes! In relation to standards, not peers or percentages. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
      A1 Grades should be used to communicate where students are academically in relation to the standards at a given moment in time. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Megan, welcome! #sblchat
    In reply to @megyzr
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Chris, nice to have you share #sblchat with your Crew!
    In reply to @CjSieling34
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 We DO NOT grade to punish students, rank and sort them, or encourage competition for learning. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 To communicate levels of academics compared to a standard. Creates common language for stakeholders: student, parent, & teacher. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 - An important purpose of grading is to share the what (Standards) that has been learned. Let's not muddy the waters. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1) it should be to measure learning. Sadly, it's currently set up for class rank and college entrance. #sblchat
  • mrstokes24 Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Scott Stokes from Macomb Michigan, 8th grade Utica Comm Schls #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 The purpose of grades is-or should be- to communicate student achievement in summary format to whomever should be able to know. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Matt, honored when you can join your #sblchat Crew!
    In reply to @mctownsley
  • CjSieling34 Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 grades are communication with stakeholders about current achievement regarding standards #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    True - and in the same line of thinking, grades are not rewards. This is sometimes a hard one for parents to get. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1) Communicate learning (although ‘grading’ as we often know it is not the only way to communicate learning) #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: A final grade should communicate the level of proficiency or amount of information that was actually learned. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    RT Q1 What is the purpose of grading? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 - Our Learners transition from one teacher to another. It's crucial for the 2nd to know exactly where the Learner is proficient. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Chilly maybe, but this #sblchat Crew is SMOKIN'!
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    hey, Rick! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: We grade to reflect on a degree of proficiency in relation to a standard and then we usually keep track of it so we can share. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Hi Katie! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Grading is abt the verifying learning, synthesizing achievement info, & reporting to others abt stu proficiency vs standards #sblchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Brett, Lamar, Mo., aspiring teacher #SBLChat. Sorry for being late!
  • mafarrace Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 to see where students are at a given moment in order to keep moving forward or pause and stay a little longer #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Nicely stated... #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1 To communicate levels of academics compared to a standard. Creates common language for stakeholders: student, parent, & teacher. #sblchat
  • SPPS_Richardson Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: grades can be feedback on skills and information on mastery, as well as an indicator of growth...When used to reflect learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    No worries, welcome Brett! #sblchat
    In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 - Our Learners, their Parents, future teachers and colleges deserve to know exactly what Standard have been demonstrated. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome Scott! #sblchat
    In reply to @mrstokes24
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Obviously used for those purposes but it isn't OUR purpose. Class rank should go the way of the dodo. #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome fellow Missourian. #sblchat
    In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Purpose of grades & reporting must be clearly communicated to Ps & Ss. And check for understanding too! #sblchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    @garnet_hillman Thank you!! #SBLChat
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Brett, you're back! YES! #sblchat
    In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    This is very good. #sblchat
    • mafarrace Dec 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1 to see where students are at a given moment in order to keep moving forward or pause and stay a little longer #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: To communicate student learning and progress to stakeholders-namely the student, Ps, future Ts, coaches, counselors #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    along with GPA and valedictorian... #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @DaveWheeler11
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: 'Grading' as a verb (SA) is a timeless & essential part of balanced assessment systems; as noun it is negotiable #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    agree class rank could/should be removed from all secondary schools. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @DaveWheeler11
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Sharing the same brain... #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1: To communicate student learning and progress to stakeholders-namely the student, Ps, future Ts, coaches, counselors #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Agreed! #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @kenoc7, @DaveWheeler11
  • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #sblchat A1: "Grading" or giving grades has no real positive purpose, which is why we should do away with it!
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Sometimes grading information can help us plan future learning if we look at the long game;can also help w/transition planning #sblchat
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: grading = a way to communicate WITH Ss, where they are, where they're going, what learning is happening #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    @mssackstein #sblchat
    In reply to @mssackstein
    • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
      #sblchat A1: "Grading" or giving grades has no real positive purpose, which is why we should do away with it!
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Put simply: to communicate learning. Sometimes I call them a "measurement of learning" in class. #sblchat
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Arriving late for #sblchat after a few weeks off. Spent this afternoon discussing @TomSchimmer's book with @prinz_matt and company!
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @prinz_matt
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Isn’t that what descriptive feedback does? Grades not so much. #sblchat
    In reply to @megyzr
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    @mafarrace I do this formatively and don't assign a grade until the end. In my mind "grade" is the end of learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11, @mafarrace
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    We frequently use low grades to adjust our instruction, right? #sblchat
    • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
      A1: Sometimes grading information can help us plan future learning if we look at the long game;can also help w/transition planning #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Hi Arthur! #sblchat
    In reply to @hhschiaravalli
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Welcome Friend! #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    because a list of standards and how well a student met them tells so much more than B+ #sblchat
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    @briandvoss Thank you Brian. #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I think that is my overall hunch - grading? Do we need it? Can't it be a feedback loop? #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    .@RoweRikW Yeah, and we can engage in goal setting "How can we apply our strengths to the next standard?" #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Is grading (verb) essential? As in the act of giving a grade? Or do you refer to providing feedback to learners about learning? #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1: 'Grading' as a verb (SA) is a timeless & essential part of balanced assessment systems; as noun it is negotiable #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I hope @MrStefferCVHS you don't mean getting rid of summative assessment? #sblchat
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    @MichelleKuhns What is the early morning temperature in Dubai? #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Feeling this more and more @MrSteffer: #sblchat has slowly but surely led me to #ttog
    In reply to @Mrsteffer
    • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
      #sblchat A1: "Grading" or giving grades has no real positive purpose, which is why we should do away with it!
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Agreed, Katie! #sblchat
    • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
      .@RoweRikW Yeah, and we can engage in goal setting "How can we apply our strengths to the next standard?" #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q2 Share some reasons/examples why schools should evaluate/improve their grading practices. #sblchat
  • mafarrace Dec 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Every year I try to get rid of awards night. Only progress- now takes place in the afternoon. #sblchat
    In reply to @mctownsley, @kenoc7, @DaveWheeler11
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q2 is hot of the #sblchat press...
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 Many times grades are used as a motivational strategy. This does not work! Revise the thinking - success in learning motivates. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 - Our Learners deserve to have their grades have meaning and based solely on what learning has been demonstrated thus far. #sblchat
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 When a S receives a lower grade based on homework completion. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Reevaluation of grading is imperative because traditional grading is not really measuring learning. #sblchat
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Students are conditioned that a number defines them in current system. "How much is this worth?" vs "What are we learning now?" #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #STOPIT #sblchat #Humor
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A lovely 63F/17C this morning. Perfect time of year to be here. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Because our current systems may be miscommunicating and even harming students. Learning can become about the wrong thing #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    1) I'm talking abt the summative purpose of assessment @MeganCMoMo The term 'grading' gets thrown around but has multiple meanings #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Traditional grades mix behaviors and academic achievement together. Confusing and inaccurate. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 - I had a Learner this week ask me to speak with one of her other teachers about the need for re-learning and re-assessing! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 In a traditional setting, grades are what students are trained to work for. Yet high grades don’t necessarily equal learning. #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q2) Consider eliminating all extra credit as an easy first step for the building. #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Grades include SOOOO much more than knowledge. How do we know what a S knows with a C+ when that could just be compliance? #sblchat
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: @dylanwiliam's research on the 3 types of feedback. It short-circuits growth, engenders a fixed mindset #sblchat
    In reply to @dylanwiliam
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Lots of cheating is a bi-product of just trying to get a "good mark". Healthy grading practices would severely reduce cheating #sblchat
  • briandvoss Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1: New to #sblchat, seems like learning culture of all Ts, Ss, & Ps must shift to redefine traditional def of grades. Where do you start?
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Please #STOPIT. #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
      A2 Traditional grades mix behaviors and academic achievement together. Confusing and inaccurate. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Received an email from a student today freaking out because they are failing an 8th grade subject because of homework. #sblchat
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: schools can run an "audit" Do the Ss know where they are / where they need to go / how to get there #sblchat
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Grading when done poorly is toxic. Poisons the well on classroom culture, building culture, and Ss attitudes towards learning. #sblchat
  • lewickiDJO Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: grading can be inconsistent and subjective from T to T=P and S animosity or idea that grades are "given" #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Thank you Matt! #sblchat
    • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q2) Consider eliminating all extra credit as an easy first step for the building. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Traditional grading(points, percents, averages, and punitive methods) are outdated and unethical. We can do better. #sblchat
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: Mixing proficiency and behavior typically benefits Caucasian learners of high socio-economic status #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    RT Q2 Share some reasons/examples why schools should evaluate/improve their grading practices. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Start with purpose - why do we grade? #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss
  • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Absolutely not, but giving feedback to Ss is far more positive for learning, Even if it's a summarize assessment. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2) we've created a generation of kids who are more focused on a grade than what they learned. We need to change that emphasis #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    'Giving' a letter of the alphabet is not essential, @MeganCMoMo but the summative purpose of assessment is. Need to be clear #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    True story. My son this last Tri, Did UP his grade with extra credit completion. #sblchat #cantmakethisstuffup
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2) Our grading practices communicate a lot about what we value. SBG puts learning over points/behavior #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    This ought not be.... #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
      A2 Received an email from a student today freaking out because they are failing an 8th grade subject because of homework. #sblchat
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Mike, Founder of @TeacherEase, running a little late, nice to be here #sblchat
    In reply to @TeacherEase
  • prinz_matt Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2. If we ask students to learn "X" we should then only evaluate their understanding of "X" #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Really liking the way you said this. #changethatfocus #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Hey #sblchat friends happy December! Wis 2 degrees
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    and then you can do an analysis of what goes into a grade...academics, behaviors, growth...it is a muddy mess! #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Got it. Important to remember that a summative assessment is still essential. Thanks. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • mafarrace Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    @KatieWhite426 Yes- both directions. V helpful. Hardest is helping Ss understand not just me working- we're together #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @KatieWhite426
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2) SBG promotes growth, improvement and communicates a support for learning #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2p2: Why do we average quarters together? Why do we average learning with summative? Why do we give points for seat time? #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Of course, @MrStefferCVHS but if any kind of reporting/synthesizing is involved then assess is being used primarily as a summative #sblchat
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Improving grading practices leads Ts to explore better feedback practices, which impacts learning much more than grading itself #sblchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    We started with philosophical searching, research & making specific changes & then reflecting & talking it through. #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Grading is always subjective. We need to strive for consistency with subjective judgment. #sblchat
    In reply to @lewickiDJO
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2) Traditional grading is a hodgepodge of misinformation. #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Happens often (sadly) #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Mike, pleased to see you in #sblchat tonight.
    In reply to @xakellis, @TeacherEase
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    So true, everything we do is communication. Let's make sure we communicate that learning comes first! #sblchat
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: it's time for schools to rid the classroom of a system that is a only a game to be figured out and played by students. #sblchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Or not focused on a grade at all, which means we lose them, fail them, diminish their gifts #sblchat
    • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
      A2) we've created a generation of kids who are more focused on a grade than what they learned. We need to change that emphasis #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Wait, points for seat time? That's a thing? I'm hoping it isn't what I think it is ... #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 Averaging grades is unscientific. Ask @ltoddrose with "End of Average." #sblchat
    In reply to @ltoddrose
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    The symbols aren't as important @MeganCMoMo as the process used to determine symbols. Reorganizing evidence > changed symbols #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    We eliminated marking periods so we don't average quarters anymore. Year long grading period. #sblchat
    • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
      A2p2: Why do we average quarters together? Why do we average learning with summative? Why do we give points for seat time? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Mandi, speak it LOUD and Bold! #sblchat
    • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
      A2p2: Why do we average quarters together? Why do we average learning with summative? Why do we give points for seat time? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Welcome Mike! #sblchat
    In reply to @xakellis
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Whooa! Chasing the elephant in the room! #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
      A2: it's time for schools to rid the classroom of a system that is a only a game to be figured out and played by students. #sblchat
  • ChrisRugg Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Chris from IL. Glad to be here. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    BAM!!! We trained them into, we have to train them out of grade grubbing by creating a culture of learning. #sblchat
    • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
      A2) we've created a generation of kids who are more focused on a grade than what they learned. We need to change that emphasis #sblchat
  • mrstokes24 Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 inflated grades based on non academic behaviors #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    you get points if you are present. :-( #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2) Traditional grading and using averages doesn't tell us anything about learning. Need to assess what is taught regularly #sblchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Yes, we really have to shift some beliefs around what learning should look like, sound like and feel like. #sblchat
    In reply to @mafarrace, @RoweRikW
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: Often what's "objectively" measurable is the least valuable type of learning. Assessment, yes; measurement, not sure anymore #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Chris, glad to have you join our #sblchat Crew!
    In reply to @ChrisRugg
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Our HS is moving to year long grading next year as well. Ts have seen the light around the semester stop. #sblchat
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Let's keep sharing so all can learn... #sblchat
    • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
      Yes, we really have to shift some beliefs around what learning should look like, sound like and feel like. #sblchat
      In reply to @mafarrace, @RoweRikW
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 #sblchat we don't need grades just feedback once u put a grade on a paper the learning stops
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Yes. Averaging - and points and % - are things that have to go. #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Yep, that's what I was thinking. Yow. #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Hi Chris! #sblchat
    In reply to @ChrisRugg
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: Standards-based teaching requires SB assessments, SB evidence, and SB grading & reporting. Traditional disjointed from SBL #sblchat
  • mrstokes24 Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 if learning is the goal, grading practice should reflect just that! #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And yes, WE created grade chasers not knowledge seekers. SBL changes that focus. #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Joining late! HS instructional coach, Beaufort county, SC #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    #STOPTHIS #sblchat
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    that's awesome. Keep me posted on how it goes. #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And our foundational book was 15 Fixes by @kenoc7 We had many discussions over each chapter #sblchat
    In reply to @briandvoss, @kenoc7
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    You're kidding, right? #sblchat
    • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
      you get points if you are present. :-( #sblchat
      In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:24 PM EST
    or supplies. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrstokes24
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q3 Compared to traditional grading, how can Standards Based Grading shift the focus to learning in the classroom? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Wonderful, wonderful!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Here We Grow with Q3... #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2 #sblchat focus on learning not grading
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: Students can better identify their strengths and their opportunities to grow. #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Where are you because this is amazing! #sblchat
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Denise, welcome! You are right on time. #sblchat
    In reply to @djlessard2016
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A1:originally to report achievement/rank Ss; traditional system is outdated in today's educational environment #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 Standards Based Grading moves the grading piece to the background. Learning takes center stage and is the focus! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 - Standards are based on learning outcomes. Traditional grading is often cluttered with extra credit, zeros, & deductions. #sblchat
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: #sblchat focuses on what learners can/can't do at this moment in time, not an aggregate of showing up and turning in Kleenex for EC
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: We shift our conversations to learning and performing based on the standard, not accumulating points. #sblchat
  • mrstokes24 Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Guess I’m buying my own Kleenex. #transformation is complete #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I always say @TTmomTT K kids don't arrive w/ a point accumulation mindset. They learn that AFTER they enter school #sblchat @DaveWheeler11
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @DaveWheeler11
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3- SBG increased buy in, Ss understanding of skill mastery, not grading by points/task. Ss use language of learning and feedback #sblchat
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 Brings focus onto the PROCESS and not isolated to the RESULT! Results are final, processess can be improved. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 - More emphasis is often placed on Learning specific Standards or Learning Targets than with traditional grading practices. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 By not spending time talking about points, percentages, or grading, teachers and students can center conversations on learning. #sblchat
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    @TTmomTT We are trying to push this now. Hard to give qtr or progress rot grade with sbl. #sblchat
    In reply to @PrincipalMKelly, @TTmomTT
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: SBL makes Ss accountable for knowledge and gives the opportunities to learn it with feedback. #sblchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    @TTmomTT @KatieBudrow Here's one from my daughter: a point for saying what color the test paper was. #serious #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @TTmomTT, @KatieBudrow
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Language matters too. @mwmedvinsky taught me to call them "learners" cuz it puts the focus where it should be #sblchat
    • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A3: We shift our conversations to learning and performing based on the standard, not accumulating points. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    You are over a major hurdle! :) #sblchat
    In reply to @mrstokes24
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Well said! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @DaveWheeler11
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Dumbfounded... #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A T at my school offered the use of 'cheat sheet' if S brought in tissues-said at least it wasn't extra credit #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @mrstokes24
  • ryanarnold1968 Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    What great examples can you point me to for SBL in social studies classrooms? #sblchat
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
    True. Also puts them in control - student agency being key! #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    RT Q3 Compared to traditional grading, how can Standards Based Grading shift the focus to learning in the classroom? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Oh my goodness... #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @RoweRikW, @TTmomTT, @KatieBudrow
  • mafarrace Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2 All these ways of the past are external. Ss always wait 4how others view their wk. Learning needs 2 empower them #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    No ... #ihavenowords #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @RoweRikW, @TTmomTT
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: 'Grades" & 'Learning' don't have to be opposed. When grades=level of proficiency then path to 'higher grade' IS 'more learning' #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Speechless #NotOften #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: Let’s think about language like “traditional” - actually, SBG is VERY traditional, if that means rigorous and thoughtful. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3) SBG encourages FA which measures learning and teaching regularly. When S's don't learn, we reteach. That allows for learning #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    How long ago? #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3 SBG provides details so learning strengths and areas for improvement can be talked about . Can’t say much about “B.” #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Language is important, and a common understanding of it as well. #sblchat #learningovercompliance
    In reply to @Aricfoster2
  • mrstokes24 Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 Work your ass off until you figure it out! #sblchat @DrTae
    In reply to @DrTae
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    last month. #ugh #sblchat
    In reply to @DRich0696
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Finding this in math, When focus is on result S ignore process, but when focus is on process, true understanding achieved. #sblchat
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I would go further to say grades themselves are unethical. #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • prinz_matt Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 SBG stops the moving target and helps them practice to hit the bullseye. Develops the growth-mindset. Trad. Stops it cold. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I really like this... #sblchat
    • DouglasReeves Dec 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
      A3: Let’s think about language like “traditional” - actually, SBG is VERY traditional, if that means rigorous and thoughtful. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Noooo! #uphillbattle #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: SBG invites us to explore the intent of the standards and then have a ton of fun walking alongside Ss as they explore and learn #sblchat
  • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    If anyone else would like to share their thoughts... #sblchat
    • MrStefferCVHS Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
      The question I have is that if we want our Ss to continue to learn and grow, how important is summarize assess?
      In reply to @TomSchimmer, @MeganCMoMo
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I think that grades are for sale #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @TTmomTT, @mrstokes24
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Yes. When Ts give points, Ss chase points. When Ts offer feedback, Ss chase knowledge. #sblchat
    • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
      Finding this in math, When focus is on result S ignore process, but when focus is on process, true understanding achieved. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    You are collecting some grading horrors this month!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @RoweRikW, @TTmomTT, @KatieBudrow
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A2:as a coach,grading is so inconsistent in my observations.reporting S progress is too important for this to be true #sblchat
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3) First and foremost, SBG should provide clear learning targets, and better alignment of tasks and assessments #sblchat
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: Outside the assignment-based paradigm, learning can take different pathways, different timetables. #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Yes - agree to the connection to growth mindset. SBG fosters this. #sblchat
    In reply to @prinz_matt
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
    But..if we eliminate grades, how am I gonna get S to bring me coffee? #sblchat
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Maybe if we are doing it in a healthy way, all assessment is formative in that it inFORMs our future practice #sblchat
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Yes! We have FUN Learning every day! #sblchat
    • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
      A3: SBG invites us to explore the intent of the standards and then have a ton of fun walking alongside Ss as they explore and learn #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #goodquestion #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Schools can be either achievement oriented or learning oriented. #sblchat
    In reply to @AggieSalterITS
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Here's our SBG website w/samples from SS. Pick a grade and then subject and explore Stage 2 https://t.co/UO5Tup6H4s #sblchat
    In reply to @ryanarnold1968
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Agree, SBG and growth mindset go hand in hand! #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns, @prinz_matt
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    GASP :-) #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    What? #Humor #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Go to the Standards Based Grading and Learning Facebook group and look for relevant threads or ask for resources. #sblchat
    In reply to @ryanarnold1968
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    @hhschiaravalli is my hero. Why should students have to learn on MY timeline? #sblchat
    In reply to @hhschiaravalli
    • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
      A3: Outside the assignment-based paradigm, learning can take different pathways, different timetables. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Well @djlessard2016 an 'A' in one class better=an 'A' in another or there is no inter-rater reliability/asses validity #sblchat @MeganCMoMo
    In reply to @djlessard2016, @MeganCMoMo
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Learning goals with scales, and frequent assessment for feedback. Great process for teaching and learning. #sblchat
    • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
      A3) First and foremost, SBG should provide clear learning targets, and better alignment of tasks and assessments #sblchat
  • WiSha1212 Dec 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Just came across this chat- great one! Too often grades are punitive in nature......more about "gotcha" than learning. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #UDLchat #sblchat
    • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
      A3: Outside the assignment-based paradigm, learning can take different pathways, different timetables. #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Yes! Just because 2 weeks wasn't enough time doesn't mean Ss can't. #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @hhschiaravalli
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Sheila, pleased you found us in #sblchat tonight!
    • WiSha1212 Dec 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Just came across this chat- great one! Too often grades are punitive in nature......more about "gotcha" than learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Welcome Sheila! We will off the next two weeks for the holidays, but back in January! #sblchat
    In reply to @WiSha1212
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I know. Groups like this keep me believing amid craziness. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @RoweRikW, @TTmomTT, @KatieBudrow
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I think that is going too far although I applaud schools that don’t have grades. #sblchat
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @MeganCMoMo
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q4 What are some key components or characteristics of a successful Standards Based school culture? #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    That's why I'm here every week! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @kenoc7, @RoweRikW, @KatieBudrow
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Est clear performance criteria is essential @djlessard2016 so that success is not dependent upon who my teacher is. #sblchat @MeganCMoMo
    In reply to @djlessard2016, @MeganCMoMo
  • prinz_matt Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    SBG really allows students to be ok with https://t.co/YWSIvLNsIC as they work towards mastery not everyone does but not punished. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    This Crew self-Ignites weekly! #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @KatieWhite426, @kenoc7, @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q4...Here it is... #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    not sure achievement always reflects what SS know 2 much focus on what they don't know #sblchat
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 - With a Standards-Based culture, all parties know and can speak to the "what" and "why" of the Learning. The "how" is UDL! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 Successful SBG has a focus on learning (whenever and wherever it happens), a culture of trust, and is based on relationships. #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3) SBG shifts the grade book towards a thermometer, written in pencil (vs. TG as timeline written in ink) #sblchat
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4- Ts and Ss who understand that learning and assessing aren't about compliance, but about skills and mastery. Culture change #sblchat
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Separating proficiency from behavior, clear path to retakes for 100% full credit, final grades are 100% summative #sblchat
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 S can prove that they have reached mastery at ANY time. Not on MY timeline! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I stopped talking about grades. Ss would ask about a grade & I talked about learning. Motivation came with success. #sblchat
    In reply to @djlessard2016
  • Joe_Mazza Dec 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    So much learning & PLN building happening right now... #dtk12chat #ohedchat #txed #sblchat - what new(er) chats do you love?
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 - Key components of a Standards-Based culture: -Engagement -Resilience -Perseverance -Collaboration -Feedback -Reassessing #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 Successful SBG values learning over compliance, collaboration over competition, and risk taking over fear. #sblchat
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Yes. Feedback accelerates learning much more effectively than attempting to shape behavior with traditional grades. #sblchat
    • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
      A2: Improving grading practices leads Ts to explore better feedback practices, which impacts learning much more than grading itself #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Not if we have high quality assessments. #sblchat
    In reply to @AggieSalterITS, @AaronSBlackwel1
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4: All stakeholders have same vision: Ss should learn not gain points, have time to learn, challenge without penalty. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: Learning is focus.Behavior is not reported in academic mark. Reassessment for proficiency. S centered No punitive credit loss. #sblchat
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Yes. I did a #periscopeout on Wednesday. Had a S rewrite her thesis 31 times until she was happy with it. Persistent. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    RT Q4 What are some key components or characteristics of a successful Standards Based school culture? #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: Ts with a thorough understanding of the standards and a commitment to differentiated student learning #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: Full credit for learning regardless of how low/slow the start; avg over time is avoided. Grade determination, not calculation #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4) Collaboration at grade level as well as scaffolding among staff. Common vocabulary within content, similar evidence of learning #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Persistence, builds Confidence #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Love the 'culture of trust' part. So important! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DouglasReeves Dec 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: @TomSchimmer makes a critically important point about “grade determination” - it’s OK to have grades in SBG #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Yes! Similar evidence of leaning. Common understanding of what this is. #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4 #sblchat SS can reflect on their progress toward the standard ..mistakes r only the 1st attempts in learning ...it's the journey not end
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Often grading turns learning into Ts vs Ss. I don't want that in my classroom or my school. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow, @garnet_hillman
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Oh,,Oh,, Reflection by a S can actually IMPROVE their grade. In traditional model reflection is after grade post, too late #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A5 Learning is fixed, time is variable in SBG culture. #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: Ts who share student work and collaborate to improve AfL practices #sblchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: I go to many schools and I will assert you can FEEL a learning culture as soon as you walk in the door.The school breathes it. #sblchat
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    This makes me think of components of the Math Teaching Practices from @NCTM the SBL and T&L Practices go hand in hand #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @NCTM
  • prinz_matt Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4 Clearly defined, what do we want students to know, how will we know if they know it and what do we do if they don't? #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Love resilience and perseverance. Hard work by T's=hard work by S's #sblchat
    • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
      A4 - Key components of a Standards-Based culture: -Engagement -Resilience -Perseverance -Collaboration -Feedback -Reassessing #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Exactly! #sblchat
    • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
      This makes me think of components of the Math Teaching Practices from @NCTM the SBL and T&L Practices go hand in hand #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW, @NCTM
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
    We work together for learning, not against each other in a power struggle. #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @KatieBudrow
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
    speaks to the math teacher in me. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Tell tale sign is how early T arrive for work, too. What time doe your T lot fill? #sblchat
    • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
      A4: I go to many schools and I will assert you can FEEL a learning culture as soon as you walk in the door.The school breathes it. #sblchat
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I think this is SO important; an idea I see Ss struggle with in math - it should be credit for learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Thanks @DouglasReeves! Symbol changes, etc. not as impactful as evolving the process for determining symbols. #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
    When we shifted practices, we had orientation nights-Ss shared the changes &what it meant for learning #sblchat
    In reply to @djlessard2016, @briandvoss
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Agree fully but subject grades should be deemphasized. What is important are grades for standards & desc feedback. #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
    When asked by doubting Ps, Ts, share that SBG is a grading system. #sblchat
  • carmelhealth Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I know! If I don't give points for effort..how will I get students to try? #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
    There will always be a level of summarization @MrStefferCVHS when reporting to parents; unavoidable. #sblchat @MeganCMoMo
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS, @MeganCMoMo
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
    My thought is to first take away averaging grades and percentage based grades. Solves many problems. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @DouglasReeves
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
    And engaged students who are truly reflected in their environment. The learning is priority 1. EQs, documentation #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Our Learners engage for the Learning, Collaboration, Feedback and Application... #NoPoints #sblchat
    • carmelhealth Dec 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
      I know! If I don't give points for effort..how will I get students to try? #sblchat
      In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Look at their eye brows and proficiency and hearts. Those three are dead giveaways for effort :) #sblchat
    In reply to @carmelhealth, @hoffmanteambret
  • DouglasReeves Dec 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    @CoachLesterBHS - Right, Adam - focus on the essentials - not giant changes that alienate everyone. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4) Believing and acting upon the premises 1-students learn at different rates/paces & feedback 2-Feedback matters! #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I get that comment too. I say make Ss responsible for their knowledge & don't let them off the hook. #sblchat
    In reply to @carmelhealth, @hoffmanteambret
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    well said, Tom! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Q5 What are some roadblocks that impede school transition/progress towards Standards Based Learning and Grading? #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Haha @MrStefferCVHS Doesn't have to be a singular symbol, but synthesizing (even anecdotal) will alway be needed #sblchat @MeganCMoMo
    In reply to @MrStefferCVHS, @MeganCMoMo
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    well said, Ken! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    It's what the report card does, summarize information. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Our 2nd to last Qn in #sblchat for 2016...
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3:SBG is focused and specific;with effective ongoing feedback,Ss can make targeted learning goals and growth #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5 Paradigm shift before implementation - former needs to happen first, but many like to focus on the latter. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5 - Change can be difficult. Traditions are sometimes tough to let go of. However, when we know an effective way for learning... #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5: It's not how it's always been done. Change is scary. Also get the college/scholarship argument a lot. #sblchat
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5- "That's the way we have always done it." Most dangerous phrase is education. #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    #sblchat by creating engaging relevant classroom activities SS will do thework because of the internal reward
    In reply to @carmelhealth, @hoffmanteambret
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5 "That's not how it's done in the real world" so says the T that has never worked outside of academia. #sblchat
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5: Electronic grade books that rely on calculations and averages. So many conversations about this instead of about learning. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5 The Fiddler on the Roof effect - tradition. What I experienced worked so no need to change. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    % grades? I'm with you 100% @CoachLesterBHS ;-) But...avg across strands w/ most recent for each (think HS) is ok #sblchat @DouglasReeves
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @DouglasReeves
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Just because it is the status quo doesn't make it right... #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A3 SBG allows S to learn without worry of missing points and bad grades. It creates a safe environment to take risks and grow. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A6 A major roadblock is fixed mindset, fear of change, and nervousness about breaking the status quo. #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5) Courage to move beyond pockets of innovators to an *entire system* united in SBG ideals. Managing 2nd order change. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    This resource by @AinsworthLarry is a great read on “Identifying the Power Standards that Matter Most”! #sblchat
    In reply to @AinsworthLarry
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    And often means it's comfortable, which hides a whole lot of wrong. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5: Not truly engaging families. We have learned that you can't explain it once. You have to explain it every year- K parents #sblchat
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: A major key component is Ts collaboration defining what are essential Stndrds for Ss mastery. Not all Stndrds are essential. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 Mindset change is a big obstacle to shifts in grading practices. Changing grading practices opens many other ed shift doors. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    But some of them have great flexibility and don’t just do that now. #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    RT Q5 What are some roadblocks that impede school transition/progress towards Standards Based Learning and Grading? #sblchat
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Drops the intrinsic vs external motivation bomb! Well played! #sblchat
    • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
      #sblchat by creating engaging relevant classroom activities SS will do thework because of the internal reward
      In reply to @carmelhealth, @hoffmanteambret
  • DouglasReeves Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: Let’s acknowledge that sometimes we, the advocates of SBG, are a roadblock when we stoke fears of parents and teachers. #sblchat
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Parents, admin, teachers, and school boards that have been through school with a traditional grading. #sblchat
  • sandeeteach Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Thanks for the recommendation and Happy Holidays Rik! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @AinsworthLarry
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    @garnet_hillman a6 fear of changewe don't care what SS know just aboutGPA is yet most successful companies don't care #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: Also trust & belief in ourselves & students. We CAN learn all standards. We CAN all be successful. We CAN have high expectation #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Happy Holidays, Dear Friend! #sblchat
    • sandeeteach Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
      Thanks for the recommendation and Happy Holidays Rik! #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW, @AinsworthLarry
  • carmelhealth Dec 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    agreed. Then some teachers make it all about 'earning points' and the desire to learn more fades away. #sblchat
    In reply to @prinz_matt
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5) Fear of change by T's, idea that SBG DOESN'T prepare S's for the "real world", acceptance by all that grading w/out % is ok. #sblchat
  • prinz_matt Dec 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5 - lack of growth mindset in teachers to question practices and Chang their work. Many See it as more work, not different #sblchat
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
    If you want to give progress reports or quarterly status updates, do you set intermediate learning milestones? #sblchat
    • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
      @TTmomTT We are trying to push this now. Hard to give qtr or progress rot grade with sbl. #sblchat
      In reply to @PrincipalMKelly, @TTmomTT
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Wo do have to demonstrate patience and understanding with Ps and Ts, but maintain a sense of urgency for the change. #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • MrMontrose311 Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    @CoachLesterBHS probably won't plug himself so I will. Check out our awesome students #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Our Learners see the "Strategic Confusion", perseverance and resilience in SBL/G as having a Growth Mindset. #sblchat
    • prinz_matt Dec 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
      A5 - lack of growth mindset in teachers to question practices and Chang their work. Many See it as more work, not different #sblchat
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4:learning is timeless/supported through practice and risk-taking; Ss and Ts reflect, collaborate, communicate, evolve, #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A6 #sblchat today learners needs 2 take risk, collaborate, learn & unlearn 2 b successful
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5: The discomfort of change itself & some teacher feel a loss of control. (I argue SBL offer an appropriate amount of T control) #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Right @megyzr! Once stu meet a standard it's irrelevant that they used to not know how. #sblchat Lots of real-life examples #sblchat
    In reply to @megyzr
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:49 PM EST
    We have to consider which we talk about more - I know I had to switch my language when I shifted my practice. #sblchat
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I do know from my 2 daughter's in college that scholarship $ are based on class rank and GPA. Gives it importance :-( #sblchat
    In reply to @prinz_matt
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Funny because every teacher lives in the real world... #sblchat
    • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
      A5 "That's not how it's done in the real world" so says the T that has never worked outside of academia. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    You can. What is critical is that is clear whether performance standards relate to what we expect now or end of year. #sblchat
    In reply to @xakellis
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    yes u get ur drivers license no matter how many times u tried #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @megyzr
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    I'm so glad to see that shift. When we moved to SBG in 2013, this was our main struggle. We still manage misunderstandings #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5 Big roadblock to SBG shift is seeing it as just another initiative. You are about to change an entire school culture. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A6: My "eduhero" list was mostly the people who got me started with Twitter chats #COCchat #sblchat #ohedchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: Also students who understood and mastered the old system can feel angry at the switch. Bonus marks were good to boost average #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Aug vs May would be "avg over time" @CoachLesterBHS so I agree. But Aug=fractions/May=measurement then maybe #sblchat @DouglasReeves
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @DouglasReeves
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    and love learning too... #sblchat
    • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Yes. When Ts give points, Ss chase points. When Ts offer feedback, Ss chase knowledge. #sblchat
      • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
        Finding this in math, When focus is on result S ignore process, but when focus is on process, true understanding achieved. #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
    That's how I do it in my HS math classes. Most recent evidence is what's recorded. #sblchat
    In reply to @megyzr, @TomSchimmer
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Ditto! #sblchat
    • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
      That's how I do it in my HS math classes. Most recent evidence is what's recorded. #sblchat
      In reply to @megyzr, @TomSchimmer
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    and now when I talk to other Ts interested I point out 'where you used to spend time...now you spend it here.' #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    It is amazing what it did to my classroom. I can never go back. #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
      A5 Big roadblock to SBG shift is seeing it as just another initiative. You are about to change an entire school culture. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Yes, yes, yes. @TomSchimmer puts this so well. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
    • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
      Right @megyzr! Once stu meet a standard it's irrelevant that they used to not know how. #sblchat Lots of real-life examples #sblchat
      In reply to @megyzr
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    This is very good. The change is not an initiative, it's cultural #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:50 PM EST
      A5 Big roadblock to SBG shift is seeing it as just another initiative. You are about to change an entire school culture. #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    agree trust ur SS and they will surprise u! #sblchat @DavidLockstein @ERTOlson
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @DavidLockstein, @ERTOlson
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Q6 What would you consider the “first step” of transitioning from traditional grading towards Standards Based Grading? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Here's our #sblchat final question of 2016...
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Had a S tell me the other day (not about my class) that he didn't care if he learned, just wanted the A. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    So true. Took me a year to learn to back off, listen and offer solutions not force ideas. #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    So true @KatieWhite426! We need to give nec time/space to get used to 'new' ideas. No one (Ts, Ss, Ps) snaps out of it. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    College admissions survey said course selection (rigour) most important. Class rank way lower. #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @prinz_matt
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6 First step - determine a purpose for grading to ground all future discussions and action steps. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6 - An ideal "first step" would be to follow educators / authors gathered in #sblchat tonight and begin an amazing learning journey!
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6: Stop grading behavior and practice. #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
    I tell people all the time how bad I feel about some of my practices before SBL. #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Biggest road block, is that SBL is more work than traditional grading. Allow S to revisit skills makes for more work. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6) T's identify what specifically they want their S's to learn. Set goals, identify key vocab and processes for each goal. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    RT Q6 What would you consider the “first step” of transitioning from traditional grading towards Standards Based Grading? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 - One important first step would be for the school leadership to lead and support the transition to Standards-Based Learning. #sblchat
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Agreed, this group is great. I'm learning to be concise at 140 chars... #sblchat
    • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
      I know. Groups like this keep me believing amid craziness. #sblchat
      In reply to @kenoc7, @RoweRikW, @TTmomTT, @KatieBudrow
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Yes but as Mandi said so many scholarships require a certain GPA. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @TTmomTT, @prinz_matt
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6- Defining what you want your classroom to be about. Grading or learning? #sblchat
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I do hope it gets there. Wrong direction when they attach $ to rank and not rigor. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @prinz_matt
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Yep. I have heard that more often than I care to admit. "It was a stupid test but...10 easy points" #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • MichelleKuhns Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: Identify purpose #1, then tackle the separation of achievement and behavior. Once Ts see this, the door opens to other ideas #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    So that's how we work 'with them' @TTmomTT When the ONLY path to an 'A' is max learning, then symbol is irrelevant #sblchat @KatieWhite426
    In reply to @TTmomTT, @KatieWhite426
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5:involving all/clearly defining process, holding each other accountable for honoring Ss right to accurate reports of their growth #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6) Stealing one from @tguskey …become clear about the purpose of grades/grading. #sblchat
    In reply to @tguskey
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: Start focused topic discussions about key #sblchat principles to have at EVERY staff meeting. This is not some new thing; it's THE thing
  • brynmw Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    @garnet_hillman good grief. I missed #sblchat tonight. So....final answer? Get my teachers to follow Rik and Garnet.
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Then have your very capable students go to allow performing HS!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @TTmomTT, @prinz_matt
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    It makes me sick to my stomach what I did to Ss in my first year. I was a strict late work penalizer. No empathy #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • ChrisRugg Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #sblchat @SisiWHS214 @AngelaGinnan @Wheeling_360
    In reply to @SisiWHS214, @AngelaGinnan, @Wheeling_360
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    .@TomSchimmer And we had better make sure the "new" way really breeds success. We have to show the benefits, not just say them #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: Multiple opportunities to demonstrate the learning. I mean, why not? #sblchat
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Comes in late and...mic drop! #sblchat
    • brynmw Dec 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
      @garnet_hillman good grief. I missed #sblchat tonight. So....final answer? Get my teachers to follow Rik and Garnet.
      In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    It has been such a great year #sblchat! Looking forward to learning with all of you in 2017.
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6: Remove behavior from final grade and evaluate what the grade you give really means. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6 Starting SBG as P. I tied the "Why change?" to the future. The child's future, not adults. Mantra: It's all about the learning. #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    rock on, Garnet! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • kentrobie Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6 sometimes sts don't fully believe/get sbg focus on learning, especially since all their other classes are more traditional. #sblchat
  • CoachLesterBHS Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    I can't believe I found this a year ago. It's changed the trajectory of my career. Thank you #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4 Some of the best SBG implementations I've seen start with good SB learning targets and rubrics. It provides a good foundation. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6 First step (after SB curriculum & assessment), because it so logistically easy is eliminate behaviours from grades. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I cannot thank my #sblchat co-mod @RoweRikW enough for all his wisdom and dedication in 2016. Here's to a great 2017!
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • brynmw Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I was the same, but it's about our growth and learning, as well. #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @TTmomTT
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Our year together in #sblchat has benefited us and our Learners! Incredible gratitude to my co-moderator @garnet_hillman for all she does!
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    It is great learning together with you! #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • Aricfoster2 Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thank you @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for another amazing #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I get this comment a lot too!. #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • AggieSalterITS Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    agree we can't letour insecurities/fear hold our SS fromwhat's expectedof tomorrow's jobs #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @DavidLockstein, @ERTOlson
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Wait..what?!? I gotta wait a WHOLE year? (Yes I teach math) #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Yes, yes you do. #sblchat
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • MeganCMoMo Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A6: Removing compliance and formative work (assessment too) from the grade. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Lets' lead the Learning in 2017! #sblchat
  • hhschiaravalli Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A6: Another good one: separate out behavior in all its implicit and explicit forms #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Dec 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Make it about learning not compliance. Separate grades for compliance pieces. #sblchat
    • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
      A6: Remove behavior from final grade and evaluate what the grade you give really means. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thank you to our #sblchat Crew for tonight's sharing! Happy Holidays to All. See you in 2017 for our next chat.
  • KatieBudrow Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thanks for another great #sblchat everyone! Esp @RoweRikW & @garnet_hillman!! Hope you all have a restful and safe holiday! See you in 2017!
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A6:assessing existing practice and identify problems/issues;enables all to see the need to change #sblchat
  • mctownsley Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Merry Christmas to you and yours, Rik! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • kenoc7 Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I’ll try to find it and post it here later. #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @TTmomTT, @prinz_matt
  • DRich0696 Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thanks for a great '16 @garnet_hillman @RoweRikW #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A6) Ensuring you have clear learning standards/objectives and aligning assessments. #sblchat
  • xakellis Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A4 Good "I can..." statements reduce T confusion and helps "move the herd" in the right direction. Reducing chaos is good for SBG. #sblchat
  • brynmw Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Yes. It should always come back to the students! Love to hear how you are going as admin and SBG. I'm learning as well. #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
      A6 Starting SBG as P. I tied the "Why change?" to the future. The child's future, not adults. Mantra: It's all about the learning. #sblchat
  • KatieWhite426 Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Yeah, inconsistency is really challenging for students. #sblchat
    In reply to @kentrobie
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Matt, thank you. Merry Christmas and Share His Blessings! #sblchat
    In reply to @mctownsley
  • TomSchimmer Dec 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Love that @MeganCMoMo! 'Formative grades' are an assessment oxymoron! #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • megyzr Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    so important to separate behavior - I think of "messy" math papers vs. great mathematical thinking and exploring #sblchat
    In reply to @MichelleKuhns
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    That would be awesome! #sblchat
    In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
  • djlessard2016 Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    @garnet_hillman @RoweRikW thanks for a great chat! Cheers to a safe and festive holiday season! Good night all #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • PrincipalMKelly Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A6) Separate behaviors (attendance, lateness, etc..) from academic reporting. #sblchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you for a great chat tonight @garnet_Hillman & @RoweRikW!! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • TTmomTT Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    I begin graduate work toward a doc in Jan. Classes meet on Wed. Hope I can convince my Ts that this is important. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Brett, we appreciate you joining us once again! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Let's hope! #sblchat
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • BradLatzke Dec 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    What an all-star #sblchat tonight! Thx @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW. Happy, safe holidays to all.
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 14 @ 10:00 PM EST
    Thanks for the chat. I got a lot out of it everyone. Now on to folding clothes. #sblchat