#SwDMathChat Archive
Thursday October 27, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome
#SwDMathChat
@gracekelemanik
&
@amylucenta
are excited to chat Contemplate then Calculate & Instructional Routines for ALL learners
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Please introduce yourself and share one reason why you’re joining us tonight.
#SwDMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi
#elemmathchat
friends! We are fieldtriping to
#swdmathchat
tonight so double up on those hashtags and get ready 4 Routines for Reasoning
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Andy, self-contained special education math teacher in NYC. I’m here because I want to learn about instructional routines!
#SwDMathChat
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:03 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
Margie from PA Math Coach K-12 Would luv to learn new ways to provide better access to the math for all students
#elemmathchat
Elementarist
Oct 27 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening
#elemmathchat
&
#swdmathchat
friends!!! Jamie from KY, now teaching Math through school STEAM lab
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
Welcome Margie!
#SwDMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening
#elemmathchat
peeps! Please introduce your self & share 1 reason you are here use both
#elemmathchat
swdmathchat please
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@Elementarist
Hi Jamie!
#SwDMathChat
fhs_timowens
Oct 27 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi I'm Tim, I teach Pre Algebra and Algebra 2. I am wanting to learn more ways improve my class
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@fhs_timowens
Hi Tim, welcome!
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MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
Hi Margie!
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@Elementarist
Hi Jamie! Glad you are here!
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
jenn_baxter
Oct 27 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi! Jennifer from Cabot, AR. Math Interventionist
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
AnnEliseRecord
Oct 27 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Ann Elise, Math Coach from NH. I'm here because I love being a part of the
#elemmathchat
community and we're visiting
#swdmathchat
tonight.
DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Dawn from MN - Numeracy for all
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
I don't know how to do that! I am not leading the chat just shepherding us over there. :)
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:06 PM EDT
We're going on a field trip right now! Come along for the ride to
#SwDMathChat
See you there!
https://t.co/tdFIVDflit
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Join
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
in 1 hour for
#SwDMathChat
#MTBoS
#ElemMathChat
#SpedChat
#MathChat
https://t.co/VPJLPEbEvk
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 3:55 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
TONIGHT at 9pm EST
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
@HeinemannPub
@HeinemannPD
@NCTM
https://t.co/I7EJzR247J
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I'm Melynee from OK I'm here because this is the best PLC on the planet!
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi
#ElemMathChat
I’ll be Quote RTing all of
@GraceKelemanik
and
@AmyLucenta
’s Qs from
#SwDMathChat
this evening! And welcome!
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
As prep for the chat, here’s our Contemplate then Calculate Primer in a google folder.
https://t.co/1p9vnUIioM
#SwDMathChat
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
#swdmathchat
welcome all
randybw15
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hello! Randy, Bay Area, CA. Co-founder
@brainquakeinc
&
@UrbanMontessori
, former elem. T. Fascinated by making math accessible!
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/KkCMs7MFas
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
As prep for the chat, here’s our Contemplate then Calculate Primer in a google folder.
https://t.co/1p9vnUIioM
#SwDMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
Thanks for leading ladies and thanks for facilitating Andrew!
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
AnnEliseRecord
Oct 27 @ 9:08 PM EDT
#elemmathchat
is on a field trip to
#swdmathchat
tonight....join us!!
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Robin from NYC college classrm, tutor, mentor s &working ts Mom of sped HSer
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@MNmMath
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
No prob! ;)
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
I've heard those words in a closing camp song in the not so distant past!
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: How might routines in general support SwDs?
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#4RforR
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/aeEGs7paqP
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: How might routines in general support SwDs?
#SwDMathChat
#4RforR
gattisDL3
Oct 27 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Hi! Marcy, Round Rock, TX. 3rd grd Dual Language! I love learning and open to new ideas to empower my Ss in math!
#swdmathchat
#elemmathchat
massignmenthelp
Oct 27 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Top 10 Halloween Classroom Parties Snack Ideas
https://t.co/CJqvbJ2KUj
#aphgchat
#byotchat
#christianeducators
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
AssignmentHelpN
Oct 27 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Top 10 Halloween Classroom Parties Snack Ideas
https://t.co/OadBuvYIx0
#aphgchat
#byotchat
#christianeducators
#edtherapy
#SwDMathChat
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
#swdmathchat
A1 structure to create learn opps. Using >1 routine can provide variety esp imp for swd
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Routines are helpful for SwDs because it gives a sense of familiarity and clarity to the classroom experience
#SwdMathChat
#elemmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Routines support all Ss bc they access at Ss level, repeated exposure to reasoning, longer processing time#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Ss and Ts know what to expect and can focus thinking on mathematics.
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
jenn_baxter
Oct 27 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@KarenDGoodman
@clw1226
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
https://t.co/JXBZw90h9L
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Routines are helpful for SwDs because it gives a sense of familiarity and clarity to the classroom experience
#SwdMathChat
#elemmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@MisterBruff
Hi Chris,
#elemmathchat
is over at
#SwDMathChat
tonight! join us!
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2: What is your experience with
#CthenC
? (Contemplate then Calculate)
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/549EhqzioO
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2: What is your experience with
#CthenC
? (Contemplate then Calculate)
#SwDMathChat
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
https://t.co/dAx9CqN35F
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#SwBMathChat
#elemathchat
important in full inclusion class. It gave SS a sense of structure & organization. Easier for them to access math
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@debbie_schwantz
Hi Debbie! We are at a field trip and following Learning about routines
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
randybw15
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 Ts' routines that prepare them to enter the day ready to amaze Ss also benefit Ss!
#swdmathchat
jenn_baxter
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I'm sorry but what does SwDs stand for? I'm an
#elemmathchat
gal joining
#SwDMathChat
DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: I'm going to learn about it tonight.
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
Mark we are following the chat on the
#SwDMathChat
and using both
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
Mark we are following the chat on the
#SwDMathChat
and using both
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@jenn_baxter
Students with disabilities
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
gattisDL3
Oct 27 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Routines help set a pace and keeps Ss and Ts stay on schedule. Plus every minute is valuable!
#swdmathchat
#elemmathchat
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
A2 great workshop w
@Kaitruggiero
this summer will use w Math for Elem Ed in Spring
#swdmathchat
HeinemannPD
Oct 27 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Now!
#SwDMathChat
https://t.co/Lhul4kbHup
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 3:55 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
TONIGHT at 9pm EST
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
@HeinemannPub
@HeinemannPD
@NCTM
https://t.co/I7EJzR247J
AnnEliseRecord
Oct 27 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: 1st first time I've heard of CtC. Reminds me of the Number Talks. Thinking time & various strat
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: I have led a couple of
#CthenC
with Ts and Ss, but very interested in learning more!
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
https://t.co/549EhqzioO
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2: What is your experience with
#CthenC
? (Contemplate then Calculate)
#SwDMathChat
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:16 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
A2: Use it in practice, but not familiar with the formal name
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@jenn_baxter
Students with Disabilities. We are discussing Routines for Reasoning :)
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Routines help everyone! "Routines" need to be purposeful though... doing it because it's a routine isn't enough
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Similar, but with very specific designs and a structural thinking focus.
#swdmathchat
#elemmathchat
@AnnEliseRecord
EMathRRISD
Oct 27 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Brian from Texas. Just got our daughter to bed. Glad to finally hop in here.
#swdmathchat
#elemmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
can you say more? Are there non-meaningful routines?
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Haven't formally called it
#CthenC
but use in principle very often
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
randybw15
Oct 27 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 encourages experiencing exploration as central to identifying solutions to compelling math problems.
#swdmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
Is there a script or a formula that makes is specific that drives structural thinking process
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
routines can help swd anticipate what is next...but it might get boring if they know what is next
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/Y2B9gmB0sx
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Some routines transition Ss to learning and some routines like
#cThenC
situate Ss in the learning
https://t.co/RHWXV2GHQH
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@bkdidact
Non-meaningful routines: -structure WAS valuable, but isn't needed/ wanted anymore -reduce thinking
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#swdmathchat
@AmyLucenta
is going to walk us through a
#cthenc
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3:
#CthenC
Walkthrough
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/pN9vWlIKUP
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3: When sts look at this and ask themselves, ‘what might be mathematically important’, what might they say?…
https://t.co/HGE1eK7yc7
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 It might be math important that they are balanced
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@MNmMath
Yes, we will do best to walk through now...
#SwDMathChat
#cthenc
#elemmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: I see two 3x3 squares
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/pN9vWlIKUP
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3: When sts look at this and ask themselves, ‘what might be mathematically important’, what might they say?…
https://t.co/HGE1eK7yc7
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1: Routines provide a consistent structure and expectations. Once familiar, Ss can focus on the mathematics.
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
an example? I remember you talking about calendar routines before.
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 They might wonder what happens to the two extra squares.
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@bkdidact
There are many routines that ARE very helpful! They help us see patterns, visuals, use strategies...
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:23 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
How many squares? How can they be rearranged? Looks like a rotation. Notice we can make lots of squares
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 I see symmetry
#swdmathchat
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: I got to spend time trying out and learning about
#CthenC
from
@davidwees
and co. at
#TMC16
.
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
https://t.co/iQOCx5JJmn
ChrisKalmbach
Oct 27 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
@bkdidact
that's what I'm wondering.
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Sts noticed...(shared here!) Balanced (like symmetry) 3x3 squares Rotation lots of squares
#CthenC
#SwDMathChat
AnnEliseRecord
Oct 27 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: Ss might see that there are two sets of squares that are identical but rotated connected by 4 squares.
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@bkdidact
Many sources pointing to "Calendar" time as a routine that DOESN'T lead to meaningful mathematics
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Shared Noticings
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/YJ55gbGCks
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Sts noticed...(shared here!) Balanced (like symmetry) 3x3 squares Rotation lots of squares
#CthenC
#SwDMathChat
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: Might say, "I see some arrays." "I can find the total number of squares." "The top and bottom look similar."
#ElemmathChat
#SwDMathChat
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
so noticing same shapes
gattisDL3
Oct 27 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@bstockus
is this similar to Notice and Wonder? I'm unfamiliar with
#CthenC
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@bkdidact
I'd argue that starting by taking up homework is biggest waste of instructional time! Especially for
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
@bkdidact
I totally revamped mine many years ago even at preschool level! It should be morning mtg
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
There’s a big difference between instructional routines and classroom mgmt routines!
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q4
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/YLhWDdvd4S
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q4: Sts use noticings to count all, share strategies, always connected to their noticings. What might they say?…
https://t.co/ol4vhA6Vh6
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@gattisDL3
There's some noticing involved. The focus is on helping Ss see and make use of structure.
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
A3 Hopefully they would notice number or shape. What it LOOKS like or HOW MUCH it has...
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
Just putting this in the right place!
https://t.co/v74CIb3ITG
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@MarkChubb3
YES!
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
#swdmathchat
almost full 4 x 4 squares top and bottom so 30 so far plus 4 in the middle
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: "We noticed the top and bottom were the same so we doubled after finding the total of the top."
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
jenn_baxter
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@MarkChubb3
so true! Both are needed though
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@bkdidact
Exactly!!! Just wanted to make sure when we use terms, we all have same definition:) Nicely said
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
FloradTeach
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
this is like noticing and naming
#SwDMathChat
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
@bkdidact
the ones who did the HW are bored and the others are copying the HW
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@jenn_baxter
@MarkChubb3
For sure!
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
Good follow up question! :-) Let me think about what they'd say...
#ELemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
looping in the hashtags!
https://t.co/9nrJmeN7hb
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:29 PM EDT
How did you find total of top” quickly?
https://t.co/eHE8q1WYJn
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
Maybe: "I saw a 4 by 4 array missing one square, so 15. I doubled that to make 30."
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
Ss might notice the symmetry first... or the long parts/ wide parts This might help them count
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
randybw15
Oct 27 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Wondering if context for noticing is sometimes provided in order provide reason to invest in noticing in first place?
#swdmathchat
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
Followed up with: "And then I added four in the middle connecting them."
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
@GraceKelemanik
looking for structure, by any chance? :)
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:32 PM EDT
My tweetdeck seems to be having a headache tonight. Feed is coming in way delayed. grrrr
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
#SwdMathChat
#elemmathchat
Ss might notice it is an even number without counting
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
to develop structural language, we use terms, chunk, change, and connect to describe shortcuts
#swdmathchat
#elemmathchat
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4: Alternatively, "We noticed 7 groups of 4 and 2 groups of 3."
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
I see nearly 4x4 square...took one from middle to make 16. One more in middle is 17...then double
#elemmathchat
#SwDMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@HelenWilt
My calendar time was more for number of the day,
#noticewonder
about number charts,money & time
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 27 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q5 Annotation of student thinking!
#SwDMathChat
#ElemMathChat
https://t.co/o2CP6wwMcd
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q5: Students share and process the strategy through discourse. T then annotates. What thinking does this annotation…
https://t.co/3xIO6Bmy8c
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Cool. How would Ss notice even number of squares?
#SwdMathChat
#elemmathchat
https://t.co/fApft5z133
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
#SwdMathChat
#elemmathchat
Ss might notice it is an even number without counting
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A6: S wanted to complete an array so moved "extra" squares to both almost complete arrays Then added 2 remaining.
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A5 that highlights my question -what happens to the extra two?
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
https://t.co/jZtjtJg95n
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q5: Students share and process the strategy through discourse. T then annotates. What thinking does this annotation…
https://t.co/3xIO6Bmy8c
pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:35 PM EDT
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
I see some compensation here. Good mental math strategy
DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: Making 2, 4X4 arrays plus 2 more.
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
jenn_baxter
Oct 27 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 4x4 then double +2
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:36 PM EDT
B, can you rephrase using “chunk” and “change”?
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
https://t.co/mGtKKdAqqE
bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A6: S wanted to complete an array so moved "extra" squares to both almost complete arrays Then added 2 remaining.
#ElemMathChat
#SwDMathChat
DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
2(4X4)+2
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@jenn_baxter
Yes, but are they still holding the big 2 up or did they fall into outer space! LOL
#elemmathchat
#swdmathchat
mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
what grade level would yourecommend this for?
#swdmathchat
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@DDibley123
And what would be essential to notice for this strategy?
#SwDMathChat
#elemmathchat
#CthenC
MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@jenn_baxter
I'm a trouble maker!
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mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
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seeing an imaginary folding line
bkdidact
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Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I think this was
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’s idea!
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q5: Students share and process the strategy through discourse. T then annotates. What thinking does this annotation…
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MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@jenn_baxter
I can hear my Ss asking that very question!
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@bkdidact
What expression would you record, and how would color code it?
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bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
Let me see if I have this right: S changed the model by moving 2 squares to chunk together to make arrays?
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@DDibley123
and how would you color code that?
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DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
The illustration helped me see how to move the squares to complete the array.
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jkjohnsonbell
Oct 27 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I'm at the pool watching swim team practice (sound familiar
@bstockus
). What did I miss?
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GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:39 PM EDT
We’ve used this task from grade 2 thru 11. Focus is on developing structural thinking
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mathconfidence
Oct 27 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
what grade level would yourecommend this for?
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Oct 27 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
4x4+2 Red 4x4, Green +2
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bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@jkjohnsonbell
We're chatting about the Contemplate then Calculate routine.
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GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes, habitualize chunking complicated objects, changing to equivalent form, connect to math you know
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bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
Let me see if I have this right: S changed the model by moving 2 squares to chunk together to make arrays?
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jkjohnsonbell
Oct 27 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: I see completing the squares.
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Oct 27 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q6 Reflection time!
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q6: After sharing a few lines of thinking, sts reflect. See ex. How does this meta-reflection process support SwD…
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
This shows me that the S is using their
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to help them make sense here
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DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: Meta-cognition is often difficult for Ss. Helpful to hear examples from fellow Ss
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randybw15
Oct 27 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Would think situating c&c in meaningful contexts would supercharge. Keeping seeing a gerrymandering analysis in this problem.
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jkjohnsonbell
Oct 27 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A6: This reflection makes math more explicit for All students. Less magic, more sense.
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bkdidact
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Oct 27 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q6 Reflection time!
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q6: After sharing a few lines of thinking, sts reflect. See ex. How does this meta-reflection process support SwD…
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bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A6: The meta-reflection helps the Ss think about general features/strategies to transcend this one problem.
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Oct 27 @ 9:44 PM EDT
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@AmyLucenta
How would you annotate that thinking?
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pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:44 PM EDT
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Allows Ss to put words/thoughts to why doing what they did helped them understand better
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@DDibley123
Yup - helpful to articulate language, & so that sts can use ea other's thinking next time.
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GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6: Yes! Meta purpose to develop an eye for structure. Answers the question, “How’d you even know to do that!?”
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Oct 27 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@DDibley123
and the sentence frames are a great support for those students who struggle with meta-cog!
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@AmyLucenta
I would try to annotate based on what the S said Honour their thinking
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MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Yes! This is powerful!
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DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: Meta-cognition is often difficult for Ss. Helpful to hear examples from fellow Ss
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GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Meta-cognition is a research-based best strategy for SwD
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pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:47 PM EDT
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Similar to a think aloud?
bkdidact
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Oct 27 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
@AmyLucenta
Would you strategically choose a S to share that would further the goals of the lesson?
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@bkdidact
Anytime we share ideas, we need time to reflect! We need to name/discuss what we did
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MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:48 PM EDT
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@AmyLucenta
Yes, & I label it as so& so's strategy
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:49 PM EDT
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@MarkChubb3
Definitely, and to build the discussion. Select and Sequence.
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GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Yes if focus is on what you paid attention to and the questions you asked yourself while solving
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pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:47 PM EDT
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Similar to a think aloud?
MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@AmyLucenta
Important Q! We need to know which examples might push thinking... without going too far
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7: How does beginning with noticings, then sharing and recording them support SwDs?
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@AmyLucenta
@bkdidact
5 Practices will help us here for sure!!!
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bkdidact
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Oct 27 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7: How does beginning with noticings, then sharing and recording them support SwDs?
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bstockus
Oct 27 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A7: Creates safe way for them to engage w/ the task. Not asking them for an answer. Also, honors their thinking.
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 Reflecting / connecting helps Ss see their purpose as learning WITH & FROM each other. Not Show & Tell time
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davidwees
Oct 27 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7: It gives them access to other people's ideas and somewhere to start.
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q7: How does beginning with noticings, then sharing and recording them support SwDs?
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7 If we think about SwD's profiles, this helps different Ss use their strengths to improve their weaknesses
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
@bkdidact
Our Instructional Routines support Ts as they enact 5 practices.
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pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:53 PM EDT
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Struggling a bit with the word "shortcut" in the visual? Just that shortcut can mean some ugly things in math
GraceKelemanik
Oct 27 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Can u give example please?
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7 If we think about SwD's profiles, this helps different Ss use their strengths to improve their weaknesses
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bkdidact
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Oct 27 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Good Q
@AmyLucenta
@GraceKelemanik
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pearse_margie
Oct 27 @ 9:53 PM EDT
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Struggling a bit with the word "shortcut" in the visual? Just that shortcut can mean some ugly things in math
AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@bstockus
i.e. access
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DDibley123
Oct 27 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
Agree. Are we talking about being more efficient?
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MarkChubb3
Oct 27 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@GraceKelemanik
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helps DI via: -processing speed -visual perceptual -listening to other's strat ...
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MNmMath
Oct 27 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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Helps Ss hear & consider/critique others thinking, helps all narrow focus, make a plan, think more processing
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AmyLucenta
Oct 27 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@DDibley123
@pearse_margie
By using (and naming) structural thinking
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