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SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:00 PM EST

Hello all! I'm here tonight with the best ever co-mod @geniened #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:01 PM EST

Shari Hardinger Co-mod & T on Assignment in Kansas & #Admin2B Learn, Teach, Reflect, Grow, Repeat... #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

TeachDB17 Jan 4 @ 8:01 PM EST

Danielle K Tchr in AZ, @HopeStreetGroup Nat'l Tchr Fellow, @ascd Emerging Leader, & blogger for https://t.co/RNseIo03bH. #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:01 PM EST

@TeachDB17 Welcome Danielle! #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:02 PM EST

Tagging Activity: Invite fellow educ/admin to #Admin2B Tonight's topic is “Suspension & Expulsion” #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST

#Admin2B Uses the Q1 A1 format for questions & answers. #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST

Jerod, Dean of Students (grades 7 & 8 building), tweeting from Camden, DE. Happy New Year to everyone #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:04 PM EST

Hello Jerod! Great to see you here tonight! @japhillips0722 #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:05 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/v982FBTDLk

McNulty1977 Jan 4 @ 8:05 PM EST

3rd grade teacher and #admin2b in Hingham, MA... checking out #NYEDchat for the first time. Happy to be here!

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/QGSTkBTRxD

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST

Q1-In your building / district, when are suspensions & expulsions appropriate? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU I'm glad to be here #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST

@McNulty1977 Hello Mark. Nice to see you here tonight! #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST

A1 They depend on the steps according to our District Student Success Guide, formerly known as the Code of Conduct. #Admin2B

GetAlma Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST

The struggle is over. @GetAlma today! https://t.co/tMkGqkaPQY #kyadmin #plearnchat #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST

A1-Depends on School Board policy. #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST

A1 cont: On most infractions, a certain level of interventions must be put in place to reteach desired behaviors before suspending #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/TRNiajYOiT

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/kaoPEBRnOr

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST

Q2-In your building/district do admins have leeway when making decisions involving suspensions & expulsions? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST

A1-Used to be very specific, now building admin can decide: https://t.co/R7QLf7tV6x #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:15 PM EST

Q2-Yes, district personnel will support. Have always been good at giving recs if unsure. #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST

A2-Progressive discipline is what is typically expected. #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST

A2 There are several offenses that require a mandatory expulsion hearing, but on other infractions, the admin has leeway #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST

@japhillips0722 I like this Jerod. So many variables could come into play and this may help with some. #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST

Perfect way to put it!,RT @SHardingerEDU: A2-Progressive discipline is what is typically expected. #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST

@japhillips0722 Do you know what some of the mandatory offenses are? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU It does help with some kids when the parents embrace our efforts to get their child back to the desired behaviors #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/i1aymDBigJ

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST

@japhillips0722 Yes, I would imagine especially "repeat offenders". That P support is key! #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST

Q3-Do you think there is tendency to suspend/expel minorities disproportionately to majorities for same offence? #Admin2B #kcedu #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/gHJtGO99lj

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU Possession of Deadly Weapon or Instrument, certain out of school arrests/charges, any type of unlawful sexual act #Admin2B

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU Those are the main ones that I just listed #Admin2B

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST

A3 Now this is tel he ELEPHANT in the room right here. As a minority, I have varying takes on this. #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST

A3-Yikes! Sorry for misspelling in Q3! I think in general this is concern, not a practice in our district that I know #Admin2B #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST

A3 This issue is an inadvertent result of the lack of effective cultural training & not hiring to meet the needs of the population #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST

@japhillips0722 Yes, I really want to understand why this happens b/c I know is huge problem. #Admin2B #kcedu #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:27 PM EST

@japhillips0722 I agree. I know it starts w Ts in classroom, sometimes having microscope on minorities for behaviors. #Admin2B #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST

A3 I could do an entire Voxer chat on this question. I can't wait to delve into this question in the slow chat. #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST

As behavior specialist I saw this with Ss I worked with. Could do same as 3 others in class, but only one called out. #Admin2B #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST

@japhillips0722 I am SO looking forward to that. I think will be great Q for group we have. #Admin2B #kcedu #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/mEbPpl6R0a

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST

Many people think that I can get the kids to "act right" because I "look like them." That's what I read between the lines. #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/LANXJa6LCS

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST

Q4-List actions/solutions to make sure minorities are treated equally regarding suspension / expulsion? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST

Q4-List actions/solutions to make sure minorities are treated equally when it comes to suspension/expulsion? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST

@japhillips0722 Wow, what do you say to those people when they approach you? #Admin2B #kcedu #team512

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU I always point them to the relationship THEY need to have with the child. You can't win them on MINE with them #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST

A4-Know your building data and look for these patterns. Educate staff. Hire diverse staff. #Admin2B #kcedu #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST

@japhillips0722 Great response. #Admin2B #kcedu #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST

We will be here monthly from Feb-March (1st Mon. of the month) so see you on Feb 1st! #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU @AtlTeacher I'm going to private vox both of you guys with a diversity question that I have pertaining to myself #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:41 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/tAsSTbHuDM

AtlTeacher Jan 4 @ 8:41 PM EST

@japhillips0722 @SHardingerEDU great. I look forward to it #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

Q5-Does suspension / expulsion work? Why or why not? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/w5GgDVigv0

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

@japhillips0722 Love it. So many questions I want to ask you. Looking forward to talking more about this. #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST

@AtlTeacher Hey Shervette! Didn't know you were on tonight. Good to see you here! #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST

A5-Depends on what you want result to be...if change for better then no, if to send msg, maybe-but is it right msg? #Admin2B #bcsed #team512

posickj Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST

A5 It's not whether the suspension works, but about the relationship that is built during and after. #admin2b https://t.co/XShnsI6MZ7

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/w5GgDVigv0

AtlTeacher Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST

I think most suspensions are lazy and have no interest in stopping the root of the problem #admin2b https://t.co/On8f2EsMLO

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/w5GgDVigv0

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:46 PM EST

Forgot to tell you @GenieneD home sick tonight. She will be on Voxer this week and back on Twitter chat in Feb. #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST

@posickj I agree about the relationship piece, but I don't think punishment works...look at our prison system. #admin2b

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST

A5 Whether it works or not depends on the child, the parental support, and other factors that can beyond the school's control #Admin2B

posickj Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU But there are few, if any, relationships in our prison system. #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST

@AtlTeacher I think some people need there to be a punishment, but finding the root of the problem is key. #admin2b

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST

I know that this is an unpopular area, but my calling in admin may be more about these areas being discussed; I love this area #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST

@posickj Yes, true. #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/cOrcLX2fdW

AtlTeacher Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST

I think out of school suspensions are great vacations. I prefer ISS #admin2b

VictoriaL_Day Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST

Sometimes you have to send kiddos home because they lost the privilege of being in school. #admin2b https://t.co/jJEDo7Pytx

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/w5GgDVigv0

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST

Q6-What are alternatives to suspension / expulsion? #Admin2B #kcedu #bcsed #team512

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/kPhzFQ9Wjm

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST

@japhillips0722 I hear you Jerod. We have to talk about it or we get nowhere. #admin2b

posickj Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST

I'm with you on that one, @AtlTeacher. Start building up the relationships, especially with walk and talks. #admin2b https://t.co/7Lv8XE6ZRd

AtlTeacher Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST

I think out of school suspensions are great vacations. I prefer ISS #admin2b

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST

@AtlTeacher I'm with you. I have some ideas that I'd like to implement as far as an ISS program. We down have ISS #Admin2B

VictoriaL_Day Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST

Just 2 b clear u need the support of parents sending kids home is also a cop out that's what they want! #admin2b https://t.co/jJEDo7Pytx

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/w5GgDVigv0

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST

@VictoriaL_Day Yes, if that has meaning to that student it can be powerful, but for some it does not. #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:54 PM EST

@VictoriaL_Day ....and hello Vicki Day! :) #admin2b

VictoriaL_Day Jan 4 @ 8:54 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU check out my other tweet! #admin2b

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:54 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU Exactly! The huge emphasis on "Instructional Leadership" has our professional missing the boat on this #Admin2B

AtlTeacher Jan 4 @ 8:54 PM EST

Have you guys dug into restorative justice? #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:55 PM EST

@VictoriaL_Day oops! missed it. okay, makes sense! #admin2b

VictoriaL_Day Jan 4 @ 8:55 PM EST

2b clear, it's not always the answer! If Ss are not engaged in school, then sending them home doesn't work #admin2b https://t.co/jJEDo7Pytx

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/w5GgDVigv0

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST

Thanks for joining in tonight everyone. Great conversations. #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST

Thanks to friend and co-mod @geniened! #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST

@AtlTeacher Yes, we are digging deep into it this year. #Admin2B

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST

We will be here monthly from Feb-March (1st Mon. of the month) so see you on Feb 1st! #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST

@AtlTeacher My A6 was Restorative Justice. :) Good topic for Feb? #admin2b https://t.co/iHEbnYjAib

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST

#admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/kPhzFQ9Wjm

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST

Next chat's topic: "TBD" #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed

VictoriaL_Day Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST

#admin2b @responsiveclass has been awesome 4 our school! Social/emotional curriculum just as important as academic!

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST

@VictoriaL_Day AMEN! Yes indeed! #admin2b

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST

Continue convo on Voxer? Let us know. Follow new friends you met here, tonight at #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/5400djtWxu

SHardingerEDU Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST

Find the storify and archive at https://t.co/18wSlBQ8Fl #admin2b #kcedu #team512 #bcsed https://t.co/BbYXfrA0Ay

japhillips0722 Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST

@SHardingerEDU You rocked it tonight. #Admin2B