#IEedchat Archive
#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday March 7, 2016
10:30 PM EST
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Welcome to In light of the recent Apple controversy, tonight's topic is on security, privacy & how we approach it in the classroom
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Q0: Introduce yourself and give us your pick for best spy movie
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A0: Chad Tech TOSA I enjoyed all the Bourne movies
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Joseph Williams
Dir of Instructional & Information Technology
Spy vs Spy
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A0 Jen here from Upland. Teach 9/10 ELA..HI All
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Robert Guzman Tech Coach Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy
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I was going to mention that
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A0: Mark Synnott. Tech Coach. I loved the early Bond movies. "Goldfinger" is my favorite.
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A0: Shane, assistant to the director of technology w/ .
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Ari Flewelling- Tech Coach- - Harriet the Spy or Get a Clue https://t.co/eJBpdVBOMM
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Q0: Introduce yourself and give us your pick for best spy movie
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I was never a huge fan, but the last couple have got me back into them
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I like the new bonds as well
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Hi, I'm Deanna, elementary teacher, my first edchat! I'm here with , best spy movie James Bond The World is Not Enough
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A0: Malana…Mark Malana. TOSA/Tech Coach - West Covina by way of Rancho Cuc. Compelled by daughters to choose Spy Kids franchise.
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Q1: Should Apple be compelled to unlock an iPhone used by San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook?
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A0: Tom Ashley here, TOSA Tech Coach in the Favorite Spy show is The Americans on FX
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Welcome nice to have you!
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A1: I will start off by saying that I don’t agree with the premise that this is “an” iPhone.
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A1: Apple had no problem unlocking phones in the past. It's all about marketing. Seems a bit hypocritical to me
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A1:From what I have heard, they had it open but someone at the FBI fumbled it. So no
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a1: Apple should comply with current laws, & legislation but beyond that they have the right to choose what 2 do or not
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A1: No. Although I support law enforcement, there are massively greater negative implications IMHO.
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A1) Not sure my stance...if we allowed it, it would allow hackers easier access to our data... not sure if i'm okay with this...
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Q1b: Apple has cooperated with law enforcement investigations in the past ( https://t.co/XkrkPk6t2T ). What is different now?
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A1: Apple should follow whatever ruling is handed down, but should fight this.
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A1: Absolute, unequivocal NO. Apart from 4th Amendment and All Writs issues, technically infeasible and a Pandoras box
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A1b: Recent documentary and coverage on Snowden has changed public opinion. Apple is playing to its customer base
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A1b: This is security theater on both sides. They both are full of it. I don't believe these actors.
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A1B: They do it in China with no problem, why can't they do it here. But I am still skeptical about all of this
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A1: Apple should not be compelled to meet their legal responsibility to the law and to their shareholders. Nothing more.
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a1: I agree with you, I'm just unsure
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when else has unlocking iPhones happened?
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There not as good as Leo?
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a1b There is a difference between opening a door w/a spare key u know about vs. 1 that was created w/out your ability to influence
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A1b: The feds aren't asking for a key, they are asking apple to write a new OS that is vulnerable. A huge security risk to do so!
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A1B: was able to comply w/ previous demands, not so with latest. Would require to break their own security.
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A1: I don't think Apple should create an unlocking program. Hackers will use it more than Apple will ever have to.
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A1 redo: Apple should meet responsibility to law and shareholders. Nothing more.
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Won't hackers just figure out the backdoor anyway?
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I agree, the FBI should rely on the hard work from their agents intelligence to find other avenues of information
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Q2: How can we use the Apple Privacy controversy as a teaching moment in our classrooms?
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A1: I see both sides...We just talked about this in class. I lean more to not doing it...but many kids said otherwise
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A2: Teach students to put a 16 character lock on their phones.
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thanks for the read. I'd still return it with does doing it before make it okay now? Things change.
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A1b: Want to be a dissident in Russia or China, what if you are gay in Saudi Arabia? Do you want those gov's to hack your device?
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my take is that's a good thing. Protecting data.
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A2: great topic to start a class debate. Structured debate promotes critical thinking
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a2: Passwords are important, and it's important to know your rights
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A1b: Apple would have to create program that undermines security of newest version of iOS. Not good for business.
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A2: I think we further teach our students about digital citizenship and that what they say or store in the cloud is forever.
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A2: You could tell them to use better passwords than ASDFGHJKL;' for a start... lol
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A2: Live your digital life as if the world could see the details of your phone (with exception of $ data and other vital info)
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a2: This would be good for S's to state their opinion, find evidence in articles about this topic
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A2)Use this as a an example when teaching S's about privacy & security issues
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Q2b: The internet provides a sense of anonymity. How can we teach our students that the internet is not private?
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A2b: Google yourself. Google their parents.
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A2: Use complex and secure passwords and change them regularly
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I can totally see your 4thgraders doing this!
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A2: My data is out there. Yours too. We need to take responsibility to protect it. Proactively. Great convos
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a2b- I Googled my name in front of the class and old gross HS photos of me showed up. & those were published w/my moms consent :/
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A2B: Remind them that what ever they post it is out in the matrix and it can be found.
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A2b: Google your house and turn on satellite view. Creepy.
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A2: Relevant debate topic. Tie in parent’s right to view phone contents (maybe more relevant)? tie in as well
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I feel an example for is coming up.
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I agree, constantly teaching S's to be safe and responsible digital citizen
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especially with incognito mode. Remove filter / history of search so you see what others see.
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A2b: Be concrete. Show how a girl's dad's could google a possible the boy and stop the date based on search results... :P
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I like this. Who does have rights to the data of minors? How much do Ps get access to? Interesting thoughts.
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<3 Incognito saves me from weird FB adds or my google search getting slanted during election season https://t.co/kQLXwY5BLB
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especially with incognito mode. Remove filter / history of search so you see what others see.
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A2B: We started a month long THINK campaign to promote safe and proper social media for students https://t.co/Nr7fZDEVDS
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A2b: Be concrete. Show how a girl's dad's could google the boy she wants to date and stop relationship before it starts...
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Q3: 1:1 schools potentially expose students to privacy risks. What can teachers do to protect them?
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A3: Make sure your school staff are good data stewards. And provide students with lots of practice to be safe online.
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A2b) Have frequent discussions with them. Tell them this fact: The top 10,000 passwords represent 98.8% of all users (Mark Burnett)
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A3: You can incorporate Common Sense Media's Dig Cit. lessons into many curricula
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Thank goodness for the name change that came w/marriage. My new footprint is much better then the old. https://t.co/EuQWHz343H
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A3: Ts can use any opportunity to model and discuss proper use of the web and data privacy. If we show them, they will learn
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A3: Again...digital citizenship. I'd also tell them that every key stroke is recorded, every pic is up for speculation.
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That is a very interesting fact! I'm going to share with my S's. Thanks!
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A3: educate. Use real examples and discuss realistic scenarios. Treat it like it's more than something out of a story.
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Q3b: If a student falls prey to an internet predator via a school issued device, who is at fault?
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A3: Even if you have the best of intentions, don't post Ss names with condolences on FB when their mom or dad passes.
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Read the privacy policy of the apps & websites you use. & when in doubt ask an admin https://t.co/rJjNMf7mPd
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Q3: 1:1 schools potentially expose students to privacy risks. What can teachers do to protect them?
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A3: Ts need to know and understand pitfalls as much as Ss, need to learn together.
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A3b: The predator. If a S uses a classroom issued pencil to harm another S we don't blame the teacher for giving them the pencil.
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Love common sense media's scope & sequence!
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a3b: it should be a shared responsibility- if the proper dig cit training has happend for all stakeholders- if not it gets blurry
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A3B:It's a pickle, depends on situation.
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A3: Guide students to understand and develop their digital footprint along with understanding privacy from all sides
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haha! Nice.. Thanks for sharing!
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A3b: A student once used a CB to imitate me on FB. It was 100% his fault. I still taught with CB's the next day.
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Hello. 😬Shabana Jameel, M.Ed™
Looked forward to this this evening. Couldn't remember the hashtag. https://t.co/c4F8aXeE9E
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A3b: everyone charged with ensuring the safety of the child. Starts with “me”. Takes a concerted effort by all.
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a3b: I have to say the school. It's a responsibility of T's now to teach how to be safe and responsible online!
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As Metallica once said " I trust me, myself and I"
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A3b: The parent has to accept the AUP and the 1:1 agreement. The parent is still the parent.
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Final Thoughts: How do we teach privacy to Ss who live in world of share everything?
