#rethinkela Archive


Thursday December 7, 2017
9:00 PM EST

  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Introduce yourself: Name, grade and subject, location #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome! We are using Q1/A1 format tonight. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Introduce yourself: Name, grade and subject, location #reThinkELA
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #reThinkELA Shanna Mellott, Cache High School, All Things English 9th & 12th
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    I am Michelle Waters, and I teach 9-11 English in Oklahoma. #rethinkela
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Aaron Blackwelder SW Washington high school English. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome, Aaron. I'm looking forward to hearing your ideas! #rethinkela
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Q1 What strategies do you use to support students in learning to listen actively? #reThinkELA
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Jackie Rasnic, Edmond North, AP Language #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi Jackie! Welcome to #reThinkELA.
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1 One strategy I have used is to ask students to summarize what the other person has said -- either on paper or verbally. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #reThinkELA Welcome Dani! I'm so glad to have you join us!
    • DanielleCalvin3 Dec 7 @ 9:09 PM EST
      Dani Calvin, SDE, Director of Elementary ELA
      In reply to @watersenglish
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q2 “How do we differentiate speaking for students with anxiety, speech impediments, and other inhibiting factors?” -- @AaronSBlackwel1 #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Remember to include #reThinkELA in your replies so we can all see what you say.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A2 This was soooo me when I was in HS. I was a nervous wreck whenever I had to present! #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A2 I offer to stand next to students who are just nervous. But those who are terrified -- I offer to let them present to me. #rethinkela
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A2. I often allow students to have a friend stand with them while they present. This seems to help many students feel less nervous. #reThinkELA
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #rethinkela A1: Have students watch a Ted Talk and take notes or answer questions, and then finish up with Socratic discussions, elevator speeches, or speed talking. I know I threw in speaking skills.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I hadn't thought about having a friend stand with them. Love that idea! They might even like that better than having me stand with them. LOL #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I hadn't thought about having a friend stand with them. Love that idea! They might even like that better than having me stand with them. LOL #rethinkela
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Teaching listening is one of my weak areas. However, we do watch TEDTalks in my class and students then discuss them. We also use a lot of Socratic Seminars and I have a reflective questioning ask afterward. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I love Socratic discussions! Students really get into this as well, even if they complain leading up to it. #reThinkELA
    In reply to @lsmellott
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: Teaching listening is one of my weak areas. However, we do watch TEDTalks in my class and students then discuss them. We also use a lot of Socratic Seminars and I have a reflective questionil I ask afterward. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Q3 How do you differentiate listening for students who with ADHD or other factors that inhibit their ability to listen for long periods of time? #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Asking reflective questions is so important for all the standards! Not only must students process their own thinking, but I learn so much from their answers. #reThinkELA
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #rethinkela A2: For Ss with anxiety, you take it one step at a time. I have them present in front of a few people and build it up. Just like they have to build their reading and writing stamina, they have to build their speaking stamina. Build their confidence in themselves.
  • DanielleCalvin3 Dec 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #reThinkELA My daughter is an introvert and speaking in front of her peers terrifies her. In the past, her teachers have allowed her to present to them outside of class. She is entering HS next year. How do scaffold a S like this 2 the next level?
    In reply to @watersenglish
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I allow students to give presentations ore lead discussions during lunch or after school with a group of their friends. It doesn’t have to happen during class. #reThinkELA
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A3. It's important to remember that no one wants to sit and listen for a long time. Have activities/questions to break up listening. #reThinkELA
    • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q3 How do you differentiate listening for students who with ADHD or other factors that inhibit their ability to listen for long periods of time? #reThinkELA
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: I allow students to give presentations ore lead discussions during lunch or after school with a group of their friends. It doesn’t have to happen during class. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    For a young student, I rec. the T start small. Have her present to just T a few times. Then add a friend or two. Keep working with her on a weekly basis, until she can present in front of larger groups. I think it's about building a tolerance, learning that it's OK. #reThinkELA
    In reply to @DanielleCalvin3
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    @DanielleCalvin3 I would def try having her present with a buddy/friend. Professors aren't going to allow you to present after class. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Breaking up listening into small chunks is so important, both during listening and during reading. #rethinkela
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Q4 What strategies do you use to promote small group discussions? #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I think if she starts small now, even out of class, in 4 yrs, she may have built that ability. It took me few mnths in college. #rethinkela
    In reply to @MsRasnic, @DanielleCalvin3
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    @watersenglish Yes! For ALL students! It's just good teaching. #reThinkELA
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A3: My class is 1:1 crime books and I have headphones. Allowing students to use headphones often eliminates distractions for those with ADHD. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    #reThinkELA I think ultimately, we want them to be able to present in front of the class. But we have to start where the students are without traumatizing them.
    • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Is the objective to get students to present or to present in front of the class?
      In reply to @watersenglish
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    #rethinkela A3: Do Ss have to sit and listen all the time? Have them move around in the room doing activities that go along with listening skills. I call it learning in action; I'm thinking about something like a Breakout EDU activity.
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A4: Socratic seminars and lit circles. These are awesome for engaging discussions. #rethinkela
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    To prepare for any discussion, I help students create good Qs the day before. You have to have good Qs to stimulate good discussion. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Yes! #rethinkela
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A4 We talk about open-ended vs. close-ended Qs so students aren't asking for just yes/no answers. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A4 We also talk about question-answer relationships -- right there questions, think and search, author and me, and on my own. https://t.co/Du53WCNB5s #reThinkELA
  • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A4) Never do small group disc. for its own sake or because I need to check email. Do it because they need to have their voices heard. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q5 What strategies do you use to promote whole class discussions? #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Love this! Students need to have their voices heard!!! #rethinkela
    In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    #rethinkela A4: So I do a combination of several strategies with small groups. My Ss may read something, annotate it, create three questions with answers using textual evidence, and then bring it to the group for discussion. If they can write about it, they can discuss it.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I really need to start doing lit circiles. Any good resources on how to set these up, logistics? #reThinkELA
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A5) With whole class it's important to me to define my role before we begin. Am I facilitator, listener, devil's advocate? Then position myself in the room accordingly. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Exactly! I also tell my S that they have no idea what they will be doing. Thirty years ago, I had no idea I'd host websites -- or later be a teacher. Be prepared for anything! #reThinkELA
    • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
      We also have to ask how will this help them 20 years from now. Not all people will speak to a large audience, but they will to a small group (i.e. job interview, sales pitch, etc)
      In reply to @watersenglish
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Are you talking about starting with Y/N questions, then moving into open-ended questions? #reThinkELA
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I love playing devil's advocate. Hehe! #rethinkela
    In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Making sure the Ss use textual evidence is so important-- and can scaffold their understanding for writing argumentative papers later. #reThinkELA
    In reply to @lsmellott
  • tsuejohnson Dec 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I just stumbled upon this #reThinkELA chat. Won't be able to make it tonight, but I LOVE that this is happening.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q6 What strategies do you use to support students in establishing and following appropriate rules for discussions? #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Glad you stopped in, even for just a few! I'll have an archive available later if you'd like to read the whole chat. Thank you! #rethinkela
    In reply to @tsuejohnson
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A6 I like to explain to the Ss that the rules are there to make sure everyone is heard. I talk to them about making sure even the quiet Ss are heard. I ask my extroverts to be aware and take care of my introverts. Notice when they haven't spoken, are trying to speak #reThinkELA
  • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A6) I'm a huge fan of the mute feature on Google Classroom. When they're not being constructive with their comments, mute! Nothing corrects the behavior faster.#reThinkELA
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #rethinkela A6: I use a rubric with my students where they receive points for talking at least three times, making eye-contact, listening without distracting the speaker, and having questions ready for the discussion.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    How do you use Classroom in conjunction with a class discussion? Are you hosting the discussion online? #rethinkela
    In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A6: I have students come up with Thierry norms. If we want student-centered discussion the norms should be as well. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I would love to see a copy of your rubric! #rethinkela
    In reply to @lsmellott
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Q7 What strategies do you use to support students in creating their own questions for small group or whole class discussions? #reThinkELA
  • AaronSBlackwel1 Dec 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Have to go now. Thanks for the chat. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Same here! Once I had the discussion, and asked the extroverts to take care of our introverts, I noticed them making an effort to help the Int. join in. #reThinkELA. I really warmed my heart. :D
    In reply to @lsmellott
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I have not heard of Thierry norms, I don't think. #rethinkela
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Glad you could make it! Check out the archive when you can, and hope to see you next week. #rethinkela
    In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Love this idea! I love the fact that there is a record of the discussion, just like with this chat. #reThinkELA
    • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
      I ask a question on GC and they respond. Everyone sees their response. I ask them to reply to at least one other person with a follow-up question or reason for agreement/disagreement.
      In reply to @watersenglish
  • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A7) Time! Give them a heads up before we start reading a text. "When we're done with chapter 2 I want you to have a question ready about..." And sticky notes never hurt to have at the ready. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q8 What strategies do you use to support students in preparing for discussions? #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A7 Discussion the question-answer relationships and the difference between open and closed questions really helped them create better questions. #reThinkELA
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I use level questions. It is an old AP strategy. This helps students create Qs that have numerous As or connect to universal themes. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    We use all kinds of sticky notes. They end up everywhere, but the kids get into annotating this way, esp. when we don't have enough book copies for everyone. #reThinkELA
    In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:41 PM EST
    #rethinkela A7: I read @HeidiHayesJacob book Active Literacy across the Curriculum. Ss need to interact with the text in some way to help them build literacy. They use words like contrast or explain to make their questions and then use the textual evidence for the answers.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I'm going to have to buy a copy of this book. #rethinkela
    In reply to @lsmellott, @HeidiHayesJacob
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Yes! And you can use sticky notes to help students formulate different types of Qs! Love sticky notes! #reThinkELA
    • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
      We use all kinds of sticky notes. They end up everywhere, but the kids get into annotating this way, esp. when we don't have enough book copies for everyone. #reThinkELA
      In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Can you recommend a resource to learn more about level questions? That question asked, I'll Google... LOL #rethinkela
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I love sticky notes. My students wrote questions or responses on sticky notes about the short story elements, and then we did a gallery walk around the room answering the questions. #rethinkELA
    In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I have one class of Ss bring stickies at the beginning of the year, so I always end up with plenty. #rethinkela
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I am stealing this idea! #rethinkela
    In reply to @lsmellott, @mrsmcreading
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Next question in less than 1 minute. #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Q9 How do you integrate technology to support and enhance students’ speaking and listening skill development? #reThinkELA
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #rethinkela A8: Small or whole class discussions take practice. Start with Elbow partners, then elevator speeches, then speed talking, and end with Socratic discussions. It's a recursive process.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Is this what you're talking about? Sounds similar to QAR https://t.co/GIKuQoFiDe #reThinkELA
  • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A9) Experimenting with flipgrid has been interesting. Building confidence with <1min responses. Letting Ss choose where they make their video. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A9 I love the idea of using Classroom for discussions! #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I have toyed with #flipgrid a bit. I need to just give the Ss a question and let them run with it! #rethinkela
    In reply to @mrsmcreading
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    @watersenglish You've got it! I focus on teaching students to create Level 2 and Level 3 Qs. You can use sticky notes to help students understand the different levels. #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    I will definitely have to check with my bank. I'd never thought of that! #reThinkELA
    • mrsmcreading Dec 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Also ask banks and pharmaceutical reps. They always have tons with their logo on them. It's a great game for the Ss to see which medicine is on their sticky note!
      In reply to @watersenglish, @MsRasnic
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #rethinkela A9: We make movies, commercials, podcasts, or we do a Poetry Slam which will be done on Dec. 15th in my class. Ss wrote poetry, and they will present it. Of course, they have to write a script first which brings in the writing skills.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    This is what I told them, as well. They come up with some really deep questions when you teach them this and push them. #reThinkELA
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q10 How do you connect the speaking & listening skills to another standard? #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:50 PM EST
    I want to see the movies and commercials your students produce! I also want mine to do the same. Hmmm... the ideas.... #rethinkela
    In reply to @lsmellott
  • MsRasnic Dec 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Checking out! Thanks for the fun chat, friends! #reThinkELA
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    I had a student write about music for his senior paper and wrote a script for a movie called The Rhythm of Life. He had another student film and edit it and brought in other students to act in it. It was awesome! #rethinkela
    In reply to @watersenglish
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Thank you so much for joining us. Hope to see you next week! #rethinkela
    In reply to @MsRasnic
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I remember you telling me about that last year. I borrowed your project and had Ss build a sound system. They presented their design in class with a PPT. They also got their first gig that day! #reThinkELA
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Before you go! We would love to have you guest-host a #reThinkELA chat! Just DM @watersenglish to schedule a day and topic!
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #rethinkela A10: You can't do one without the others when teaching seniors. It's all about building the literacy skills. My Ss did a Big Idea Presentation for the senior paper idea, and now they are writing it. They had to research and plan it out first.
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Thank you all so much for joining us this evening. I'm looking forward to learning with you and getting to know you all better! #rethinkela
  • watersenglish - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    You need to tell us more about your senior's projects -- perhaps in a future chat, or a blog post. Love this idea! #rethinkela
    In reply to @lsmellott
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    #rethinkela Thanks everyone for joining us for this wonderful discussion.
  • lsmellott - Moderator Dec 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I think these projects need to be brought to the juniors or sophomores. The senior year is beginning to go a different direction. #rethinkela
    In reply to @watersenglish