#edchatie Archive
Monday November 6, 2017
3:30 PM EST
fboss
Nov 6 @ 3:30 PM EST
Welcome to tonight's
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discussion. Before we start please introduce yourself & add the hashtag into all your tweets
ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 3:31 PM EST
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π Ciara McGuane, education consultant with RathΓΊ π
5j18MsDoran
Nov 6 @ 3:33 PM EST
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Gemma Doran, NQT currently in mg first year teaching and perusing my masters. π
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 3:33 PM EST
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Laurence Cuffe Math teacher and tutor with KWETB in Wicklow
debs_hogan
Nov 6 @ 3:33 PM EST
Deborah Hogan business and computer science teacher, Kilkenny π
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fboss
Nov 6 @ 3:34 PM EST
Fred Boss, 2nd level Art Teacher, currently with
@NCCAie
and very much looking forward to tonight's
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discussion
fboss
Nov 6 @ 3:36 PM EST
OK - let's get started then. Please add in relevant links if you have them as you discuss βFormative Assessment Strategiesβ on
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magicmuinteoir
Nov 6 @ 3:36 PM EST
#parentteachermeetings
#tistheseason
#hastobedone
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#dreadisnotastrongenoughword
AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 3:36 PM EST
Aishling here, post primary teacher, Cavan
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PSullivan28
Nov 6 @ 3:37 PM EST
Patrick Sullivan, former teaching principal and now working in NCCA ππππππππππ
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DunleavyMs
Nov 6 @ 3:38 PM EST
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Siobhan Dunleavy, nqt music and religion teacher. π
debs_hogan
Nov 6 @ 3:39 PM EST
I used mentimeter, good way to assess understanding π
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:40 PM EST
Great chapter on Assessment in this from
@C_Hendrick
&
@robin_macp
Featuring
@daisychristo
&
@dylanwiliam
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:42 PM EST
Chapter summary on assessment in "What Does This Look Like in the Classroom"
@C_Hendrick
@robin_macp
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jdunne_ie
Nov 6 @ 3:42 PM EST
John Dunne, 2nd level teacher of Business, Maths & Coding short course
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5j18MrPuszcz
Nov 6 @ 3:43 PM EST
Adam Puszczewicz, R.E. teacher currently pursuing a masters
@DublinCityUni
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AineMcMahon
Nov 6 @ 3:44 PM EST
Looking to speak to teachers or trainee teachers who don't have the certificate in religious studies for an Irish Times article
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CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 3:44 PM EST
Adding the hash tag
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CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 3:43 PM EST
I like the idea of Concept mapping,
https://t.co/aKYXk08lIW
But mostly I teach small groups and just ask them
PSullivan28
Nov 6 @ 3:46 PM EST
Really great summary
@EllenKMetcalf
a key point Iβd add is the role of teacher/student relationship and sharing of expectations
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:42 PM EST
Chapter summary on assessment in "What Does This Look Like in the Classroom"
@C_Hendrick
@robin_macp
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ruanemedu
Nov 6 @ 3:46 PM EST
Mary here, GC from Galway
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:46 PM EST
For 1st/2nd yrs I often give them a pre-test that they peer-correct a couple of days before the real test.
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5j18MsDoran
Nov 6 @ 3:46 PM EST
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I'm using
#pixton
with TYs to create storyboards on a text or to create a modern day retelling of it.
https://t.co/LjXLdXz58W
fboss
Nov 6 @ 3:47 PM EST
See Focus on Learning booklet series from
@NCCAie
which contain several Formative Assessment Strategies
https://t.co/1YsUGuGEg3
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miriambergin
Nov 6 @ 3:47 PM EST
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Miriam Bergin PP teacher of business studies and coding and PLC ....
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 3:47 PM EST
I also feel that when it comes to assessment, less is more.
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Motivate and inspire, not judge.
AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
Feedback very important for moving forward in learning!
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In reply to @PSullivan28, @EllenKMetcalf
istone_irene
Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
Irene Stone, Maths and Coding teacher, St. Mark's CS, Tallaght
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
This only really works where all, or almost items, being assessed will fit on the test. Doesn't work as well if test is a sample
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5j18msquinn
Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
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Patricia Quinn, secondary school teacher and postgrad student π
PSullivan28
Nov 6 @ 3:50 PM EST
I enjoyed using table cloth activities enabling collaboration and assessment- chn decide their shared learning and next steps
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ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 3:51 PM EST
#AfL
a great concept when built into lesson & applied effectively
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- Progress Arrows are great ways to engage students with AfL
5j18msquinn
Nov 6 @ 3:51 PM EST
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I find the 3-2-1 activity helpful, especially with younger students! π
https://t.co/eNnuwy4NNO
DunleavyMs
Nov 6 @ 3:51 PM EST
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I often use exit slips. This allows me to assess the comprehension of a topic.
https://t.co/i5DGpzPv6R
ruanemedu
Nov 6 @ 3:51 PM EST
I'm lucky to be in IT lab for careers, I use google classroom & suite for cv and career investigation, quick turnaround, comments
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istone_irene
Nov 6 @ 3:52 PM EST
GoogleDocs allows teacher to prompt learners &scaffold learning through comments. Students can also work collaboratively on docs
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debs_hogan
Nov 6 @ 3:52 PM EST
A RT, interesting read
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Teachers: your guide to learning strategies that really work
https://t.co/5qIvouvxfK
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 3:52 PM EST
Yes if its a skill. I'm not so sure about other forms of learning.
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unfavorable feedback can be very demotivating
In reply to @AshDonohoe, @PSullivan28, @EllenKMetcalf
ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 3:53 PM EST
Building HOT questioning into mini progress checks to inform teaching
#AfL
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:53 PM EST
According to this 45% of secondary pupils don't think they get enough, or the right kind of "feedback"
https://t.co/J9dTKGg5FG
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 3:53 PM EST
Feedback should always be constructive and in some light positive!
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In reply to @CuffeL, @PSullivan28, @EllenKMetcalf
istone_irene
Nov 6 @ 3:54 PM EST
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placemats used in maths classroom, can very quickly see students "thinking" through walking around classroom
istone_irene
Oct 27 @ 1:03 PM EDT
How many different ways to solve?Factorising, table, graph, formula. Using placemat to share ideas
@ProjectMaths_ie
@JCforTeachers
miriambergin
Nov 6 @ 3:54 PM EST
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I use apps as an AFL
https://t.co/ltieL7jOMV
mostly us Kahoot, ePortfolio, twitter, edupuzzle...
EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:54 PM EST
This shows, I think, that we've created a monster. Kids are obsessed with "feedback" with v little understanding of what it is
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EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:53 PM EST
According to this 45% of secondary pupils don't think they get enough, or the right kind of "feedback"
https://t.co/J9dTKGg5FG
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miriambergin
Nov 6 @ 3:55 PM EST
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working on developing use of ePorfolio as an AFL
https://t.co/j6wab5tWSB
MajellaDempsey
Nov 6 @ 3:56 PM EST
NB to include 3 key actors, teacher, peers and students and I favour William 5 key strategies, evidence NB
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 3:57 PM EST
Giving feedback to every student is difficult for everything they do. Is there a way to effectively give good feedback?
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In reply to @EllenKMetcalf
EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 3:58 PM EST
Agree completely. Would take results with a large pinch of salt. Encourages kids to worry they're not been taught properly
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In reply to @ruanemedu
MajellaDempsey
Nov 6 @ 3:58 PM EST
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this tells me that skills of self assessment are not being developed, peer assessment and feedback also NB
In reply to @EllenKMetcalf
debs_hogan
Nov 6 @ 3:59 PM EST
I agree
@ruanemedu
.. google classroom is excellent! Iβm using it to post quick m. choice qβs PPts/notes.. assignments and articles
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DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 3:59 PM EST
Dearbhla, Infant teacher, Kildare. As has been mentioned, with assessment, less is more, quality over quantity and pretty folders
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fboss
Nov 6 @ 4:00 PM EST
We're halfway through tonight's
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discussion on Formative Assessment Strategies. Grab a halftime orange and then jump back in
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:00 PM EST
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Agreed. A sign of insecurity and dependency.
In reply to @EllenKMetcalf
EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 4:01 PM EST
This, from
@joe__Kirby
, is brilliant. Individual comments are not the only/the best way!
https://t.co/KxMOx14UVo
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In reply to @AshDonohoe, @joe__kirby
DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:01 PM EST
My older students were great fans of Kahoot which I regularly used for assessment. Plickers is another useful tool
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 4:02 PM EST
Tried peer assess wt 3rd yrs recently, and got them to give feedback to eachother. Not as successful as I'd hoped, needs tweeking
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ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 4:03 PM EST
Using success criteria as guidance, peer assessment enables students to give each other feedback orally/written & you can refine
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In reply to @AshDonohoe, @EllenKMetcalf
DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:03 PM EST
Giving on the spot feedback does work, especially with infants. Sometimes we can be too quick to record and analyse etc
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PSullivan28
Nov 6 @ 4:03 PM EST
AfL great for promoting participation and engagement
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 4:03 PM EST
I need to get a visualiser! On my wishlist! π€
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In reply to @MajellaDempsey, @EllenKMetcalf
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:04 PM EST
I pose a problem, correct it on the board, and then walk through the class asking if anyone wants me to go over anything.
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In reply to @AshDonohoe, @EllenKMetcalf
DunleavyMs
Nov 6 @ 4:05 PM EST
I agree. I think it depends on class dynamic and abilities. Can be potentially daunting for weaker students.
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In reply to @AshDonohoe
5j18MrPuszcz
Nov 6 @ 4:05 PM EST
We just finished a round of projects/presentations with first year. Each pupil was assigned a student to give positive feedback to
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DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:05 PM EST
As teachers we're hit with latest fads in education re:assessment.Do what you feel works.As
@FoleyKev
says 'teach from the heart'
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DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:06 PM EST
for Kahoot we had 5/6 iPads. So group assessment on given topic. For plickers only teacher needs phone :)
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In reply to @ruanemedu
miriambergin
Nov 6 @ 4:06 PM EST
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have used peer assessment in business but sometimes sts don't want to say negative comments, need criteria to based judgement
ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 4:07 PM EST
It takes time & training for it to be done effectively but valuable and is working smarter which I β€οΈ
#peerassessment
#afl
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In reply to @ruanemedu, @AshDonohoe, @EllenKMetcalf
MajellaDempsey
Nov 6 @ 4:08 PM EST
Marking rubrics can help
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In reply to @miriambergin
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:08 PM EST
Students can find failure a risk free comfort zone if feedback always shows gaps.
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In reply to @DunleavyMs, @AshDonohoe
sarahcorcoran55
Nov 6 @ 4:08 PM EST
Kahoot is great I find. Instant and easy
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In reply to @DearbhlaHere
EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 4:08 PM EST
So do I!!
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In reply to @AshDonohoe, @MajellaDempsey
DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:09 PM EST
Im kind of fired up here but I'm not gonna assess every little move my students make,and I'd gladly stand over that
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 4:09 PM EST
Yes and also subject! I did it in science class, not great! Tried it with 4 weak maths students, worked better! All on same page!
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In reply to @DunleavyMs
fboss
Nov 6 @ 4:10 PM EST
With 20 minutes remaining in tonight's
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hour, please share any other Formative Assessment Strategies - in class or school-wide
5j16MsDelahoy
Nov 6 @ 4:10 PM EST
Amazing idea for 1st years!
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@MsTrishC
MsTrishC
Nov 4 @ 1:00 PM EDT
Copy Check Time
#1stYear
sticker code for corrections stamper for work complimented
#1stYearEnglish
#1stYearHistory
@CorkHTA
@Team_English1
trendinaliaIE
Nov 6 @ 4:10 PM EST
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ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 4:10 PM EST
100% it's about what is effective for students and teachers
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#worksmarterbehappier
In reply to @DearbhlaHere, @FoleyKev
EllenKMetcalf
Nov 6 @ 4:11 PM EST
I find peer assessment can work when quantitative/ looking for common errors, but less so when qualitative judgment called for
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In reply to @ruanemedu, @ciaramcguane, @AshDonohoe
DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:11 PM EST
the students love it. I used it at summer camp this year on a rainy day with movie/pop trivia. They went wild!
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In reply to @sarahcorcoran55
sarahcorcoran55
Nov 6 @ 4:11 PM EST
Sarah. Post primary teacher in Westmeath. As we move towards a system of comment grading/no results, formative more NB than ever
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CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:12 PM EST
Not a big fan here.
https://t.co/bD8IplTWAT
Too Mechanical. Will help a lot when the A.I.'s take over our job.
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In reply to @MajellaDempsey, @miriambergin
istone_irene
Nov 6 @ 4:14 PM EST
can't remember where I saw tweet :( classroom walls covered with whiteboards; students work in groups of 3 solving a problem
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CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:14 PM EST
We're trying to put numbers on something that is not in principle countable. What % of your religion or politics do you know?
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In reply to @donovanpaul
MajellaDempsey
Nov 6 @ 4:15 PM EST
If they are well developed and formative rather than marks they can help students judge good work,
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In reply to @CuffeL, @miriambergin
5j18MrPuszcz
Nov 6 @ 4:15 PM EST
A positive way of engaging students in critical thinking skills
https://t.co/jATU8HFkgx
#FISH
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5j18MsDoran
Nov 6 @ 4:16 PM EST
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4 students to one placemat. They sum up the class using keywords on their own then work together to put top 4 keywords into middle
sarahcorcoran55
Nov 6 @ 4:17 PM EST
The good ole show me boards are my most used method.
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miriambergin
Nov 6 @ 4:17 PM EST
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tried this with coding
https://t.co/fUeQjVNrxo
as a means of AFL and differentiation...
In reply to @MajellaDempsey, @CuffeL
trendinaliaIE
Nov 6 @ 4:18 PM EST
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ruanemedu
Nov 6 @ 4:18 PM EST
Thank you
@fboss
a lot of us using same ideas, good to know
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CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:19 PM EST
Pass, fail makes sense. Maybe add distinction. More than that is, IMHO, a deceptive use of numbers, too linear a model.
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In reply to @ruanemedu, @MajellaDempsey, @miriambergin
GemmaMcx3
Nov 6 @ 4:19 PM EST
If any secondary school teachers could take 2 minutes to fill out this survey as part of my final year project please
https://t.co/YR0tHyayXT
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 4:19 PM EST
Love this, effective ...and sooo easy to do!
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In reply to @5j18MsDoran
marykateb
Nov 6 @ 4:20 PM EST
Used Traffic Lights in class found them good. Have also used Kahoot! And the students love this
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istone_irene
Nov 6 @ 4:20 PM EST
Found it.. love this
https://t.co/LYUWRorNws
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MrSurti
Nov 3 @ 3:03 PM EDT
What do you think is going on in
@AlexOverwijk
βs MHF4U right now? If the answer is anything other than a test youβd be wrong!
#vnps
@GlebeCI
DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:20 PM EST
I like progressive brainstorms for assessment too.
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sandrinepk
Nov 6 @ 4:22 PM EST
#Spanish
Food project Thanks to
@ATSirlanda
members for all their great suggestions
https://t.co/rqQnpthemk
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hey_km
Nov 6 @ 4:23 PM EST
Why not discuss the purpose of feedback with students? This guide from
@DocWinstone
is a great start.
https://t.co/nSZvh8360K
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CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:23 PM EST
But: Potentially 32 different levels of knowledge here, or 4 levels in eight dimensions. Is this really a good numerical model?
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In reply to @miriambergin, @MajellaDempsey
debs_hogan
Nov 6 @ 4:24 PM EST
Excellent go to list of strategies from
@JCforTeachers
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https://t.co/86RvUKApkk
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:25 PM EST
Yup. Follow the storm and look at the damage, see where you are going! Discussion is core to good learning
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In reply to @DearbhlaHere
5j18MrPuszcz
Nov 6 @ 4:25 PM EST
If anyone gets a chance, John Gardner gave an excellent lecture for
@carpe_dcu
a few weeks back. interesting ideas on assessment!
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DearbhlaHere
Nov 6 @ 4:26 PM EST
some we did last year. Group write what they know about one topic, move on to another groups sheet and fill it
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In reply to @DearbhlaHere
fboss
Nov 6 @ 4:27 PM EST
Transcript is collated & published tomorrow, so feel free to add in more tweets after the official hour's up if you wish
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AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 4:27 PM EST
Would like to try jigsaw! Chatted to a tchr
@FEILTE
about it. He was a big fan! Anyone any thoughts?
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In reply to @debs_hogan, @JCforTeachers, @FEILTE
MajellaDempsey
Nov 6 @ 4:28 PM EST
No wifi in Laois tonight, using 3G
@vodafoneireland
poor service. Can't open attachments. Rubrics can be used formatively
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In reply to @CuffeL, @miriambergin, @VodafoneIreland
PSullivan28
Nov 6 @ 4:29 PM EST
Exciting new blog from
@IRLchangED
based on the excellent BERA Blog
#edchatie
https://t.co/BFVY3LBr5h
AshDonohoe
Nov 6 @ 4:29 PM EST
Oh i like this idea... could it be used as rapid revision tool?!
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In reply to @DearbhlaHere
CuffeL
Nov 6 @ 4:29 PM EST
Yes, yes and Yes. Privately they may look at something and decide they need to know more.
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In reply to @DearbhlaHere
ciaramcguane
Nov 6 @ 4:29 PM EST
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