#2ndchat Archive

#2ndchat is a Twitter hashtag that can be used to chat, collaborate, and grow with other second grade educators from around the world. Every other week we will discuss a different topic. It's a great way to help grow your PLN (Professional/Personal Learning Network) and share ideas with others.
Wednesday May 10, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
  • participatechat May 10 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #2ndchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/UCuzNcNGXK
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    The monopoly of dry erase marker brands and how they all stink, dry up, get lost! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Hello #2ndchat!!! Let's start tonight off right! ☺️
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi everyone, Mary from VA. #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi Mary! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi Carol! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Amanda Walker, 2nd grade from Birmingham! #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm Carol from Birmingham, AL. I teach 2nd grade. This is me with all I need to do before the end of school! #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi Mary!! Good to see you!! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Thanks, Amanda for cohosting tonight! :) #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Yes! Nailed it. LOL #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Shawn from Vallejo, Ca. 2nd grade. Love science, books, and forgot the rest of hte prompt. #2ndchat Some reason they are so needy right now
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hi Amanda. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    I am also this GIF. I look forward to seeing my family but will miss this class! #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    I think it's because they're going to miss us!!! #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    I AGREE! I feel like I am constantly saying, "There's only 1 of me! Hang on a second!" :) #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @swkreed
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Yes!!! Totally agree! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Mollie from Columbus, Ohio. I teach 2nd. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Definitely a wise teacher said sometimes the most needy express in the "worst" ways in the summer. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Q1 coming up! #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Hi, Mollie! Glad you are here! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Q1. Why do we assess? What’s the difference in assessment and evaluation? #2ndchat
  • LBoeglin May 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Lisa from Indiana checking in #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Bhahahaha! Yes! Hi Mollie! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Hi, Lisa! Good to see you! #2ndchat
    In reply to @LBoeglin
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Thats my walk in after lunch. What now?! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    I said that today. #truefact #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @swkreed
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: We assess to see if our students have understanding and where to go from that point. #2ndchat
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: we assess to understand where our Ss are in the curriculum #2ndchat Check for understanding of material taught
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Hi Lisa!! #2ndchat
    In reply to @LBoeglin
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    #2ndchat best analogy I love .Treat your students like plants. Formative assessment is like watering, pruning and tending to help it grow
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1 cont: Summative is a measuring stick to see how tall your plant has grown. They are different and should be celebrated in growth #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: Assessment- %s graded work, cut/dry results (traditionally speaking).Evaluation- digging deep into the stdnt's understanding #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    This is an awesome way to say it!!! #2ndchat
    • swkreed May 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
      #2ndchat best analogy I love .Treat your students like plants. Formative assessment is like watering, pruning and tending to help it grow
      In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • LBoeglin May 10 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    To determine next steps #2ndchat
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1:asses to gauge student understanding, to differentiate, to measure growth progression thru unit... #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: Assessment/Evaluation should be help you reflect as a teacher- it's not just about the kids' efforts. #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1: I think we assess to see where they are to know what to teach to get them towards their goals. #probablyarunonsentence #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    I like evaluation much better! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1: I think the main problem with this is what could assessment/evaluation look like? Most get stuck on a worksheet/test. #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Q2: Does your school use traditional, standards-based, some other form of grading, or does your school not use a grading scale? #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Evaluation takes other things into account. Traditional assessment is too cut/dry. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Yes! Super important to grow yourself through this! #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: We use standards based grading 1-4 for ELA and Math. SS science, PE etc is Effort grades. We are starting to use gradebook #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    It becomes more performanced based versus it's traditional counterpart. #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1:as I've incor more digital tools/options to show learning I see higher engagement and better effort to show what they know. #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: K-2 use a S(secure),P(progressing),BE(beginning to unders) scale but most grade as % grade & translate it into the other scale. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Oh man.. Topic test. Add two numbers together make sure the summer is odd with this specific range..Many gave me this look #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    In 1sr, 2nd grade, we use E, M, P, and B exceeds, meets, preogressing and below standard #2ndchat 3 -5th traditional
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Do you have a picture of what the gradebook looks like? Very interested in starting one myself. #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2:standards based report cards. Marks are 1-4 and tied to performance level descriptors. New system. Growth exp for Ts and Ps. #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    So is Gradebook a standards based program or are they just putting the scale into % grades? #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @MrsW2nd
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    It's revolutionizing the way we do things!! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Its apart of our SIS system. Doesnt translate well to grades. Imagine a fancy spreadsheet Not by choice :( #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    This is definitely a step in the right direction, but it still has some element of subjectivity that needs to be considered #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    So do you guys end up marking things in %s and making it fit the scale or do you have other tools to use? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: We use S (satisfactory), P (Progressing), and BE (Beginning). #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    ill send ou a screen shot though about what it kinda looks like. Check out @kiddomapp for a digital gradebook tool. Pretty neat #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @kiddomapp
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    YES! This is what has been bothering me. Even if we went to a standards based grading system, 1 of 2 #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @mollienye72
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    We end up using percents but we try hard to have the E - mean exceed standards, something above and beyond the standard #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Traditional Report Cards are Obsolete - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher https://t.co/YrTH0CE3VI #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: I started trying standards based documentation this year, but have a long way to go. #2ndchat
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A Better Way to Report Learning - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher https://t.co/ahASMA43Di #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    I think people would just grade traditionally & make it fit the scale. 2 of 2 #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @mollienye72
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    I like this... what about M for mastery? #2ndchat
    • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:19 PM EDT
      A2: We use S (satisfactory), P (Progressing), and BE (Beginning). #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Q3: What flaws are there in traditional grading? Does it help our students? #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Its right now Standards based grade report card... do gradebook to apease the uppers but doesnt translate well into the reportcard #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @MrsW2nd
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Thank you for coming to this chat! I'm frustrated w/ what we have now! I just don't know how to fix it! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    That's kind of what I started. Fancy spreedsheet with all standards. Our report card system can supposed be converted to it. #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    unless you understand why the change is happening, it's easy to just change the language #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @mollienye72
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Do you see what I'm saying? It's the same traditional grading system in a new wrapper. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Performance Level Descriptors for each standard? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    that's where it starts... frustration breeds change. At least that's how it worked for me #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    It just seems like a new wrapper but same way to assess/evaluate. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @mollienye72
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A Recovering Perfectionist's Journey To Give Up Grades | Starr Sackstein | TEDxYouth@BHS - YouTube https://t.co/ipi7nbxNpj #2ndchat
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    I don't care for the way we do report cards but not sure how to improve it. #2ndchat Portfolios may be the long term solution
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @mcarlson110
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Yes, I agree. We try to add questions on tests that show higher level thinking for the E #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    There's so much that bugs me about it. I did buy your book though! https://t.co/fFq89VEjiX #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    We've had talks about you other have it or you don't. Mastery or working on it. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Right. I thought "Mastery" and "Working on it" would be better than a 4 pt scale. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @mssackstein
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    https://t.co/aQFjR9jQVQ #2ndchat I thought this was so interesting and paradigm shifting
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Oh! Is that something your district developed or did you find it somewhere on the net? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    But do you see my fear in moving to a new way to grade when it's really just the old way in disguise? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Ps still don't really understand our grading system - some Ps are relieved to go to 3rd grade w/traditional A-F scale #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    What book? #2ndchat #booknerd
    In reply to @missmac100, @mssackstein
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    I am on a good path then... : ) #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    #2ndchat Janie Hachen popping in late. Sorry!!
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Yes. we need to do something differently. Maybe digital portfolios like @Seesaw #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    https://t.co/7dH7Z5PjCW #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @mssackstein
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    I bought it too!!! Can't wait to read it! #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @missmac100, @mssackstein
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    I think that is better. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Janie! Welcome early or late! #2ndchat
    In reply to @Hachen2nd
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Love it! Got it #hacklearning #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @mssackstein
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Just in case y'all missed it. #2ndchat
    • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
      Q3: What flaws are there in traditional grading? Does it help our students? #2ndchat
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    I am frustrated w/ my Ss EOY scores - not good BUT I can see how much so many Ss have improved in @Seesaw #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @Seesaw, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3: Traditional grading doesn't show the current status of understanding. It's an average. #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3: It doesn't help the students AT ALL! ONce the work is turned in, they seem out of the process & that is not right. #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Do you have the paid version of Seesaw? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    YES... the REAL work my kids did: writing samples, digital work, spelling, etc...you can see growth. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @Seesaw
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3: It doesn't work. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3: It serves to show the avg of all of their performance instead of growth. Perfects dont mind it. strugglers are always behind. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Yes, I am an ambassador so I do @Seesaw #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @missmac100, @Seesaw, @Seesaw
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Q4: Do you think standards based grading is better? What are the pros/cons of standards based grading? #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3: I once saw this speaker show 5 different students' averages & we discussed which stdnt really understands. EYE opening. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Thats the point! Why arent they as tall at those plants.. they need what they need and they will grow! #2ndchat #plantsonthebrain
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Oh my! I can't keep up and I'm replying to tweets in wrong order! My apologies to all. #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Have you enjoyed/think it's worth having the rubric portion to it? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Reply in any order- it's all good! :) #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    And of course, a big part of my eval is based on EOY scores. #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    The struggle becomes real for them and sometimes they can't rise above it. #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    I have not explored that part yet. I feel that the free version worked well for me. Something for the summer. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4: I think standards based grading is better than traditional IF and ONLY IF, it's not just a new wrapper for traditional grades. #2ndchat
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Good luck! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @MrsW2nd, @Seesaw
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    I definitely want to check it out. Wondered how well it matched up to what I was doing. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A3: Our new reading series has a standards based test online. I think It looks much better than the past tests. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Thats our job is to dig through the junk and move each student above the muck to do better than before #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I can give you my code for another 30 days - once I find out how to do that once again. :) #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @Hachen2nd, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: It would mean more to kids if they knew what they were working on. I think kids are out of the loop most of the time-our fault #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    It is unfortunately #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A4:Standards based could be better w/ detail record keeping on the teacher's part.I think it helps students lead their own learning.#2ndchat
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Right now it seems like more work BUT many Ts love it. I will be looking into it further #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Yes! They have to be involved! It's powerful when they know what's going on. #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: Ss Conferences have been huge with struggling readers..assessments..talking through the misconceptions.. celebrate growth. #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    I will post it here after the chat for anyone who wants it - after this chat. :) #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @mollienye72, @MrsW2nd, @Seesaw
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Q5: How about non-grading? What would this look like for the teacher/student/parent? #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: Parents & kids would understand standards based grading better if it didn't have a 4 pt scale. AGAIN, tchrs use %s, no change #2ndchat
  • LBoeglin May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Q4 in K, I used combo of work samples, tasks, running records, observation notes to complete sub report card. #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    What reading series are y'all using? #2ndchat
    In reply to @Hachen2nd
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    And party hard for growth.. more than once @mrsreedsclass14 has asekd me to shut my door because we get hyped on our learning #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @mrsreedsclass14
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A5: I am loving @Seesaw to do this and the Ps love having access. @Seesaw helped me in a child study to show Ss difficulties #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A5: I know a few teachers that use comments/conference notes only but they still have to give a "grade" at the end. How? #2ndchat
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Journeys is the series. I have heard good things from the pilot teachers. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • LBoeglin May 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Some T created additional assessments to use for report card; so redundant and unauthentic #2ndchat
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Just yuck! #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @missmac100
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    I'm so glad! I hope it helped #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Right! That's my fear. If you go from nontraditional grading/evaluation- you can't go back. #2ndchat
    In reply to @LBoeglin
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A5: I find non-grading most interesting, but I think it has a lot of freedom to it. Helps students build confidence. No worries. #2ndchat
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I like the names better, but it would be better if we didn't have to label learning at all, honestly #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @MrsW2nd
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    That's amazing! Elementary schools do this much better than most high schools #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72, @missmac100
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A5: I think nongrad is really effective when there is a digitial/physical portfolio to show growth, effort and tracking. @seesaw #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @Seesaw
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Ts are busy trying to create authentic learning - PBL, STEM< STEAM, etc but grading has not changed #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I agree. I just wish we could talk about the learning. What do you suggest? Is it in your book? #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @MrsW2nd
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Maybe #HackingAssessment https://t.co/ZYiMnMXgWV #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @missmac100
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Unless your curriculum assessments SUUUUUUUCKKK! #2ndchat
    In reply to @LBoeglin
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I'm so glad! #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @missmac100
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I hope you find it useful! #2ndchat
    In reply to @Hachen2nd, @missmac100, @swkreed
  • DebraSerio May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Do any of you use Google Sites as portfolio space? #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    True! Freedom for the kids to just be kids and learn! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @missmac100
  • LBoeglin May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    I also love Seesaw! Kids love it and parents can see process; not just final product with some of the features #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Hi Debra! I have heard of some using Google Sites as a portfolio but I have not seen one in action. #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Yes! We created one for our student led conferences this year. So easy! #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    not just in the book,Im always looking for a continued better way to report learning and/more importantly get kids to take abt it #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @MrsW2nd
  • DebraSerio May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    @mssackstein #2ndchat we need to create a new platform. Any chance you are working on this?
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    No but thats a good idea or Google Sites... there is a bit of a learning curve for Gsuite but #gafe4lttles BECAUSE THEY CAN!#2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Sounds interesting. ould love to know more #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72, @missmac100
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Q6: Which type of “grading” do you think would help the student the most? The parent? The teacher? #2ndchat
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    This sounds good!! Have you created things that help you organize it all? #2ndChat
    In reply to @LBoeglin
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    As soon as we divorce grades from learning, kids are free to take more risks for sure, but we're battling the system for sure #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @missmac100
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    What would that look like? #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio, @mssackstein
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I did ask Seesaw for this feature: That students could have assess to standards/skills when doing a task 2 :) #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    My kids LOVED building their sites. They can use the new one with such ease. #gafe4littles #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @DebraSerio
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I'm always working on something. I've worked with a couple of folks already, but I'd love to create a new app for folks of all ages #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    For me, I'd like to see a portfolio app that allows for feedback/reflection/peer feedback and continued iteration and customization #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @DebraSerio
  • LBoeglin May 10 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    We are a "Leader in Me" school; just had student led conferences #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Completely agree. It's a battle teachers are having to fight too! Ain't nobody got time for useless grading. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    RIGHT! My stdts work hard on things they love, grade or no grade. They just want to learn. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @MrsW2nd
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Love it! Im sure peeps could do alot of that in GSuite #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio, @mssackstein
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    yes! exactly, I just had this conversation with an #edtech friend of mine @PeterBencivenga #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio, @swkreed, @PeterBencivenga
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    you can do it in Gsuite,I've done it there before with sites and docs etc, but I'd like something that is easier and more intuitive #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @DebraSerio
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I used to teach AP Lit. That's the place I'm coming from for sure #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio, @swkreed, @PeterBencivenga
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6: I think portfolios would help all the most. Parents would need help in changing the grading mindset. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Absolutely. Imagine the next gen of teachers with coding fluency. They want a digital tool for their classroom and they can make it #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @DebraSerio
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Amen!! #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @mssackstein, @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I am SO glad we are talking about this! I can also tell this is something you have all thought about too. #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    We would have to fight hard for a few years, but the payoff would be big in the long run! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I can tell you are all passionate about this too- lots of side conversations but they are GREAT side conversations! NEEDED! #2ndchat
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q7: How can we help parents understand their child’s progress? #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    I can add a page on the site. It might be after the chat. Remind me! #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72
  • mcarlson110 May 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Not sure it can happen at the T level - needs to start higher up. Ts can't suddenly decide not to grade the way district req #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @missmac100
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    The storify will be awesome to go back and read later! #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    I love that #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed, @DebraSerio
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    @PintoBeanz11 reminds me of these philosophy #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @DebraSerio, @PintoBeanz11
  • internet4classr May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Ziggity Zoom's #MothersDay Resources. https://t.co/m4Sn9oMqIh #edchat #elemchat #Art #2ndchat #3rdchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A7: I think we have to show parents multiple examples of their child's learning in different situations. #2ndchat
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    that's more important - they can teach us #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio, @swkreed
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    I think it needs admin backing for sure. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mcarlson110, @missmac100
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A7: I think something like a digital portfolio would help big time in communicating with parents. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A7: Give them a window into the room using Seesaw ClassDojo or Blooms especially in the primary.. they are so thankful #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Completely agree! Mine have quite enjoyed our student twitter account for just day to day updates, not necessarily assessment. #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    I was proud of my little after two days of @scratch she made a whole hide and seek game by herself #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @DebraSerio, @scratch
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Yes! #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A7: I think when they see the work of PBL and what the guidelines are on rubric. Use the digital portfolio. @Seesaw #2ndchat
    • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
      Q7: How can we help parents understand their child’s progress? #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    And then showed it to me.. we debugged it together and help create a finished product. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mssackstein, @DebraSerio, @scratch
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Bring on the ideas, PLN! Q8: Where should you start if you want to change from traditional grading? #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    I agree but I even find the rubric can become subjective. I've really been looking at how/what/why I'm grading. #2ndchat
    In reply to @Hachen2nd, @Seesaw
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    learning is students.. assessments is for adults... no student ever cheered for a test..well maybe I did sometimes.. #2ndchat Love Ss Tweets
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A8: I think this is a great place to start- question what you are doing & read/discuss different ways that could be better. #2ndchat
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Yep ScratchJr is an app and Scratch is web based. #2ndchat
    In reply to @mollienye72, @mssackstein, @DebraSerio, @scratch
  • vickiemorgado1 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A8 recommend reading @mssackstein book taking out grades. Connecting with those dong it. Joining late. Sorry #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd, @mssackstein
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Nope. All groans and sadness! #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    I agree. #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @Seesaw
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A8: I also think we need to read about different ideas and writings from @mssackstein @markbarnes19 and others that talk about it. #2ndchat
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A8: this book #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Hi, Vickie! :) #2ndchat
    In reply to @vickiemorgado1, @MrsW2nd, @mssackstein
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Welcome! Absolutely agree #2ndchat
    In reply to @vickiemorgado1, @MrsW2nd, @mssackstein
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    You remind me of this article I read a few weeks ago: https://t.co/F3lOpqhPZZ #2ndchat
    In reply to @DebraSerio
  • vickiemorgado1 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A8. Also Marc Burnes book. Helps. Talk to others who have taken the steps. Have a discussion with your SS. #2ndchat
    In reply to @MrsW2nd
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A8: I think we are on a paradigm shift that is adjusting economy, culture,learning with new tech.. "grades" need to catch up. #2ndchat
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    This is the first year you haven't had grades. How has it been? #2ndchat
    In reply to @vickiemorgado1
  • missmac100 - Moderator May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    agreed! #2ndchat
    In reply to @swkreed
  • swkreed May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    #Hacklearning is how I travel down to Los Angeles. Podcast love. 5% thinking Love it #2ndchat
    In reply to @missmac100, @mssackstein, @markbarnes19
  • Hachen2nd May 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    I heard something about this one! I want to read it!! #2ndchat
  • mssackstein May 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    there is a great group on Facebook #TTOG https://t.co/J11aGOtAXm #2ndchat
    In reply to @vickiemorgado1, @MrsW2nd
  • MrsW2nd May 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Oh! I didn't know #hacklearning was a podcast!!! I drive an hour to and from work each day!!! #2ndchat #mindblown
    In reply to @swkreed, @missmac100, @mssackstein, @markbarnes19
  • DebraSerio May 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    I think baby steps will convince you to do it. My first time was mind blowing #2ndchat
  • mollienye72 May 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Wow! The storify is going to be quite a digest! I may have to save reading it for Saturday w/ a cup of coffee - or two 😉! #2ndchat