#miched Archive

The #michED chat is a grassroots effort dedicated to giving teachers, students, and parents across Michigan a bigger voice in the conversation about education in our state. We welcome all voices through a variety of projects, media, and social networking. We’re trying to address educational issues through apolitical conversation, spreading ideas and stories of success from Michigan classrooms across the state, and helping teachers and students regain the courage to connect and demonstrate that schools in Michigan are creating amazing opportunities for learning. We want the face and voice of education in Michigan to be a mural of shared experiences and positive examples of connected learning.

Wednesday September 5, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to the first #michED chat of the year! Please introduce yourself. Tell us what you do & where you're from. And welcome our guest--author, speaker & innovation expert, Ted Dintersmith (@dintersmith)!
  • michEDchat - Moderator Sep 5 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    OMG! It's time for the FIRST #michED chat of the 2018-2019 school year! Come stop in and chat with us! #edchat
  • EduGladiators Sep 5 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    💻 NEW month! NEW #Edugladiators series! Join the convo SATURDAY w/Core Warrior @PaulONeill1972 moderating! Plus join our FB community The Arena 📲https://t.co/sYHQZuFye8 #edtechbridge #kidsdeserveit #fledchat #miched #onedchat #ilachat @alienearbud @MrKnight_SHS @Phippsb53
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    I'm Mike Petty from LakeVille Community Schools in Otisville. It's great to be with everyone tonight as many of start the new school year! #michED
  • cody_charles1 Sep 5 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Cody Charles from central Iowa, HS math teacher. First #miched chat. Glad to join a chat from a (semi) neighboring state
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Ben from St. Joseph checking in for the #michED Chat this evening! How is everyone doing this evening?
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    @dintersmith , we're so excited to have you with us! Thanks for taking time to discuss the ideas in your book, #WhatSchoolCouldBe & how they relate to Michigan schools. #michED
  • MrsMensingTPS Sep 5 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hello! Angel Mensing, Art Facilitator from Tecumseh, MI. #michED
  • lsrodgerspe Sep 5 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Elementary PE Teacher, Matt from Lake Shore. #miched
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Jess 3-5 art educator from Jackson checking in! So glad to be back chatting with y'all #michED
  • inspirecitizen1 Sep 5 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    #michED Steve from Inspire Citizens in Beijing. In a taxi on the way to Beijing City International School to collab on #teachsdgs and #pbl
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi #michED. I hope you all are rested and excited to be back. I know I am.
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Here's a big shout-out to my colleagues from @LkVlFalconPride! We used #WhatSchoolCouldBe for a book study this summer. It has opened the door for many important conversations. #michED
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome Mike! Thank you for taking the lead organizing and facilitating our opening chat. #MichED
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • cj_walker03 Sep 5 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    My name is Christopher Walker and I am an Educational Technology Consultant from Jackson Count ISD. Excited to be apart of a chat with @dintersmith and @mpetty39! #teamjxn #miched
  • jwilcox459 Sep 5 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    I’m Jennifer Wilcox, Math/ELA Interventionist from LakeVille Schools #miched
  • cj_walker03 Sep 5 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    My name is Christopher Walker and I am an Educational Technology Consultant from Jackson County ISD. Excited to be apart of a chat with @dintersmith and @mpetty39! #teamjxn #miched
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    As usual, for questions & answers we'll use the Q1), Q2)... and A1), A2)... format. The first question is coming up in about one minute. #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Q1) In the book, Ted concludes that real change “won't come from the top. It will happen one district, one building and one classroom at a time.” At what level is your school working on shift--the district, building or in individual classrooms? Explain. #michED
  • Dale_Chu Sep 5 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @dintersmith and @mpetty39 hosting a chat on #WhatSchoolCouldBe. Follow along at #michED! @michEDchat
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Anyone else trying not to be distracted by the Supreme Court confirmation hearing???? #MichED
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: I'm in a brand new district this year leading the Technology efforts, so change comes for me making tools and access more open. #michED
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: our district has really bought into cultivating a positive culture from every building and in every classroom. We use Nurtured Heart & PBIS...its created an amazing atmosphere! #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1) We've been at the classroom level, but this year I've already seen some shift at the building level. Really looking forward to it. And many of those teachers went through our book study this summer. #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Mike from Hudsonville, PBL coach #miched
  • MrsMensingTPS Sep 5 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Our district has taken BOLD steps to meet the needs of our learners. Proud to say that we are all bravely working on shifting to improve things for our kids. I agree, many "small" steps can make a BIG difference. #michED
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:08 PM EDT
      Q1) In the book, Ted concludes that real change “won't come from the top. It will happen one district, one building and one classroom at a time.” At what level is your school working on shift--the district, building or in individual classrooms? Explain. #michED
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Did you listen to Sheldon Whitehouse during the hearings? He was so on fire with his observations. #miched
    • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:10 PM EDT
      Anyone else trying not to be distracted by the Supreme Court confirmation hearing???? #MichED
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: I hear and see so many great things happening in our classrooms in my district. I think my building and district do a good job of guiding and listening to our needs. Always difficult if a district picks a one-thing-for-all approach to change. #miched
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Just one example of why I love spending my days in the Shores! #mylsps #miched
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Q2 coming up in about a minute. #michED
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    In your district, is there a particular person or group leading the charge? I'm always curious as to who pushes for positive change. #miched
    • MrsMensingTPS Sep 5 @ 8:11 PM EDT
      Our district has taken BOLD steps to meet the needs of our learners. Proud to say that we are all bravely working on shifting to improve things for our kids. I agree, many "small" steps can make a BIG difference. #michED
      • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:08 PM EDT
        Q1) In the book, Ted concludes that real change “won't come from the top. It will happen one district, one building and one classroom at a time.” At what level is your school working on shift--the district, building or in individual classrooms? Explain. #michED
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1: our shift comes through in every area possible, even picking up trash, greeting others and complimenting others are district wide expectations and it's opened the doorway for valuable teaching moments #michED
  • cody_charles1 Sep 5 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1: I don't want it to seem as if I am working in a silo, but I am trying to shift HS math to make it more 'relevant' this year. It is actually what my personalized PD is focused on. It is a complete paradigm shift, and scary at times, but am eager to start the process #miched
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Culture is so important. #miched
    In reply to @jesscrandell
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Proud of the work we've begun @mylsps. Transformation of instruction with 1:1, focusing on @DrTonyWagner survival skills, innovation with intention guides our improvement. #mylsps #miched
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Q2) Here are the PEAK Learning principles from the book. In what areas does your district, school or class do well and which need the most improvement? Please share examples. #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1: My experience is that change can come from teachers, but it takes admin. support to making lasting change. When teachers & principals agree, it can be powerful. #miched
  • inspirecitizen1 Sep 5 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1: #michEd Align teachers and students around meaningful PBL and learning will blossom
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • lsrodgerspe Sep 5 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1: Our school is focused on turning Ss into leaders. We are also kicking off our first year of the 1:1 tech. initiative. Exciting things happening @myLSPS #michED
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: I'm still too new to my district to know which of the PEAK Learning principles we excel at, but my own personal goal is to help foster more agency among staff and students. #michED
  • jrommel Sep 5 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Joe from St. Joe jumping on late, happy New Year #miched
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Agree, they don't always have to lead it, but at minimum they need to give change permission to happen and permission to take risks. #miched
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • PGrostic Sep 5 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A1: districts like @GBCSBobcats have a @PerryInnovation building with the mission of trying out innovating strategies! #MichED
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:08 PM EDT
      Q1) In the book, Ted concludes that real change “won't come from the top. It will happen one district, one building and one classroom at a time.” At what level is your school working on shift--the district, building or in individual classrooms? Explain. #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2) As we went through the book in our study, I think many of us realized we needed to improve in all four areas. Purpose and Agency probably need it the most. Part of my job is PD, so I'm focused on those two areas. #michED
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: I think I do well with P,E and K. In some ways I do well with A (some S choice, often the lessons are driven by their Qs) but I know it is the area I need the most growth. #miched
  • PGrostic Sep 5 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: definitely need to improve on Agency... systems make it difficult but Design Thinking and PBL help! #MichED
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      Q2) Here are the PEAK Learning principles from the book. In what areas does your district, school or class do well and which need the most improvement? Please share examples. #michED
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Essential Skills and Mindsets would be the one I pride myself on working so well in the art room. The art room has always been about more than making something "pretty". My kids come away with amazing skill sets that make them ready for 21st century living #michED
  • MEMSPAchat Sep 5 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Join #MEMSPAchat & @mrdomagalski - TOMORROW - Thursday (Sept 7) at 8:00pm "Setting High Expectations with Results" #miched #OHedchat #PIAchat #COLchat #nyedchat #edchat #education #principalsinaction
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    @dintersmith - At what point in the trip did you start to see the PEAK elements as important aspects of successful schools? #michED
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    In the book, I describe a school (Lawrenceville Academy) that re-tested returning Ss and, just three months after their final, Ss had forgotten almost everything. Do any of your schools explore ways to confirm (or not) that what Ss learn is retained? #miched
  • MrsMensingTPS Sep 5 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2: One of the things that we have worked on are our Exit Learner Outcomes. They have really helped us to focus on what our learners will know and be able to do when they graduate. #MichEd
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      Q2) Here are the PEAK Learning principles from the book. In what areas does your district, school or class do well and which need the most improvement? Please share examples. #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Q3 coming up soon. #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    If the focus is on transferable skills, rather than specific content knowledge then growth should be retained. #miched
    In reply to @dintersmith
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Q3) How can we be sure our students learned something at the deep level described in the PEAK Learning definition? (Deep, retained Knowledge: Students develop real mastery of the topics they study. They can apply it, ask thoughtful questions about it, and teach others.) #michED
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    I pride myself on Knowledge (for the students, of course). I really work to set my room up so that the Ss are often teaching each other. My goal is deep understanding of how and why concepts work and that they can explain their understanding. #miched
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2: Purpose is the area that I struggle with most in the art room. it's a shift in thinking that needs to happen for Ss to understand how important the arts are, it's tough sometimes in the world of student growth and data for them to articulate what it means to them #michED
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    We have begun conversations around spiraling of essential standards throughout the year, but not from year. Also beginning to look at NWEA data from spring to fall, and spring to spring instead of only fall to spring. #Miched
    In reply to @dintersmith
  • Dale_Chu Sep 5 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3: If they're able to successfully help/teach a peer who is struggling with the content/skill. #michED
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: PBL is a great framework for deeper learning. If students are working on authentic problems in their community, they are motivated & apply to new situations #miched
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3) I like using the test of "Can you teach others?" We did a project in math last year where students made video tutorials. It was very revealing for what they truly learned and what they didn't. #michED
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3) In math, 1 way I measure the Deep knowledge is to assess with creative projects. Can they "Play" with the material? In Geo, for the 3D figs assessment, Ss need to take pics of 3D obj around school and approx the SA and V. Estimation, imperfect shapes, add to fun! #miched
  • cody_charles1 Sep 5 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3: In a perfect world, we are assessing them on a proficiency scale through an iterative process, and spiraling our content throughout the year by also making connections throughout various topics. #miched
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3: I'm my precious district, Genius Hour was a treasured time into my art and science classrooms. Ss really accumulated deep knowledge from driving their own learning in a safe and supported environment. #michED
  • lsrodgerspe Sep 5 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3: When students become not just problem solvers, but problem finders. #miched
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3: Developing assessments that require application, or assess those activities that demonstrate application versus multiple choice. Continuing to spiral priority standards and skills throughout courses and years. #MichED
  • cj_walker03 Sep 5 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3) I definitely think that being able to teach others shows a high understanding of a topic. I often feel when I teach something I gain a better knowledge of that subject...especially when students have a ton of questions. #miched
  • jrommel Sep 5 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3 - intentionally having students share learning across curricula and having those teachers reflect and assess together is powerful #miched
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Q4) Ted highlights the Gone Boarding program (see https://t.co/ku06aauyUL) from Grand Rapids in the book. What other innovative programs are you aware of in Michigan that are showing us what school could be by reaching students in dramatic ways? #michED
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  • Dale_Chu Sep 5 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Totally agree, Chris. #michED
    In reply to @cj_walker03
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    By the way, I'd love it if answers to Q4 can help us find nearby districts to visit! #michED
  • PGrostic Sep 5 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3: Ss need meaningful work that THEY care about but they also need surface level knowledge #MichED
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:22 PM EDT
      Q3) How can we be sure our students learned something at the deep level described in the PEAK Learning definition? (Deep, retained Knowledge: Students develop real mastery of the topics they study. They can apply it, ask thoughtful questions about it, and teach others.) #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4: I love what @mcculloughmg is doing having students solve problems for local businesses https://t.co/PCTfp3g7Qo #miched
  • PGrostic Sep 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4: @We_Are_GR has a Museum School AND a Zoo School! #MichED
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:29 PM EDT
      Q4) Ted highlights the Gone Boarding program (see https://t.co/ku06aauyUL) from Grand Rapids in the book. What other innovative programs are you aware of in Michigan that are showing us what school could be by reaching students in dramatic ways? #michED
  • inspirecitizen1 Sep 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A2: #miched have a look at Futures Academy at International School Beijing. Also we’re now working on #P21 and #globalgoals in Jakarta and Seoul. If you mesh, #Sdg targets and #pbl the sky is the limit
    In reply to @PGrostic
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4) We visited @costrand16 in Grand Blanc (part of our ISD). She used a PBL/Genius Hour approach to her 4th grade. It was amazing! I felt like I was seeing something like in @MLTSfilm. Our group was so inspired! #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4) I agree the Museum School is a great model of innovation in Michigan. Also @innovationhigh is a wall to wall PBL school. #miched
    In reply to @PGrostic, @We_Are_GR, @innovationhigh
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: There's a brand new charter school in Flint opening next year by the Flint Cultural Center. All learning will be tied to the efforts of various cultural, scientific, and arts organizations in the community. https://t.co/vLWy5wnIkq #michED
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    We have a PBL cohort working with @cbdconsulting . It is a work in progress, but they are developing some great units! #mylsps #miched
    In reply to @mpetty39, @costrand16, @MLTSfilm, @cbdconsulting
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    The best PD is getting out and seeing the good things down the hall or down the road. #michED
  • inspirecitizen1 Sep 5 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A3 Team, I have to get into work but reach out on any Qs regarding our PBL SDG work at https://t.co/KnLrKZDdhM. A lot to share w great results and evidence. You guys are awesome. Keep up the innovative thinking. Your students will thank you by being amazing #miched
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    We need to celebrate these great things going on around the state! #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    And of course our great conferences like @macul and @michGoogle help us do that too. #michED
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A4: this yr I am piloting a year long art partnership program with our local school, the Torrant Center,for developmentally disabled students. I'm taking a group of 30ish 5ths to essentially be art Ts for their partner. Hand & HeARTs is going to be a great opportunity! #michED
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Last year, prior to 1:1 roll out, we had our entire instructional staff visit "research and design" pilot classess. At all grade levels. It was powerful. And a significant commitment in time and expense. Well worth it. #mylsps #MichED
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    It's great seeing so many examples! Can't wait to go through the list a little later. #michED
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Someone once observed that we don't get better by dwelling on our faults, but by figuring out what we do well and do more of it. So true when it comes to schools and classrooms, and there are remarkable things all across any community. #miched
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Not only am I distracted by the Supreme Court nomination hearing, #suptchat keeps popping up in my stream! We need a #miched and #suptchat combo!
  • jwilcox459 Sep 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4- I came across an article about various successful artists who have attended Interlochen Fine Arts School. were they more motivated prior to or after they attended? Disciplined? #miched
  • cody_charles1 Sep 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4: May not be an 'initiative' but technology is something that we all need to exploit. It shrinks our world, connects us with others, and opens the door to new opportunities. Build our PLN's, let students explore, and provide opportunities that would not be available w/o #miched
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I'd love to road trip it around the state and see these things in action!! First ever #MichED field trip!
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Q6) Let's start moving toward practical steps. Which traditional aspects of school pose the biggest obstacles when you take an innovative approach? For example, grading, scheduling, teacher evaluations, etc. If you’ve had success, what advice can you give? #michED #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    I think you can to a point. I wonder how long we want retention for? I can't remember stuff very long if I don't keep using it. If it is relevant, kids will remember it. Too much of the curriculum really isn't very important. #miched
    In reply to @MarkTSchwarz, @dintersmith
  • PGrostic Sep 5 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A6: High-Stakes Testing Culture!!! #MichEd
    • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      Q6) Let's start moving toward practical steps. Which traditional aspects of school pose the biggest obstacles when you take an innovative approach? For example, grading, scheduling, teacher evaluations, etc. If you’ve had success, what advice can you give? #michED #michED
  • jrommel Sep 5 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    I would say scheduling is the biggest challenge to change in the secondary setting. Sadly don’t have lots of examples of overcoming this structure to share #michED
    In reply to @mpetty39, @michEDchat
  • MrAustinA2 Sep 5 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I'm worried about teachers' gaps in assessment literacy + how they stymie even the best efforts to close achievement gaps for students. Teachers need a rich understanding of formative assessment + a process for providing the timely, meaningful feedback students require. #MichED
    In reply to @RachelleinMI
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A6) I find grading to be a big obstacle. I do projects with teachers that really hit some PEAK principles, then they struggle with how to get it in the grade book. #michED
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Where talking "What Schools Could be" for our kick off chat, and excited that @dintersmith joined the conversation with us! https://t.co/wsKCFmzZiC #suptchat #MichED
    In reply to @mikelubelfeld, @npolyak, @dintersmith
  • conrad_chris Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6) Fear of change feels like the biggest obstacle. When teaching Ts with A4A this came up. I asked Ts to think of a unit that sucks; everyone hates it; glad it's over. I asked if it was the Ss fault? Don't fix everything. Take risks with this unit. #miched
  • cody_charles1 Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6: The system..? 8 periods, 150+ S's, 45 minutes/day, need to give a 'grade' and teaching standards that may or may not be aligned to a standardized test. We need to assess our true 'why?' to what we do. And that goes for the entire ed system. What do we really want? #miched
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6: funding, funding and funding seem to be my biggest hurdles....a hazard of teaching with mainly consumables and having over 800 Ss #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I was telling our teachers better FA is probably the simplest step we could take to make a huge difference in our district. #michED
    In reply to @MrAustinA2, @RachelleinMI
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6: state tests, punitive measures against schools, teacher evals, and flavor of the month, district mandated curriculum and initiatives. #miched
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I think grading against standards, with rubrics, would make this more doable. Considerable work to develop. #MichEd
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I agree with Joe. Scheduling and grades at the Secondary level are the two biggest obstacles. #michED
    In reply to @jrommel, @mpetty39, @michEDchat
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Has anyone had much success going gradeless or integrating classes at secondary? #michED
    In reply to @techsavvyed, @jrommel, @michEDchat
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Yeah, it's a HUGE shift to move instruction so far that it doesn't fit into neat scoring categories anymore. Almost have to redevelop assessment along with the instruction. #michED
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • cj_walker03 Sep 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A6: Feeling like there is never enough time to teach all the standards by the end of the school year. #miched
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Agreed. So implement PLCs and do the hard work on assessment development and evaluation. It isn't easy. But it is necessary. #MichED
    In reply to @MrAustinA2
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Yes. One thing that gets them, though, is collaborative work. It's so hard to grade individual students accurately sometimes. It can discourage some or benefit others unfairly. #michED
    In reply to @RachelleinMI
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Have you seen Ted's @MLTSfilm? That idea played a big part. Basically, if most forget it anyway, is it worth trying to cover the standards? Interesting question. #michED
    In reply to @cj_walker03, @MLTSfilm
  • jrommel Sep 5 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Several CTE classes providing multiple credit options for one class, but traditional HS core subjects not so much #michED
    In reply to @mpetty39, @techsavvyed, @michEDchat
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I have taught integrated PBL classes at 3 different schools. It can be done! #miched
    In reply to @mpetty39, @techsavvyed, @jrommel, @michEDchat
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    That's good to know! #michED
    In reply to @mikekaechele, @techsavvyed, @jrommel, @michEDchat
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Q7) When it comes to innovation, some say we have to jump in with both feet and others talk about taking small steps. Which have you seen to be most effective? What encouragement do you have for those of us who want to see transformation this year? #michED
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Just curious re attitudes in your schools about CTE. Respected? Looked down on? I think it's a big opportunity in school if all kids have some CTE in their experience. #miched
    • jrommel Sep 5 @ 8:49 PM EDT
      Several CTE classes providing multiple credit options for one class, but traditional HS core subjects not so much #michED
      In reply to @mpetty39, @techsavvyed, @michEDchat
  • MrAustinA2 Sep 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A4. We think our @Skyline_WC is innovative! We're a peer-to-peer writing center focusing on closing achievement gaps in our school, working for educational equity in our community with @umichSweetland + @EMU_C2W + raising student voice with award-winning publications. #MichED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I think it's a great opportunity! It's something we need to work toward in our district. #michED
    In reply to @dintersmith
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Pick the most important ones and let some slide :) Better to go deep than wide. #miched
    In reply to @cj_walker03
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I am a believer in oral assessment. If learning is in question, have a conversation with individual students. #michED
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: Taking small steps to change Education is fine if you're working towards a bigger end goal, not just small steps for the sake of taking them. #michED
  • cj_walker03 Sep 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: I say don't be afraid to jump in, but know yourself as a teacher. Understand what you are comfortable with so that you can make the best decision for your class. #miched
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    I use colors. Everyone use a different colored marker or different colored font in GDocs and label with your name. #miched
    In reply to @mpetty39, @RachelleinMI
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Yes, I can see the wisdom in this. Sometimes the reason people want to move slowly eventually becomes the obstacle. #michED
    In reply to @techsavvyed
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A7) I'm leaning toward jumping in. I worked with a group once with a "small steps" approach and it ended up being too easy to abandon. As I've said, though, I'm not there yet. I am looking for answers on this one. #michED
  • RachelleinMI Sep 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Add to the obstacles, we aren't required to meet "seat time" , but we get reimbursed by "seat time". #miched
    In reply to @techsavvyed, @jrommel, @mpetty39, @michEDchat
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I'd love for this great group to check out our https://t.co/iLBLg3DgWS, which offers small steps leading to big change, with a suggested sequence/organization. #miched
  • mrterborg Sep 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6? A fully stocked and professionally staffed library in every school? #Miched
    In reply to @cody_charles1
  • Creekside_MS Sep 5 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Hey @Creekside_MS family & @zeelandschools community, want to help us out? Mrs. Mabin has some amazing activities planned to help build more positive relationships at Creekside. Please consider helping us! #crk1819 #miched
  • techsavvyed Sep 5 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    More often than not, change happens slowly for the sake of those around you and allows the system to change gradually without as much pressure. Just need a strong leader to keep things moving at the top. #michED
    In reply to @mpetty39
  • mrterborg Sep 5 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    How did you pilot this? Implement? Curious. #MichED
    In reply to @RachelleinMI, @mpetty39
  • jesscrandell Sep 5 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A7: in my personal experience, small steps toward a larger, meaningful goal works well....when done with fidelity and with support. #MichEd
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    I like the quote @dintersmith said in the book - Change happens slowly right up until it happens quickly. #michED
  • dintersmith Sep 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Also, take a look at this great video from Prince EA. It's gotten 4 million views on FB and YouTube in just two days, and at the end refers to the Innovation Playlist. https://t.co/Fj7IcR4flf #miched
  • jrommel Sep 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    More nuanced, I think SOME CTE classes are more respected than others. I do feel a change in attitudes towards these types of classes, but tough ‘sell’ to get parents to move to CTE and away from AP classes. Parent attitudes key. #miched
    In reply to @dintersmith
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    I wonder if it's some jumping in at the classroom level, but in the big picture it's small, intentional steps toward a goal. #michED
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A7) My advice is to present the innovative ideas to the class as a learning experience that, if it works, will benefit others (the school, community, wider audience, etc). This has always been an exciting way to start for us. #michED
  • mikekaechele Sep 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A7: Differentiate. Let teachers who are ready dive into deep end and let others go gradually. Encourage everyone to talk some steps and celebrate successes, large and small. #miched
  • MrAustinA2 Sep 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    This past year, I was on a team that developed single-point rubrics arranged around power standards for use in our 6-12 ELA classrooms. Our goals were to prioritize feedback, help teachers focus on standards when grading + to give students clear learning progressions. #MichED
    In reply to @RachelleinMI, @jesscrandell, @mpetty39
  • mpetty39 Sep 5 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Where did the time go!! This has been a great chat! Thanks so much to everyone who participated. I look forward to going back through it. Thanks @dintersmith for the conversations you've made happen!! #michED