#edchatma Archive
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Tuesday May 24, 2016
and I welcome our Crew as we prepare to share Distributed Leadership with tonight!
Rik, Facilitator of Learning with a math focus, honored to have our Guests: join tonight!
Hi. Welcome everyone to w/guests and from . Please introduce yourselves.
Hey, that would be a great idea! We've got to plan a cross-over between and ! Thanks for the idea :)
Is Katie really with us in tonight?
When will Twitter have audio? I need a little Eye of a Tiger right now.
Scott Martin, Learner first. Principal second.
Thrilled to be part of tonight!
Scott, so thrilled to see you in this evening!
Hi all! I'm Katie Novak from Groton-Dunstable. Lover of all things UDL and collaborative. Psyched to talk shop!
Honored to have you join our Crew!
Lisa Caponigro. Fifth grade math teacher in Revere. Excited to be chatting tonight!
I'm Maria Fenwick, former BOS tchr, now independent consultant supporting teacher leadership initiatives...and creating new ones.
Always glad to learn with you Rik.
Danielle Branson, - Looking forward to our chat!
Katie, thank you for bringing UDL to life for me! https://t.co/2Mp0E7sVvJ
Hi all! I'm Katie Novak from Groton-Dunstable. Lover of all things UDL and collaborative. Psyched to talk shop!
Shirley here peeking into tonight! Great questions on distributed leadership and feedback. Hi everyone!
Hi friends! Excited to chat tonight - love the Qs!
Steve DeBoer- Westboro High checking in on for the 1st time in a long time.
Maria, really pleased to have you in tonight!
Hi I teach US history at Weymouth HS, current hobby = learning to rap lyrics
Here for ill be in and out over the hour.. Multitasking for the win.
Like this tweet if you're new to so we can welcome you to our Crew!
Alice 8th grade math teacher from Nantucket checking in for
Lena Marie, we love it when you're here!
Steve, welcome to tonight on Distributed Leadership with
We have 6 Qns tonight as Q1, Q2, Q3. Please respond with A1, A2, A3 and include the hashtag so all can enjoy the sharing.
Agreed! A great advocate for teacher leaders! https://t.co/mujmafXwAd
Maria, really pleased to have you in tonight!
Kat Johnston, former teacher and honored partner with MA teachers and districts in my role at DESE.
Kindly welcome Lisa {} to our Crew tonight!
thanks. Happy to be back and to learn a thing or 2.
Love to see everyone here as the PLN grows larger Q1 coming up in a few minutes
Let's all give Maria {} a for joining our Crew!!
Hi! I have driven by your school. Do any other -ers like to see schools when visiting other places or am I weird?
Hi all, Techla Connolly ELA/ Dance teacher from Revere
Kimberly, ready for a party?
Alice, honored to have you join our Party!
glad to drop in tonight folks!
Not weird, hobby of mine as well. Always nice to see what happens elsewhere
Techla Connolly, MS ELA/Dance teacher from Revere
Thank you! Great topic, happy to be here
Hi Great to see you. Been too long
George, we're pleased to learn with you this evening!
it is my secret tourism fixation and arguably the greatest part of working !
Thank you! excited to learn from other MA educators tonight
Q1 - Describe the feedback that you find most helpful. Who offers it and how does their role affect its value?
A1 - Immediate feedback is most helpful when possible. When we shorten the time between doing and getting feedback, it's best.
Are districts really investing in developing teacher leaders? Very interesting https://t.co/rZtjKDar4B
I'm Maria Fenwick, former BOS tchr, now independent consultant supporting teacher leadership initiatives...and creating new ones.
Alice, tonight could be EPIC with with us in tonight! https://t.co/38NmFJsAq2
Thank you! excited to learn from other MA educators tonight
Good to see some familiar names from
A1 - Constructive and specific feedback is vital for growth and for connecting to what we recently accomplished.
Hi David! How do you like school committee?
A1) Immediate feedback that is specific and explicit for the learner. Also, actionable.
Feedback that’s specific, honest and based on defined needs, strategies is my favorite. I honestly wish there was more of it.
A1 - Students often get feedback during the learning, though educators often wait until the end of year when it's less helpful.
A1. Feedback tied to my goals or in areas I have identified as areas of growth
Sorry about the typo, Techla! Fixing it here.
A1 Some of my best feedback has come from my co-teacher in the middle of a lesson
A1 Feedback that is actionable and timely. Love horiz and vert feedback. Creating a culture of feedback is key!
A1 Informative, constructive, honest feedback. Specific to help me improve and grow as a T
It’s a whole other chapter. Still learning my way around. Happy I’m there. Feeling useful Hope your year’s been good
A1 It should be specific and clear and provided in a timely manner.
A1 always appreciate feedback (pos and constructive) from colleagues who know the work and can bring new ideas!
A1: I want mastery-oriented feedback. Don't tell me what I do well for I will keep doing it. Tell me how to be better.
Alice has a Growth Mindset! https://t.co/BV8BUqGQiz
A1 Informative, constructive, honest feedback. Specific to help me improve and grow as a T
Agreed, matt. spent first 10 years with a co-teacher. So good for my growth as professional
A1. Student feedback is valuable. Often do anonymous surveys or listen to feedback. Also allows me to explain WHY I do things.
Q1 honest, quick feedback is best. Shows that the end game is improving teaching to improve learning
The sooner the better... https://t.co/nGb35pBiRw
A1 It should be specific and clear and provided in a timely manner.
A1) Best feedback I received was from a 360 feedback survey. Learned a ton about how to better lead/influence.
A1- Peer feedback is vital. Whether in planning or observation, quality insight from other motivated teachers adds value.
Huge! https://t.co/0z3DHcQLXD
A1 always appreciate feedback (pos and constructive) from colleagues who know the work and can bring new ideas!
Profound!! https://t.co/FDO0TcGF6d
A1: I want mastery-oriented feedback. Don't tell me what I do well for I will keep doing it. Tell me how to be better.
How great when one response connects with multiple chats! :)
This!!! We all can always find our next step with the help of the coaches around us, whoever they are https://t.co/7bMaoLrvk9
A1: I want mastery-oriented feedback. Don't tell me what I do well for I will keep doing it. Tell me how to be better.
Best feedback is from Ss--the users of my "product." Most especially when they are in college, but end of year survey so helpful
A1- feedback from anyone is useful. Ss feedback I've come to appreciate more. And realizing the importance of immediate feedback.
When culture of feedback exists there is a great deal of trust - that's what helps growth and improvement.
A1 Pt2 Best feedback comes fr close colleagues Working with a variety of admin has been challenging, still building relationships
Mutual Feedback and Growth... https://t.co/0fm6eAsVWQ
A1. Student feedback is valuable. Often do anonymous surveys or listen to feedback. Also allows me to explain WHY I do things.
Some of my best feedback has come from my Ss. Love adjusting future lessons based on their feedback!
Yes. Too many are unwilling to go there, though. This ought to be a focus of all schools’ culture, imo.
awesome growth experience, mine was too!
Stunning! https://t.co/UJw59wWFX2
A1- Peer feedback is vital. Whether in planning or observation, quality insight from other motivated teachers adds value.
Issue=leaders unwillingness/anxiety about giving adults constructive feedback. https://t.co/0dSRGkii1O
A1 - Students often get feedback during the learning, though educators often wait until the end of year when it's less helpful.
Agreed! Feedback needs to be specific to fuel growth - hopefully more classrooms start to grow this culture
A1 real-time feedback is most helpful to me - tracking engagement, agreement, confusion. Are they "getting" it?
A1 FB needs to be specific and individualized
This is great (which you don't want to hear). Trusting relationships a necessary component.
https://t.co/TlJ5j7F8xd
When culture of feedback exists there is a great deal of trust - that's what helps growth and improvement.
I like the reference to 'mastery-oriented' feedback. Always room to grow. https://t.co/1JdKPLnccN
A1: I want mastery-oriented feedback. Don't tell me what I do well for I will keep doing it. Tell me how to be better.
Am I getting it?" https://t.co/vDzzf8BrxA
A1 real-time feedback is most helpful to me - tracking engagement, agreement, confusion. Are they "getting" it?
Absolutely! I've found that being intentional about creating a "feedback culture" helps reduce anxiety and built trust.
Some places make EOY s surveys part of what they do? I agree that it’d b valuable 2 have everywhere. https://t.co/4cIBEVwmoA
Best feedback is from Ss--the users of my "product." Most especially when they are in college, but end of year survey so helpful
A1- feedback that is directly connected to increasing student engagement, achievement, and of course growth!
When we work as teams, this becomes a natural, focused process.
Certainly an area I need to improve upon! Agreed it can be very useful https://t.co/bhsPIzXWHe
Some of my best feedback has come from my Ss. Love adjusting future lessons based on their feedback!
This is it!! https://t.co/xaWZY8e7xW
A1 Pt2 Best feedback comes fr close colleagues Working with a variety of admin has been challenging, still building relationships
Q2 - What are (your) non-negotiable components of High Quality feedback?
Tchrs who get peer feedback love it. How would you help more districts embrace it? Get over the hesitancy? https://t.co/DfM1OmTDR7
Yes. Too many are unwilling to go there, though. This ought to be a focus of all schools’ culture, imo.
Honest and Transparent... https://t.co/Mynx0KX3y3
Some of my best feedback has come from my Ss. Love adjusting future lessons based on their feedback!
Yes, timely is key! Waiting too long to give feedback makes it seem irrelevant or unimportant.
I 💖when my students challenge each other, It let's me know that there is a misunderstanding! Priceless https://t.co/mJ76zPGCe1
Q1 - Describe the feedback that you find most helpful. Who offers it and how does their role affect its value?
Hey All—Henry HS principal in Bedford. Popping in for a few
It takes time and common purpose, communication to build trust.
Sorry I am late to the party . Got caught up in some housecleaning.
A2 - Non-negotiable components of high quality feedback are immediate, specific, useful and able to implement.
Growth Oriented. Mastery is intimidating and thrown around as a buzz word too often. https://t.co/xJa4O18Z7Q
I like the reference to 'mastery-oriented' feedback. Always room to grow. https://t.co/1JdKPLnccN
A1: I want mastery-oriented feedback. Don't tell me what I do well for I will keep doing it. Tell me how to be better.
Start with admins admitting flaws and talking about their own growth. Find Ts willing to model value of FB loops.
Students are often our best feedback providers. Learning? Engaged? Motivated? Behaved?
I don't think you miss much, !
Ha! love praise - just find it does little for improvement. We only get one journey- have to make it awesome.
A2 The feedback has to be authentic, knowledgeable--not artificial to be useful.
Hello , hope you don't mind me popping in and out a bit.
A2 - A component of high quality feedback is when it's communicated in such a way that it's specific and understandable.
Missing two fabulous chats tonight. & At an event & also spotty WiFi 😞 Will check archive tomorrow
Humility is a huge key to a successful leader. https://t.co/Y9TmVkKS3G
Start with admins admitting flaws and talking about their own growth. Find Ts willing to model value of FB loops.
A2. Clear next steps for improvement are critical. Ideally, I want strong models/examples.
Yes. And it needs to be tied to the work, not the person. This is about professional growth, not friendships.
Thats the kind of teacher I want for my kids.
Hi there! Glad to 'see' you tonight!
A2 - High Quality Feedback needs to have no hidden agenda or unspoken malice.
Students do not benefit waiting weeks for Feedback so why do teacher have to wait until EOY? https://t.co/tlK3PI8tqV
Yes, timely is key! Waiting too long to give feedback makes it seem irrelevant or unimportant.
Q2 non-negotiable = frequency. Please don't judge me on 10 min snapshot of the whole day
A2 need feedback connected to suggestions, examples, resources...not just a drive by
A2- honesty. Not to be hurtful but to be helpful to Ss. And I expect others to be honest w/me.
A2 Feedback that is useful and specific to encourage growth.
Henry, honored to have you join tonight on Distributed Leadership!
Couldn't agree more! https://t.co/vwfp3Iwuhk
A2. Clear next steps for improvement are critical. Ideally, I want strong models/examples.
A2 Feedback should have a purpose, a rationale, and be tied to making education better. I tune out "off topic" feedback
A2 Non- N is respect for the person receiving the FB
to have a relationship that moves past trivial banter and focuses on real dialogue. Anything possible then https://t.co/8h1czeVWcM
Q2 - What are (your) non-negotiable components of High Quality feedback?
Tracy, pleased to have you join the PARTY!
A1 Our Distributed LeadershipPLN has been wrestling w. bldg a culture that supports feedback. More here: https://t.co/vKTAb6INc3
Wonder if we need 2 stop calling it FB and begin talking abt "growth suggestions”? https://t.co/Qd3GVKDPXB
Couldn't agree more! https://t.co/vwfp3Iwuhk
A2. Clear next steps for improvement are critical. Ideally, I want strong models/examples.
A2 Honest with clear ways to improve. Provide models, always acknowledge the good, make recommendations that are reachable
Welcome, Linda! Nice to have you with us
A2 Feedback in the form of suggestions needs to come w/ supports & coaching, imho.
A2- Honest and focused on Ss! Also complacency scares me. Help me & my students to grow and learn. Kind but truthful.
A2 has to be evidence based - feedback that is just an opinion doesn't move me at all
(nodding head). Too often the "off topic" stuff gets in the way.
Shout out to all the districts in the DL PLN for your amazing work!!
It all has to start with trust. Student - teacher - admins - central - state. Up and down the chain.
Except, not getting positive feedback may make me think a practice is meh --and I might not keep doing it https://t.co/C4aqiUb709
A1: I want mastery-oriented feedback. Don't tell me what I do well for I will keep doing it. Tell me how to be better.
Couldn't agree more - good feedback ties in different components
A2: Needs to also be focused and "chunked" . We can make big gains one small step at a time
Yes Ss relationships are always a focus, T & Admin relationships are just as important is essential https://t.co/vPb1xfKnT4
to have a relationship that moves past trivial banter and focuses on real dialogue. Anything possible then https://t.co/8h1czeVWcM
Q2 - What are (your) non-negotiable components of High Quality feedback?
Sorry for the late entry.
Happy to be here tonight at Marty Middle Schl principal in Middleboro.
Specific with examples please, right Matt? https://t.co/KdcUsnsyVJ
A2 has to be evidence based - feedback that is just an opinion doesn't move me at all
so true. A focus from the start is always helpful.
What kind of supports/coaching are you referring to, Tracy?
A1 When admin came to my room and post-conferenced w no feedback, I always felt like s/he hadn't been paying attn during the obs
Love to see you with us, Marty!!
Again,has more to do w/team than feedback & eval--when team works towards a common goal lots of learning happens.
True. I've had evaluators say they weren't going to point out weaknesses. What?! How can I improve?
A2: Non-negotiable for feedback is always as clear as possible and focus on growth
Talking about what type of feedback is useful now on ! https://t.co/bX8NLhGKK3
A2- Honest and focused on Ss! Also complacency scares me. Help me & my students to grow and learn. Kind but truthful.
I totally agree! https://t.co/GXFlvdsCBo
It all has to start with trust. Student - teacher - admins - central - state. Up and down the chain.
Q3 - Why is it important to see High Quality feedback as a piece of a school’s overall culture?
Coach, great to see you in tonight!
Fully agree. Love to focus on helping Ts make teams highly functioning. , for sure.
Marty, now the PARTY can start...
https://t.co/Z2UMe6Y9vy should include time for observer/observee to reconnect & reflect. continuous dialogue. Build relationships
A3 - Educators benefit from High Quality feedback just as our Learners need feedback to be useful and specific.
https://t.co/pf6M41YuTS
Love the qualities of feedback. I'd add in honest. Can't say things are good when they aren't. But also should be kind.
Agreed! I worry that sometimes they're just checking it off the "to do" list
https://t.co/7s5FvdIJvw
A1 When admin came to my room and post-conferenced w no feedback, I always felt like s/he hadn't been paying attn during the obs
A3 I think it goes back to showing Ts that you care about them & their practice to truly want to help them w honest feedback.
A2 actionable and evidence based.
Depends on needs: modeling or observing others, article or book to read, pd/ class suggestion...
A3 working towards transparency, common goals, a shared vision -- continuously improving together
would love to see you at MA July 11th at Millbury Jr/Sr High School
Robb joking late. A3 a because it shows the sch had a learning culture. https://t.co/e73jYPjJFv
Q3 - Why is it important to see High Quality feedback as a piece of a school’s overall culture?
Transparency is vital... https://t.co/GDqMz29T5k
A3 working towards transparency, common goals, a shared vision -- continuously improving together
A3- for growth as an individual teacher & as a school. In the end, all parties should benefit if feedback is good.
A3: When I taught, there was a strong "culture of nice" at my skl. Not ok to point out mistakes. Didn't serve Ts or Ss well.
Ah, I get it now. Resources for more learning/growth
Q3. Sets the model for our students that we are all learners. Growth mindset is key. This is all in service of our students.
When everyone is invested in targeted Ss learning, this becomes a much more natural process.
Why is transparency piece always such an issue. Let it all hang out, folks. We’re in it together, and it’s ugly :)
A3 Emphasizing feedback shows commitment to growth, and learning, and craft...not just checking a box and sending DESE some data
Would love this... https://t.co/vrapKXunyR
A3 I think it goes back to showing Ts that you care about them & their practice to truly want to help them w honest feedback.
Q3 so that the job of top achieving staff is valued and viewed as something for all to strive for. Model! https://t.co/CGqcImfyka
Q3 - Why is it important to see High Quality feedback as a piece of a school’s overall culture?
We need to promote growth mindset within teachers as well. Constructive FB should be opportunity to grow, not sulk.
A3- a school where FB is infused into the culture promotes collaboration & growth for all. start at the top & trickles 2 Tts & Ss
Lolz "culture of nice" 😂😱
A3 it is half of the learning equation. We must show ss that it is what we do as well as who we are
Laughing.... https://t.co/7KWobeSHRW
We need to promote growth mindset within teachers as well. Constructive FB should be opportunity to grow, not sulk.
A3 Focus on quality feedback promotes growth in students AND adults
A3. Sets the model for Ss that we are all learners. Growth mindset is key. Robust, consistent feedback is in service of our Ss.
yes! Often times feedback comes w/out suggestions for how to improve or grow.
Robb joining late. A3 a because it shows the sch had a learning culture. https://t.co/e73jYPjJFv
Q3 - Why is it important to see High Quality feedback as a piece of a school’s overall culture?
I used to teach a great poem titled “The Tyranny of Nice.” We die with good intentions.
A3: Culture of feedback is critical for combatting culture of nice. Shared responsibility for shared improvement is feedbacktopia
A3 To show a joint effort and willingness to improve, not an us vs. them.
love this train of thought - feedback fitting in naturally as a part of culture
Rob, pleased to have you with the Crew tonight!
Feedback has to be "real" not "nice". https://t.co/cfZujN5O7z
A3: When I taught, there was a strong "culture of nice" at my skl. Not ok to point out mistakes. Didn't serve Ts or Ss well.
Beautifully said.
https://t.co/Q9wwjw399Y
A3 it is half of the learning equation. We must show ss that it is what we do as well as who we are
A3: Ts are always "in the game" with limited practice time. FB is crucial to improve performance mid-game
A3. HQ feedback promotes collaboration,reflection&improvement. Need a culture of trust and growth for Ts and Ss to benefit from it
Yes--about growth and learning, not compliance! https://t.co/Cq8TIxlCCc
A3 Emphasizing feedback shows commitment to growth, and learning, and craft...not just checking a box and sending DESE some data
Our Learners are watching us grow... https://t.co/1GPzHD9IpP
A3. Sets the model for Ss that we are all learners. Growth mindset is key. Robust, consistent feedback is in service of our Ss.
A3: Hard to focus on if the culture lacks open feedback
We need to work on Critique v critical. It can’t be personal
A3 because high quality feedback results in growth for the Ts and Ss and the school and district as a result
A3 Feedback is central for learning, and a critical element of assessment, which takes us back to being central for learning.
HI Alice, This is where vision, goal setting, honest conversation about who we are, where we are going as team comes in.
as admin I take pride in providing as much feedback as possible. Leads to great convos/relationships
We all thank you Tim! https://t.co/glszCtpbC9
as admin I take pride in providing as much feedback as possible. Leads to great convos/relationships
Yet w/distributive leadership it's less leader/teacher and more team.
Would love to see you and others from DESE there. Would be great to connect, learn and share https://t.co/GclqmzW585
Sad to say but it is a checklist activity. Research does not support that standard observations improve performance
Absolutely! However, often easier said than done.
Tim, How would you compare professional conversation vs. feedback?
Q4 - Why is peer feedback valuable for both observers and those being observed?
A3- if we are providing feedback to our Ss to promote growth, we must all be willing and open to receiving FB as well.
nice connection to assessment literacy, Jim, an often overlooked form of feedback
A4 - Peer feedback can be invaluable since it's coming from someone who 'walks in your shoes'.
e.g. started a Voxer book club at my school, only few Ts joined, no admin gave f/b, so thinking of not doing again
Clear next steps is so important! Otherwise so much value is lost
When we create FB loops with colleagues, we become better as seeing the needs written into eval goals and how Ss are affected.
Never introed myself. Jim from Minnesota. Was lurking while wait for my chat to start and I liked what I heard - jumped in.
A4 We have to be careful we're not talking about teaching as "performance art" but coaching/service instead.
A4 I learn so much being in clssrms when Ts get a chance 2 do it they 2 can see gr8 ideas in action. PineappleCharts
Feedback loops pop our personal bubbles.
I think lesson specific feedback is part of professional convo.
Best coaching for performance is a rocking instructional coach! That's where real change occurs that benefits all
A3 True, but depends how the culture sees it--when cultures have more hierarchy than team, FB becomes less valuable.
A4 - Peer feedback can be very beneficial as ours peers often know our strengths and improvement areas.
A4. Peer feedback allows role-alike convos, deep content feedback, and opps for calibration. What can we learn/share?
A4 at me and hs level peers are more equipped to give content specific feedback
It is often missed yet formative use requires feedback in order to be formative.
I prefer our collaborative learning design, meetings, to walk throughs--richer.
You have SMOKIN' tonight!
Love this idea! https://t.co/heLtDnyH17
Best coaching for performance is a rocking instructional coach! That's where real change occurs that benefits all
HUGE!! https://t.co/jZ1kGy1hhs
A3- if we are providing feedback to our Ss to promote growth, we must all be willing and open to receiving FB as well.
Yes. Formative assessments bring Ss into our fb loop. https://t.co/Y5wEIzjhE3
It is often missed yet formative use requires feedback in order to be formative.
Ouch! https://t.co/hXErxy2ev4
e.g. started a Voxer book club at my school, only few Ts joined, no admin gave f/b, so thinking of not doing again
A4 Peers in same role can have different lens when observing. Deeper level of feedback as they have understanding of the role.
Jennifer are you a coach or T?
A4 constructive FB usually easier to hear from peer rather than "boss"
A4 when peer feedback is noon evaluative so it's more about growth
Jim, you are well-known in circles!
that is where quality educational discussion comes in.
A4 Historically we've had little opportunity to truly observe colleagues.We never really know them until we get in there ourselves!
Walk throughs are a good start for many school’s culture. Certainly not the top of evolutionary chain, tho.
there's a lot of talent out there in ! Thrilled to be in on the convo
More Admins in classrooms, please!! https://t.co/Ovm20rGSkT
A4 I learn so much being in clssrms when Ts get a chance 2 do it they 2 can see gr8 ideas in action. PineappleCharts
A4 Often results in more collaboration after the observation/feedback takes place. Beneficial for both.
A4 it is on a different level than feedback from ts, and helping others improve allows ss to use their learning in a powerful way
Content feedback is so beneficial! Welcome ! Thanks for representing Wakefield and joining ! https://t.co/fGSDgbLPI9
A4 at me and hs level peers are more equipped to give content specific feedback
I was just think same thing, matt. A lot of brilliance flying by my feed 2nite.
A4: Peer feedback is lower stakes and can create less anxiety.
A4: Peer observation was my favorite way to fill my toolbox. Like these norms from Berkshire Hills: https://t.co/nLGoEIyF6z .
A4- Promotes collaboration, relationships & shared growth. Everyone benefits. Calibration- does FB given 2 Ts match goals?.
Peer f/b is awesome if peers are on "same page"--a T-centered educator is not going to give effective f/b to S-centered educator
Couldn't agree more! Great group we've got tonight on !
HS admin. My best conversations about performance occur when coaching teachers, not post-conferencing w/them
On our team our work is very fluid between classrooms, doors open, people walking in and out,
it's also not always about "verbal feedback" per se - sometimes a word/gesture or example goes a long way!
Matt, thrilled and honored to have you and with us! https://t.co/4ggCwIcLya
there's a lot of talent out there in ! Thrilled to be in on the convo
A4 also promotes sharing of ideas. Get out of your 4 classroom walls!
Yes,please!When Admin makes regular rounds & appearances, becomes part of culture & not huge deal when P or AP walks in
A4. My peers know my "style". Can provide FB based on how my class runs day to day. Offer small changes that make big differences.
Can FB always center around “were Ss engaged in & succeeding w/ class objective”? Shouldn’t be about fav strategies
A4 Peer FB is usually non evaluative, more likely to be immediate, positive with great tips for improvement
You’re ahead of the curve on this, way ahead.
this is an interesting challenge - variations in orientation between peers. Curious if others have thoughts
A4 Well put. And the practice can emphasize the team's shared values and goals.
https://t.co/dFZSaUX1rn
A4 Peers in same role can have different lens when observing. Deeper level of feedback as they have understanding of the role.
I would add timely to those nonnegotiables https://t.co/uWSTQKckoC
A2 - Non-negotiable components of high quality feedback are immediate, specific, useful and able to implement.
Maybe not, but there is still an exchange of ideas that happens.
Wow! What a think tank! Some amazing ideas coming from some invested educators! Glad to take part.
Q5 - How can useful feedback make evaluation more meaningful and create more of a Growth Mindset?
That's a positive culture. That happens w/admin in my building, very comfortable.
A4Pt2 I learn so much obs colleagues. Peer obs are a focus in our district this yr with a lot of positive results & growth
Great point. Some Ts do get over anxious about receiving feedback. Might say a lot about school culture. https://t.co/UclPac0VwL
A4: Peer feedback is lower stakes and can create less anxiety.
A5 - When useful feedback is received, we can often close the gap between what we intended to do and what we did.
A4: Read the archive to this week's to start building teacher capacity for inclusive classrooms!
A4: engagement is equal parts attention & commitment. Difficult to observe in 10 min Intervals - feedback must be ongoing.
We're thankful to have you with us! https://t.co/1WYqNMIQfY
Wow! What a think tank! Some amazing ideas coming from some invested educators! Glad to take part.
Hard to read fast enough tonight!
(How have 40 minutes already passed? Lots of great conversation and thinking points!)
Yes! encourages tchrs to think outside of the box, take risks and innovate to improve practice.
Good point re: peers & context, can push FB to next level!Revere has great collab structures & more coming https://t.co/M0vDYWcH1h
A4. My peers know my "style". Can provide FB based on how my class runs day to day. Offer small changes that make big differences.
A4 most valued by teachers
A5 - When feedback is useful and timely, educators may have the opportunity to improve or strengthen their Growth Mindset.
I agree that there can be very different perspectives --that's why conversation, shared work important.
I have loved having this opportunity this year and look forward to more. We've been asking for this for years!
I was just thinking the same thing. This feed is like a waterfall!
Profound!! https://t.co/ktygcfytXX
A4: engagement is equal parts attention & commitment. Difficult to observe in 10 min Intervals - feedback must be ongoing.
A3. A school can only improve if people are willing to grow. HQ feedback necessary for growth ergo important 4 schl culture
In their defense they don't understand SM or take anything on Twitter, Voxer seriously
Yes. It's imp that we provide Ts what we require of them for Ss: Fair, Accurate, Specific, Timely
Have to step away for tonight. Thanks for including me & for such great ideas. Always a pleasure.
Fingers almost numb... https://t.co/wMrosJ9Eax
(How have 40 minutes already passed? Lots of great conversation and thinking points!)
Peer FB not only ignite curiosity and engagement; it offers a new way to support student learning. https://t.co/ibPZlMn4mT
Q4 - Why is peer feedback valuable for both observers and those being observed?
Our PLCs help to deepen the conversation/share.
A5 we build a culture of learning, Ts and Ss and Ps alike. Education is always evolving. Always new ways to improve
A5 - Whether the feedback is from an Admin, Peer or Coach, specific feedback can empower educators to immediately more quickly.
Lurking from Maine. A4: Because peer eval is safer and it feels good to NOT feel like you're on trial (for once).
Nodding in agreement... https://t.co/hIcwhNTLAd
Yes. It's imp that we provide Ts what we require of them for Ss: Fair, Accurate, Specific, Timely
IMO more complex than just school culture. But certainly school culture can be a factor.
Yes! Hoping we can improve and grow our model across the district https://t.co/OChLvEupkt
I have loved having this opportunity this year and look forward to more. We've been asking for this for years!
agreed - it's gotta be embedded in culture to really be meaningful
A5 useful feedback allows ts and ss to see their blindspots, areas we didn't know needed improvement. It shows us what to grow
Hi Corinne. Big fan of . Taught in Gorham for 10. Glad to have you.
That's what I like--the learning team approach.
Thank you! https://t.co/Lvwq0Bds0U
In their defense they don't understand SM or take anything on Twitter, Voxer seriously
I have witnessed it personally. These convos build Ts confidence and improve instruction for Ss.
Education needs to EVOLVE and so do we... https://t.co/NlN0I2FcQ5
A5 we build a culture of learning, Ts and Ss and Ps alike. Education is always evolving. Always new ways to improve
A5 Don't stop with feedback. Follow up to make it a coaching situation. Revisit the issue or strategy to view progress made
A5. Useful f/b can help make the eval system more about support & improvement as opposed to "checking the box"/compliance
A5 It then serves a purpose, it isn't a "gotcha" moment, Ts reassured it's ok to fail, builds
love this thinking - it takes a common language and shared vision to establish a HQ FB culture
A5- Critical friends are often my best allies in improving my practice & helping me try to close learning gaps.
Corinne, pleased to welcome you! https://t.co/vftsFeGbNj
Lurking from Maine. A4: Because peer eval is safer and it feels good to NOT feel like you're on trial (for once).
A5: When I am assessed by someone in my "lane" it feels more like collaboration than evaluation. It's an opportunity not a test.
True, but some confuse engaged with compliance, and/or some Ss put on a good show!
New resource 2 support feedback--evaluative or not--checkout lessons from districts on distrib leadership https://t.co/eezWtEYdw3
This is all of it at one. Support each other. Keep getting better. https://t.co/gaQV7oTSZD
A5. Useful f/b can help make the eval system more about support & improvement as opposed to "checking the box"/compliance
a5 Meaningful & useful feedback should help me craft future goals as well as prioritize needs.
Follow-up is HUGE!! https://t.co/wjXHXSPj0g
A5 Don't stop with feedback. Follow up to make it a coaching situation. Revisit the issue or strategy to view progress made
A5 it's easy to rest on your laurels. Quality feedback gives you anything to think about and leads to continual growth
As you know I really think the shared grade-level model is terrific
Pondering this still... https://t.co/eqdrCSrkjQ
love this thinking - it takes a common language and shared vision to establish a HQ FB culture
Well said! https://t.co/SlEybOeiWK
A5: When I am assessed by someone in my "lane" it feels more like collaboration than evaluation. It's an opportunity not a test.
Q6 - Would it be beneficial to offer feedback to someone who is offering you feedback? Explain why or why not.
Love it! https://t.co/TEB4rlGkab
A5: When I am assessed by someone in my "lane" it feels more like collaboration than evaluation. It's an opportunity not a test.
Agreed! It's about ongoing dialogue, not paperwork. Feedback should encourage Ts to take risks, reflect, repeat.
Structures like PLC, well orchestrated faculty meetings, targeted committee work supports this.
We had a team this year begin classroom walkthroughs w/peer--each reflection ended w 2 stars and a wish (better if...)
absolutely! Lead by example! As Robert Eaker states "people watch your actions, not your words"
A6 - I'd cherish the opportunity to give and receive feedback from peers as they know us and .
Maureen, YOU are Terrific! https://t.co/y5q9rQJxnV
As you know I really think the shared grade-level model is terrific
Also important to spend considerable time getting to know one another on the learning team.
Ss benefit by developing their ability 2 reflect on their assignments & confidence⬆️ as valid commentators https://t.co/CKz0rSgYKp
Q5 - How can useful feedback make evaluation more meaningful and create more of a Growth Mindset?
Awesome idea! We left a positive note when observing each other but this is even better https://t.co/Hnq6H55m28
We had a team this year begin classroom walkthroughs w/peer--each reflection ended w 2 stars and a wish (better if...)
That’s straight from the brain of , who’s the man.
A6 yes, but maybe not at the same time. It can be difficult to honestly accept feedback when thinking about what feedback to give.
You are too nice--sensitive to FB alone talk as we all bring such varied gifts, strengths to school communities.
A6- Yes! This can help level the playing field for those who are anxious about receiving FB & help create shared goals.
Support and improvement - yes!
A6 That could be tricky! If peer then could develop a collaboration. If supervisor....maybe not - it depends.
No one has it all--lots of gifts to share.
When we collaborate, we GROW! https://t.co/hI7pG2VUPs
You are too nice--sensitive to FB alone talk as we all bring such varied gifts, strengths to school communities.
Well said! And we need to be receptive listeners in order to receive such feedback w/out being offended.
yes - it's a relational profession, after all! skills always in play
Need to get ready for the chat in 10. With Ts like you no wonder MA schools are great Join us! https://t.co/ynhaeSyX70
A6: Absolutely!! But culture has to be built first. Learners need coping skills to reflect on feedback & use for improvement
I really believe that we can restructure schools in ways that lead to better teaching, Ss svc.
Great point! https://t.co/ChSGEKAizk
A6 yes, but maybe not at the same time. It can be difficult to honestly accept feedback when thinking about what feedback to give.
And someone is always watching... https://t.co/LqW5dVHy5B
absolutely! Lead by example! As Robert Eaker states "people watch your actions, not your words"
A6 only if the feedback is from a place of meaning. But certainly listening and sharing must be welcome https://t.co/IANlb6yaQk
Collaborative Growth! https://t.co/TL0NRGXTod
A6- Yes! This can help level the playing field for those who are anxious about receiving FB & help create shared goals.
A6:Seems if we are truly creating a trusting environment then we should not provide feedback after someone else gives us feedback.
Yes, that's so important to think about as we develop our craft, schools.
I think the collaboration works best when we are focused on a same goal, challenge, problem.
Thinking about now... https://t.co/KpJ17IRTFw
I think the collaboration works best when we are focused on a same goal, challenge, problem.
A really good challenge for all schools is building Ss collaboration--some great research out there about that.
I think anxiety about getting supervisor feedback would not result in giving them feedback too. https://t.co/fbMaqVmhrH
A6: Absolutely!! But culture has to be built first. Learners need coping skills to reflect on feedback & use for improvement
A6; Seems to be defense mechanism if we respond with feedback after someone else provides feedback
A6: Instinct is to clap back to neg. feedback, but we must remember that pedagogy is indeterminate. Once you coast, you're toast.
Absolutely! It's hard 2 take constructive criticism from someone who hasn't constructed anything! 🔁 ⚖ https://t.co/2BfqWoORN4
Q6 - Would it be beneficial to offer feedback to someone who is offering you feedback? Explain why or why not.
In deep thought now... https://t.co/bK7pyWKqYI
A6:Seems if we are truly creating a trusting environment then we should not provide feedback after someone else gives us feedback.
A6 I'm struggling on this, yes but ground rules need to established so it doesn't become a contest. All feedback should be welcome
Positive notes are a BIG plus. We all crave the affirmation of a positive thought ⭐️
Kat, did I meet you on 6/6 at Boston Foundation?
In a culture where FB is valued, the evaluator would ask for the feedback to minimize the threat.
My thinking also - https://t.co/PwTYcvZGpI
A6; Seems to be defense mechanism if we respond with feedback after someone else provides feedback
Maybe not with peer-to-peer feedback, though, right? https://t.co/mLjnCQv7RI
A6; Seems to be defense mechanism if we respond with feedback after someone else provides feedback
A6: As long as we are supported in providing quality FB. "Thanks for Feedback" book got me thinking.
A6 My experience has been admin don't like feedback on their feedback, get defensive and doesn't help (but probably my delivery)
We must remember purpose of FB & that intentions are good and meaningful to promote culture. HQ FB is not a "gotcha" situation.
There's so much potential out there.
A6 If the relationship is already established and collaborative, then yes.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to see if in that light. Could easily go bad
Exactly! Collaborative Growth MUST be the mutual goal. https://t.co/ERMEOwPUCn
A6 I'm struggling on this, yes but ground rules need to established so it doesn't become a contest. All feedback should be welcome
I think peer-peer is different.
Sure did! We chatted re ! Glad you applied! Still recruiting more teachers: tinyurl.com2016Cabinets
I guess depends on the feedback. Why can’t you give the feedback another time? Let the feedback they gave you soak in.
As always, thanks to my partner in all of this, and all of the for keeping me sane-ish :)
So true! https://t.co/vO4W5xzkiG
A6: Instinct is to clap back to neg. feedback, but we must remember that pedagogy is indeterminate. Once you coast, you're toast.
Now I'm making the connection--good to see you here at Great to meet your colleagues last week too.
A6. If you set expectations clearly upfront, 360 feedback can be super powerful!
Sane...hmmm.. https://t.co/Be1V6o55vn
As always, thanks to my partner in all of this, and all of the for keeping me sane-ish :)
it sounds like we're staring to talk about PBL and those 21st century skills - now that's !
I was thinking peer-to-peer. I would give them their feedback on another day. What do you think?
Maybe a week later, minimum... https://t.co/2h1BciFuRI
I was thinking peer-to-peer. I would give them their feedback on another day. What do you think?
Very psyched with everyone tonight. Thank you for all coming. Be sure to follow those you’ve met tonight & come back for future
I think it depends. Are you talking T to T or Admin to T?
I know a great teacher in Worcester that may be interested
A6. Honest transparency. Also the additional feedback should not be a surprise. Ts, Ps, Ss know the truth https://t.co/C91d6n6PDE
Incredible sharing tonight! https://t.co/4Y7L9Rdhn2
Very psyched with everyone tonight. Thank you for all coming. Be sure to follow those you’ve met tonight & come back for future
Thanks for another great tonight! Great Qs tonight!
Meet up soon!!
We need feedback, too, esp. from the folks on . Anyone interested in our teacher & principal cabinets? https://t.co/pHuNcaojPv
Now look what you've done! You helped to make FABULOUS tonight!
Huge thanks to and for suggesting tonight’s collaboration and gearing up to join 2nite
This was my first Thinking it won't be the last!
So grateful! https://t.co/skD9GzWC1V
Huge thanks to and for suggesting tonight’s collaboration and gearing up to join 2nite
Great leadership and - I'm simultaneously exhausted and all worked up!!
Yes and that's what really empowers learners--love the team possible w/Ss and teachers.
It was great having you, Kimberly!
WOW, exhilarating way to end my Tuesday! Great catching up on what's happening across MA! Thank you
