#ATchat Archive
#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday February 8, 2017
8:00 PM EST
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to
#Atchat
. Our topic tonight is AT Myths and Misconceptions. We touched on this topic last week. Let’s explore deeper.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Please introduce yourself and tell us how many snow days you have had this year, if any. (of course it depends upon where you live)
#ATchat
participatechat
Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#ATchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/LbdD5CgZib
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Hi everyone! Brian from Bellingham, WA. Ed Tech TOSA for Bellingham public Schools.
#ATchat
Tomorrow will make 7.
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Emily Graniero from CT. Now working as a subsititute paraprofessinal in a local schoool district
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
@EGraniero
@EdTechBham
Welcome! Great to have you here!
#ATchat
In reply to @GarrityS20, @EGraniero, @EdTechBham
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Maegan SLP from CT I've had 1 snow day, but looks like two tomorrow
#ATchat
den_hunt
Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
#atchat
Denise Hunt. No snow here in SoCal!
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
Unfortunately, my partner in crime,
@mmatp
, isn't able to join us tonight. I'll be hosting solo. Please be kind.
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
#atchat
Shaun in Calgary. no snow days! Lots of snow tho. I think we only get snow days if the city turns into the Arctic overnight!
GarrityS20
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
Hi I'm Stacey from CT and we will have our first snow day tomorrow!
#ATchat
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
Lindsay from Ohio...I have had 2 snow days (because my kids were off.)
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
@Shaun_SLP
@den_hunt
@lindsayjoslater
Great to see everyone tonight!
#ATchat
In reply to @MaegeK, @Shaun_SLP, @den_hunt, @lindsayjoslater
NWingate5
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
Nicole, SLP Bluffton, IN.
#ATchat
TanyaSSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
Tanya from MA. First one tomorrow! Much needed!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include the
#atchat
hashtag
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
First question coming up.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
@NWingate5
Woohoo! Glad you made it!
#ATchat
In reply to @TanyaSSLP, @NWingate5
dmayo88
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
From western ma but no snow days working at a non profit not a school.
#atchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
Lynda from Wisconsin...no snow days for me yet.
#atchat
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
Thanks for hosting!
@KarenJan
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
First one in RI tomorrow
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
Last week, with
@PrAACticalAAC
we touched upon the subject of AT Myths. Let's continue it tonight. 1st question coming up.
#ATchat
In reply to @PrAACticalAAC
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
#ATChat
- What are the most common myths and misconceptions you encounter from your colleagues?
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Leslie - AT specialist from LI, NY
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
@lynda_laugavitz
@dmayo88
Nice to see you here! We're expecting the first snow day tomorrow - 8 -14 inches predicted.
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp, @lynda_laugavitz, @dmayo88
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Thank you!
#ATchat
In reply to @EdTechBham
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Love when you can join the conversation!
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1:Myth-even though AT consideration for all Ss on IEPs was written into law in 1997, AT is only for Ss w/ complex special needs
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
I see the fairness issue as 1 of the greatest myths.Fair doesn't mean giving everyone the same, instead give everyone what they need
#atchat
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
Prerequisite skills; most dangerous assumption instead if least
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1: The greatest misconception/myth is eBooks are a crutch or hinder students' ability to read
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
Great article about AT Myths and Ss with LDs by
@ATDyslexia
.
#ATchat
In reply to @ATDyslexia
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: I encounter the myth that AT will solve everything with no effort from steakholders. The magic pill myth
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NWingate5
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1 Some get caught up on the pic symbol rather than motor planning piece.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1 - yes, common misconception!
#ATchat
@alysstets
In reply to @alysstets
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Prerequisite skills; most dangerous assumption instead if least
#ATchat
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Myth: if AAC in introduced children will never speak
#atchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
#atchat
A1) num 1 is that immediate performance is the only way to determine success. Sad to hear this from other therapists
TanyaSSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: With regard to AAC, must master low-tech first, must prove understanding of symbols, must have a certain level of cognition
#atchat
den_hunt
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
a1 AT benefits all students who are struggling.
#atchat
wernedat
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
hi - Elisa from Florida, temp relocated to Cleveland OH where I'll lurk in
#atchat
this wk as I recover from pretty major surgery
In reply to @KarenJan
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
#atchat
A1) the need for "certain" prerequisite skills is a close 2nd
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
Yup - the AT as crutch myth. I wrote a blog post about it.
@lrdichiara
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1: The greatest misconception/myth is eBooks are a crutch or hinder students' ability to read
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
@wernedat
So glad you an join us - Speedy recovery!
#ATchat
In reply to @wernedat
wernedat
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
hi - Elisa from Florida, temp relocated to Cleveland OH where I'll lurk in
#atchat
this wk as I recover from pretty major surgery
In reply to @KarenJan
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: That tech is a crutch only needed by kids who "can't"
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 Once tools are given to S, they should be all set--missing ongoing need for training, teaching, support, reassessment
#ATchat
den_hunt
Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 ...AT is only a device. Classroom strategies are not welcomed by many Ts.
#atchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: AT is only for low incidence students. AT is for everyone
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
Woohoo - great to see you here!
#ATchat
In reply to @tsocko
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: That tech is a crutch only needed by kids who "can't"
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
Sad, we are identifying so many AT myths.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
Q2:
#ATchat
Do you encounter different myths and misconceptions when working with parents? If so, what are they?
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: AT that is regularly available to S does not need to be written in the IEP.
#atchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
There are so many tools which I may suggest as AT that I find myself using every day. AT helps us all.
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: the iPad is the answer to all...smh...
#ATchat
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
Joining in late from Oklahoma but happy I can tonight.
#ATchat
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
A-1 Myth: It's gotta be "techie" to be assistive technology
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
dmayo88
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
#atchat
a2. That using at means they can't do a task instead of understanding it will help them accomplish the task independently
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
#atchat
the biggie is the worry that
#aac
will affect their child's ability to vocalize
In reply to @KarenJan
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1 using audio books will prevent them from reading
#ATchat
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
Greatest misconception by parents is that AT will be a silver bullet.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: it's the tool not the way you use said tool that matters
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
@JudithSchoonov1
Great to see you here!
#ATchat
(I think I missed welcoming some people.)
In reply to @tdcraw, @JudithSchoonov1
TrynSlp
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1 that behaviorally based methods r needed to teach AAC to Ss with ASDs
#ATCHAT
In reply to @KarenJan
Megmburns02
Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
A1: That AT shouldn't be introduced too early - the thought that you have to exhaust other interventions first
#atchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
#atchat
A2
In reply to @KarenJan
den_hunt
Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2. My child loves iPads and computers! Can't they get one?
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
I see that but sometimes they want to hold off on the AT - also a myth.
#ATchat
In reply to @tsocko
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
Greatest misconception by parents is that AT will be a silver bullet.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2 Myth: effective implementation is quick and easy
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giveawayjoox
Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
#atchat
A1) the need for "certain" prerequisite skills is a close 2nd
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
U R so right!
#ATChat
In reply to @KerriHslp
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
I don't see that too often in my district.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1 this works for ____ so it works for all.
#ATchat
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
I agree
@lrdichiara
. In general I think colleagues see AT as a crutch.
#atchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
and sometimes this is asked by saying, "do you think she'll ever talk?" Careful answer needed here!
#ATchat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP
AssignmentHelpN
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#csk8
#ctedlead
#currichat
#EdBeat
#2ndchat
A Quick Guide on How to Write a Book Review
https://t.co/3BnLyV1BCF
massignmenthelp
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#csk8
#ctedlead
#currichat
#EdBeat
#edubkcl
#2ndchat
Start a blog in college
https://t.co/SW64eeDA9h
TanyaSSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: They like technology too much, it could never be useful for AT/AAC
#atchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 Myth
#atchat
AT is provided by a "person" when in fact it needs to be a team (and sometimes building-wide) endeavor
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
Q3:
#ATchat
- Do you find students have misconceptions about AT?
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
#atchat
if I had a nickle for every time I've said "every child is different" and "I wish I had a crystal ball"
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: Ss are proficient because they use devices to play games...Using a device educationally is different from interactive gaming
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
Oops meant to add the link -
https://t.co/xgY0zzR2aK
#ATchat
@ATDyslexia
@EdTechBham
In reply to @ATDyslexia, @EdTechBham
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
Great article about AT Myths and Ss with LDs by
@ATDyslexia
.
#ATchat
In reply to @ATDyslexia
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
A2 myth....AT- it's only a specialists' job. sorry--it's everyone's responsibility!
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
I"m fortunate that many I work with see the benefit of it! But i know the struggle for many is very real!
#ATchat
In reply to @EdTechBham
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
Way off of my game - here's the link to
@ATDyslexia
's article
https://t.co/M7rRAjJIxV
#ATchat
In reply to @ATDyslexia
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
can we get a link?
In reply to @KarenJan, @ATDyslexia
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3:
#atchat
AT is for the kids who "can't do."
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
AGREE!
@alysstets
#ATchat
In reply to @alysstets
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
A2 myth....AT- it's only a specialists' job. sorry--it's everyone's responsibility!
#ATchat
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3 many can't picture the benefit only see how they will stand out but get them hooked and they will advocate for others.
#ATchat
live_simplelife
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2
#atchat
parent doesn't want student to "rely on" AT
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
In my gen ed population Ss can assume falsely that the AT will make tasks "easy" for them as opposed to accessible.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
A-2 some parents feel AT is something their student is "entitled to" without understanding how it relates to need
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2 Sadly, I had few parents really involved.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
This post has a great info graphic about debunking myths about audiobooks!
#ATchat
https://t.co/eiyfl5KQOA
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
yep, in
#AugComm
we talk about operational competency and then linguistic, social & strategic competencies.
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3:
#atchat
"I don't need that."
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
Yes, they told me S was resistant to AT. Showed him features in iOS10 and he shared w/ his classmates.
#ATistheanswer
#ATchat
In reply to @tdcraw
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3 many can't picture the benefit only see how they will stand out but get them hooked and they will advocate for others.
#ATchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
#atchat
#atchat
A3) I've seen this with older students: the fear that they will stand out and be different.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
Did you know
#ATchat
has a
@voxer
group too? Check out
https://t.co/YOmcNf29Xu
to sign up
In reply to @voxer
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
Yep. And classroom teachers often lack training to use efficiently w/in class dynamic.
#atchat
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3: original AT may now fall more into realm of IT--Ss dont realize features are supporting their needs vs. what everyone uses now
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
Most parents do understand the difference once it has been explained....It's just an automatic assumption
#atchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
jimsonthego
Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
including the student
#atchat
the student should know he or she has a voice, and that it will be heard and impactful
In reply to @alysstets
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
The "I don't want to be different" myth. The AT can replace 1:1 adult support which makes them different, right?
#ATchat
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3 Yes, by the time Ss got to me in 4th they had lost much self efficacy. Many wanted the tech to fix everything.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
YES!!! My greatest take away (aside from UDL pratices) is moving away from the expert model!
#atchat
In reply to @alysstets
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
it's very much a reflex for parents
#atchat
In reply to @lrdichiara, @VickiBostonSLP
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
So what happens when they discover that's not true?
#ATchat
In reply to @tsocko
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
In my gen ed population Ss can assume falsely that the AT will make tasks "easy" for them as opposed to accessible.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
Q4 coming up.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
Q4 Why do you think AT myths and misconceptions persist?
#ATchat
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
Hopefully the relationship between T and S will push student to persist.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
den_hunt
Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
#ATchat
A3 and IEP teams do not understand how to pre-screen for AT.
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
it's very much a reflex for parents
#atchat
In reply to @lrdichiara, @VickiBostonSLP
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
I have had this happen occassionally! Abandonment can occur when they realize it wont do the work for them.
#Atchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @tsocko
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
A3 Ss expect Ts to be supportive & helpful w/problem solving AT sadly many take not my job or can't figure how 2 integrate to class
#ATchat
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4 1 it is a young constantly changing field, 2 many professionals were given misinformation by people who are uniformed 3 laziness
#ATchat
den_hunt
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
No time for PD for staff to learn AT policies and procedures.
#atchat
tsocko
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
lack of ownership of the process, training, funding, time...
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
GarrityS20
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4: I find that the staff I work with don't know what AT is out there to use. We aren't offered PDs about it
#ATchat
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
I wonder if Ss who have never known anything different might have trouble perceiving that 1:1 is different in 1st place
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4 fear and failing to provide supportive environment from admin to students.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4: Lack of training, awareness, exposure, and a general misunderstanding of the power of AT in the right hands
#ATchat
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4: myths persist b/c everyone is not aware what what AT is and are only exposed to it if they come across someone who needs/uses it
#atchat
jimsonthego
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
#atchat
what to do about overcoming myths? Working to make all tools available to all students, as much as possible to alleviate stigma.
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A3 p.2 A screw driver is a great tool but I have to do something to make it work AND it doesn't work in all settings. Same with AT.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
Thanks for that point,
@KerriHslp
. I never thought of it that way.
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
I wonder if Ss who have never known anything different might have trouble perceiving that 1:1 is different in 1st place
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
interesting observation
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp, @KarenJan
ATDyslexia
Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
Parents definitely have this concern. Here's my response in an
@UnderstoodOrg
piece:
https://t.co/mgmhibN15s
#ATchat
In reply to @UnderstoodOrg
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1: The greatest misconception/myth is eBooks are a crutch or hinder students' ability to read
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
@JudithSchoonov1
@KerriHslp
It is an interesting observation, isn't it?
#ATchat
In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @KerriHslp
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
interesting observation
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp, @KarenJan
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4: myths cont. due to need for knowledge, experience, new pedagogy, least dangerous assumption, PD
#ATchat
TrynSlp
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
#ATChat
it is sometimes easier to assume lack of Competence than to learn new teaching methods/skills
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
Love this conversation tonight! Sorry I didn't have time to post the questions ahead of time We will tackle solutions shortly.
#ATchat
TanyaSSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4: Some myths still exist because people do not put in the work 2 make implementation successful so they don't then see benefits
#atchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
#atchat
been brought up before but I wonder if a certain degree of training needs to be done towards admin for trickle effect
In reply to @EGraniero
dmayo88
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
#atchat
A4. Many myths exist because most people don't realize they use AT in their own lives
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4 Cont..i only started using ATwheni ran into problems in high school and at that time no one was there to guide me
#atchat
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4: Our "one size fits all" approach to instruction and a system that assumes S has the problem...no thought about access.
#atchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4
#atchat
@jimsonthego
has the right idea. I'm finding as we have provided AT Tools site and district wide, they are more accepted.
In reply to @jimsonthego
EduGladiators
Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
❤️SATURDAY
#EduGladiators
series continues w/
@PaulONeill1972
moderating - Discipline from the ❤️!
#ATchat
#CPChat
#csk8
#currichat
#edbeat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
Unfortunately, so true. It's the students "fault."
@TrynSlp
#ATchat
In reply to @TrynSlp
TrynSlp
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
#ATChat
it is sometimes easier to assume lack of Competence than to learn new teaching methods/skills
In reply to @KarenJan
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4
#ATchat
@JudithSchoonov1
Also, 1:1 support is familiar and comfortable--AT might be scary because new and different
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @JudithSchoonov1
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
I find most success by training the paras and student themselves!
#atchat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @EGraniero
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
Agree - AT is ubiquitous - so many features built into smartphones and wearables
#ATchat
@dmayo88
In reply to @dmayo88
dmayo88
Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
#atchat
A4. Many myths exist because most people don't realize they use AT in their own lives
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
that's where AT service delivery extends to creating a culture of expecting competence & decreasing dependence
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @KerriHslp
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
I thin its a combo of that and student knowing strengths and where they need mire support which can be offered by AT
#atchat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
#atchat
definitely have to focus on frontline staff! But I'm thinking in terms of info sharing and pressure
In reply to @lrdichiara, @EGraniero
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
Really appreciate this perspective as I always wondered why acceptance of para support wasn't questioned
@KerriHslp
@JudithSchoonov1
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp, @JudithSchoonov1
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4
#ATchat
@JudithSchoonov1
Also, 1:1 support is familiar and comfortable--AT might be scary because new and different
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @JudithSchoonov1
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q5 What are the most effective ways you have found to overcome common AT Myths and Misconceptions?
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
Even focusing on influential staff members who can promote, support&help colleagues 2 see the potential of AT
#ATChat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @EGraniero
ATDyslexia
Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
Yes, unfortunately,
#AlternateFacts
are nothing new. We must continue to educate about
#AssistiveTech
!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
Sad, we are identifying so many AT myths.
#ATchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
#atchat
that's a much nicer way of putting it :)
In reply to @lrdichiara, @EGraniero
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A5...
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
Even focusing on influential staff members who can promote, support&help colleagues 2 see the potential of AT
#ATChat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @EGraniero
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
Thanks for joining us tonight - your AT Myths
https://t.co/FyJq0Pl0Si
article is a great one.
#ATchat
In reply to @ATDyslexia
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A5: video it...show hard evidence of effectiveness
#ATchat
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A5: the proof is in the pudding. Showing progress and staying steady in the face of doubt. When child succeeds they learn.
#ATchat
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
A-5 being present to dispel them. Actions & examples speak louder than words or at least as loud
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
#atchat
A5) leading by example (modelling!), Hands on education, and demonstrating some degree of success in the user
In reply to @KarenJan
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
A5 Overcome myths through convos, advocacy, training, & support. Being a TOSA has drastically change how I will teach in future.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q5 What are the most effective ways you have found to overcome common AT Myths and Misconceptions?
#ATchat
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
@Shaun_SLP
so important!!
#ATchat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @KarenJan, @Shaun_SLP
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
A5 Involve all stakeholders in trials and decisions about AT
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
@JudithSchoonov1
@MaegeK
@alysstets
Great answers to Q5!
#ATchat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @JudithSchoonov1, @MaegeK, @alysstets
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
A5
#atchat
Regular ed classroom training opportunities for entire class. Offering to return as "another set of hands" for a future lesson.
dmayo88
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
#atchat
A5 communication, communication, communication
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
A5: Providing ongoing support and PD for S and staff around using the AT.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
@lynda_laugavitz
@dmayo88
@lindsayjoslater
Yes, Yes, Yes!
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp, @lynda_laugavitz, @dmayo88, @lindsayjoslater
tdcraw
Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5 start with smallest simplest item first. Don't overwhelm Ss and Ts with too much at one time. Build up little at time.
#ATchat
TanyaSSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5: Train, model, 2 weeks later...repeat...Train, model, 2 weeks later...repeat. it's a cycle
#atchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
#atchat
Yes!
In reply to @dmayo88
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
This why I love
@TeachingChannel
#atchat
#assistivetech
In reply to @TeachingChannel
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A5: video it...show hard evidence of effectiveness
#ATchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5
#atchat
Train students who need AT the most as student mentors - experts to assist their peers.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
A5 sharing Data collection results (pre and post AT implementation) offers objective support to dispel myths.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
A5: Know the myths so you can easily dispel them with examples of success and research based support.
#ATchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
#atchat
the success piece is so big for both Ss and Ts, both have to see success to buy-in
In reply to @tdcraw
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
Can you share a few ways you do this?
@lindsayjoslater
#atchat
Ipn what settings?
In reply to @lindsayjoslater
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
What does that look like in your district?
#ATchat
@lindsayjoslater
In reply to @lindsayjoslater
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
A5: Providing ongoing support and PD for S and staff around using the AT.
#atchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
#atchat
love this idea. I've had recent success with it! I'm creating my own army of ALI minions!
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5
#atchat
@KarenJan
once in a while I have luck engaging a student in a "scientific experiment" to determine if AT helps them. Kinda fun.
In reply to @KarenJan
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5: Ts have so much on their plates...AT has to be presented as a manageable solution. Go sloooow and work with the Ts comfort level
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
Can you explain more?
@lynda_laugavitz
#ATchat
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5
#atchat
@KarenJan
once in a while I have luck engaging a student in a "scientific experiment" to determine if AT helps them. Kinda fun.
In reply to @KarenJan
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
#atchat
totally agree but... Important to be mindful of those who aren't necessarily "data-driven"
In reply to @KarenJan
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
some things are such settled questions in my head that I forget not everyone understands. Being prepared is good.
#ATChat
In reply to @lrdichiara
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q6: Whose responsibility is it to dispel AT myths and misconceptions?
#ATchat
KerriHslp
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
A5 Listen to Ts and staff and keep providing support where it's needed. Be creative
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
Yes!
@lrdichiara
How about we ask Ts to reflect on their practice & replace something that doesn't reach all Ss w/the tech that does
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5: Ts have so much on their plates...AT has to be presented as a manageable solution. Go sloooow and work with the Ts comfort level
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
I completely agree! I sometimes forget too since AT is a part of my every day!
#ATchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
This has come up a lot in my district
@lynda_laugavitz
. Whether gen
#edtech
integration or
#assistivetech
. Empower Ss as trainers.
#atchat
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
A-6 everyone's!
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
A6: I think it should be a community effort, once s/he knows spread the wealth.
#ATchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
#ATchat
Help S. design a pre/post test around a skill. Take data with and without AT. Ask: "which way were you most successful?"
In reply to @KarenJan
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
Ideally yes....Greatest hurdle is lack of tech resources for all Ss to do this.
#Atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
Agree but how do we get buy-in of ownership?
#ATchat
@JudithSchoonov1
In reply to @JudithSchoonov1
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
A-6 everyone's!
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
setting up student run help desks is an option,
https://t.co/GxJlr67oip
more info can also be found from ISTE
#atchat
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5
#atchat
Train students who need AT the most as student mentors - experts to assist their peers.
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
#ATchat
AND sometimes "which way will you get a better grade?" Depends on the student....
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
That approach helps build metacognitive strategies and strategic competence.
#ATchat
@lynda_laugavitz
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
#ATchat
Help S. design a pre/post test around a skill. Take data with and without AT. Ask: "which way were you most successful?"
In reply to @KarenJan
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
Q5 is a tough one...deeply rooted in personal/educational philosophy & pedagogy.
#ATchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
#atchat
a6) has to be everybody! There will always be new myths and non-believers
JudithSchoonov1
Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
Again, being a visible presence, providing information, modeling, noting & celebrating what people r doing right
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6: Before debunking we need to get to the root as to WHY these myths exist in the first place.
#atchat
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
Q6 is a tough one...deeply rooted in personal/educational philosophy & pedagogy.
#ATchat
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
Ongoing parent communication about the plan, need for support at home & around use of AT as it was being implemented.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
Thank you for the solutions-so important to offer solutions when we identify challenges. We can change the world!
#ATchat
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
#atchat
seriously would be highlight of my life... Note to self for next Halloween!
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
Something to ponder - do they have a purpose?
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6: Before debunking we need to get to the root as to WHY these myths exist in the first place.
#atchat
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
note: if you follow the link you must scroll down to the orange highlighted video. That is the one i am refering to.
#atchat
TanyaSSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
A6: Start strategically. Who in your school has some buy in? Work together to implement, invite others to observe & participate
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
A6: ideally everyone but some responsibility on administration to set a welcoming culture for AT (UDL!) to flourish, not as "add on"
#ATchat
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
We also wrote our training needs into the AT plan so we could make sure all stakeholders were considered as we met.
#atchat
In reply to @EdTechBham
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
Thanks for posting the link re student help desks.
#ATchat
In reply to @EGraniero
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
To debunk we need to understand why they are believed in to begin with....then we can start to create understanding
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
Q7 - in the last few minutes, what additional thoughts do you have about AT myths and misconceptions that we haven't discussed?
#ATchat
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
A6 All of us. Our dist. is examining AT and using
#QIAT
to improve what we do across the system.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q6: Whose responsibility is it to dispel AT myths and misconceptions?
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
Hi! just posted the last one.
#ATchat
In reply to @FionaBushnellAT
Shaun_SLP
Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
#atchat
thoughts on getting to that point?
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
TrynSlp
Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
#ATChat
we model ALgS and let others see those "Aha" moments!
In reply to @KarenJan, @JudithSchoonov1
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
Keep the convo going. Join our
#ATchat
Facebook group.
https://t.co/Gah9ojvJdk
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
I agree...must listen & then determine entry points for moving thinking beyond the myths.
#atchat
In reply to @lrdichiara, @KarenJan
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
A7 we need to make sure that we debunk myths with respect. Nothing worse then embarrassing a team member.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
Thanks for another great chat!
#ATchat
FionaBushnellAT
Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
Everyone. Sometimes I think it is a branding issue. People don't know or understand what we do.
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
A7-- media catches onto hypes>teams get slammed with "my Ss needs X or (brand product)">imbalance of feature needs possible.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
Important point
@MaegeK
#Atchat
In reply to @MaegeK
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
A7 we need to make sure that we debunk myths with respect. Nothing worse then embarrassing a team member.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form:
https://t.co/jp5B3BvIWy
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
what I've seen work- 1: frank discussion on $ & benefits 2: admin chat w/other admin who have had success 3: parent push
#ATchat
In reply to @Shaun_SLP
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
Any topics people would like to make sure we cover the next few months?
@mmatp
and I are always open to ideas.
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
JesTVIOandM
Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
Excellent and sciencey! Self eval based on data not just emotion e.g. I don't want to do it differently
#ATchat
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz, @KarenJan
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
A6
#atchat
The Personalized Learning approach embraced by our district has begun to embrace UDL - things are blossoming from there So lucky!
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
Were there any first-timers here tonight?
#ATchat
GarrityS20
Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
@KarenJan
It was my first time here
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
Thank you for joining us. Hope you will return next Wednesday night!
#ATchat
In reply to @GarrityS20
lindsayjoslater
Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
how exciting!
#atchat
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
EdTechBham
Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
A7 There is still too much "that is the SpEd or OT or SLP's job." Not out of malice but out of overwhelm. Need to work together!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
What does "mid-tech" mean to you? Curious.
#ATchat
In reply to @alysstets, @mmatp
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
8:00 ET
#ATchat
In reply to @FionaBushnellAT, @GarrityS20
lynda_laugavitz
Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
@KarenJan
#atchat
Thanks for your expert moderation. I'm always amazed at how slowly I process info shared here. It's a happening place!
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thank you for the great conversation tonight. For those of us in the Northeast, enjoy the snow day tomorrow!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
The storify will be out later - it's so great to review it later.
#ATchat
In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
lrdichiara
Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
@MaegeK
Essential! Trust is lost and openmindedness will be gone if this occurs. Great point!
#ATchat
In reply to @MaegeK
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
A7 we need to make sure that we debunk myths with respect. Nothing worse then embarrassing a team member.
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
For those wanting more
#AugComm
chat, don't forget
@PrAACticalAAC
is hosting
#USSAAChat
tomorrow at 7ET on building AAC culture.
#ATchat
In reply to @PrAACticalAAC
participatechat
Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
#ATchat
just ended! Transcripts and curated resources are now available at
https://t.co/LbdD5CgZib
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
Thank you everyone! Loved the conversation tonight. See you next Wednesday at 8:00 ET.
#ATchat
MaegeK
Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
@VickiBostonSLP
so exciting
#atchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @PrAACticalAAC, @VickiBostonSLP
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:01 PM EST
Would you be interested in co-moderating that topic
#ATchat
In reply to @alysstets, @mmatp
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
Apps to use for works read aloud day
#atchat
#edchat
#edtechchat
#simmonsastech
https://t.co/Dd29PcqL54
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
Awesome - can you add your name to this form?
https://t.co/jp5B3BvIWy
#ATchat
In reply to @alysstets, @mmatp
alysstets
Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
@KarenJan
Great hosting tonight!!
#ATchat
great dialogue everyone! 👏🏼
In reply to @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Thank you for being easy on me tonight - tough to host alone.
@mmatp
was sorely missed!
#ATchat
He should be back next week.
In reply to @mmatp
EGraniero
Feb 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
#atchat
#edchat
#edtechchat
#simmonsastech
https://t.co/S57eSucGyS
mmatp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
Sorry I missed the convo tonight. Will catch up with the Storify and will be back next week for sure
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Thank you for being easy on me tonight - tough to host alone.
@mmatp
was sorely missed!
#ATchat
He should be back next week.
In reply to @mmatp
DShhmackk
Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
#ATChat
Thank you, I am more hopeful for the twin girls in first grade who just received their AT device and I am learning with them.
markleydrew
Jan 25 @ 8:58 PM EST
Thanks
@PATINSPROJECT
for this great interview!
#patinsicam
#atchat
A Voice for Josie
https://t.co/E5EYhw1MVo
In reply to @PATINSPROJECT
bwwojci
Feb 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
The latest
#ATchat
Weekly!
https://t.co/T89PMrAmeC
Thanks to
@EGraniero
@InclusiveLN
@ibuddha
#atchat
#edtechchat
In reply to @EGraniero, @InclusiveLN, @ibuddha