#txhsfbchat Archive
A chat for high school football coaches. Topics discussed: coaching methods, program development, and impacting our athletes.
Wednesday April 20, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
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Tonight we talk about your playbooks..."To Playbook or Not Playbook, That is the Question..."
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I hope you have enjoyed the access to college coaches recently. They have crazy schedules & I am glad to have them when we can
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Cody Gardner
Unattached,
host of Every other Thursday at 8 CST
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Tonight's chat is a regular chat, hosted by me, & will follow the Q1,Q2...A1,A2 format. Please RT all Qs and engage in the chat
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Lets make some new connections now! Introduce yourself and find a new coach to welcome to the chat and follow them!
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Mathew Bennett, OL, live from South Carolina
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No class tonight... so I'm here.
James Soria
Offensive Coordinator
Houston Austin HS
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Ryan McCartney DC Seymour HS, IN
Host of
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I am Chris Fisher, OL coach at Ridge Point HS in Missouri City, TX. I am your host, moderator, and creator of
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Brandon Sneed, Charlotte, NC
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Eddie Young, HC/OC Lajeunesse HS, Windsor, ON
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Paul Shelton OC/QB's Bearden High School, Knoxville, TN
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Pete Moye'
Lynwood HS
DBs/ST Coordinator
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Nick Stromeyer. Currently a free agent. Aspiring college football coach once I graduate from A&M in May
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Joey Jackson, O-line coach A&M Consolidated High School, College Station Texas.
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Here we go! Q1 will post in 1 minute!
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We used last year, I liked it,
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Zach Kelley. DC and OLB coach at Dallas Adamson https://t.co/oHhBvUUMfw
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Lets make some new connections now! Introduce yourself and find a new coach to welcome to the chat and follow them!
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Q1: How do you present your offense or defense to your players and coaches?
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Andrew Bauer run game coordinator/offensive line coach Liberty Union high school Ohio
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Mike Means Head Football Coach Oxford Area High School PA
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Freddy Gonzalez, Assistant Coach, Socorro HS
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A1: We have position manuals that each kid gets; no playbook; learn over the summer with reps and film.
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A1 Play book made on PowerPoint...animated this year and syncing with Hudl clip examples. As many VISUALS as possible
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A1 : I use white board and handouts with schemes. Keep the handouts short & simple
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A1) Our players have many different learning styles... try to accommodate... multi-media playbook can help accommodate..
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A1. We did chalk talk and walk throughs to install last year but will be moving to play books for each of the players now
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Zach Schneider Battle Ground Academy Franklin Tn
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A1: Playbooks were distributed to the team prior to the season. Adjustments were made weekly depending on gameplans.
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A1: we use Hudl at Boiling Springs, as do most high schools in SC. I have really enjoyed it and spent too much time on it.
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A1 Lots of visuals. Powerpoints, HUDL presentations, hand outs and white board. Then live walk throughs
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A1 a lot of chalk talk. We'll give out a route tree if they wanti but other than that we teach the offense on the chalk board
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A1: we learn our plays on the board and on the field though, don't like idea or distributing playbooks. They'll get gone
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A1) Playbook through Hudl, PPT, or Handouts.
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A1 Using HUDL presentations for the 2nd time & it is much improve! Can incorporate ppt slides, video clips, & playbook
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A1 cont: Install took place on Mondays and Tuesdays. Review on Wednesdays and Thursdays.
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Our playbook completely split up into position groups as well...only position that has to know it all is QB
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A1. Coaches--get it on the whiteboard. Players--whiteboard, football days during the offseason before spring ball
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A1 Hudl playbook is another great too for getting this accomplished. Easy too!
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Coach Owens
OC Lamar County HS
Barnesville, Ga
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A1 cont: This season, I'll be using HUDL for presentations. Since our FB IQ is a bit higher now, it will make it a lot easier.
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Q2: What is your reason for using a playbook, or not using a playbook?
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A1) I love getting them a flat image first, talking it thru, then doing it. SEE, HEAR, DO
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QB's receive progressions only for about a week to learn the are introduced to formations & base plays https://t.co/ewwntCk3Q2
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Q1: How do you present your offense or defense to your players and coaches?
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A2 As much as I want to use one, I know majority won't touch it. They prove that with their classwork.
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A1: Present philosophy and core values first. Show cut ups of what we want to look like. Then teach our schemes in Indy mtgs.
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A2 Playbook is just another tool to teach. Having it multimedia with animations gives kids something to refer back to
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A2. Providing the playbook and reviewing the plays makes each player more accountable in the process
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Then they teach formation and signals to the rest of the offense.Skill guys just need 2 be able to read https://t.co/ewwntCk3Q2
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Q1: How do you present your offense or defense to your players and coaches?
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Josh Faure - HC Northern Raiders (HS equivalent) AUSTRALIA
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A2: It's unnecessary IMO. Learn thru reps; focus on technique - we are simple in our scheme & following our rules.
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A2 cont...if they are combined with field time/chalk talk/Hudl I really see no drawback to giving to kids digitally as a tool
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A2: Mine consists of my base offense. Mostly formations, base runs and passes. During the season, we adjust based on opponent.
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A2: We've started having our guys create their own play books through meetings. Kids learn by producing and taking ownership.
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A2: I'm not a fan of physical playbooks at the HS level, because of the simple fact, kids forget things, and they get lost
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If you are installing from scratch as a new OC at a new school, would any of your thoughts change? Pieces, whole, book, not....
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I don't use a playbook, less thinking means more comfort and ability to play fast. QB's learn the most. https://t.co/efg0O6AZZ0
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Q2: What is your reason for using a playbook, or not using a playbook?
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A2 I think providing instruction on the board, with note taking, leads to more retention than giving a playbook
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A2 I feel like if we were to give them an playbook they wouldn't bother looking at it. Their homework would probably agree
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A1 we'll start with "chalk talks" and go through it on the white board before every install session
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I use previous season film/plays to teach and correct https://t.co/efg0O6AZZ0
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Q2: What is your reason for using a playbook, or not using a playbook?
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A2) If a playbook can help 1 kid learn, I am doing it... and I am convinced if done right it can help more than 1...
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A2: I've seen too much paper wasted on play books from kids who quit or lose them. Players take care of what they invest in.
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A2) Playbooks allow all athletes and coaches to be on the same page. Kids learn on paper and then apply it on the field.
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A2)guess I am going to spend the night pissing everyone off.There are certain types of learners that diagrams on paper will help
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Sorry that I'm late to the party... Frank Wilczynski, HC/OC, Overbrook HS, Pine Hill, NJ
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Q3: If you do use a playbook, how often do you update it with new information?
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A2) by all not the only learning tool, but one in the tool box... visual, kinesthetic, audio... all types of leaners
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A2) Not; I feel most kids don't learn that way or know enough to extract what's needed from a playbook. They need a guided tour
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A2 definitely agree with ... however, i will create little youtube videos that players can refer too
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A2 no "hard copy" playbook, but rather install presentations on HUDL that kids can reference at any time
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A3: I update it for me. I don't add it to the paper copies for players. I file them away digitally so I can refer back to them.
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A3: you could say updates come every week with new installations 4 different teams. OL may see a new front, QB new coverage etc
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Personal 1 I do when I c something that I like & it fits my philosophy.But as I stated kids don't c it https://t.co/ilEOfviuXb
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Q3: If you do use a playbook, how often do you update it with new information?
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A3) Update window is Dec 1st - Feb 28th, keep notes on adjustments made in season, review adj add if helpful, add new concepts
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A1/A2) use Hudl playbook but no hardcopy; all on field reps; during season would hand out weekly game plans w/plays diagrammed.
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A3.Season to season...if adjustments needed inseason done in field/classroom. We NEVER hand out copies anymore, it's all digital
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A3 cont: Weekly adjustments are made based on opponent. Then filed away for future reference.
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A3) that being said just because its in the book doesn't mean you have to install But if it isn't in the book, it doesn't exist
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A3 i have a master playbook with sets of plays and systems that im constantly updating
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A1: handed out playbooks to the players along with chalk talk.
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Q4: If you don't have an official playbook, where do you keep your information for reference purposes?
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A3)Playbooks are basic defense, terminology, assignments, alignments, formation recognition etc. They shouldn't change too much.
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We use Hudl playbook. No hard copies, but it has worked very well. Players have it on their phones now, soooo that's always.
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excellent questions! https://t.co/kTWoXHKvy8
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Q4: If you don't have an official playbook, where do you keep your information for reference purposes?
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well done am a d guy, was our HC/OC maybe he could shed some Offensive light on it,
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A3) Use scouting reports as updates.
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If you missed something, and would like to go back you can read up on the archive posted later on https://t.co/f5lk6qYuf8
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A3: Every time we install and every meeting. There should be updated notes throughout.
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A4: Have it online in Hudl playbook; Rules and Tech are in the manuals.
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A4 I had a lot of the base offensive concepts written down that I could refer to if we wanted to make changes
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A3: Tweaks thru season, overhaul as needed in offseason. Hudl playbook not perfect, but pretty damn good overall.
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Q4) I have a defensive coaches book, terms coverage, structure, positional breakdown, philosophy, etc
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Late but I'm Garrett Cox South Effingham HS Georgia QBs coach
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Hey, I get it... I know MANY of the playbook will not get used a lot... but will NONE of your athletes use them?
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A4: Everything is digital now. I lose everything paper.
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A4) have it on Hudl playbook, last year we made gameplans under script section, have reference to every team we played last year
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as far as note taking, do you give them some idea of how to take notes or just let them do it on their own?
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A3: when we add something I update digital copy, really all we have is digital copies.
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A4 cont: I'm currently adding our base stuff vs. various fronts to HUDL so it's ready to go before fall practice.
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A2: use playbook before spring starts. Let them study it. Then rep everything they studied making sure they understand it.
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I have about 10 jump drives full of football Playbooks, manuals, and scouting reports.
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Hudl playbook function is awesome... https://t.co/a7VIYTl7fP
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A4 cont: I'm currently adding our base stuff vs. various fronts to HUDL so it's ready to go before fall practice.
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Phil Sandifer. OC Paulding County Patriots Dallas, GA
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id make key points, rules are a given. I do like to let them individualize for their own learning, but outline.
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A4: I write everything down, if I didn't write things down, I would go crazy. I keep old notes for reference
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Q5: When giving your athletes and coaches hard-copies of your playbook, do you incorporate using it in meetings?
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A1 we draw everything on the white board w/video examples. Best tool to learn is to make em draw it over and over
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A1: we teach in meetings, through film & with install time allotted during spring ball.
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A4: I also have google drive, jump drives, and a external hard drive for a lot of storage
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I'm still learning more and more. I'm starting to like it a lot.
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A4 a playbook does exist, a yearly manual exist but they are made for new coaches and revisiting ideas.
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A4: we have weekly scouting reports/ game plans on Hudl for our coaches/players to access.
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A4 it also helps that I can write/type our entire playbook from memory/retention.
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A5: playbook is used mostly to get the coaches in the same page. Kids get a version more geared to understanding terminology
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I think if we had a meeting area or private locker room the. wouldn't mind kids having binders, but the parking lots is our room
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anyone here 1 to 1 regarding computers/ chrome books/ iPads at your school? thoughts on using devices https://t.co/bRiFAbPfdN
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Q5: When giving your athletes and coaches hard-copies of your playbook, do you incorporate using it in meetings?
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A5: our Coaches have hard copies, players we ask to make their own based on meetings/ on field learning. Soak it in...
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A5: I present the gameplan on sundays when we conclude coaches meetings. Then present to players on Mon during athletics period.
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If you have a good database of film that is tagged correctly it is really cool... https://t.co/gi88jLcmZW
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I'm still learning more and more. I'm starting to like it a lot.
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I've thought about PDF, shared thru GA4E, https://t.co/d2hdVF17F8
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anyone here 1 to 1 regarding computers/ chrome books/ iPads at your school? thoughts on using devices https://t.co/bRiFAbPfdN
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Q5: When giving your athletes and coaches hard-copies of your playbook, do you incorporate using it in meetings?
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awesome... i would like to hear about what you are doing some time... https://t.co/NkhUjVBKKu
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we are 1 to 1 iPad. It has been great for Hudl usage. Going to use it more with Hudl playbook this season.
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A2 no playbook means we're not tied to certain formations or plays. We have core concepts and adjust it to players
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A5 we'd use our copies to write everything on the board for the kids to see
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Q6: If you don't use a hard playbook, are there any instances where you do provide copies of the plays to players or coaches?
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Love hearing that, I'll will be in a similar situation next fall https://t.co/TRMyg0GWnm
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we are 1 to 1 iPad. It has been great for Hudl usage. Going to use it more with Hudl playbook this season.
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A4: core concepts are archived on previous year install schedules and ready lists
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A6) If a kid wants a copy, I will help him draw it,
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A6: Sure will. Write it down for them; have them copy it down; share files; whatever helps them retain the info
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We just started 1-to-1 w Chromebks this yr. Not wildly different than phone access 4 em, but a lil bit.
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A6 if they ask for one we will. If we find it left out somewhere they'll owe us. Most of the kids write stuff down in meetings
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A6: no. They get a spiral notebook at beginning of year and are expected to take notes each week
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A6: I'm weird. I don't like emailing stuff out. I'll post on HUDL so that I can track who sees it. Email is impossible.
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A6) hard copies of both O/D gameplan are distributed to players with diagrams on Tuesday of game week
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A6 cont: Whatever I hand out to players on monday, I collect it on friday. If I don't get it back, they owe me one.
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When we are installing something where it is strictly situation & really wanna hone I on it i.e. ComboCoverage, Route Combo
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A1 players will be emailed a digital copy of the PB broken down by install days, we will than cover each day in chalk
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Q7: How has advancing technology changed the way you use/transmit your offense and defense to your athletes and coaches
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many coaches responded they do if asked... some players won't ask for help ... they just out of luck? https://t.co/FD5B0lc7Es
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Q6: If you don't use a hard playbook, are there any instances where you do provide copies of the plays to players or coaches?
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A6: I'll sit with a kid anytime after practice or meeting to insure he's got it, again, I encourage them to draw it up.
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John Mitchell TE/H-back Midwest City HS Midwest City OK. My bad about the late chime-in fellas,but I'm here. What's really good?
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A2 W/ PB : it is something that they can look over w/ rules, diagrams & explanations helps them answer there own questions 1/2
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A7: Now, w/ HUDL, it's a hell of a lot easier. I love drawing stuff up by hand, but HUDL makes it so much more convenient.
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A2 W/O PB it makes them focus more during chalk time on what we are installing so that they cant blow it off & do it later
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A7 the biggest thing that has eased practice for me(other than hudl) is sharing and forming practice scripts on Google drive
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A6: if the players ask for a copy, I'll give them one. Install it on hudl so they can see it anytime.
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Be a teacher first & foremost! Why is kid struggling & whats the best way to facilitate learning? https://t.co/py4kRNWHxF
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many coaches responded they do if asked... some players won't ask for help ... they just out of luck? https://t.co/FD5B0lc7Es
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Q6: If you don't use a hard playbook, are there any instances where you do provide copies of the plays to players or coaches?
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A7) Hudl.. digital media... computers... handheld devices... streamlined process... give us more time to do more work!
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A3 Yearly at the end of the season i look at what we did best and worst, eliminate the worst and add on to the best
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A7 I didn't know you could use Hudl to do that kind of stuff honestly. Seems like that could be very useful
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A7: Hudl has made drawing play cards way easier, 1 script can be shared to whole staff
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A4 if im not giving it out to the players i still keep all the info in an organized powerpoint for myself
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that is why I think multi-media type playbook is a powerful tool https://t.co/9Hi8D2kfo3
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three types of learners: visual, kinesthetic, and auditory, you must hit all three!
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A5 im switching to a digital version but i believe it helps to have kids draw out or write notes on specific plays on paper
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A6: Our plays are made accessible viaHUDL,so there's no excuse for them not 2view it. There on there anyway looking@ highlights
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A7 cont: HISD issues laptops to our kids. Going digital is very easy for us. If I email a kid, I get a response within minutes.
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Great job! I hope you learned a lot and thought about why & what you do with your plabooks. Please follow a coach from tonight!
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A7: I like to take notes right on hudl clips from games and practices and send them over hudl. Talk about them next day
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A7: There's nothing for anyone to lose. Except their phone maybe, but when they get a new one, their playbook is on it.
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A6 If it's a weekly adjustment i print out the specific slides. or i will print out any thing our OL might need to review
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Really high level questions tonight Coach ... thanks for again your leadership with
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Thank to all the coaches that check in, share, read, and learn each week! Y'all help make this the best hour of the week!
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