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#asechat Welcome to asechat focussing on new science GCSEs Let's start with Q1 and take it from there. https://t.co/LHuACzjEN1

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:00 PM EST

#asechat @kathrynbooth23 of Edexcel; @ocr_science; and Helen Francis of @wjec_cbac are at hand to answer and ask questions

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:01 PM EST

@damianainscough opportunity to teach in any order you want to! #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:01 PM EST

@damianainscough @kathrynbooth23 @ocr_science @wjec_cbac can I just say thanks to Kathryn for her response today about T for tesla. #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:01 PM EST

@damianainscough Do you consider combined science GCSE to be good preparation for A levels in science? #ASEchat

IanMcDaid Feb 8 @ 3:02 PM EST

@chemray @damianainscough is that a new concept ray? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:02 PM EST

@chemray @damianainscough but is that a function of linear assessment that we have now? #ASEChat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:02 PM EST

@ViciaScience how do you define 'good'? #asechat

IanMcDaid Feb 8 @ 3:02 PM EST

#asechat and what about @AQA ?

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:03 PM EST

@kathrynbooth23 @ocr_science @wjec_cbac also other examboards have you triple checked the DfE content? :) #asechat

Salix_lanata Feb 8 @ 3:03 PM EST

@damianainscough #asechat at KS3 level in Foundation tier & Foundation level GCSE math in Higher papers. So not all maths will count to %.

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:03 PM EST

@IanMcDaid @damianainscough not particularly but i would guess many people follow the order of the spec and they dont need to.#asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:04 PM EST

@damianainscough would comb sci provide sufficient challenge and insights for students to aspire to A level, and enjoy course? #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:04 PM EST

@chemray @damianainscough and by extension - introduce spaced practice into the scheme of work #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:04 PM EST

#asechat okay, ready to go. currently teacher trainer, still a classroom physics teacher at heart.

helpmeimamedic Feb 8 @ 3:05 PM EST

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ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:05 PM EST

@kathrynbooth23 @damianainscough I would 'hope' that new combined science courses will be vast improvement on core and additional #ASEChat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:06 PM EST

@ViciaScience Looking at the triple additional content, it seems it would be an advantage to study it IF suff time #asechat

ShiftParadigm Feb 8 @ 3:07 PM EST

LIKE IT OR NOT, we are an early warning system for our students. Read why we must CONNECT THE DOTS https://t.co/1hND9I4Spa #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:07 PM EST

@damianainscough as usual, lots of content which will end up being rushed? #asechat

IanMcDaid Feb 8 @ 3:07 PM EST

@ViciaScience @kathrynbooth23 @damianainscough hardly a revolution, more like attempt at evolution in my eyes. wasted opportunity #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:07 PM EST

#ASEChat non sleeping child tonight plus we have chosen iGCSE so not much I can offer tonight I don't think!

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:07 PM EST

@damianainscough Not sure about needing additional content to survive at A level. It is approach that is needed #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:08 PM EST

Hello am here now, just had a call from daughter number 1 #asechat what we on about?

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:08 PM EST

@ViciaScience @kathrynbooth23 @damianainscough appears to be less difference between combined and triple in terms of content #asechat

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:08 PM EST

@damianainscough opportunity to build networks around planning for the new curriculum? Opportunity to get the schemes right?#asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:08 PM EST

#asechat we're doing something wrong - the answer to Q1 on #primaryrocks is Glue Sticks! :) That sounds ace ;)

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:08 PM EST

#asechat Have any A level teachers analysed the single sc additional content? Is it 'a must' for A level study?

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:09 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 Welcome. Opportunites and combined vs triple for A level prep #asechat

martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:09 PM EST

@chemray @ViciaScience @damianainscough I like that in triple the content is similar yet to more depth, rather than 'triple units' #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:10 PM EST

@damianainscough @NeedhamL56 there is yet more overlap with the A-Level physics and GCSE physics content now. #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:10 PM EST

@cleverfiend Hi Rob - an opportunity to individualise curriculum for school and student needs? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:10 PM EST

@damianainscough sharp intake of breath! #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:10 PM EST

@damianainscough I think it is possible for learners to go from combined to A level, some schools dont give students the choice, #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:11 PM EST

@ViciaScience Have you analysed the content and looked at progresion of key ideas at A level? Has anyone? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:11 PM EST

@A_Weatherall is 'sticks' noun or verb. If verb, then I already knew that #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:11 PM EST

@ViciaScience @chemray @damianainscough no, still very much examined a la modules #asechat hard to break way from

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

@ViciaScience for those that don't already! #asechat also a chance to dance on the grave of the USA, I won't be missing those... :)

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

@chemray What choice do you think they should give them? #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

@martin_clee @ViciaScience @damianainscough harder to identify what is just triple, using the triple specs to plan SOW for all #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

#asechat can I flag up the intriguing #teacher5adayScience idea from @martynReah? Info at https://t.co/jixMXchNuU

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

Progression is easier to see with mathematics and practical work in GCSE -> A level #ASEChat https://t.co/akw6Bqsp9R

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:11 PM EST

@ViciaScience Have you analysed the content and looked at progresion of key ideas at A level? Has anyone? #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

@chemray @martin_clee @ViciaScience @damianainscough much harder - and appears so arbitrary #asechat

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:13 PM EST

@ViciaScience that was meant to say ISA - bloody SwiftKey thinks it knows best! #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:13 PM EST

@chemray @ViciaScience @kathrynbooth23 @damianainscough big difference in content between Chemed Physics, much less diff for Bio. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:14 PM EST

Yes, you can. Please read this at some point, asechatters #asechat https://t.co/N6LuXhsqeN

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:12 PM EST

#asechat can I flag up the intriguing #teacher5adayScience idea from @martynReah? Info at https://t.co/jixMXchNuU

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:14 PM EST

Good evening #asechat - sorry I am late! :)

niamhirl Feb 8 @ 3:14 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough I'm in FE atm we tend to find some A&B grade students largely taught to the test lack basic skills #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

#asechat Welcome to tonight's chat focussing on new science GCSEs Questions we may consider: https://t.co/WNtVv0j3uv

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

@zbukhari197 @damianainscough just be prepared for questions that might be asked. No one will check you've done them! #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

@damianainscough in some 'secondary schools' dont offer TS as 'grammars' do, these students should still be able to study A level #asechat

martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @chemray @ViciaScience @damianainscough trying to route out the grade 9's #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

#asechat Interesting point about single sciences vs combined (chemistry) https://t.co/kt4IUzlGyT

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:04 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough should be...but Chemistry is awkward.DfE criteria dictates most organic & quantitative chem is separate only.

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

#asechat @kathrynbooth23 of Edexcel; @ocr_science; and Helen Francis of @wjec_cbac are at hand to answer and ask questions

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

What sort of ’skills’#asechat https://t.co/F2hNEtcwwQ

niamhirl Feb 8 @ 3:14 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough I'm in FE atm we tend to find some A&B grade students largely taught to the test lack basic skills #asechat

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

@damianainscough Ive been in #teacher5aday for a while and its a great idea .... especially the crowdsourcing resources for GCSE #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

@niamhirl @ViciaScience @damianainscough Do you consider greater maths and practical techniques focus will improve situation? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

#asechat https://t.co/VvW7HqMlzZ

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @chemray @ViciaScience @damianainscough I characterise it that bio adds extra depth to existing topics. Chem adds breadth....

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

@damianainscough a new GCSE also brings opportunity to harmonise teaching of maths between faculties #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

#asechat A detailed analysis of the benefits of single sciences vs combined for progression needs to be carries out @eic ?

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:17 PM EST

#asechat https://t.co/DkZEGmdQeW

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:16 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @chemray @ViciaScience @damianainscough ...by extra topics. Physics does a mix of both.

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:17 PM EST

@CazGerrard Welcome - we are discussing opportunities and the qn of triple vs combined for A level prep #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:18 PM EST

@niamhirl @ViciaScience CAn you give an example of a 'basic skill'? #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:19 PM EST

@cleverfiend @damianainscough fab idea, have you ever managed this?? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:19 PM EST

@damianainscough @EIC Need to remember breadth of curriculum could be limited by triple science #ASEChat #wantcombscitosucceed

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:19 PM EST

Combined science should be a good preparation for A level, late developers, or want a broader option choice #asechat https://t.co/pr69XUOrJW

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:15 PM EST

@damianainscough in some 'secondary schools' dont offer TS as 'grammars' do, these students should still be able to study A level #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:20 PM EST

@zbukhari197 Working scientifically and practical work are important for developing k, u and s in science so v important. #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:20 PM EST

@Science_HOD it depends whether you're "allowed" to do what's best for the kids or something that will be counted in the tables #asechat

Science_HOD Feb 8 @ 3:20 PM EST

Which gcse to help make up the drop from a school who ran a lot of bTec? #asechat

martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:21 PM EST

@damianainscough @niamhirl @ViciaScience if current A/B students don't have right skills current exams arent testing right skills! #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

We are trying to produce some common assessments to use across trust schools but its difficult to be sure we are using the right Qs #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

Only if used for developing that K, u and s rather than jumping through exam hoops #asechat https://t.co/Ldkb5alwNN

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:20 PM EST

@zbukhari197 Working scientifically and practical work are important for developing k, u and s in science so v important. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

@Science_HOD #asechat Combined as no single. A real issue for adult ed and other #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

@Science_HOD #asechat Combined as no single. A real issue for adult ed and other #asechat

opsonise Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

@CazGerrard like the idea of crowd sourcing. Have signed up to planning at Eggar school #teacher5aday event #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

How are different AOs planning to address minimum exam timings? Lots of short exams? #ASEChat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience for example, the removal of astro from 'double' spec. idiocy! #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:22 PM EST

@martin_clee @chemray @ViciaScience @damianainscough I have written about before. Grade 9 in science is going to be an odd feature #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:23 PM EST

@martin_clee @niamhirl @ViciaScience Or students are taught tricks without understanding? #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:23 PM EST

@Science_HOD trying to plan for our lower abilty students to cover the Foundation Combined course but using entry level style #asechat

martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:23 PM EST

@damianainscough @Science_HOD #asechat good question - bar is high what should lower ability do that wouldn't totally demoralise them

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:23 PM EST

@Science_HOD are Applied Science quals still possible? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:23 PM EST

@chemray this will take some time, while we get feel for the sort of questions, the SAMs probably won’t help in the long term #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:23 PM EST

@martin_clee @chemray @ViciaScience @damianainscough https://t.co/Qr02qvkJqm more grade 9s than A*s? #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:24 PM EST

@kathrynbooth23 @Science_HOD yes quite aware of that, we're off to Edexcel igcse #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:24 PM EST

@teachingofsci many sympathise with that view, but space science nearly got 'forgotten' at KS3 #ASEChat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ViciaScience See @EiC comparison of ABs (cant find link) #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:24 PM EST

#asechat I know all my Partner schools (day job) are desperate for a good selection of sample Qs with ms/examiner's reports

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:25 PM EST

@teachingofsci @ViciaScience yes that is shocking, but directed by @educationgovuk in their content statements #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:25 PM EST

#asechat can I flag up that apart from iGCSE the new specs all use the 'new' energy language. email me for info!

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:25 PM EST

@martin_clee You'll only get 7+ 4+ and 1+ I'd have thought #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 some boards put up latest SAMs others dont... the schools are already teaching, we need assessment? suggestions? #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

@martin_clee @Science_HOD Not easy as they should study science. Have to teach a curr challenging and interesting to them #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

#asechat anyone done this? Is it even possible yet/at all? https://t.co/UFnSK1tOJp

martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:24 PM EST

@A_Weatherall thanks I need some descriptors for different grades if possible

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

@damianainscough perhaps too early to say what assessments will look like for each AO? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

Please use the #asechat I’m missing some threads :)

peterslade Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

@doc_kristy @Science_HOD Nope. See https://t.co/zIIvR7StTa for details #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

@teachingofsci content and skills first, assessment later, "exam technique" is a red herring #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@teachingofsci won't happen unless boards get loads of schools to sit the SAMs and pay someone to mark them...#asechat

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@A_Weatherall I think this is the issue with accreditation? It's missing from draft specs. #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@doc_kristy I disagree - backwards assessment principle means the way Qs are asked defines what the exam boards are really testing. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@A_Weatherall No - and unlikely ANY will be written even for A C F as currently. #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@CazGerrard I am in the fortunate position of being outside the science department at the moment :) #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@A_Weatherall wont happen until national cohort sit I would guess #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

@teachingofsci so we are making progress! Also use new 'measurement' language and moving to common maths terminology and practice #ASEChat

AstrLehr Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

perhaps too early to say what assessments will look like for each AO? #ASEChat https://t.co/M2JuzweRyJ https://t.co/yfr4u0vkru

_Xtaylorr Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

When I have coursework that's to take at least 3 weeks to complete so I do it in 3 hours

martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

@A_Weatherall #asechat that would be great... It's hard designing a curriculum where the pitch is being kept close to people's chests

Science_HOD Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

.@doc_kristy @teachingofsci that should be printed on a t shirt somewhere #asechat

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

@chemray @teachingofsci A colleague is sitting the OCR papers as a 'student'. #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

#asechat as I thought. https://t.co/rwp4Ze8w4x

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:27 PM EST

@A_Weatherall Can't be done accurately - with the statistical award we don't know the performance required at each grade.

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:28 PM EST

@chemray don’t think the SAMs will change that much, use some igcse questions for the ass of WS skills, always same for a new spec #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@hrogerson @teachingofsci sounds like a good idea!#asechat

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@teachingofsci @doc_kristy but, the specs more like A-level with less specificity on the words in the right order from what I see. #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@chemray @a_weatherall and that won't be for two years from *this* summer. A long time to wait! #asechat #willallchangebythenanyway

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@teachingofsci we'll have to disagree I think (I'm a big girl, I can cope with that) #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@hrogerson @A_Weatherall No, Ofqual have said they are unlikely to be written #asechat How useful are they anyway?

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@martin_clee it's not feasible unfortunately. It's all a statistical game at the moment #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@ocr_science Oh, that’s reassuring, thanks. ABs been made to work really hard this time round! #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

@chemray we will continue to ensure latest versions of our specs and SAMs are up on our webpages. #ASEchat

zbukhari197 Feb 8 @ 3:29 PM EST

When do think we would here more about this #asechat https://t.co/BfzYcYSdlt

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST

@damianainscough perhaps too early to say what assessments will look like for each AO? #ASEChat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 I know, we are using questions from all the boards, past and IGCSE to try and make a paper sticking to the AO %s. #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

My understanding is that there are no grade descriptors and will not be any - @kathrynbooth23 - confirm? #ASEChat https://t.co/MjiemFTaob

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:26 PM EST
#asechat anyone done this? Is it even possible yet/at all? https://t.co/UFnSK1tOJp
- martin_clee Feb 8 @ 3:24 PM EST
  
  @A_Weatherall thanks I need some descriptors for different grades if possible

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

@Science_HOD try telling someone to prep for driving test with a copy of highway code but in information about what test entails. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

#asechat Welcome to tonight's chat focussing on new science GCSEs Some of the questions we are considering...

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

My main concern finding/producing resources *more like* the 2000 exploring science with graphs and data that get students thinking. #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

@chemray we will be producing additional assessment practice papers as we have for AS/A Level #ASEchat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

@damianainscough @hrogerson some of them are rubbish in most subjects just change some verbs and adverbs #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

This is useful info Ian. Lots of support from @IoP #asechat https://t.co/AOfODSYTDt

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:25 PM EST

#asechat can I flag up that apart from iGCSE the new specs all use the 'new' energy language. email me for info!

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:31 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 how can you be so sure, usually accreditation affects the SAMs the most. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:31 PM EST

#asechat 30 mins gone - What are the key issues arising and what support would you welcome (and from whom)?

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:31 PM EST

@ViciaScience @kathrynbooth23 confirmed already #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:31 PM EST

@wjec_cbac Can you explain how four papers are structured across science? #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:31 PM EST

@damianainscough getting those equations learnt :) #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:31 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @martin_clee if your lucky, didn’t think there was going to be any ‘level’ descriptors #asechat

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @IoP Our TLC Peter is assisting me with the Energy sow .. thank goodness!! #asechat Great support network available from IoP

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @martin_clee no has been confirmed #asechat :)

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@damianainscough @A_Weatherall I was asked to use them for an internal document once, I produced it, never used it. #asechat

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@damianainscough @A_Weatherall I was told exam boards can't release and ofqual won't release grade descriptors #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@doc_kristy I know what you mean - but that at least not my fault, i teach physics then bio, no cookery. :) @hrogerson #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat most AOs 2 x 1:45hr for seperate science and 6 x 1:10hr for combined

niamhirl Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

Shouldn't discount path from GCSE to L3 BTEC many students who are not A-Level material access uni degrees & apprenticeships via L3 #asechat

zbukhari197 Feb 8 @ 3:33 PM EST

Its difficult teaching and writing the schemes, editing previous resources to add more challenge #asechat https://t.co/dXknUGRrPG

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:30 PM EST

My main concern finding/producing resources *more like* the 2000 exploring science with graphs and data that get students thinking. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:33 PM EST

@hrogerson No existing resources applicable? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:33 PM EST

@CazGerrard @IoP you are very fortunate to have been allocated a TLC #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough rules say min 3.5hr assessment per single science & 7hr combined... #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @martin_clee who by, and where is the info please ? #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

#asechat even if you're not a @takeonphysics partner school, you can access materials eg https://t.co/87ds8nBAP5

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @IoP We are indeed! Also lucky to have a couple of my own contacts too ... especially as I am a chemist first! #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough ... we divided this up slightly differently for our two suites #Gateway and #C21 #ASEchat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @martin_clee by @kathrynbooth23 #asechat

opsonise Feb 8 @ 3:35 PM EST

@damianainscough I’ve pooled together resources from different schools;making free website. #asechat looks like this https://t.co/14fVnMZEgc

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:35 PM EST

#asechat @kathrynbooth23 of Edexcel; @ocr_science; and Helen Francis of @wjec_cbac are at hand to answer and ask questions

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:35 PM EST

@damianainscough not really, although will be looking at section D from OCR gateway. #asechat

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damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:35 PM EST

@cleverfiend @A_Weatherall That's because there aren't any for science (source Ofqual) #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:35 PM EST

@martin_clee comparable outcomes. Basically we're being pushed to do better by raising the floor standard from 4 to 5 #asechat

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:36 PM EST

@damianainscough @kathrynbooth23 @ocr_science @wjec_cbac my concern is our C/D border line students will now be in grade 4 :'( #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:36 PM EST

@hrogerson @damianainscough @A_Weatherall never met many people who use them. Use AOs and the skills they need for these instead.#asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:36 PM EST

@hrogerson #asechat @ofqual have written something on grades for reformed GCE and GCSE on their blog. https://t.co/OsV89l5Fkd

ayme_louise Feb 8 @ 3:36 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 but for some subjects e.g. English their specs have them, so why not Science? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:36 PM EST

Thank you #ASEChat https://t.co/MHfe3iNq9P

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat most AOs 2 x 1:45hr for seperate science and 6 x 1:10hr for combined

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:37 PM EST

#asechat - did we all get the memo by the way. 4 no longer the floor. 5 is - pushing about 30% of students below. https://t.co/i0AnJ1c8fw

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:36 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @A_Weatherall @martin_clee it'll be extremely difficult to do as award will be statistical.

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:37 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @A_Weatherall @martin_clee Ofqual told us they are very unlikely to be written. How much use anyway? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:37 PM EST

Sounds interesting - will look up your SAMS #ASEChat https://t.co/SvhTboUqT5

wjec_cbac Feb 8 @ 3:33 PM EST

@ViciaScience 3 papers on processes 1 each for biol, Chen & phys. 4th paper on applications across all 3

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:37 PM EST

@chemray @damianainscough @A_Weatherall Didn't need to for Gateway, loved how it was split into the three columns in the spec. #asechat

bio_kitty Feb 8 @ 3:38 PM EST

@ViciaScience @teachingofsci yep @ocr_science have adopted ASE language of measurement across all GCSE AS/A levels now @ocr_exams #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:38 PM EST

#asechat Worth a look #GCSE https://t.co/jLtSdUSZLt

opsonise Feb 8 @ 3:35 PM EST

@damianainscough I’ve pooled together resources from different schools;making free website. #asechat looks like this https://t.co/14fVnMZEgc

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:38 PM EST

@ocr_science @ofqual cheers! #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:38 PM EST

Can you manage to distinguish Gateway and 21C in 140 chrctrs? #ASEChat https://t.co/cM0Kh4D40S

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:34 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough ... we divided this up slightly differently for our two suites #Gateway and #C21 #ASEchat

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:38 PM EST

@A_Weatherall Yes - we got that memo - apparently 96% should get 5 or above according to SLT *dreaming* #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:38 PM EST

@damianainscough people like them as a prop in early days of new spec, then will use proff judgement as time and results emerge #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:39 PM EST

@ayme_louise coz science is hard to write them for! ? ;) #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:39 PM EST

@CazGerrard they have literally no idea do they? #asechat

hrogerson Feb 8 @ 3:39 PM EST

@bio_kitty @teachingofsci @ocr_science @OCR_Exams looking forward to the language of maths too - @ViciaScience have ABs seen it? #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:39 PM EST

@hrogerson @damianainscough @A_Weatherall we are splitting our SOW into I know statements and I can statements #asechat

ayme_louise Feb 8 @ 3:40 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 probably, but incredibly frustrating when trying to map out progression #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:40 PM EST

#asechat 20 MINUTES TO GO - DO YOU HAVE ANY IMPORTANT AND/OR UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR AWARDING BODIES AS THEY HAVE KINDLY JOINED US?

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:41 PM EST

@A_Weatherall When we got the email, we all laughed our heads off *never gonna happen* #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:41 PM EST

@chemray @hrogerson @damianainscough think I'm going to reboot grand plan... #asechat https://t.co/SxpV7GlVOy coincide with @teachingofsci

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:41 PM EST

@ayme_louise is that a demand from your school? Grade 9 students will… Grade 8 students will… #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:41 PM EST

@CazGerrard did you email that back with evidence why not #asechat it's going to be a bloodbath out there in 2 years time.

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:42 PM EST

@hrogerson ABs have been involved as writing of Language of Mathematics in Science has progressed. Great support! #LoMIS #ASEChat

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:42 PM EST

@damianainscough am considering planning using a wiki or similar next year - could it be a vehicle for collaboration? :) #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:42 PM EST

@zbukhari197 sounds like you are doing the right thing though #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:43 PM EST

@cleverfiend @damianainscough yes. good plan.#asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:43 PM EST

#asechat What are your plans for KS3?

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:43 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @CazGerrard I believe we refer to them as aspirational targets! #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:43 PM EST

@chemray @CazGerrard @hrogerson @damianainscough we're sticking with EdExcel because decision difficult :) #asechat

ayme_louise Feb 8 @ 3:44 PM EST

#asechat https://t.co/Jl2aHUm7T6

ayme_louise Feb 8 @ 3:43 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 sort of yes, trying to get a similar thing for all subjects for 'consistency' in assessment + using numbers from year7

Science_HOD Feb 8 @ 3:44 PM EST

@damianainscough I have currently built my ks3 around a solo taxonomy and want to look at the Aqa scheme. #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:44 PM EST

I think it's going to come as a massive shock to many - I hope it doesn't. The consequences are huge. #asechat https://t.co/Bt3SLzGzQK

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:42 PM EST

@A_Weatherall I hope SLTs around the country understand the statistical award in terms of numbers of kids hitting floor target grade 5.

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:44 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat #GatewayScience - traditional conceptual; C21Scence - context led & splits DfE criteria into teacher language bites

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:44 PM EST

@theASE Are producing LOMIS to support teaching of mathematics up to GCSE Look out for free pdf soon #asechat https://t.co/9ljmmrBPmz

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:42 PM EST

@hrogerson ABs have been involved as writing of Language of Mathematics in Science has progressed. Great support! #LoMIS #ASEChat

zbukhari197 Feb 8 @ 3:45 PM EST

We are planning it carefully... only teaching first 18 lessons of bio/chem/phy with the required pracs #asechat https://t.co/wXnZdg4ti7

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:42 PM EST

@zbukhari197 sounds like you are doing the right thing though #asechat

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:45 PM EST

@Science_HOD @damianainscough We are following AQA - their advisors are great ;) #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:45 PM EST

Do people have concerns about resourcing (labs, equipment, time, consumables) the required practical activities? #ASEChat

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:46 PM EST

@CazGerrard @A_Weatherall only four levels? Check the supply agencies for a Miss M Poppins, you might need her skills #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:46 PM EST

@ViciaScience yes, because we don't know the plan yet because it's not been accredited #asechat

CazGerrard Feb 8 @ 3:46 PM EST

@ViciaScience Yes - along with lack of room, no radiation training or safe storage .............. #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:47 PM EST

@ViciaScience excited the practicals are about doing practicals not spending hours 'writing it up' #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:47 PM EST

@ViciaScience Early days? #asechat Have heard of some minor issues, yes.

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:47 PM EST

@ocr_science looking forward to seeing support for teachers including mathematical skills in context #ASEChat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:47 PM EST

#asechat I know that for required pracs, there are ways to avoid buying lots of expensive kit eg ripple tanks.

aerochallenge Feb 8 @ 3:48 PM EST

#asechat 16-18 yr old students interested in STEM should consider entering Schools Aerospace Challenge #enrichment

cleverfiend Feb 8 @ 3:48 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @ViciaScience some of it I'll borrow and the rest I won't teach practically. It's that simple :( #asechat

peterslade Feb 8 @ 3:48 PM EST

.@damianainscough Not sure if @AQA are represented tonight, so here’s a plug for their KS3 Science Syllabus https://t.co/XsxcRUEWyf #asechat

ayme_louise Feb 8 @ 3:48 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 that is what I am trying to do whilst frequently mentioning no grade descriptors in drafts #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:48 PM EST

@damianainscough @theASE is this available yet - I'm training the maths department in Physics equations next term. #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:48 PM EST

@Science_HOD Interesting. For how long have you used SOLO? #asechat

SteveTeachPhys Feb 8 @ 3:49 PM EST

@damianainscough since moving to CIE iGCSE, hard problem solving & all equations memorised, we've worked to raise KS3 expectations #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:49 PM EST

@hrogerson #asechat the Royal Statistical Society report (language of maths) - this has fed into A level maths for all sciences

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:49 PM EST

@ViciaScience issue with physics: buying blocks for shc calculations, waves kit which could be skipped if no KS5 until now #asechat

RSC_EiC Feb 8 @ 3:49 PM EST

Now that we're talking GCSE science practicals, you may find this useful: https://t.co/SesymYZZ19 #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:49 PM EST

@CazGerrard A challenge to prepare governors/ heads for implications of new courses - Can AOs assist? #ASEChat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:50 PM EST

#asechat 10 to go. Any questions for Awarding Body colleagues?

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:50 PM EST

@peterslade @AQA They aren't so thanks. #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:50 PM EST

#asechat by the way, here's a link to all the specs I did last July. https://t.co/kR1j6mwuJT

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:51 PM EST

@ViciaScience and are anyone’s lab techs under threat? #asechat only have 8 prices to do, therefore don’t need as much labtechtime ...

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:51 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @theASE No - very soon - gone to formatting. #asechat @ViciaScience may know

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:51 PM EST

Should be really refreshing to doing and talking about more practical without lots of writing and marking #ASEChat https://t.co/jt2xo0W2rp

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:47 PM EST

@ViciaScience excited the practicals are about doing practicals not spending hours 'writing it up' #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:51 PM EST

@ViciaScience @cazgerrard if you don't have a named Science governor, this is the time to define one and brief thoroughly! #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST

@damianainscough yes, were AB all happy with the new content structure from the DfE esp the triple only content? Ask for changes? #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST

@ViciaScience our students are really enjoying the lab books at A level (we had a glowing monitoring visit too) might intro at GCSE #asechat

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST

@A_Weatherall #ASEchat we are writing GCSE Maths Handbook as science for maths teachers & vice versa. Lots of science context to use in Math

RSC_EiC Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST

Want to compare the draft GCSE science specifications from the four main exam boards? You'll want this: https://t.co/wtvGC0Dj7q #asechat

teachingofsci Feb 8 @ 3:53 PM EST

#asechat @stemlearning produced these lists for KS5: https://t.co/irXSR0Lmag - let them know how useful KS4 would be!

Newmanphysics Feb 8 @ 3:53 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @ViciaScience #asechat a lot of SLT in sixth form initially interpreted 12 practicals as meaning this. It actually makes more

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:53 PM EST

@ocr_science yes, I see it as an opportunity to embed much needed maths in the science context #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:53 PM EST

#asechat Well, it has been a full chat - hard to keep up. 5+ mins to go. Any burning issues?

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:54 PM EST

@ocr_science @A_Weatherall I've used the A level ones loads, so will be really useful to have a GCSE one. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:54 PM EST

not prices! Practicals sheesh #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:54 PM EST

@kathrynbooth23 @ocr_science yes, got that thanks :) #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:54 PM EST

#asechat https://t.co/fIhz4zglOW

kathrynbooth23 Feb 8 @ 3:54 PM EST

@ocr_science @A_Weatherall Edexcel maths guide is here: https://t.co/5vXm3390dk will complement LoM

bio_kitty Feb 8 @ 3:55 PM EST

@ocr_science @A_Weatherall & we've done maths skills handbooks & practical skills handbooks at A Level too #ASEChat #positiveaboutpractical

collaborat_ed Feb 8 @ 3:55 PM EST

Is this refraction? https://t.co/m9tuk9bBvg #asechat #scichat #ukedchat #ozscied

ocr_science Feb 8 @ 3:55 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat teachers love the freedom of PAGs but lots of younger teachers conditioned & frightened to give up "core practicals"

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:55 PM EST

@kathrynbooth23 @CazGerrard Also SCORE set out practical benchmarks to help schools with resourcing #ASEChat https://t.co/5wNWvdS3m7

Newmanphysics Feb 8 @ 3:55 PM EST

@teachingofsci #asechat good work has been done for A level @TakeOnPhysics on https://t.co/VoDgGaAriS and in our IOP workshops on cheap kit

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:56 PM EST

@teachingofsci @chemray please tell us how you achieved this phenomenon because my group's lab books are a shambles! #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:56 PM EST

A lot to commend this idea - from year 7? #ASEChat https://t.co/gjQElO8elu

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST

@ViciaScience our students are really enjoying the lab books at A level (we had a glowing monitoring visit too) might intro at GCSE #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:56 PM EST

@teachingofsci @ViciaScience @cazgerrard use @WTeducation Questions for governors to support science govs https://t.co/GbbhEHm9Dy #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:57 PM EST

#ASEchat Suggest a more focussed chat in future re new GCSEs. Thoughts? Good to have open discussion though.

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:57 PM EST

@chemray @ViciaScience did you do my thing https://t.co/XvINQGYA97 #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:57 PM EST

@doc_kristy @teachingofsci we gave them some guidelines, dont have to be perfect, the students have taken pride in them though #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:58 PM EST

All schools should have one - but will we need to share major items? #ASEChat https://t.co/eFOMQomqFp

zbukhari197 Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST

@ViciaScience Yes, it is more planning on the go and trying to resource as we go along. Just bought an air track for Newton 2nd Law prac

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:58 PM EST

#asechat @ViciaScience Yes, hear lab books have been VERY popular at A level

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 8 @ 3:59 PM EST

@damianainscough @ViciaScience good, really glad to here it - it worked wonders the previous couple of years with my students #asechat

chemray Feb 8 @ 3:59 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @ViciaScience we gave them blank hard backed, but thinking of doing something more structured for GCSE #asechat

Newmanphysics Feb 8 @ 3:59 PM EST

@teachingofsci @TakeOnPhysics #asechat Also great work by @alomshaha and others https://t.co/mNUcfMHgS0 on the A level compulsory pracs.

doc_kristy Feb 8 @ 3:59 PM EST

@damianainscough @ViciaScience anyone using eLab books? #asechat

damianainscough Feb 8 @ 3:59 PM EST

#asechat Yes, growing need for local school networking https://t.co/jq5oJXWYQE

ViciaScience Feb 8 @ 3:58 PM EST
All schools should have one - but will we need to share major items? #ASEChat https://t.co/eFOMQomqFp
- zbukhari197 Feb 8 @ 3:52 PM EST
  
  @ViciaScience Yes, it is more planning on the go and trying to resource as we go along. Just bought an air track for Newton 2nd Law prac