#edchatME Archive
A Maine-based Twitter presence for a network of educators everywhere.
Monday March 6, 2017
8:30 PM EST
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Welcome to
#EdChatME
! Tonight we talk about feedback and grading.
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Rik in MA, Facilitator of Learning with
#HSMath
, joining
#edchatme
for probably the first time. Feedback is vital FOR Learning!!
participatechat
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#edchatME
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/ghraQFuxbx
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
@DrewetteCard
Hi Matt! Ready to inspire?
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Welcome to the
#edchatme
party, Rik! SO glad and honored you’ve joined us tonight!Your expertise and guidance will be most welcome
In reply to @RoweRikW
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Tell us who you are, what you do, where you do it, & ur best/worst grade experience
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
As always! You?
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Thrilled to see
@JoyKirr
getting in on the
#Feedback
action in
#edchatme
tonight!
In reply to @JoyKirr
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Count on it!
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
As always! You?
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Joy from IL, co-moderator tonight of
#edchatme
, loving that my students are not receiving marks from me this year! NARRATIVE FEEDBACK rocks!
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Hi my
#EdChatME
peeps! Matt- Dir of Curric-Inst-Assmt fr/
@AOS94ME
ready for a deep feedback & grades convo!
In reply to @AOS94ME
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Feedback, rather than grading, is a staple in our weekly
#sblchat
.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Welcome to the
#edchatme
party, Rik! SO glad and honored you’ve joined us tonight!Your expertise and guidance will be most welcome
In reply to @RoweRikW
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
#edtechchat
, doing the Tweetdeck sidestep over to
#EdChatMe
for a conversation on grading and feedback. Have a great week.
GeoffCyr
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
K-5 Tech Integrator. Failing a test I knew I would fail in 11th grade helped me see how little they matter
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
It's the only way - there's no turning back now!
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Hi Tim!
#edchatme
In reply to @T_HEB
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Whats up, Geoff!!!
#edchatme
In reply to @GeoffCyr
djlessard2016
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Denise, HS Instructional Coach, Beaufort County South Carolina
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Joy, your presence in
#edchatme
tonight pulled me in!
@JoyKirr
In reply to @JoyKirr
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
It's the only way - there's no turning back now!
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hi Denise! Welcome!!!
#edchatme
In reply to @djlessard2016
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
4th & 5th grade T in Maine. Given a D in 4th grade math, horrified. Turned out T averaged the wrong line in the book.
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Jon Pratt, Asst. Head f/ Academics
@foxcroftacademy
. Worst: "15%" graded as "C" on Organic Chem test. Loved subject, hated class.
#EdChatME
In reply to @foxcroftacademy
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hi Denise!
#edchatme
In reply to @djlessard2016
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Jennie Tidwell. 7th grade ELA in Austin, TX. Receiving a B on my final college assignment in ELA methods.
#EdChatMe
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Q1: What is the purpose of grading, and does Grading meet that purpose?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Q1: What is the purpose of grading, and does Grading meet that purpose?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Hi
#edchatme
! Erin, 9th and 12th gr Eng. T at Oxford Hills HS. Worst was being scolded for not having "enough" grades in my grade book. >:(
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Worst grade: a check-minus-minus. No idea what it means, but it was below sucking.
#edchatme
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Jennifer from Ga. I teach AP Lit and freshman English. Summative assessments when students are still learning stresses me out!
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Or was it?
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Worst grade: a check-minus-minus. No idea what it means, but it was below sucking.
#edchatme
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Well, hello
#edchatME
! Emily here - Dir of Teach&Learning at Hebron Academy in ME. Looking forward to this convo about feedback and grading
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Jess, HS Principal Madison ME, worst grading experience as a new teacher was assigning too many things to grade!!
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Good point… I really don’t know… ;P
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Q1: The purpose of grading is to sort students. Sure, it meets that purpose. Grading is NOT assessment.
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Q1: What is the purpose of grading, and does Grading meet that purpose?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Hi Emily! Welcome!
#edchatme
In reply to @EmilyGBonis
watertankmath
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Another big night!
#cdnedchat
#nyedchat
#edchatme
#colchat
#ksedchat
#msmathchat
#aledchat
#iledchat
#tosachat
#math
Hope 2 see u all Tues!
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Q1: I've heard that the purpose of grades is simply to report SKILLS - to parents, mostly.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
I'm Andy, a tech director in Maine. Worst was grades based on reputation & relationship w teacher. Also could be best experience.
#EdChatME
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Then
#STOPIT
.
#Humor
#edchatme
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Jess, HS Principal Madison ME, worst grading experience as a new teacher was assigning too many things to grade!!
#edchatme
scitechyEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A1 too easy
@DrewetteCard
to keep score
#edchatme
if you are playing the game of school to win Yes
In reply to @DrewetteCard
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1 - Grading is often about Communication to Ss, Ps, other Ts, and colleges.
#edchatme
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Q1: What is the purpose of grading, and does Grading meet that purpose?
#EdChatME
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1: grades should communicate the level of student understanding, but most often do NOT!
#edchatME
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1: Grading should tell Ss how well they've met the performance criteria. I find trad. grs don't do this as well as rubric scores.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Wait…
@scitechyEDU
is here too?? SO MANU
#EDUROCKSTARS
IN DA
#EDCHATME
HIZZOUSE!!!
#honored
#deepdt
In reply to @scitechyEDU
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
#edchatme
The only reason to assess is to figure out what to do next. Do grades help that?
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Grading allows us to say "this kid is college ready." Seems like we are locked into this college-admission-driven system.
#edchatme
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1: Give kids feedback; unfortunately, a number, or even a description on a rubric, do not accomplish this in a meaningful way.
#edchatMe
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Grades are better described as part of a game than actual assessment.
#EdChatME
In reply to @scitechyEDU, @DrewetteCard
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
.
@andrewtwallace
Reminds me of a bad video...
https://t.co/f9PjniYIs5
that some teachers consider TRUE! Eeek...!
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Joining the Chat from Vancouver Island! A1: grading needs to be reassessed. S's understand in their own ways, & show it diff. too
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Jennifer, H.S. Math.
#edchatme
: Best grades were the ones I worked hardest for, & which were fairly earned. Worst? Arbitrary & subjective.
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Agreed. Not if behaviors are included or anything other than evidence-based learning.
#edchatme
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1: grades should communicate the level of student understanding, but most often do NOT!
#edchatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Agreed. Much grading has become a mix of skills, habits, and skewed numbers.
#edchatme
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A1: grades should communicate the level of student understanding, but most often do NOT!
#edchatME
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Hi Jennifer!
#edchatme
In reply to @MichaelisMath
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1) the purpose of grading is, at its core, to show how Ss differ from each other so we can put them in boxes for easy management
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1 Purpose of graes is to represent S understanding & progress. Different scales for diff Ts, diff values makes for moving targets
#edchatme
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1: purpose of grading should be feedback many times Ss see it as judgement....
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
OUCH!
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard
GeoffCyr
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1 Traditional grades are a tool for Ts to incentivize and reward compliance. Oh, and assess learning. Kind of.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Hi Brittany! Thanks for joining us.
#edchatme
In reply to @bm_leonard
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1 If grading is to rank students for an antiquated system that most colleges don't care about any more, then heck yes it works!
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
IMO, we should NOT be comparing Students with grades...
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1) the purpose of grading is, at its core, to show how Ss differ from each other so we can put them in boxes for easy management
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Shots. Fired. Early.
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Agreed.
#edchatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1) the purpose of grading is, at its core, to show how Ss differ from each other so we can put them in boxes for easy management
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1 Purpose? To give Ss & Ps the "gist" of learning process and/or outcomes. That said, many Ss view as punishment/reward.
#EdChatME
ETSU90
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Alice middle school math teacher jumping in to
#edchatme
while watching
@ETSU_MBB
so I may be a little distracted
In reply to @ETSU_MBB
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
For sure! They hurt!! Yikes!
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
EXPLOSIVE Conversation Pending in
#edchatme
TONIGHT!
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Shots. Fired. Early.
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
And IMO, your O is the right O.
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1: Grading provides a form of feedback and communication on growth to Ss and families if done right. But that is a big IF.
#EdChatME
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Feel that grades do not give feedback. Feedback gives feedback. How do Ss perceive the marks/grades/scores?
#EdChatMe
#COLchat
debwhite
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Two of these well-informed teens (the twins) are my former students! They're also singers, actors, and compassionate human beings
#edchatme
SenatorCollins
Mar 6 @ 5:06 PM EST
Well-informed teens from Bangor Congregation Beth El discussed prison reform, LGBT & disability rights, & support for Israel w/ me
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
#HeavySigh
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
And IMO, your O is the right O.
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
So true. And letter grades don't mean the same thing to everybody, which complicates it even more.
#edchatme
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1: purpose of grading should be feedback many times Ss see it as judgement....
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Students don't look at the feedback when there is a score / mark alongside.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Feel that grades do not give feedback. Feedback gives feedback. How do Ss perceive the marks/grades/scores?
#EdChatMe
#COLchat
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
@andrewtwallace
not sure all colleges are on the same page about this....
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1 If grading is to rank students for an antiquated system that most colleges don't care about any more, then heck yes it works!
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
#edchatme
A1 The purpose of G&R should be to inform the learner of their strengths and challenges. Also where they need to apply more effort
ETSU90
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1 a standardized way of communicating Ss performace & it isn't working
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Agreed. We should focus on the Feedback and minimize the grades.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Students don't look at the feedback when there is a score / mark alongside.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Feel that grades do not give feedback. Feedback gives feedback. How do Ss perceive the marks/grades/scores?
#EdChatMe
#COLchat
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A1
#edchatme
Pls not to rank and sort our kids, we've done that for far too long!
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Students view grades as punishment/reward because they are used as punishment/reward-- even if this is not teachers' intent.
#edchatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1 Purpose? To give Ss & Ps the "gist" of learning process and/or outcomes. That said, many Ss view as punishment/reward.
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Key words "should be." Ask the parents, and they think differently. Sadly.
#edchatme
In reply to @briley8557
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
#OUCH
#edchatme
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Students view grades as punishment/reward because they are used as punishment/reward-- even if this is not teachers' intent.
#edchatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A1 Purpose? To give Ss & Ps the "gist" of learning process and/or outcomes. That said, many Ss view as punishment/reward.
#EdChatME
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
If the feedback doesn't come in the formative stages, what's the point?
#EdChatMe
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
#edchatme
A1: grades = communication, to different audiences, about what students know/understand/can do.
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Everything is a formative stage!
#edchatme
#pbe
#notimelimits
#nolimitstolearning
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
If the feedback doesn't come in the formative stages, what's the point?
#EdChatMe
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1) Grades don’t work. They encourage learning to stop.We want Ss to be lifelong learners, but a focus on grades works against it.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Yes, my experiences have taught me that. Embedding feedback in narrative form or, better yet, face-to-face is more powerful.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Students don't look at the feedback when there is a score / mark alongside.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Feel that grades do not give feedback. Feedback gives feedback. How do Ss perceive the marks/grades/scores?
#EdChatMe
#COLchat
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1 BC is turning more and more to portfolios as evidence of learning, interesting to think of what uni app. will look like
#Edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
#gradingpurposemicdropmoment
#edchatme
In reply to @UVEIconnect
scitechyEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
you R2 kind
@DrewetteCard
Im popping around 4 brainbreak as Ive some workshop proposals Im crafting @ the moment
#edchatme
@jgough
u around?
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @jgough
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
Imagine Learning with out meaningful and timely feedback?
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1) Grades don’t work. They encourage learning to stop.We want Ss to be lifelong learners, but a focus on grades works against it.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
Some college views here...
https://t.co/L9zGtjwSYY
They are shifting!
#edchatme
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1 BC is turning more and more to portfolios as evidence of learning, interesting to think of what uni app. will look like
#Edchatme
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
#edchatme
A1 grades translate demonstrations into something that can be computed, because ... er ... um...
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q2: What are some of the pitfalls of grading? What solutions have you seen to these?
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q2: What are some of the pitfalls of grading? What solutions have you seen to these?
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Ss impact is what matters - maybe part of improvement might be better instruction on interpreting & using grades/feedback.
#EdChatME
In reply to @T_HEB
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q2: What are some of the pitfalls of grading? What solutions have you seen to these?
#EdChatME
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Would love to see more process portfolios as evidence of learning!
#EdchatME
In reply to @bm_leonard
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Grades can put a stop to authentic inquiry if students get hung up on the numbers - which they absolutely do.
#edchatME
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
@DrewetteCard
HMW encourage Ss to continue in their learning and improve when they are just after a grade and want to be done?
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard
dmswenton
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
@EmilyGBonis
i'm late! got distracted by...grading. i think about the amt time by myself assessing rather than in convo with ss
#edchatme
In reply to @EmilyGBonis
SparkyTeaching
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
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#nyedchat
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DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Yes. This. All of it. And then some.
#edchatme
#colchat
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Would love to see more process portfolios as evidence of learning!
#EdchatME
In reply to @bm_leonard
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
Q2: Pitfalls - zeros, extra credit, grading habits instead of skills. Narrative feedback for these works.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
True. When grading is the center of the class then S understanding & active learning is at the periphery. Reverse order!
#edchatme
#colchat
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
When focus is on grades and not feedback for improvement Ss are just playing the grade game and not really engaging in learning
In reply to @T_HEB
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
I've used FreshGrade as an ePortfolio for elementary, students and parents love seeing their learning and feedback!
#Edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
That’s all culture. Ts & As need to live and breathe the importance of feedback vs grades. That’s step #1
#edchatme
#colchat
In reply to @jessicawrd3
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
#narrativefeedbackmicdropmoment
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
Q2: Pitfalls - zeros, extra credit, grading habits instead of skills. Narrative feedback for these works.
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2: The arbitrary nature of every step. How many points is a question worth? How many do you need to pass? WHAT ARE POINTS?
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2 - A common pitfall of grading is when Ts deduct points for behaviors, late learning. Grades should be tied only to Standards.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q2: What are some of the pitfalls of grading? What solutions have you seen to these?
#EdChatME
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2: Students only look at the grade and respond emotionally. Learning stops. No revision. No growth. Then we all move on.
#edchatme
dmswenton
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
when i do give content assessment i structure it in a way to highlight what they know rather than what they don't
#edchatme
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2: This is tough (b/c grades don't work). Looking forward to reading others' answers.
#EdchatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Q2: What are some of the pitfalls of grading? What solutions have you seen to these?
#EdChatME
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
Agreed. Additionally, frequent check ins as faculty to make sure grading/feedback is consistent. Occasional double scoring.
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Ss impact is what matters - maybe part of improvement might be better instruction on interpreting & using grades/feedback.
#EdChatME
In reply to @T_HEB
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
Some of us have that culture now... YIPPEE!!
https://t.co/qwTuBY6WGL
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @jessicawrd3
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
Good point : )
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Everything is a formative stage!
#edchatme
#pbe
#notimelimits
#nolimitstolearning
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
If the feedback doesn't come in the formative stages, what's the point?
#EdChatMe
MicheleCorbat
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
Love that
#edchatme
is focusing on Feedback! We will include ?s about feedback to teachers on their practice/craft on
#COLchat
at 9PM ET.
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
I see you here,
@Robbynadeau
. Lurk away… but also join in if you want!
#edu584
#edchatme
In reply to @Robbynadeau
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A2: Biggest pitfall: hurt feelings for kids : ( Hurt kids can't learn. Solutions: More communication throughout learning process
#EdChatMe
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A2: S's learn on a continuum, they can make huge leaps & still be a "c" student, other methods can show those leaps, grading can't
#Edchatme
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A2: Pitfalls = Ts grading too many assignments, Ss just want the grade and be done, grading skills, points off for lateness..
#edchatme
jesslahey
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A1 Letter Grades Deserve an 'F' - The Atlantic
https://t.co/ay1gs2reZA
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
BAM! I'm with you, sister! ;D Those points are so arbitrary and annoying to me!
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
Q2: pitfalls - no allowing room for growth - grades that are "permanent" and can't be improved upon
#edchatME
millerpEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A1 There's an important distinction between assessment and evaluation. One supports learning the other is only good for reporting.
#edchatme
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Q1: What is the purpose of grading, and does Grading meet that purpose?
#EdChatME
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
#edchatme
@jessicawrd3
is on to something. HMW make everything we do in schools about learning and not about "sucking up" to a grade!
In reply to @jessicawrd3
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
Agree re culture, but does it have to be "vs" for feedback and grades? Might they work together?
#EdChatME
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @jessicawrd3
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
As a young T my pitfall was grading everything. Wanted to show S effort but ended up increasing S stress & becoming overwhelmed.
#edchatme
Mr_Oldfield
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
#EdchatME
A2: Distorts communication big time. Solution-Figure out purpose of grading, what prac fall inside/outside of that purpose?
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
True that.
#edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
GeoffCyr
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A2 Pitfalls of traditional grading = students are punished for what they don't know... yet
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
The
#Feedback
we provide Learners is: Blue-Exemplary Green-Proficient Yellow-Approaching Red-Beginning
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Yes they can. But I’m feeling confrontational tonight… so vs it is!
#fightclub
#brokefirstrule
#edchatme
#oops
In reply to @jonpratt, @jessicawrd3
scitechyEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Objective Grading easy= facts back it up irrefutable :) Subjective Grading full of landmines
#EdChatME
So just stick w/ Objective Grading ;)
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Exactly! And they're MEANINGLESS!
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A2 Pitfall = a single zero destroys and average and masks true learning and progress.
#edchatme
#colchat
ETSU90
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A2 Ss giving up b/c there is no way to pass. Offer retakes, corrections,choices that allow a S to de,most rate mastery
#edchatme
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
We didn't become teachers to hand out points!
#EdChatMe
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
BAM! I'm with you, sister! ;D Those points are so arbitrary and annoying to me!
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29
JanetChowMSc
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
Narrative alone doesn't tell story. Need 2 explore lang that communicates clear understandings..Takes practice
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
I've learned too,
@T_HEB
#edchatme
In reply to @T_HEB
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
As a young T my pitfall was grading everything. Wanted to show S effort but ended up increasing S stress & becoming overwhelmed.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A2) a pitfall is anything that is included that alters the measured construct.Another is if the grade can easily be misinterpreted
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A2 the arbitrariness of the scale is troublesome. Is 0-100 based on anything real (this is a real question, not snark)?
#edchatme
EduGladiators
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
💥
#EduGladiators
LIVE podcast in 10 min w/
@maverikcrq
on DOK!💥 ⏯
https://t.co/bX2CBRxWKz
#neisdpln
#GCHchat
#edchatme
#SXSWEdu
#ALedchat
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A2: I was teaching in the UK and grades are all Ts care about, fun & inquiry was completely absent, yet so necessary 4 learners
#Edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
#edchatme
When the idea of (failure and improvement) to the nth is penalized and not celebrated, the system does not work for our Ss.
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
Or to stifle the learning with meaningless grades infected by deducted points for this and that.
#STOPIT
#edchatme
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
We didn't become teachers to hand out points!
#EdChatMe
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
BAM! I'm with you, sister! ;D Those points are so arbitrary and annoying to me!
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
And this is what happens when we use zeroes as threats to leverage participation and learning against sports and activities.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A2 Pitfall = a single zero destroys and average and masks true learning and progress.
#edchatme
#colchat
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
Edu based on factory system, make workers, earn a dollar, 100 pennies is a dollar, 100 is A+. Did I get it
@andrewtwallace
?
#edchatme
#snark
In reply to @andrewtwallace
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
Hey
#COLchat
friends: we’re talking feedback on
#edchatme
until 9:30. How about joining us and doing some double-chatting?
#buildthetribe
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
ZEROES serve no purpose in our grade book prior to the end of the marking period.
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A2 Pitfall = a single zero destroys and average and masks true learning and progress.
#edchatme
#colchat
Mr_Oldfield
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
#edchatme
Ts who are ineffective at reaching Ss turn to good & bad grades to "motivate".
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2 Pitfalls? Abstraction and generalization. Do Ss understand status? how to improve? for specific knowledge/skill components?
#EdChatME
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Yes. A+ for you. :)
#edchatME
In reply to @T_HEB, @andrewtwallace
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
ETSU90
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
I agree, yet it is what so many Ps are used to that change is challenging
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A3 - Practice (or HW, no, not that...) that's graded should never appear in the grade book in my opinion. It's only Practice.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
#edchatme
Robbynadeau
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
If the grade is proficiency, then yes...
In reply to @jonpratt, @DrewetteCard, @jessicawrd3
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A3: Literally everything that is not a summative assessment. Formative assessments should not be judged.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
remember the
#edchatme
tag when joining in! Bring that Northern Maine genius!
#bringit
In reply to @Robbynadeau
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
A3: If I had to pick ONE thing? Homework.
#EdChatME
. But there are others...
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
A2 pitfall=reification: the illusion that the symbol (grade) is reality. "But what did I REALLY get, Mr. CHAPIN?"
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
A3 Always had issue with "participation" grades that only measure one kind of participation - speaking out.
#edchatme
#colchat
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
I have the exact opposite approach/experience. 0s get immediate "let me fix that!" attention, rather than waiting. 1/2
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
https://t.co/Juk8asknRJ
#EdChatMe
ETSU90
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
I agree, yet it is what so many Ps are used to that change is challenging
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
As long as the ZERO does not stay in the grade book.
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
I have the exact opposite approach/experience. 0s get immediate "let me fix that!" attention, rather than waiting. 1/2
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3) Anything in ink. Everything should be in pencil.
#redosFTW
#celebratemistakes
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
2/2 Importantly: they are NOT permanent. They are "here is the worst possible case" alerts.
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3: Use a 0% category for formative assessments--homework, practice, etc. Give feedback only to promote growth.
#edchatme
millerpEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A2 Learners (young and old) see a grade as an end point. What do you do with a 72? Feedback supports continued learning.
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3: Really, I don't like ANY grades in the grade book until my school calls for it. Let students prove their grade based on evid.
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
@MichaelisMath
@RoweRikW
I second this. Ss sometimes take FOREVER to make up work if they don't have that pressure.
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
I have the exact opposite approach/experience. 0s get immediate "let me fix that!" attention, rather than waiting. 1/2
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
We assess everything, but do not need to grade much, if anything. IMO
#edchatme
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
How do you feel about process? Should the writing process be assessed, for example?
In reply to @RoweRikW
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
hahaha...see Part 2 of my tweet! 😀
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
I LOVELOVELOVE the thought of proving based on evidence and not relying on a letter/number/symbol!
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
A3: only summative should count in gradebook, S can correct formatives themselves or w/ T, formative should be about the learning
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
This is how I handle my
#UNEedu
class. Nothing is graded until the end. I will give feedback as many times as a S requests it.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3: Really, I don't like ANY grades in the grade book until my school calls for it. Let students prove their grade based on evid.
#edchatme
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
#edchatme
A3 ONE THING? How about NUMBERS?
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
@bm_leonard
@RoweRikW
If we are providing constant feedback, then we don’t need to put many grades.
#edchatme
#colchat
In reply to @bm_leonard, @RoweRikW
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Right - in PBE grade abstracts a coordinate of expectation / performance matrix.
#EdChatME
In reply to @Robbynadeau, @DrewetteCard, @jessicawrd3
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Swcomdary benefit: instead of late-term unhappy surprises, grades only can go UP when Ss fix the zero!
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
A3 - Not in the grade book: Points for: Kleenex Supplies Bonus Extra Credit for pet name
#STOPIT
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
I love it, too! Giving only narrative feedback has encouraged my Ss to revise more & never talk about points or extra credit!
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
I LOVELOVELOVE the thought of proving based on evidence and not relying on a letter/number/symbol!
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
But isn't success, success? Should a lesser result really impact the value of the final work completed?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
#edchatme
Q3 Anything formative. And it should all be formative.
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Thank you!
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
@bm_leonard
@RoweRikW
If we are providing constant feedback, then we don’t need to put many grades.
#edchatme
#colchat
In reply to @bm_leonard, @RoweRikW
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
A3: Any formative assessment, including practice aka homework.
#edchatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
#cleanchalkboardforbonuspointsmicdropmoment
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
A3 - Not in the grade book: Points for: Kleenex Supplies Bonus Extra Credit for pet name
#STOPIT
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Oh, you're making me cry! No points for seeing movies or attending meetings or watching TV, either!
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Just
#STOPIT
@JoyKirr
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Oh, you're making me cry! No points for seeing movies or attending meetings or watching TV, either!
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
I mean, is it tracking dev. of skills over time? If yes, you need that early data. But it doesn't need to count for much.
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
But isn't success, success? Should a lesser result really impact the value of the final work completed?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
This is based on the wider assumption that grades are the foundation for S accountability. Should no longer be the case.
#edchatme
#colchat
ShackKyle
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
I constantly struggle with this. Hard to find line between student accountability and low stakes student practice.
scitechyEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
a3 participation grades
#edchatme
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Beware of the decaying average, still hurts....
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thank you! These are OUT of the grade book!
#edchatme
scitechyEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
a3 participation grades
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
What about if I add a Q on the test to tell me a joke, and if I laugh you get 10 points. Does that work?
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW, @JoyKirr
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
Here's my journey in MS ELA =
https://t.co/0XuQSsT6dT
Reading, writing, and grammar (in writing).
#edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
#Speechless
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
What about if I add a Q on the test to tell me a joke, and if I laugh you get 10 points. Does that work?
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW, @JoyKirr
GeoffCyr
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
Agreed. I think the larger question in PBE is figuring out when proficiency has been achieved.
#edchatme
In reply to @briley8557
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
SWEET! We need that in higher ed., so teachers can try it in elementary and secondary school!
#edchatme
In reply to @T_HEB
MrP_tchr
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
Sometimes my participation grades are showing you copying notes and writing problems we do as a class.
#edchatme
#colchat
In reply to @T_HEB
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
Yes! I just had a twitter convo w/
@mamacoop4
the other day about this! Mode & Most Recent = Prof Judgment IMO
#edchatme
In reply to @jessicawrd3, @mamacoop4
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @RoweRikW
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
#edchatme
@eringobragh29
certainly demonstrates S growth over time, but should the final judgement be diminished because of earlier work?
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
I mean, is it tracking dev. of skills over time? If yes, you need that early data. But it doesn't need to count for much.
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
But isn't success, success? Should a lesser result really impact the value of the final work completed?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
GeoffCyr
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
#pointsforcoveringyourtextbookshouldtotallystaythough
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr, @RoweRikW
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
HAHA!
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr, @RoweRikW
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
Feedback took many forms. Written, face-to-face, etc and final grade based on portfolio of iterative work
@dmswenton
#edchatme
#colchat
In reply to @dmswenton
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
A3 - Anything that is not evidence of learning needs to be excluded from the grade book.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Q3: What is one thing you feel does not need to be added to the grade book?
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Q4: What are different types of feedback (instead of grades) you find useful?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Q4: What are different types of feedback (instead of grades) you find useful?
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Q4: What are different types of feedback (instead of grades) you find useful?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
No, I'm seriously talking about keeping early scores on the books, but making them next to worthless.
#edchatme
#downwithpoints
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
#edchatme
@eringobragh29
certainly demonstrates S growth over time, but should the final judgement be diminished because of earlier work?
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
I mean, is it tracking dev. of skills over time? If yes, you need that early data. But it doesn't need to count for much.
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
But isn't success, success? Should a lesser result really impact the value of the final work completed?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
A4 -
#Feedback
that is meaningful to our Learners is anything timely and useful that realigns the learning to the Standard.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Q4: What are different types of feedback (instead of grades) you find useful?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi
#COLchat
! Matt-Dir of Curric-Inst-Assmt fr/
@AOS94ME
. Also co-moderating
#edchatme
tonight on Feedback & grading happening now till 9:30
In reply to @AOS94ME
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Aaaah, those sweet, sweet, excruciatingly detailed rubrics.
#edchatme
In reply to @GeoffCyr, @briley8557
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
Q4: Screencast videos of student writing, quality boosters from peers... Teach, model, and practice various feedback strategies.
#edchatme
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: I like audio comments on kid’s docs. They like listening to them! I use Talk & Comment ext.
https://t.co/Kv3RI4O6nW
#EdChatMe
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
#WhenTheTeacherWorksHarderThanTheStudents
....
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @GeoffCyr, @briley8557
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
#edchatme
@eringobragh29
to totally disagreeing with you, in fact, I think it is critical to have the older work saved 2 demo improvement.
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
No, I'm seriously talking about keeping early scores on the books, but making them next to worthless.
#edchatme
#downwithpoints
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
#edchatme
@eringobragh29
certainly demonstrates S growth over time, but should the final judgement be diminished because of earlier work?
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
I mean, is it tracking dev. of skills over time? If yes, you need that early data. But it doesn't need to count for much.
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
But isn't success, success? Should a lesser result really impact the value of the final work completed?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
We track the progress, but don't grade the progress until it reaches Proficiency or higher!
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
No, I'm seriously talking about keeping early scores on the books, but making them next to worthless.
#edchatme
#downwithpoints
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
#edchatme
@eringobragh29
certainly demonstrates S growth over time, but should the final judgement be diminished because of earlier work?
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
I mean, is it tracking dev. of skills over time? If yes, you need that early data. But it doesn't need to count for much.
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
But isn't success, success? Should a lesser result really impact the value of the final work completed?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Weigh the most recent scores more heavily?
#edchatme
briley8557
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
#edchatme
@T_HEB
We also need to be careful of the 1-4 system to be sure that Ss do not get penalized by those first attempts that are 1's
In reply to @T_HEB
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
A4 Meaningful feedback guiding students towards a goal. Presented face-to-face, embedded in work, in conjunction w S reflection
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
Thanks for this - I added it to "feedback tools" here:
https://t.co/iUnS3Z5L7M
I use screencasts - similar idea!
#edchatme
In reply to @mrsjntidwell
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
A4) Anything that goes beyond simple text-based feedback. Even sketches to help push ideas along often work better than text.
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
That's what I meant by keeping them on the books. You need to be able to see them, but why "average" the scores?
#edchatme
In reply to @briley8557
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
Evidence of true learning is when our Learners can defend, explain, compare and collaborate on the learning. Helpful?
#edchatme
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
This is something I struggle with all the time ... what, then, is "evidence of learning," true learning?
In reply to @RoweRikW
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
I like this guy.
#edchatme
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
Conversation.
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
#feedbacktoolsdocmicdropmoment
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
Thanks for this - I added it to "feedback tools" here:
https://t.co/iUnS3Z5L7M
I use screencasts - similar idea!
#edchatme
In reply to @mrsjntidwell
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
, is there a
#dtfieldguide
II in your future?
#edchatme
In reply to @dmswenton
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
A4:
#Feedback
can come in many forms, but critical step is that receiver of feedback ACTS on it.
#edchatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
Q4: What are different types of feedback (instead of grades) you find useful?
#EdChatME
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
Love screencasts too!!!
#EdChatMe
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
Thanks for this - I added it to "feedback tools" here:
https://t.co/iUnS3Z5L7M
I use screencasts - similar idea!
#edchatme
In reply to @mrsjntidwell
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
To the point!
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
I like this guy.
#edchatme
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
Conversation.
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4: feedback from all levels, self, peer, teacher - I love having convos for ePortfolio, allows to clarify w/immediate feedback
#Edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
Depends on intent of grade. Snapshot of final performance, or pattern over a reasonable period of time?
#EdChatME
In reply to @briley8557, @eringobragh29
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4: I like comments in Google Docs when I'm teaching writing, with "How might you" questions to guide revision.
#edchatme
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4: face to face convos, audio feedback, short videos while going over work
#edchatME
MrHebertPE
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
Check out my pinned tweet for
#gamification
in
#education
ideas! You'll love them. Engagement unlike any other.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4 I sincerely respect that it is hard to scale, but conversations as feedback are very effective.
#edchatme
bm_leonard
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
Perfectly said.
#Edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
A4 Meaningful feedback guiding students towards a goal. Presented face-to-face, embedded in work, in conjunction w S reflection
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
Is it a ton more work for you? I'm trying to cut down on the work, while asking Ss to be more reflective, too...
#edchatme
In reply to @Jentechnology
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
Jen, we can learn so much from our PLN!
#edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
A4: One-on-one conversations are the most valuable feedback. Something done well, and something to develop.
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
Reflection FOR Learning will IGNITE Learning. Just ask
@mssackstein
and
@garnet_hillman
!
#edchatme
In reply to @mssackstein, @garnet_hillman
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
Is it a ton more work for you? I'm trying to cut down on the work, while asking Ss to be more reflective, too...
#edchatme
In reply to @Jentechnology
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
>90% of Qs I ask begin with “How Might We” or “To What Extent” to ensure openendness.
#itsaword
#itisnow
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4: I like comments in Google Docs when I'm teaching writing, with "How might you" questions to guide revision.
#edchatme
McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
A4: I use
@ClassDojo
in my 3rd grade class. Parents and students LOVE the feedback they get from it. Multiple options.
#EdChatME
In reply to @ClassDojo
mgrosstaylor
Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
👏🏾Join me LIVE on
@EduGladiators
PODCAST w/
@maverikcrq
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#SXSWEdu
#edchatme
#formativechat
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#tlap
EduGladiators
Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
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#ELLChat
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#TLAP
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:08 PM EST
We must find ways to
#STOPIT
!
@Mr_Oldfield
@JoyKirr
#edchatme
In reply to @Mr_Oldfield, @JoyKirr
Mr_Oldfield
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
#edchatme
Ts who are ineffective at reaching Ss turn to good & bad grades to "motivate".
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
It's so wrong to PUNISH students, either way. Have the convo and let Ss practice skills.
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW, @Mr_Oldfield
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
A4 The etymology of "assessment" points to the Latin word for "sit by". Perfect!
#EdChatME
MrHebertPE
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
A4: Side note. No research exists that prove "bad grades" are motivational at all
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
Punishment discourages learning...
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
It's so wrong to PUNISH students, either way. Have the convo and let Ss practice skills.
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW, @Mr_Oldfield
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
That’s no side note. That needs to be a major, in everyones face, and super important note.
#edchatme
MrHebertPE
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
A4: Side note. No research exists that prove "bad grades" are motivational at all
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
Many ideas here about why grades don't work well...
https://t.co/zeUFqfmE7f
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
@JenniKelSikes
Thank you! Smiling!
#edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
Check out “Inquiry Based Learning.” All about teaching Ss how to ask good Qs, and then answer them.
#edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q5: If you chose to give only feedback in lieu of marks, how could you still hold students accountable?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q5: If you chose to give only feedback in lieu of marks, how could you still hold students accountable?
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q5: If you chose to give only feedback in lieu of marks, how could you still hold students accountable?
#EdChatME
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
@RightQuestion
#edchatme
In reply to @RightQuestion
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
Check out “Inquiry Based Learning.” All about teaching Ss how to ask good Qs, and then answer them.
#edchatme
In reply to @JenniKelSikes
MrHebertPE
Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
Side note because it isn't the answer to your question ... Very much a forefront, in your face fact otherwise 😉
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
...and closes the door to a meaningful learning relationship based on grit, perseverance, and trust.
#edchatme
#colchat
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
Punishment discourages learning...
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
It's so wrong to PUNISH students, either way. Have the convo and let Ss practice skills.
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW, @Mr_Oldfield
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
A5) Performance/Proficiency Scales. Scaffold the scales based on cognitive complexity & autonomy vs. content (stays consistent).
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
A5: Habits of Work and Learning, baby! You might take forever to do something, but if you're TRYING, you're in the clear!
#edchatme
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
Check out
@alicekeeler
for amazing feedback ideas, like this one
https://t.co/Eib6YNBulj
#EdChatMe
In reply to @alicekeeler
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
I know that
@joykirr
focuses her classroom on narrative feedback, not letters/numbers!
#edchatme
#colchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @JoyKirr
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
A5: Have students prepare evid. throughout the grading period to prove their skills in standards you're learning. 1:1 conf a MUST
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
A5, 2: Also, with my Srs, this is extremely helpful. They push boundaries left and right, and I need them to care about Hamlet.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
@edchatme
re: Q5 do you consider labeling/designating a student as "proficient" to be a "mark?"
#edchatme
In reply to @EdChatME
MeganCMoMo
Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
Oh, this I know:) We have spoken many times.
#colchat
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @JoyKirr
djlessard2016
Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
A5:portfolios, student led conferencing, goal setting and reflection as requirements
#edchatme
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
#EdChatME
Q5 The absence of marks doesn't mean the absence of expectations or goals. Feedback serves both of those better than marks.
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
I would think so.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
@edchatme
re: Q5 do you consider labeling/designating a student as "proficient" to be a "mark?"
#edchatme
In reply to @EdChatME
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
Not sure this is the answer. Effort is important, but actual knowledge/skills crucial, too.
#competencybased
#edchatME
In reply to @eringobragh29
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
A5 - We indicate that Learners may be Proficient on a Standard but have yet to attach a 'mark'.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
@edchatme
re: Q5 do you consider labeling/designating a student as "proficient" to be a "mark?"
#edchatme
In reply to @EdChatME
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
A5 S doc of learning, through self eval (written on blogs/docs/paper or video) in conjunction w 1:1 T conf & student led conf
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2) Ts in
@AOS94ME
get observed often during the year, & observations are done online & get emailed right to Ts when finished
#edchatme
In reply to @AOS94ME
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
Yes, but if I'm trying to get teenagers to write, not penalizing them for getting something wrong, HOWs fill the gap.
#edchatme
In reply to @UVEIconnect
MrHebertPE
Mar 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
A5: Change the language of learning. I give XP, gold, badges, Ss fight bosses, guild battle and quest.
#Gamification
is the best!
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
Conferences with our Learners where they provide evidence and communicate their Proficiency is vital for Ss, Ts and LIFE!
#edchatme
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
A5 S doc of learning, through self eval (written on blogs/docs/paper or video) in conjunction w 1:1 T conf & student led conf
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
#edchatme
Jentechnology
Mar 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
If I grade Ss, they have it easy. If I make them prove the grade I must give, they have to reflect, which takes work
In reply to @JenniKelSikes, @JoyKirr
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
I found that when I gave narrative feedback AND the label of "proficient" etc, Ss did NOT revise to improve.
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
@DrewetteCard
Do Ts have an opportunity to reflect on observations/evaluations?
#edchatme
In reply to @DrewetteCard
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
We choose to wait for the conference with the Learner to agree upon a Learning indicator.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
Mar 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
interesting, so the indicator as an aide but not a final designation. Is there a final designation you use?
In reply to @RoweRikW
viu_CIEL
Mar 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
Enthusiasm and motivation come best from within, feedback provides students accomplishment as well as a direction to continue in
#Edchatme
RobLunak
Mar 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
A5 measure products and growth rather than grades.
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
How I knew providing "proficient" etc. wasn't working:
https://t.co/y6dAYUkoeX
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
Yes they do. Ideally they’ll get the ops feedback & then meet w/ observer ASAP to discuss. NOTHING beats conversation
#edchatme
In reply to @jessicawrd3
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
A5: Regular 1:1 convos to provide feedback+learning as iteration+Ss self-reflect = evidence of meeting goals and/or standards
#edchatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q6: The less you grade, the more students need to prove. What types of collection tools have you found useful?
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q6: The less you grade, the more students need to prove. What types of collection tools have you found useful?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q6: The less you grade, the more students need to prove. What types of collection tools have you found useful?
#EdChatME
watertankmath
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Another big night!
#cdnedchat
#nyedchat
#edchatme
#colchat
#ksedchat
#msmathchat
#aledchat
#iledchat
#tosachat
#math
Hope 2 see u all Tues!
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
There's no one-size-fits-all option. The ideal system is a combination of many (sometimes complicated) pieces.
#edchatme
In reply to @UVEIconnect
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
A6 - We use Proficiency (Exit) Tickets every 3 days to solidify the learning and
#MakeItStick
. Read this by Peter C. Brown.
#edchatme
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q6: The less you grade, the more students need to prove. What types of collection tools have you found useful?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
I heard recently about “Entry Tix” vs “Exit Tix,” bc “Exit Tix” is too late to know what they’ve learned. Thoughts?
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
Shared google folders where they put EVERYTHING
#edchatME
djlessard2016
Mar 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
A6:honestly this depends on a variety of factors- most importantly Ss themselves. They often will create more challenging targets
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
A6 - I'm thinking Google Forms could be used as data collection and varied based on Learner selections.
#edchatme
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q6: The less you grade, the more students need to prove. What types of collection tools have you found useful?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
A6: I like exit tickets via Google Forms, and blogs for narrative reflection have been really useful.
#edchatme
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
Portfolio Tools to help students collect evidence:
https://t.co/dw68ndBtoe
#edchatme
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
I hear about "Entry Tix", but have yet to use them. I prefer to track AFTER our learning (more recent).
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
I heard recently about “Entry Tix” vs “Exit Tix,” bc “Exit Tix” is too late to know what they’ve learned. Thoughts?
#edchatme
In reply to @RoweRikW
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
Indeed - IMHO learning involves both content-based knowledge & skill and scholarly behaviors / HOWs.
#EdChatME
In reply to @eringobragh29, @UVEIconnect
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
A6 Portfolios. I don't understand why folks resist. They are a natural for PBE.
#EDCHATME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
We’re in the final stretch for
#edchatme
, talking about feedback. Let’s push on through, then hop over to
#colchat
to keep it going!
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
Do EVERYTHING in Google Classroom. Use Drive to search a student - things made in Classroom has their name: de facto portfolio!
#EdChatMe
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
It may be easier for Ts to collect points than examples. :(
#edchatme
In reply to @GaryChapinCCE
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
A6 At elem level we enjoy Drive. Everything is stored & curated.
@PondCoveTech
shared an
@alicekeeler
trick to doc lrng w/ slides!
#EdChatME
In reply to @PondCoveTech, @alicekeeler
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
Not to mention that if you're in a low SES area, sometimes just getting words on paper is a victory.
#edchatme
In reply to @jonpratt, @UVEIconnect
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
Why differentiation is so important! Is the standard about content or writing?
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @jonpratt, @UVEIconnect
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
I love this. I think it's a great idea, and a natural fit both for PBE and for schools using Google Classroom.
#edchatme
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
A6 Portfolios. I don't understand why folks resist. They are a natural for PBE.
#EDCHATME
HowardKiyuna
Mar 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
A6: I'm about to use Thinglinks for Ss reports. I'll let them embed GForm questions to gauge understanding. I also like interviews
#edchatme
4BrianDavis
Mar 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
Are phones a tool or a toy? For the IGen, the generation of young adults to grade school.
https://t.co/kRE02cmQpa
#edchat
#edchatme
#phones
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
#NEXTSTEPS
: What tips, tools, or ideas will you implement THIS WEEK?
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
#NEXTSTEPS
: What tips, tools, or ideas will you implement THIS WEEK?
#EdChatME
JoyKirr
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
#NEXTSTEPS
: What tips, tools, or ideas will you implement THIS WEEK?
#EdChatME
UVEIconnect
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
Depends.
#edchatME
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @eringobragh29, @jonpratt
GaryChapinCCE
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
We could do a whole
#edchatme
about AP classes.
JenniKelSikes
Mar 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
Another issue I have is grading AP essays. Students want to know what they "got" from a 1-9.
In reply to @JoyKirr
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
My standards are almost NEVER content. Spin 'em, but it's skills all the way.
#edchatme
#highschool
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @jonpratt, @UVEIconnect
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
A6) Drive. The ability to visibly comment, share, edit, revise, improve, etc. is incredibly powerful.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
#micdropmomentofthenight
#sofar
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
My standards are almost NEVER content. Spin 'em, but it's skills all the way.
#edchatme
#highschool
In reply to @DrewetteCard, @jonpratt, @UVEIconnect
mrsjntidwell
Mar 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
A6: Google Keep for teachers & students! Using Google Keep for Grading Comments in Docs
https://t.co/azN1RyTuBa
#EdChatMe
jonpratt
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
A6 We're 1:1 iPad, Google/Edmodo/iTunes U in classes for digi stuff - iTunes U for portfolio based on cross-curricular standards.
#EdChatME
T_HEB
Mar 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
Thanks for sharing your time and talents
#edchatme
#colchat
. Have a great week!
RoweRikW
Mar 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
Thank you to
@JoyKirr
,
@DrewetteCard
and our entire
#edchatme
Crew tonight on our informative sharing on
#Feedback
. Good Night All!
In reply to @JoyKirr, @DrewetteCard
EmilyGBonis
Mar 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
Since we are two days away from the end of the term, I plan on having students self-reflect via google forms
#edchatME
jessicawrd3
Mar 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
#nextsteps
Discussion/PD for my staff HMW give more effective feedback and grade less?
#thxsfortheresources
#EdChatME
EdChatME
Mar 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
Thank you all for joining and chatting tonight, and an especially big thanks to
@joykirr
for guest moderating!
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
Thank you for joining us tonight! And a YUGE thanks to
@joykirr
for helping lead us through this tough convo!
#EDUROCKSTAR
!
#edchatme
In reply to @JoyKirr