#TeachWriting Archive

#TeachWriting chat is where educators talk about writing instruction. Every other Tuesday @ 9pm ET/8pm CT.

Tuesday January 23, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Jan 23 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #TeachWriting, our bi-weekly chat about the teaching of writing. Tonight's moderator is @shanavh - take it away, Shana!
  • MrsMurat Jan 23 @ 9:00 PM EST
    My journey with Hyperdocs this year. Would love your feedback! https://t.co/nTObDBla3h #TeacherFriends #Teachwriting #worldgeochat #eduldrcoaching #txlchat
  • participatechat Jan 23 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #TeachWriting by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/zIInYJmWQo
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #TeachWriting chat! As you join us, use the first few minutes to introduce yourself, your roles in writing instruction (teacher, admin., parent, student, etc.).
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi there! Robyn from TX. Consultant/coach. Looking forward to the chat! #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:00 PM EST
      Welcome to #TeachWriting chat! As you join us, use the first few minutes to introduce yourself, your roles in writing instruction (teacher, admin., parent, student, etc.).
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I'm Associate Professor of English education at Gardner-Webb Univ in N.C. I teach FYC as well, so lots of writing in my day! #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome @RobynHartzellpd! Thanks for joining! #teachwriting
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd, @RobynHartzellpd
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hey there! Jennifer from WI checking in. I'm an ed consultant working to help teachers & their students grow as writers & the co-moderator of the #TeachWrite chat. Love the topic of tonight's chat. #TeachWriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:00 PM EST
      Welcome to #TeachWriting chat! As you join us, use the first few minutes to introduce yourself, your roles in writing instruction (teacher, admin., parent, student, etc.).
  • skeeTX Jan 23 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: writing should be cross-curricular and part of every class, whether formal or informal. Ss should be able to write outside English class #teachwriting
  • mardieteach Jan 23 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi! I'm Rhonda, 7th and 8th grade English Language Arts teacher! #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi Jennifer! Nice to see/meet you! #teachwriting #TeachWrite
    In reply to @TeachWriteEDU
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: That it is not a series of steps but rather a continuous decision-making process...sentence by sentence. #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: I am a firm believer that teachers who write make the best teachers of writing. I wish more teachers were willing to give it a try. #TeachWriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • mardieteach Jan 23 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Amen! #teachwriting - There's often not enough writing in a student's day .
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Great thought! Esp the "continuous" part! #teachwriting #TeachWrite
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome! So glad you made it. Join in anytime! I hope to hear from all voices/perspectives. #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    In reply to @rachelduanne1
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I agree! When we are writers ourselves, we can see this firsthand. So important! #TeachWriting
    • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1: That it is not a series of steps but rather a continuous decision-making process...sentence by sentence. #teachwriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
        Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • mardieteach Jan 23 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 - I'd want parents, students (and other teachers) to know that improvement takes time and lots of writing. Improvements don't always happen overnight. #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Q2: If you could change something about how writing is taught, what would you like to see changed? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Writers write, esp teachers of writing. Yes! Next question coming up! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1: I am a firm believer that teachers who write make the best teachers of writing. I wish more teachers were willing to give it a try. #TeachWriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
        Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • skeeTX Jan 23 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2: writing should become habitual at an early age so Ss don’t fear the process but look forward to expressing themselves in a variety of ways. #teachwriting
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 As an Art & Literacy teacher I wish that more educators understood what creativity is and how it actually happens. Creating is messy, non-linear, exploratory, elusive and often takes lots and lots of time. Quantity leads to quality. #TeachWriting
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2: I would like to see reading and writing ALWAYS taught together. Especially in middle school where they tend to be separated into 2 classes. #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:12 PM EST
      Q2: If you could change something about how writing is taught, what would you like to see changed? #TeachWriting
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Agree! We have to remember that we teach an art...just like there are visual, performing, and culinary arts. We teach LANGUAGE arts! #teachwriting
    In reply to @trevorabryan
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2 I would like writing instruction to go back to the more original model of the writer’s workshop. All the early books of @FletcherRalph & his most recent book, Joy Write, lay it out beautifully. I also love that Ralph is a writer who teaches writing. @HeinemannPub #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I see this a lot...Q3-5 might help us think about ways to make such change. #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A2: I would like to see reading and writing ALWAYS taught together. Especially in middle school where they tend to be separated into 2 classes. #teachwriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:12 PM EST
        Q2: If you could change something about how writing is taught, what would you like to see changed? #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Volume! Volume! Volume! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @mardieteach
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q3: Based on your role, what changes would you like to see in how writing is assessed? #TeachWriting
  • mardieteach Jan 23 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 - #teachwriting - All teachers as 'teachers of writing' would help students know that writing is like speaking, important aspect of all disciplines.
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: I'd like to see writing time in every classroom, every day. I'd like to see it raised to the level of importance that reading has attained. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @shanavh
  • jimdevivo Jan 23 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1. Writing needs an audience. This can lead to deeper revision. #TeachWriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A3: I would love to see more portfolio-based assessment being used. #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q3: Based on your role, what changes would you like to see in how writing is assessed? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Wondering how we do this w/ current structures, standards, etc. Writing is messy, so we avoid it? #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:19 PM EST
      A2: I'd like to see writing time in every classroom, every day. I'd like to see it raised to the level of importance that reading has attained. #TeachWriting
      In reply to @shanavh
  • rozazak3 Jan 23 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Hi, I am Roza. I am a Speech-Language Pathologist. I am looking to help my students with. I just joined Twitter and so thrilled to learn #teachwriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Agree! Writing lives need to begin early if they are going to grow with the child. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:20 PM EST
    All art forms are a form of text. Visual and performing arts are all about exploration of and effective communication of ideas/experiences just like written texts. #teachwriting
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Welcome @jimdevivo! And, great point! How can we create authentic aud. in K-College classroom? #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • jimdevivo Jan 23 @ 9:19 PM EST
      A1. Writing needs an audience. This can lead to deeper revision. #TeachWriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:06 PM EST
        Q1: Based on your role, what do you wish that others involved in your school or your community understood about the teaching of writing? #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Nicely said, Trevor! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @trevorabryan
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Love this! Thanks @trevorabryan #teachwriting
    • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:20 PM EST
      All art forms are a form of text. Visual and performing arts are all about exploration of and effective communication of ideas/experiences just like written texts. #teachwriting
      In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:22 PM EST
    In Q4 we'll discuss how this can be enacted/what it will look like in 2 mins. I use portfolios, but is it realistic for all current classrooms without change in structure/emphasis/testing? #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Joy Write by @FletcherRalph should be a must read for all writing teachers! #TeachWriting
    • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A2 I would like writing instruction to go back to the more original model of the writer’s workshop. All the early books of @FletcherRalph & his most recent book, Joy Write, lay it out beautifully. I also love that Ralph is a writer who teaches writing. @HeinemannPub #TeachWriting
  • skeeTX Jan 23 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3: writing cannot be overinstructed/guided with rubrics. Ss need to be able to write freely and without fear. Their confidence is most important. Ts should coach with care #teachwriting
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I just got my copy last week. Can't wait to start reading it! #teachwriting
    In reply to @TeachWriteEDU, @FletcherRalph
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Q4 coming up! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q4: What would these changes look like if enacted? #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: I struggle with putting a letter grade on writing. I believe in assessing it -- looking for growth against a standard -- and using this for goal setting, but giving it a grade can have devastating effects. #TeachWriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q3: Based on your role, what changes would you like to see in how writing is assessed? #TeachWriting
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Joy Write (Joy) is applicable to all arts classes, not just writing. Playfulness and free exploration have to be part of all creative environments. #teachwriting
  • skeeTX Jan 23 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A4: Ss given time and space to write, not to just get it done to please T or be graded, but to learn about themselves so they become more confident #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:27 PM EST
    So true! Culture of school and "ranking" (Peter Elbow) make assessment an uphill battle. Maybe more transparency in what we are trying to do? #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:25 PM EST
      A3: I struggle with putting a letter grade on writing. I believe in assessing it -- looking for growth against a standard -- and using this for goal setting, but giving it a grade can have devastating effects. #TeachWriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:18 PM EST
        Q3: Based on your role, what changes would you like to see in how writing is assessed? #TeachWriting
  • skeeTX Jan 23 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Yes!!!! Too often Ss only see and identify with the grade which seems like a huge anchor crushing their hearts! #teachwriting
    In reply to @TeachWriteEDU
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4 I think embracing the older workshop model would bring more joy, exploration, playfulness to the writing process. In all the art forms, quantity leads to quality. Joyful engagement is going to lead to quantity, not grades and rubrics. #TeachWriting
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4: The biggest impediments that I hear to implementing portfolios is difficulty in standardization . If instruction and assessment are related, then a good assessment should reflect good instruction. Good instruction is differentiated. #teachwriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:30 PM EST
    And there are enough internal struggles around writing identity already. Grades can make that worse. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Acknowledging the need for differentiation is huge! Portfolios allow for common goals while honoring writers' varying needs, levels, etc. #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:29 PM EST
      A4: The biggest impediments that I hear to implementing portfolios is difficulty in standardization . If instruction and assessment are related, then a good assessment should reflect good instruction. Good instruction is differentiated. #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Q5: Where or with whom might you/we start these conversations about changes in writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:32 PM EST
    On to Q5, thinking about ways to get these great ideas out there! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:33 PM EST
    If the focus was on engagement, instead of growth, If high engagement became the standard then growth would take care of itself. #teachwriting
    • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:29 PM EST
      A4: The biggest impediments that I hear to implementing portfolios is difficulty in standardization . If instruction and assessment are related, then a good assessment should reflect good instruction. Good instruction is differentiated. #teachwriting
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5: People generally want to see something working before they try it. Start with campus/district teachers and admin who want to try something different. Others start to notice when things start working. #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q5: Where or with whom might you/we start these conversations about changes in writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Grass roots style! Smart! Wondering about resources/places already showing "something working" that we can look to. Any examples we know of for portfolios in practice, for example, instead of testing? #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A5: People generally want to see something working before they try it. Start with campus/district teachers and admin who want to try something different. Others start to notice when things start working. #teachwriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:32 PM EST
        Q5: Where or with whom might you/we start these conversations about changes in writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5: Admins need to be a part of this conversation. They need to make it part of the school culture and show Ts that it is okay to think outside the box when it comes to writing instruction & doing what's best for kids. #TeachWriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Q5: Where or with whom might you/we start these conversations about changes in writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Q6 in a few minutes! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Love the push for admin to create a culture of "play" and encourage Ts to share their ideas, try things. Open our doors, let all see the good writing stuff going on! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:36 PM EST
      A5: Admins need to be a part of this conversation. They need to make it part of the school culture and show Ts that it is okay to think outside the box when it comes to writing instruction & doing what's best for kids. #TeachWriting
      • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:32 PM EST
        Q5: Where or with whom might you/we start these conversations about changes in writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q6: What resources do you/we need in order to enact these potential changes for writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Have a book coming out on using visual texts to scaffold/support students with their comprehension and writing craft. Out this summer/fall through @stenhousepub Great for striving students. Might be of interest to you. #teachwriting
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd, @stenhousepub
  • LetchfordLois Jan 23 @ 9:39 PM EST
    #teachwriting
    • mardieteach Jan 23 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1 - I'd want parents, students (and other teachers) to know that improvement takes time and lots of writing. Improvements don't always happen overnight. #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I'm hearing more convo w/ admin, Ts sharing more of the good stuff they are doing/what's working...what else? #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A6 To enact meaningful change in writing instruction, teachers need access to quality professional texts and professional development/discussion. #teachwriting
  • TeachWriteEDU Jan 23 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Have to say goodnight, #TeachWriting friends. Thanks for the thought-provoking inspiration! We would love to see you for the #TeachWrite chat on Monday, 2/5 at 7:30 pm ET. You can sign up for a text reminder here: https://t.co/lYIb7rLV1p.
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A6: massive amounts of training needs to be provided. #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:38 PM EST
      Q6: What resources do you/we need in order to enact these potential changes for writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Last Q coming up! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Q7: How might we get students’ voices involved in such curriculum/policy changes for writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Makes sense! But for whom? By whom? When in the school year? Ts need compensation or time off for training, for sure! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:47 PM EST
    job-embedded coaching...Summer training is good, but there needs to be constant reflection/coaching. #teachwriting
    In reply to @shanavh
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A7: sounds imple...but we have to ASK them. Invite them to the decision-making meetings and listen to their voices. #teachwriting
    • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:45 PM EST
      Q7: How might we get students’ voices involved in such curriculum/policy changes for writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Agree! We all need continued reflection, collaboration, & learning to improve and stay vibrant as teachers of writing! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Simple is often best! W/ older Ss they struggle to trust these "asks" as it's often the first time! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A7 ask them. Have them write about it. Ask them how they would like to learn. Have them read about writing and writing instruction, so they are informed-reading empowers their writing voice #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Love to hear any final thoughts, things you're thinking about now #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:51 PM EST
    very true! If they are asked, they need to see something change as a result of their voice. Even a small change reflecting their voice can make a BIG difference with how much they will contribute. #teachwriting
    In reply to @shanavh
  • RobynHartzellpd Jan 23 @ 9:53 PM EST
    thanks for the chat! Lots to think about! #teachwriting
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I'm thinking I need to have more talks like these, pooling together more voices, and show w/ powers that be! Write on! #TeachWriting #TeachWrite
  • trevorabryan Jan 23 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Here is a basic idea of how the arts are related to reading/writing. And here is a five minute video about The Art of Comprehension: https://t.co/X2UK8CphxL #teachwriting
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd, @stenhousepub
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thank you so much for joining! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @RobynHartzellpd
  • shanavh Jan 23 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thanks for joining #TeachWriting Write on!