#iteachphysics Archive
Bi-weekly professional development Twitter chat for physics teachers
Saturday March 4, 2017
10:00 AM EST
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:00 AM EST
Good morning and welcome to this week's
#iteachphysics
chat
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:00 AM EST
Good morning and welcome to this week's
#iteachphysics
chat
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:00 AM EST
First we ought to define terms.
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:00 AM EST
First we ought to define terms.
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:01 AM EST
What does 'applied physics' mean to you? How is it different from engineering physics or applications of physics?
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:01 AM EST
What does 'applied physics' mean to you? How is it different from engineering physics or applications of physics?
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:01 AM EST
Is there a dichotomy between the terms 'applied physics' and 'applications of physics'?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:01 AM EST
Is there a dichotomy between the terms 'applied physics' and 'applications of physics'?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:02 AM EST
But is it 'applied physics' as defined in books & programs?
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:02 AM EST
But is it 'applied physics' as defined in books & programs?
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MissStrunk
Mar 4 @ 10:02 AM EST
Anyone else having a problem with
#iteachphysics
updating? I can only see the tweets when I go to accounts or my feed not search
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:03 AM EST
Let's do an
#iteachphysics
roll call. Please ell us where you teach, what level of students + how you define the terms used so far?
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:03 AM EST
Let's do an
#iteachphysics
roll call. Please ell us where you teach, what level of students + how you define the terms used so far?
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:04 AM EST
Good morning to you too!
#iteachphysics
In reply to @BlackPhysicists
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:06 AM EST
#iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:06 AM EST
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MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:07 AM EST
I am experiencing similar issues too.
#iteachphysics
feeds do not show up as frequently and I have been missing cool tweets.
In reply to @MissStrunk
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:07 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@H_Niam
Very definitive statement. Can you please help us understand the dichotomy?
In reply to @H_Niam
MissStrunk
Mar 4 @ 10:08 AM EST
good to know it's not just me
@BlackPhysicists
I will probably bow out as I am missing most the conversation
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In reply to @MrLeNadj, @BlackPhysicists
sterlace
Mar 4 @ 10:09 AM EST
"There does not exist a category of science to which one can give the name applied science..."
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(1/2)
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:09 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@MissStrunk
@MrLeNadj
Let me see if it changes according to what app I use to post
In reply to @MissStrunk, @MrLeNadj
sterlace
Mar 4 @ 10:09 AM EST
"There are sciences & the applications of science, bound together as the fruit of the tree which bears it." - L Pasteur
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(2/2)
massignmenthelp
Mar 4 @ 10:10 AM EST
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5 Signs Indicate that you Need to Hire Online Math Tutor
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Mar 4 @ 10:10 AM EST
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22 Free yet Overlooked Online Teaching Tools for Teachers
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:10 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@MrLeNadj
Generally 'applied physics' seems to mean work that has some immediate technological application
In reply to @MrLeNadj
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
There are at least 18 formal 'applied physics' programs in the US
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
There are at least 18 formal 'applied physics' programs in the US
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
Stanford, Cornell, Hopkins, Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Caltech, Indiana, Rice, Oregon
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
Stanford, Cornell, Hopkins, Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Caltech, Indiana, Rice, Oregon
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
Iowa, Northwestern, American Univ, Umiami, Maryland, KetteringU, UMass-Boston
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
Iowa, Northwestern, American Univ, Umiami, Maryland, KetteringU, UMass-Boston
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
Common curriculum & research offerings are photonics, materials, quantum info theory, bio, geo medical, health physics
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:11 AM EST
Common curriculum & research offerings are photonics, materials, quantum info theory, bio, geo medical, health physics
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nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:12 AM EST
Jeff Terry from
@IIT_Science
checking in to this week's
#iteachphysics
chat
In reply to @IIT_Science
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:13 AM EST
#iteachphysics
If 'applied physics' has a formal definition maybe it is the intersection of 'modern physics' with 'technology solution'
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:15 AM EST
'Engineering physics' I would argue connotes a certain problem-solving methodology that has be inculcated into the students
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:15 AM EST
'Engineering physics' I would argue connotes a certain problem-solving methodology that has be inculcated into the students
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nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:17 AM EST
That's a good definition. I tend to add a need for synthesis capability in experimental applied physics.
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:18 AM EST
You have to be able to actually create the new devices, etc that are the solutions to technical problems.
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:18 AM EST
So the Q becomes, at the HS, UG and grad levels, what do you have to do differently to get to 'applied physics'
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:18 AM EST
So the Q becomes, at the HS, UG and grad levels, what do you have to do differently to get to 'applied physics'
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:20 AM EST
Is teaching more 'applied' 'applications of' 'applicable' or 'engineering' topics important for successful physics pedagogy?
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:20 AM EST
Is teaching more 'applied' 'applications of' 'applicable' or 'engineering' topics important for successful physics pedagogy?
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:22 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@sterlace
- True enough. Applied math and applied physics programs exists a lot. No one ever says 'applied chemistry' anymore
In reply to @sterlace
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:22 AM EST
I think it is important to teach applications of physics to reach those who don't care about quarks, stars
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:24 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@MrLeNadj
I think 'applied physics' connotes something usable by humans or species that humans care about.
In reply to @MrLeNadj
arclight
Mar 4 @ 10:24 AM EST
Yay! Another weekend round of
#iteachphysics
with
@BlackPhysicists
and friends!
In reply to @BlackPhysicists
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:25 AM EST
#Iteachphysics
@MrLeNadj
So we have not yet figured out an everyday use for say the Higgs boson, so that's not 'applied physics'
In reply to @MrLeNadj
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:27 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@nuclear94
Are the standard labs in HS, college general and even intermediate level doing that?
In reply to @nuclear94
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:28 AM EST
I think that yes there are some that can labs that can be used to show application.
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:29 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@nuclear94
Can we do more robust labs that show applicability? Like using a car shock absorber to study Hookes law?
In reply to @nuclear94
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:29 AM EST
What are some teaching strategies, didactics, labs etc that can help Ss better appreciate the applications of physics?
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:29 AM EST
What are some teaching strategies, didactics, labs etc that can help Ss better appreciate the applications of physics?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:30 AM EST
#iteachphysics
theTSIN
Mar 3 @ 6:27 PM EST
By narrowing the gap between theory and practice, internships create deeper meaning for students
#workbasedlearning
https://t.co/JxOSYYHrCN
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:30 AM EST
In college labs, one can make simple schottky barriers and measure properties. Simple solar cells as well.
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:31 AM EST
Tutorial: how to make cheap scrotum ultrasound models
https://t.co/Naz1bWypkR
#iteachphysics
#biophysics
#acoustics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:31 AM EST
Tutorial: how to make cheap scrotum ultrasound models
https://t.co/952moG7rU4
#iteachphysics
#biophysics
#acoustics
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:31 AM EST
That's a good idea. I imagine simple wind tunnel experiments may be possible as well.
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:32 AM EST
My bias is always to look toward quantum experiments over classical. I should work on that.
@BlackPhysicists
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In reply to @BlackPhysicists
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:33 AM EST
Thank you
@RatesDiego
for offering this link
https://t.co/ffIRs04hv0
Yoshino Smartphone Microscope
#iteachphysics
In reply to @RatesDiego
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:33 AM EST
Thank you
@RatesDiego
for offering this link
https://t.co/dBaq2bhOVx
Yoshino Smartphone Microscope
#iteachphysics
In reply to @RatesDiego
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:34 AM EST
Suzanne Amador Kane has compiled resources for teaching
#biophysics
#iteachphysics
https://t.co/0viwH88e3G
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:34 AM EST
Suzanne Amador Kane has compiled resources for teaching
#biophysics
#iteachphysics
https://t.co/2zo8xTixsK
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:34 AM EST
Ashley Carter has great resources as well
https://t.co/tyAiYU9OgC
#iteachphysics
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:34 AM EST
Ashley Carter has great resources as well
https://t.co/UwfibfkXSE
#iteachphysics
FrancesVidotto
Mar 4 @ 10:36 AM EST
#iteachphysics
The body is so important to learn! Can we use our bodies to learn physics? I think so! Try movements and music with pupils!
achmorrison
Mar 4 @ 10:36 AM EST
#iteachphysics
I find applied physics to be those fields which exist at the intersection of physics and engineering.
In reply to @BlackPhysicists
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:36 AM EST
Teaching applications, applicability, applied or engineering physics is a function of PD time spent by the teacher, obviously
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:36 AM EST
Teaching applications, applicability, applied or engineering physics is a function of PD time spent by the teacher, obviously
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:37 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@achmorrison
Do you have a differentiation between 'applied physics' and 'engineering physics'?
In reply to @achmorrison
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:39 AM EST
Did you know, that a few yrs ago when TX whacked a few physics programs, that 'engineering physics' programs were untouched?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:39 AM EST
Did you know, that a few yrs ago when TX whacked a few physics programs, that 'engineering physics' programs were untouched?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:40 AM EST
'Engineering physics' had high enrollments, the closed physics programs not so much.
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:40 AM EST
'Engineering physics' had high enrollments, the closed physics programs not so much.
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:40 AM EST
So can 'applied physics' in the curriculum, labs, etc "save" physics programs?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:40 AM EST
So can 'applied physics' in the curriculum, labs, etc "save" physics programs?
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nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:41 AM EST
Additionally, experiments need to be developed that can be done with equipment typically found in high schools
@iteachphysics
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In reply to @iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:42 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@physicsnico
That is confounded a lot, in my mind, b/c engineering education at research universities is more engr sci IMO.
In reply to @physicsnico
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:42 AM EST
This is always one of the most difficult problems I face when going to high schools to do demonstrations
@iteachphysics
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In reply to @iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:43 AM EST
Is the ABET accreditation important for 'applied physics' or 'engineering physics'?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:43 AM EST
Is the ABET accreditation important for 'applied physics' or 'engineering physics'?
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MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:43 AM EST
#iteachphysics
e.g. I have Ss bring their
#dance
or
#organ
shoes to use instead of using blocks 4 friction lab.
In reply to @BlackPhysicists, @nuclear94
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:44 AM EST
#iteachphysics
Can ABET accreditation help physics depts attract more majors?
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:44 AM EST
#iteachphysics
Can ABET accreditation help physics depts attract more majors?
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:45 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@MrLeNadj
That's awesome
https://t.co/4lNg4YV25x
In reply to @MrLeNadj
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:43 AM EST
#iteachphysics
e.g. I have Ss bring their
#dance
or
#organ
shoes to use instead of using blocks 4 friction lab.
In reply to @BlackPhysicists, @nuclear94
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:45 AM EST
The standard
#physics
labs are fine; it is how Ss conduct them that matters most.
#iteachphysics
of
#music
when I do sound.
In reply to @iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:46 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@MrLeNadj
Have you ever had students look at Michael Jackson's patent?
https://t.co/wMZnwHfNQi
In reply to @MrLeNadj
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:47 AM EST
Here are some opportunities for PD in materials physics?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:47 AM EST
Here are some opportunities for PD in materials physics?
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:47 AM EST
Designing, Teaching, & Evaluating a Unit on Symmetry and Crystallography in the High School Classroom
https://t.co/rllrY2Snz7
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:47 AM EST
Designing, Teaching, & Evaluating a Unit on Symmetry and Crystallography in the High School Classroom
https://t.co/muKTWVAhZo
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM EST
Crystallographic education in the 21st century
https://t.co/bwEjiEp3NL
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM EST
Crystallographic education in the 21st century
https://t.co/sXl39AZMDD
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BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM EST
Materials Science and Technology Teacher Handbook
https://t.co/nEI3yXLFW1
#iteachphysics
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM EST
Materials Science and Technology Teacher Handbook
https://t.co/rMTMMNmS2Q
#iteachphysics
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM EST
I agree; we must watch for our own biases and put Ss’ interests & curiosities first and foremost.
#iteachphysics
In reply to @nuclear94, @BlackPhysicists
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM EST
Materials Science and Technology Teacher's Workshop
https://t.co/pwfYWQhFBx
#iteachphysics
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM EST
Materials Science and Technology Teacher's Workshop
https://t.co/sp1fwd4tk5
#iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM EST
+
@ASMinternatnl
Teachers Camps
https://t.co/0dXKa06YZA
#iteachphysics
In reply to @asminternatnl
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM EST
+
@ASMinternatnl
Teachers Camps
https://t.co/aCzSRvJzVT
#iteachphysics
In reply to @asminternatnl
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM EST
I understand. It is definitely difficult to make some of these choices but there are opportunities.
#iteachphysics
.
@sterlace
@iteachphysics
In reply to @sterlace, @iteachphysics
BYUAcoustics
Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM EST
#iteachphysics
BYUAcoustics
Mar 4 @ 10:40 AM EST
.
@achmorrison
@BlackPhysicists
The undergrad study of
#acoustics
at
@BYU
is often pursued as part of an applied
#physics
degree.
In reply to @achmorrison, @BlackPhysicists, @BYU
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@achmorrison
We have had an
#iteachphysics
chat on teaching
#optics
and
#photonics
https://t.co/RqUzlJyDXF
In reply to @achmorrison
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM EST
TY for pointing it out to me. I shall!
#iteachphysics
In reply to @BlackPhysicists
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:51 AM EST
#iteachphysics
chat: Teaching optics and photonics
https://t.co/W8bqCqsvBe
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:51 AM EST
#iteachphysics
chat: Teaching optics and photonics
https://t.co/wu9oYh291z
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:52 AM EST
TY 4 bringing this up. The other day I was thinking that I may go back to body motions instead of carts.
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In reply to @FrancesVidotto
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:52 AM EST
There are now cheap spectrometers for UV/Vis. Even an AFM shared by 3 departments isn't crazy
@sterlace
@iteachphysics
#iteachphysics
In reply to @sterlace, @iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:53 AM EST
If we implemented Physics First in HS across the board, we'd have applied, applicable + engineering physics in the curriculum
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iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:53 AM EST
If we implemented Physics First in HS across the board, we'd have applied, applicable + engineering physics in the curriculum
#iteachphysics
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:53 AM EST
#iteachphysics
Using carts and technology was too quick & lacked the human element. Kinematics should involve Ss themselves.
In reply to @FrancesVidotto
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:54 AM EST
#iteachphysics
indeed we have both a portable STM and UV/VIS that I throw in the car and take to schools
In reply to @sterlace, @iteachphysics
lyndalovon
Mar 4 @ 10:54 AM EST
cool! I will share this with students and colleagues!
#iteachphysics
@srjc
In reply to @srjc
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:46 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@MrLeNadj
Have you ever had students look at Michael Jackson's patent?
https://t.co/wMZnwHfNQi
In reply to @MrLeNadj
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:55 AM EST
We will have the project director of " A TIME for Physics First" here soon for an
#iteachphysics
chat
https://t.co/LrkL2Lcuyh
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:55 AM EST
We will have the project director of " A TIME for Physics First" here soon for an
#iteachphysics
chat
https://t.co/t0Gjd8kYVl
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM EST
#iteachphysics
@nuclear94
@sterlace
That's awesome!
In reply to @nuclear94, @sterlace
MrLeNadj
Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM EST
#iteachphysics
It all depends on whether
#physicsed
folks would be willing to espouse new methods of instruction or not?
In reply to @BlackPhysicists
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM EST
Teaching Quantum Computing with the QuIDE Simulator
https://t.co/BIqnzihsKz
#iteachphysics
#appliedphysics
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM EST
Teaching Quantum Computing with the QuIDE Simulator
https://t.co/Ty7v9wUc1p
#iteachphysics
#appliedphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:58 AM EST
Cryptography and Quantum Information
https://t.co/jM9T8I16bH
#iteachphysics
iteachphysics
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:58 AM EST
Cryptography and Quantum Information
https://t.co/BCrsGwSDKF
#iteachphysics
BlackPhysicists
- Moderator
Mar 4 @ 10:59 AM EST
+
@MrLeNadj
I think
#phsyicsed
people are not hard to convince, as much as HS administrators are to implement Physics First.
#iteachphysics
In reply to @MrLeNadj
nuclear94
Mar 4 @ 10:59 AM EST
We recently added applied physics to help increase enrollment.
#iteachphysics
@iteachphysics
In reply to @iteachphysics