#DevDiscuss Archive

Tuesday April 24, 2018
9:00 PM EDT
  • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • kvlly Apr 24 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    My ideal office setup looks a little like this. #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Less than ideal: "angry" wall colors, too open of a space (as in, noise carries), too cold/too warm #DevDiscuss
  • getDanArias Apr 24 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    NOT. OPEN. SPACE. PLEASE. The struggle is real! Not even Bose noise cancelling headphones can help! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    The chat will last about an hour and we use the #DevDiscuss tag. Rules: - Stay on topic - ALWAYS ALWAYS use hashtag #DevDiscuss - Be NICE/POSITIVE ❤️ - Quoting tweets for clarity is encouraged (ALWAYS use the #DevDiscuss, even on replies where appropriate 😄)
  • SathyaPandalai Apr 24 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    No to open layouts, yes to reasonable remote working facilities and hell yeah for lesser meetings. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kvlly Apr 24 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    As an entrepreneur, working out of a co-working space has changed my entire work experience. My team is remote, so I can socialize with other entrepreneurs in the same office space. Large community tables + plenty of coffee. #DevDiscuss
  • mrtnrst Apr 24 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Ideal Office Setup: 1. Coffee and Tea 2. Place to work that isn’t my desk 3. Well lit, I already wear glasses and don’t need to strain my eyes more 4. Ability to work remote 5. @TopoChicoUSA #DevDiscuss
  • recursivefaults Apr 24 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Default to working together, spaces to think alone, cozy break room with snacks, place to blow of steam, conference rooms with flexible table setups. Leadership with vision that defer to teams and bring transparency to all areas of business. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • KathyApplebaum Apr 24 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A great office has both collab and quiet private areas. Distractions and noise ruin concentration. My current office has a great mix of areas, after we did some shuffling. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • gdavis92 Apr 24 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I've already got a corner office, so ✅ on that. Otherwise, I've found that natural light is a must; I was in an inner-facing cubical without sunlight access for about a year and a half, which made this apparent. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    I'd LOVE fewer meetings. Or, instead of meetings were more focused and relevant #devdiscuss
    In reply to @SathyaPandalai, @ThePracticalDev
  • IBeRenascent Apr 24 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Sitting/standings desks, multi monitors, sitting together with all scrum team members (PO/dev/design/QA). Oh and pet friendly 🐶 too. My current setup in other words 😁 #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • IgnoreIntuition Apr 24 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A workspace provides an environment that limits distractions and has readily available spaces for collaboration === success #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • SathyaPandalai Apr 24 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Amen to that. Better results and ability to focus, real plus. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @ThePracticalDev
  • thatseandempsey Apr 24 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    I've only ever been in open office situations. I've had pretty severe ADHD my whole life and it can be pretty bad. Luckily at 3 separate employers over the years, they've all been super accommodating. Headphones are an industry trend I hope never dies. #DevDiscuss
  • thatseandempsey Apr 24 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    My ideal situation is remote. My home office is built to reduce distractions. I get _a lot_ more done when allowed to work from home. My setup has been consistent for years. Very happy with it. #DevDiscuss
  • DevelopmentMatt Apr 24 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    - A hybrid open/personal-space office would be great. I’m not entirely sure what the looks like. - Stress and stressful people. - I am, currently work from home and at the office. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • annaeldecodes Apr 24 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    💖 working from my home office. it's so much more comfortable (no place like 🏡) and i feel like i get mountains of more work done. but i do like being in the office to hang with coworkers #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Apr 24 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    1. 0 other people. 2. >0 other people. 3. Yep, remote worker. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • bxlewi1 Apr 24 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A fast computer, defined requirements, an office wih a door. #DevDiscuss
  • _echeatham Apr 24 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A place where I can get enjoy some silence and get into the proper headspace. In other words, not an open office concept. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • PreciselyAlyss Apr 24 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A great office environment is mindful of aneurotypical folks as well as intro/extroverts. Is there a place I can go to chat? Or be alone? Do I need to bring my own headphones? If there are snacks, do they incorporate food allergies? #DevDiscuss
  • nicktail Apr 24 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    No. Cubicles. I would refuse a job offer if they expected me to work in a cubicle. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    + too much communication/too many communication channels. It gets overwhelming and hurts productivity #devdiscuss
  • castelocl Apr 24 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Ideal work setup: A mix of work in an office with little distractions (coworking space, library) and sometimes work from home. #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Apr 24 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    I don't know how else to define this, but loud spaces really brings down my productivity. I'm talking about both design and sound. I am had to deal with my ADHD every time I go to my laptop, I need some semblance of calm around me as I work #devdiscuss
  • pctroll Apr 24 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    We thought cubicles were bad, until we finally transitioned to 100% open spaces and we found hell. A minimum of privacy is required for concentration, inspiration, and better communication. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • PreciselyAlyss Apr 24 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Biggest office complaint I have is getting the right chair + desk height for my 5'2" stature. My home office has an exercise ball but the desk height isn't quite right. It has led to some lower back and upper trapz pain #DevDiscuss
  • Paladin677 Apr 24 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    An ideal office includes a consideration to greatly reduce interruptions and has a nearby location that actively encourages you to step away from work periodically to reset. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mgaruccio Apr 24 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Ideal setup for me is single large (36"+) display with a trackball and 60% sized kb in a quiet office #DevDiscuss
  • TheTrentHarvey Apr 24 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Ideal office is private / semi-private personal space, modern and airy aesthetics /w ample social or lounge space for casual discussions. Plus modern, fully equipped, clean, functional conference rooms. #DevDiscuss
  • TheTrentHarvey Apr 24 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Less than ideal is when people are forced to be crowded together and it's not possible to escape noise / distractions in order to immerse yourself in the work. It also doesn't help when the environment is stuffy, bland, and depressing. #DevDiscuss
  • TheOriginalBPC Apr 24 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A great office environment is a nice mix of variety but has some order to it. Less than the ideal environment is very hostile. People are more interested in the office politics than coding. Right now my setup is at home and gives me a good view of the road #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • harry_wood Apr 24 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss I dont understanding why my fellow developers seem to get so passionate and so picky about desks, chairs, monitors, and other aspects of the office environment. Stop whining and get on with writing some code :-)
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Apr 24 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    In case folks have more to say on this debate: https://t.co/W35pww3L4l #DevDiscuss 👩‍💻👨‍💻
  • dsampaolo Apr 24 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #devDiscuss Learning Guitar. You have to focus (cleans the mind) and learn things with your finger you never thought were possible, even if you type faster than your shadow.
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Great office setup: Dogs. Snacks. Snacks for dogs. Jeans / casual dress code #DevDiscuss
  • davidbrunelle Apr 24 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Oh... Tonight's #devdiscuss is about ideal office setups. Wondering what those fine folks think about tunes in the office?
    • davidbrunelle Apr 24 @ 5:20 PM EDT
      Time for an incredibly scientific twitter poll. How do you feel about music in the office? 🎼🎹🥁🎷🎺 Would also love to hear details and experiences that inform your preference 👌
  • gdavis92 Apr 24 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Are open office schemes really as bad as everyone says? As in, categorically so? I've only worked in a closed office setting (currently share an office with another dev) and liked it, but enjoy social interaction. #devdiscuss
  • sam_ferree Apr 24 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I’m an Extrovert so it’s real easy for me to socialize too much. So while teamwork and collaboration is important, I love having a place set away where I can crank the music and get wired in for a solid 3-5 hours. Dream Workplace: Free caffeine. #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Apr 24 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Big plus: allergy-conscious snacks (and yes, I am saying this as the mayor of the peanut-free lunch table). You don't know what allergies your fellow co-workers may have #devdiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    I hear ya. However, being uncomfortable at work is not an environment that is conducive to being productive, writing good code, moral, overall happiness, etc #devdiscuss
    In reply to @harry_wood, @ThePracticalDev
  • gdavis92 Apr 24 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    As in out of speakers? I usually rock some earbuds #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @davidbrunelle
  • JustinDeardorff Apr 24 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss best setup has dedicated office, dual monitors, color printer nearby and ready access to collaborative space with whiteboards, video, post its, etc.
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • gdavis92 Apr 24 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    “I am saying this as the mayor of the peanut-free lunch table” Lol! Love it. That is a great consideration! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • laurieontech Apr 24 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Whether remote or not, any space should allow for me to collaborate with in person or out of office coworkers WITHOUT bothering anyone who is not part of those conversations. Otherwise you avoid collaboration due to environment, and that’s not good. #DevDiscuss
  • davidbrunelle Apr 24 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    My ideal office: - Open office - Lots of brakeout spaces - Plenty of white boards - Exposed brick, natural wood, etc... think "warm" - Tables for communal eating #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    I think it depends on the person and exact environment. My office is an open set up, but there are walls between rows/cubes. The walls between rows are high (two shelves high) and between cubes are shorter. It's not that bad #devdiscuss
    In reply to @gdavis92
  • JustinDeardorff Apr 24 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Less than ideal:open office, primarily remote work (not ideal but still tenable), lack of collab space.#devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    But I can see how having no wall barriers, where noise carries, there's little privacy, etc could be distracting #devdiscuss
    In reply to @gdavis92
  • manuherrera1 Apr 24 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss Clean desk with Apple devices everywhere
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • DanFellini Apr 24 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I work in an open office environment, and quite frankly, it's very difficult for me. I'm very reactive to noise. I work next to the office entrance so when deliveries come, they see me first. I'm right outside the break room and main conference space. #DevDiscuss
  • richburroughs Apr 24 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I have yet to see any credible rationalization for open offices, besides that they’re cheap. That’s why companies use them, it’s not about fueling collaboration. It’s such a terrible experience to work in them yet companies keep doing it. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • KyleStratis Apr 24 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Having been in a number of configurations, the thing that truly makes it is the people. I had the best productivity and UX for lack of better term when the people were right - fun, curious, and oriented to the same goal. When those are off, so is the environment. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • IgnoreIntuition Apr 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    I’m feeling the communal eating area lately. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @davidbrunelle
  • DanFellini Apr 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    The alternative is to be in a more populated open space, which the social part of me would love, but the concentration part of me would not be able to handle... #DevDiscuss
  • JustinDeardorff Apr 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss for those advocating WFH setups, do you feel that the primary benefit of WFH is some avoidance of office distractions that you don’t get in your currrent office enviro?
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jmdembe Apr 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    I used to work near the entrance way and I kept losing count of how often I would turn to see who was walking by. It was awful #devdiscuss
    In reply to @DanFellini
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    😬 I used to be by the printer and electric pencil sharpener of all things. It was not fun being that person on the corner that people ask "Where's X's desk???" when they were lost #devdiscuss
    In reply to @DanFellini
  • jmdembe Apr 24 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Yes. Also, the flexibility of when I can WFH is key. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @JustinDeardorff, @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Yes! I like the option of having lunch w/my coworkers. It would be nice if that room couldn't be booked for large meetings, etc #devdiscuss
    In reply to @IgnoreIntuition, @davidbrunelle
  • DanFellini Apr 24 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Yes. The bathrooms and bike locker are on the other side of the glass door. People sometimes, for real, stop and just look at me like I'm a fish. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • nervousjuice Apr 24 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    @ThePracticalDev Idea office set-up 1. Comfortable chair 2. Snacks 3. Music/ @Coffitivity 4. Dumbbells/Pull-up Bar 5. Door #DevDiscuss
  • DanFellini Apr 24 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    To be honest, in an open space, I feel like more of an outcast than I would if I had an office with a door mostly open. To maintain concentration, most days I just have to wear headphones 90% of the time. I never hear what's going on in the day-to-day. #devdiscuss
  • braidn Apr 24 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    - Spaces where people can break free and be themselves. - A completely open space with no ceiling. Basically a barn style open office - Absolutely. Work remotely and have a personal office, built to be great. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss, an hour-long Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is ✨ Ideal office setups ✨ Let's get the chat started. - What makes for a great office environment? - What makes for a less-than-ideal office environment? - Are you happy with your personal setup?
  • venikunche Apr 24 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    ideal: working remotely; gives me the calm & flexibility I need less-than-ideal: an open office sounds terrifying for an introvert like me personal setup: I work from home! nanny comes over to take care of baby girl. I don't worry & I can be there for her if needed #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • emmaoobo Apr 24 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    My personal workspace. Makes me feel relaxed while still being productive. Heard good things about the benefits of having plants so I got some. And I’m definitely reaping the benefits #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Programazing Apr 24 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Check out my website/blog at https://t.co/4DAQVTUa1s #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Apr 24 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    The ideal office setup for a software engineer is a one with a small office for when they need privacy, a 5-7 people open space for when they need collaboration and a cubicle for the rest. All walls should be whiteboards or windows. #DevDiscuss
  • IgnoreIntuition Apr 24 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    You gotta keep that table locked down #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @davidbrunelle
  • iTMayzIII Apr 24 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Having worked in both open and closed office areas I definitely prefer open areas with the option to go to a closed area. In other words, I prefer to default to a place where I can collaborate and work together with an option to have a place to think and focus. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • NickHodges Apr 24 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Ideal office: https://t.co/MKznvExF0H #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Apr 24 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    #devdiscuss
    In reply to @IgnoreIntuition, @davidbrunelle
  • lpasqualis Apr 24 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    In the ideal office space, all desks go up and down to allow for work standing or sitting. All lights are individually dimmable, coffee is abundant and healthy snacks always available #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Apr 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • lpasqualis Apr 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Also, the ideal work environment has people with low ego, open, friendly, an even gender distribution, a variety of ethnical background and a lot of laughter and support #devdiscuss
  • iamnandan Apr 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss My ideal workspace would be office always, WFH is always a myth for me 😁
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kaydacode Apr 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Once upon a time I was terrified of an open office. But I’ve honestly come to love the communication and collaboration that comes out of it. #DevDiscuss
  • IgnoreIntuition Apr 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Got the Cholula and the Tabasco. Nice #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @davidbrunelle, @shannon_crabill
  • kaydacode Apr 24 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Although I enjoy working from home one day a week, any more then that is too lonely. Evan as an introvert, i enjoy being around like minded people. #DevDiscuss
  • DanFellini Apr 24 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    In my quest to learn Python, I wrote a script that completely replicates my live WordPress environment from production onto my dev laptop. Meaning, I don't have to use an outdated environment for dev anymore! It's HOT I tell ya. HOT!. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kaydacode Apr 24 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Anyone enjoy working next to a ping pong table? 😂 #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Apr 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    I paid off one of my student loans in full today! Biggest boss move since I submitted my resignation letter to go to a coding bootcamp #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • aaronchall Apr 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Mini tweet project to prove namespace packages are a thing in a one-liner - it was fun to write: https://t.co/FO8eTU5xBl #python #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
    • aaronchall Apr 24 @ 2:04 PM EDT
      Create, import from, and delete a namespace package - one line, one command prompt: $ python -c "from pathlib import Path; Path('ns').mkdir(); Path('ns/mod.py').write_text('''print('https://t.co/SYLywt17Lu')'''); import ns.mod; from shutil import rmtree; rmtree('ns')" #python
  • philnash Apr 24 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I’m late to the chat but I have it pretty ideal, remote home office and soon an office I can choose to go to if I want to see other people. It’s glorious! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jkoenin Apr 24 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    From an old dev, make sure you get the ergonomics right. You spend too many hours at the keyboard to mess around. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @harry_wood, @ThePracticalDev