#HackLearning Archive
#HackLearning is a weekly live chat. Sundays at 8:30 AM ET. We solve big problems with simple ideas. hacklearning.org.
Sunday May 29, 2016
8:30 AM EDT
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:30 AM EDT
Welcome to another
#HackLearning
chat. Our topic is End of Year Grades. Let's start with introductions.
https://t.co/DL5OAElpLm
Mr_B_Teacher
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:30 AM EDT
It's true! I received
@mssackstein
"Hacking Assessment" two days later!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/16yKJa43p0
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:22 AM EDT
YES, indeed! TRUTH! Ask
@Mr_B_Teacher
it worked for him!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/sK0wHtcRxh
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 5:33 AM EDT
Can this be right? A free
#HackLearning
book for every single person who. . .
https://t.co/GtCOfW7qPj
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:30 AM EDT
Good morning
#hacklearning
Excited to share this time with you
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:30 AM EDT
These people are all in
#HackLearning
chat right now... LIVE!
https://t.co/XvM3MRgvmp
LeeAraoz
May 29 @ 8:29 AM EDT
SURROUND yourself with people who talk about VISIONS and IDEAS, not other people.
#HackLearning
#sunchat
https://t.co/sKN6hplEbz
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:31 AM EDT
I represent the
#hacklearning
team and
https://t.co/H2NtLvVTSb
@mssackstein
and I are your moderators today.
https://t.co/sPnZpd5L0E
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:31 AM EDT
Yay, time to
#hacklearning
!
https://t.co/gdKGh2NEzT
charrod
May 29 @ 8:31 AM EDT
Cary Harrod Cincinnati, OH.Goingback to the classroom after 10 years as an Instructional Technology Specialist. Cannot. Wait.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:31 AM EDT
Good morning. Starr from NY - HS English teacher and author of
#HackingAssessment
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:31 AM EDT
An A is not an A.... it might be a B+ in another teacher's gradebook.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/KMdFs8fpPV
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:29 AM EDT
What's In An "A"? A Grade of Any Other Letter Doesn't Smell As Sweet - - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/qKYLx6OgED
#hacklearning
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Hi! Kim from Raleigh, third grade!
#hacklearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Hello from NJ. My name is Janine - glad to discuss this important topic!
#hacklearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
I'm Connie Hamilton, Curriculum Director,
#HackLearning
Team member in Mich. Ready to Hack the End of Year Grades.
https://t.co/YjDbWYXwJe
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Our fast-paced chat will be 3 questions in 23 minutes. Use A1 to respond to Q1 & remember to include hashtag
#HackLearning
in all tweets.
smbpinky
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Good morning! Shelly Stephens in Colorado. 7th ELA, mentor, Hack Learning Ambassador, PD Instructor.
#HackLearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Mike in Buffalo, NY here!
#HackLearning
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Hello,
#HackLearning
. I'm Naomi Austin former secondary ELA T turned Elem.admin. Lifetime learner. So happy to join the conversation today.
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Good morning
#HackLearning
4th grade teacher from CA
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Good morning
#hacklearning
Brian, HS English teacher from WI, ready to hack end of year grades
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
@JanineCaffrey
Hi Janine. So glad you could join us
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
@charrod
Hi Cary. Thanks for joining
#HackLearning
today
froehlichm
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Hey
#HackLearning
! Mandy - Tech Integrator, PR for
@OSHEdCamp
& Adjunct for Instructional Tech for UWO - Wisconsin. Excited to be here!
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
@kimmykcollins
Hi Kim. Thanks for joining us on
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
@mssackstein
So glad to be chatting with you today!
#hacklearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
Pumped for another rapid fire
#HackLearning
chat. Joining from hot and humid
#Cle
ElisaW5
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
Good morning!
#HackLearning
Elisa, 5th grade T in Quito, Ecuador.
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
@smbpinky
Thanks for being in
#HackLearning
today.
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
Good morning Kathy from Barnet, Vermont
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
.
@conniehamilton
Love to see my future partner in homework crime!
#HackingHomework
#hacklearning
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
I'm Brian in CO. I teach MS Ss English & ask rhetorical questions such as, "Who doesn't like to
#hacklearning
?"
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
@smbpinky
Good morning Shelly. Thanks for joining us on
#hacklearning
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
Great to be here from
#HackLearning
today!
@mssackstein
is an
#EduHero
!
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
@markbarnes19
Life moves pretty fast
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
@fisher1000
Morning Mike. Great to see you in
#hacklearning
AnnetteSweeney
May 29 @ 8:34 AM EDT
@AnnetteSweeney
first grade, Edmonton AB Canada
#HackLearning
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:34 AM EDT
Amy- Elementary Principal Illinois- glad to be learning today!
#HackLearning
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:34 AM EDT
Good morning! Crystal in NC
#HackLearning
DickeyNHS
May 29 @ 8:34 AM EDT
Morning All Andrew, Northwood OH
#HackLearning
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
Here's one of my teammates!
@fisher1000
is HACKY!
#HackingTheCommonCore
#HackLearning
https://t.co/XPiK0EL1D9
https://t.co/X5GN54n2AF
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
Thanks
@hackmylearning
! That's my hack move with
#CelebrateMonday
!
#HackLearning
is a game changer!
https://t.co/R6DwenqYK7
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:28 AM EDT
We did and cherish you. You've hacked the week by
#celebratemonday
focus!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/IqNX1Kn6FY
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:25 AM EDT
#HackLearning
is around the corner with
@mssackstein
in five minutes!I truly dig and cherish this chat!
@hackmylearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@ElisaW5
Yes! This
#HackLearning
chat is global!
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
Hi Naomi.!
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@craigyen
Good morning Craig. I don't think you sleep
#hacklearning
MrPChick
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
Good morning
#HackLearning
Paul, hs science T from SE MN
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
Some very cool eduheroes here today.
#HackLearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
#sleepisoverrated
#hacklearning
https://t.co/qZSCKKBg3c
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@craigyen
Good morning Craig. I don't think you sleep
#hacklearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
Hi... a
#TMchat
regular.
#HackLearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@hackmylearning
I made it! And am fully awake!!!
#HackLearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
Hi everyone! I'm Mike, a HS English and ESL T in TN!
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:35 AM EDT
@craigyen
Thanks for joining
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
@DickeyNHS
Good morning Andrew and welcome to
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
Kicking off
#HackLearning
with Q1 in one minute.
https://t.co/UZdCPBdKGg
teddygriffin01
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
Justin in Queensland Australia. Year 5 Teacher. So happy to stay up late for this chat.
#HackLearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
Good Morning from the Chicago area! Looking forward to a beautiful Sunday. My coffee and I are ready to go.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
@EdLead670
Good morning Crystal and welcome to
#hacklearning
LeeAraoz
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
Good morning,
#HackLearning
I'm Lee, an instructional technology coordinator/coach from NY.
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
Wow…Worldwide participation for
#HackLearning
this morning!
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
Here's a guy who knows about grading too! Follow him for HACKY tips on
#sblchat
.
#Hacklearning
https://t.co/C32DpuHIBl
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:32 AM EDT
Good morning
#hacklearning
Brian, HS English teacher from WI, ready to hack end of year grades
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
I feel like that last scene in wizard of oz. You were there, and you were there, and you were there. Luv it.
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:36 AM EDT
@froehlichm
@OSHEdCamp
Hi Mandy.
#HackLearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Don't miss Hacking
#Assessment
by
@mssackstein
in eBook, paperback & audiobook
https://t.co/i8ZVSomBgK
#HackLearning
https://t.co/RQGzSBuUeh
froehlichm
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
@polonerd
Hey Sean! Good morning! :)
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Hi Science Lady!
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Q1: How do you currently determine end of year grades?
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Our books go hand in hand
#hacklearning
#edchat
#CCLS
#hackingassessment
https://t.co/oUc9a8KCok
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Happy to join
#HackLearning
for the first time this morning.High school French teacher near Charlotte.Last week of school is coming up next!
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
A1: In my classes, students grade themselves based on mastery and their understanding of the standards
#hacklearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
So much learning happens when
@mssackstein
@conniehamilton
@smgaillard
in the room
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
Anxious for these ttwo to kick out
#HackingHomework
... who wants to ready THAT
#HackLearning
book??
https://t.co/AnnFn9tqbq
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:33 AM EDT
.
@conniehamilton
Love to see my future partner in homework crime!
#HackingHomework
#hacklearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
A1: Many of the schools I work with use 10 wks of assignments + End of year tests or projects. Very little portfolios…
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
@AnnetteSweeney
Good morning Annette.
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
@msfrenchteach
Hey Cristy! That's awesome! This chat is really great.
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
@EdLead670
Hi Crystal.
#Hacklearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
A1 My regular Eng. classes had traditional grading but my hon. classes determined their own grades. Expanding
#TTOG
next yrear
#HackLearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:38 AM EDT
@froehlichm
Good morning Mandy
#HackLearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
A1) We take a look at what they have completed through the year with some portfolio work and combine it with quizzes or tests.
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
@DickeyNHS
HI Andrew.
#HackLearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
for elementary special ed -. There is pressure to use state standards but better IMO to use IEP
#hacklearning
https://t.co/rBmtoMcw2l
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Q1: How do you currently determine end of year grades?
#hacklearning
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
A1 We ask Ts to average the four 9 wks grades and the final exam counts as 20% of the grade. Totally traditional
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
@MrPChick
More science edus!
@KRScienceLady
and Paul!
#HackLearning
DickeyNHS
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
Q1-Q2 40% each Final exam 20%... Same for Semester 2. EOY grade is the combo avg.
#HackLearning
charrod
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
@lanihall
Thanks, Lani! Hope all is well with you!
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
@mike_stein33
Welcome to
#HackLearning
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
@mssackstein
@conniehamilton
Add you to the mix, too!
#CelebrateKathy
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1 Sadly it is formulaic with %ages and weighting. You have no idea how much I'll be hacking this next yr.
#hacklearning
KincerLisa
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
Lisa, sliding in ten minutes late...sorry!
#hacklearning
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
What the pacing guide says for Q4, elementary life!
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
HEEEYYY
#HackLearning
. My coffee is getting cold. I don't even have time to take a sip trying to keep up!
https://t.co/4GFxb1nubC
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1: We're FAR away from Hacking grades 40% 3rd Q 40% 4th Q 20% Final Exam. Although some Ts are doing projects instead of exam
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
@fisher1000
me too! maybe 6 but it was the sun
#hacklearning
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1) we are standards based. Need help developing a new system to replace A and A/B honor roll
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
Retweet Q1 for
#HackLearning
https://t.co/CI6sIVFvbc
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Q1: How do you currently determine end of year grades?
#hacklearning
ElisaW5
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1 I look at the progress Ss have made from the last marking period. We use a 1 - 4 grading system so somewhat limited.
#HackLearning
froehlichm
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1 When I taught, we worked off point values/percentages. Not saying that's right, but that was the district requirement.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
@smgaillard
Thanks Sean...
#hacklearning
smbpinky
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1: Ss submit & reflect on a portfolio of work that is associated with goals they set previously. They discuss their grades.
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@hackmylearning
@mssackstein
Listening in on how teachers determine end of yr grades, Starr.
#HackLearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
A1: To follow lead of
#HackLearning
author
@mssackstein
, we've moving away from point based grading and using rubrics.
#HackLearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
A1: To follow lead of
#HackLearning
author
@mssackstein
, we've moving away from point based grading and using rubrics.
#HackLearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
.
@fisher1000
Not good. They need to investigate
@FreshGrade
.
https://t.co/WngfXJJhhY
#HackLearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
I worry about "gaming" aspect of grades for some kids.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
We love
#Teachers
. Share and get 2 great
#education
books for price of 1
https://t.co/QTeGHs2l0C
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@msfrenchteach
Thanks for being here, Cristy.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@DickeyNHS
averages can be problematic, but I understand
#hacklearning
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@craigyen
Do you use a rubric for the portfolio?
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
Carol Eng Lang Arts (ELA) Consultant from Long Island here at
#HackLearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
I think it’s like that right now for most. Tells more abt behaviors and rote memory than true knowledge transfer.
#HackLearning
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
Looking forward to learning from others on this vital topic as an educator & lead learner.
#hacklearning
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
A1: as a Principal I see diff prac. Ideally, based on S's most recent knowledge of standard.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/c1ELX0Dv4f
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Q1: How do you currently determine end of year grades?
#hacklearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@fisher1000
Great for making learning transparent and assessment of learning ongoing
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
@polonerd
Hey Sean. I did huge project at the end this yr 2 offset mandatory exams. It's nice and giving them choice/control.
#hacklearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
How do you feel about that traditional way of grading?
#HackLearning
https://t.co/h9bme3KXau
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
A1 We ask Ts to average the four 9 wks grades and the final exam counts as 20% of the grade. Totally traditional
#HackLearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
A1 I keep trying to convince other growth minded Ts to throw out grades, but so far no luck. I have promoted Assessment 3.0
#HackLearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
Talk to kids daily about learning. Then end-of-year assessment is easy
#HackLearning
https://t.co/87BXxrYA4H
MikeSaracini
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
Hi everyone! Sorry I'm going late! Mike Saracini from Berwyn School District 100.
#HackLearning
ElisaW5
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
A1 I bring out the learning progress made in the comments, even if it doesn't translate into a grade that is "on grade level".
#HackLearning
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
Grades are determined 80%+ of the time by tasks that allow learners to look at feedback & resubmit.
#HackLearning
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
@mike_stein33
my daughters Honors ELA T assigned gobs of work in the last weeks to "keep them busy". He wasn't "babysitting"
#HackLearning
teddygriffin01
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
We do something similar as Craig, but also agonize over the Ds and Es students that always come last.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/gWrn0q9iOZ
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:39 AM EDT
A1) We take a look at what they have completed through the year with some portfolio work and combine it with quizzes or tests.
#HackLearning
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
Calculate EOY grades by looking at mode to reward consistency in each standard or most recent to reward growth over time
#Hacklearning
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
you always nail it, Pal. I'm with you. I plan on encouraging more to follow your lead in your tweet.
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
@fisher1000
I could go on for days about this.
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
@KincerLisa
There's still 2/3 left of
#HackLearning
. Pop in when you can.
daleyscience
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
A1 Grades are hard. Leaning towards feedback and self grading model for next year.
#hacklearning
.
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
A1 My overly complicated attempt to fit standards-based square peg into round gradebook hole:
https://t.co/rrnvEOC7Z1
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
Hack your PLN by following everyone in today's
#HackLearning
chat.
https://t.co/QFvr7Rnxqi
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
You and me both, sister. You and me both.
#HackLearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@EdLead670
Depends on what they put into the portfolio. It's not that sophisticated enough yet!
#HackLearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
How do you report on the standards?
#HackLearning
https://t.co/uQ6vR78jon
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1) we are standards based. Need help developing a new system to replace A and A/B honor roll
#HackLearning
JessicaBurack
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
A1: there's the cumulative factor but there's also a need 2 look at Ss holistically -
#growth
&
#SelfEvaluation
of learning
#HackLearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@froehlichm
Most still do it this way. We have to move the needle
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@smbpinky
That sounds great!
#hacklearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
Thanks honored!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/CsxVbB2PtS
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
@mssackstein
@conniehamilton
Add you to the mix, too!
#CelebrateKathy
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
Are your students involved in this process?
#hacklearning
https://t.co/bzGoNxkjUj
ElisaW5
May 29 @ 8:40 AM EDT
A1 I look at the progress Ss have made from the last marking period. We use a 1 - 4 grading system so somewhat limited.
#HackLearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
Does anyone struggle w mandates on not allowing 0 grades?
#hacklearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
How horrible! There's nothing that Ss hate more than busy work!
#HackLearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
When I taught video, my Ss had a final project (Exam) & needed to 'fix' 2 other projects - fixed Q4 grade
#HackLearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
This seems to go with our chat this morning!
#hacklearning
https://t.co/ScrsunBBwt
TeachThoughtPD
May 23 @ 7:20 AM EDT
What if, instead of test scores, schools were held accountable for the number & quality of questions students asked & pursued?
#inquiryed
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:43 AM EDT
@smgaillard
Thanks
#edubuddy
. Gotta hack that status quo sometimes.
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
Moving on to Q2 in one minute.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/5S5IYhyyCR
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@markbarnes19
Went into EOGs very calm this year and the students did fantastic. Just another day of learning!
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
A1 I gave up averages and grades, trying to give kids the freedom to talk about learning
#hacklearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
Gr8t to eliminate honor/merit roll. Hate that snobby club. Leaves out lots of good Ss who don't "play the game."
#HackLearning
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@craigyen
Makes sense. We're all trying to figure this out I believe. Change is hard and takes time
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@smbpinky
How interesting that you involve a portfolio process. Progressive with student input.
#HackLearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@craigyen
How could that be tracked?
#HackLearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
Is the standard addressed in reporting or is there a translation to grades
#HackLearning
https://t.co/JFY705jx74
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
A1: as a Principal I see diff prac. Ideally, based on S's most recent knowledge of standard.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/c1ELX0Dv4f
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:37 AM EDT
Q1: How do you currently determine end of year grades?
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@polonerd
Love! My Ss know I am the queen of amnesty. You can change any grade at any time to keep growing.
#hacklearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
@MikeSaracini
@EdTechDash
Agreed. Love that you're doing that as a Science T. What about the content? (sarcasm)
#HackLearning
smgaillard
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
that's another blog post! 😉
#HackLearning
#MeganIsMyEduHero
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
Q2: How can we involve students in the grading process to ensure their voices get heard?
#hacklearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
@conniehamilton
@mssackstein
Rubrics are amazing to use because it leads to self-reflection & ownership on part of student.
#HackLearning
A1
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
If you're having trouble keeping up with
#HackLearning
today, try this link:
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markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
@craigyen
Do you use a digital portfolio system?
#HackLearning
JessicaBurack
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
A1: wishing 4 a
#changeinculture
venture away from
#traditional
#gradingpractices
-
#21century
Ss are anything but traditional
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
@polonerd
@MikeSaracini
Ha, I know. Will someone please think of the children?
#hacklearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
Keep following that path :-)
#HackLearning
https://t.co/p0KJjRWEGS
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:41 AM EDT
A1 I keep trying to convince other growth minded Ts to throw out grades, but so far no luck. I have promoted Assessment 3.0
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
Senior student discusses her learning from AP class in end of year asses...
https://t.co/Y2zxVZeC8i
via
@YouTube
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
A2: We can start by teaching students what to look for when evaluating their own learning. Reflection helps
#Hacklearning
heywerner59
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
05:44 PST Michael HS CTE Manufacturing Granite Falls WA
#hacklearning
am I still making the grade this morning?
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
I'm curious if you said anything to that T or to the admin. As a T myself, I struggle with when to jump in & not
#HackLearning
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@conniehamilton
1-4 on essential standards. Never averaged
#HackLearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Everyone in today's chat can win a FREE
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msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@markbarnes19
@AustinELA8
#hacklearning
Playing devil's advocate here, don't those kids deserve some sort of recognition for their efforts?
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Standard.... Grades are just so subjective it's hard to see what learning occurred.
#HackLearning
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Remember, the mean is mean. We can do better than average
#Hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Now THAT'S Hacky!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/y8V7E4ORzp
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
@polonerd
Love! My Ss know I am the queen of amnesty. You can change any grade at any time to keep growing.
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@smgaillard
Thanks Sean, working on that one too. You know my concerns.
#hacklearning
SCDSB_LandT
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Why do we wait until the end of the year/course to employ professional judgement?
#hacklearning
millerpEDU
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Why do we wait until the end of the year/course to employ professional judgement?
#hacklearning
MikeSzczepanik
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
@polonerd
Ss often think that fixing previous grades are against the rules and can't be done.
#HackLearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
If you have 20% tests, 30% quizzes, etc. kids focus on grade game - not learning.
#hacklearning
https://t.co/IQrPT71rds
ElisaW5
May 29 @ 8:44 AM EDT
Can you say more about this?
https://t.co/2BCKmod4e3
cybraryman1
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
My Grading page
https://t.co/s53I4hIHZY
Student Self-Assessment is important in learning process.
#HackLearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
A2: Invite! The students are the reason the teacher is even in the room. Give them a voice about process/product/performance!
#HackLearning
MikeSaracini
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
A2: I involve students in the scoring process through reflections (score themselves) & 5 min conferences to discuss learning.
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Retweet Q2 for
#HackLearning
https://t.co/Bu96W20OZt
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
Q2: How can we involve students in the grading process to ensure their voices get heard?
#hacklearning
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
@conniehamilton
this year students will track their own data with artifacts in portfolios
#hacklearning
#sblchat
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
@ElisaW5
This "gamification" gets especially bad in competitive HSs
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
Yes we can. We need to do standards and conversations
#hacklearning
https://t.co/ZphJgkh3ki
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Remember, the mean is mean. We can do better than average
#Hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
@MikeSzczepanik
@polonerd
No way man, growth and improvement are never against the rules. In fact, that's the whole point!
#hacklearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
@msfrenchteach
@AustinELA8
How do we know they worked any harder than the C student? Grades are false labels.
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
Don't mean to bust your bubble, but you can't "wish" it to happen, you have to make it happen.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/NrUUF3R8XN
JessicaBurack
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
A1: wishing 4 a
#changeinculture
venture away from
#traditional
#gradingpractices
-
#21century
Ss are anything but traditional
#HackLearning
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
@JanineCaffrey
I bristled initially; now I embrace. Argument by
@rickwormeli2
was 1 persuasive factor:
https://t.co/47Q3OAKp6k
#hacklearning
JessicaBurack
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A1: what to do when
#district
grading policies determine that a number will define Ss 😕
#HackLearning
@mssackstein
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A2 Ss can help create the rubrics so they have a voice
#HackLearning
MikeSaracini
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A2: I also have students help me develop the curriculum and assessments to ensure their buy in and excitement.
#HackLearning
hkrypi
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
Good Morning everyone!
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
I'd say she knows what she's learned...
#HackLearning
https://t.co/nl2ALAs4CE
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:45 AM EDT
Senior student discusses her learning from AP class in end of year asses...
https://t.co/Y2zxVZeC8i
via
@YouTube
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
@msfrenchteach
@markbarnes19
@AustinELA8
recognition doesn't have to come in terms of a grade, I can give specific feedback
#hacklearning
smithdianemarie
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A2: Students grading their own work (w/comments or explanations) according to the rubric before handing it in
#hacklearning
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2 Feedback and reflection! Ask the students how they are doing, what do they need to do-goal setting, talk with the students
#HackLearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2) Have student evaluate and reflect and grade their own work. They can continue to improve upon their work.
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2: Grades shouldn't be done TO STUDENTS, they should be determined WITH STUDENTS.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/rmzWyoaeCT
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
I think mode is better than average but I'm still much more a "what's the evidence of learning ?"lady
#HackLearning
https://t.co/3mVv4wuh8v
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:42 AM EDT
Calculate EOY grades by looking at mode to reward consistency in each standard or most recent to reward growth over time
#Hacklearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2 We don't involve Ss in the grading process, we involve them in the evaluation process & the learning process
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
@cvarsalona
@conniehamilton
rubrics have their limitations... but they can be a great starting point
#hacklearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
@MikeSaracini
I like this idea very much! Building buy-in by making them part of the process. Works for adults too!
#HackLearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
@MikeSzczepanik
@EdTechDash
Does changing 'fixing grades' to 'updating grades' change mindset of Ts? Ss update project not fix
#HackLearning
heywerner59
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A1 I don't Ss assess all along, it's an ongoing dialog, no surprise and yes I still have to enter a grrrrrade
#hacklearning
#CTE
hkrypi
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
Q2:Offer Ss choices & options in types of projects, tasks, & assessments;collaborate with Ss in creating criteria for grading.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
Using a Rubric Does NOT Ensure Student Learning - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/Lj2fAHqISz
#hacklearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
Seriously... just listen to a podcast, write a comment and get a FREE BOOK. No gimmicks.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/FA2RcPDi8K
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Everyone in today's chat can win a FREE
#HackLearning
book. Best of all, it's soooo easy!
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daleyscience
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2 Teaching and modeling how to reflect. Such a good quality to have.
#HackLearning
LeeAraoz
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2: My students complete a self-assessment for all projects and we compare that w/ my assessment. Grades are based on BOTH.
#HackLearning
KincerLisa
May 29 @ 8:48 AM EDT
A2 Love to include Ss in self-assessment and reflection of learning - exploring how to do this!
#hacklearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
Fabulous to have the students help to create the assessment.
#hacklearning
https://t.co/pE5N9sE1AV
MikeSaracini
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A2: I also have students help me develop the curriculum and assessments to ensure their buy in and excitement.
#HackLearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
A2: Clear LTs and criteria for success allows Ss to reflect on their learning progress.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/hnPrOs1HMQ
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@smithdianemarie
Awesome idea! Definitely need to include the comments and explanation part!
#hacklearning
!
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@brianrozinsky
@rickwormeli2
Thanks for this perspective
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@hackmylearning
she needed very little focusing
#hacklearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@mssackstein
@cvarsalona
@conniehamilton
And the rubrics have to use measurable and increasingly sophisticated language.
#HackLearning
1/2
MikeSzczepanik
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@polonerd
@EdTechDash
right - I think the mindset of Ts must happen first, then Ss will follow
#HackLearning
froehlichm
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
A2 Allow for voice & choice in assessment & learning. Allow them to self-assess, be reflective, react to feedback & revision.
#hacklearning
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
A2: Self assessment, creation of rubrics, conversations, goal setting, asking for input. Anything to get S's on board!
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
A2 They have to b invlvd. MUST hack this. Self assess, and meet 1/1 w T to reflect and settle on final "grade".
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
We have to try to change what we can. No one else in my school does what I do
#hacklearning
https://t.co/1T8hvwritB
JessicaBurack
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A1: what to do when
#district
grading policies determine that a number will define Ss 😕
#HackLearning
@mssackstein
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@mssackstein
@cvarsalona
@conniehamilton
Can’t be full of subjectivities and likes/dislikes or behavioral elements.
#HackLearning
2/2
JessicaBurack
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
A2: create a
#classroomculture
that requires Ss 2
#reflect
#revise
#revisit
#setgoals
- it's their grades! Give Ss
#ownership
#HackLearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
Great way to make Ss own the assessment process.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/sySrgE7DcK
smithdianemarie
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A2: Students grading their own work (w/comments or explanations) according to the rubric before handing it in
#hacklearning
smbpinky
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
A2: Every day we talk about learning and standards-related ideas. When we talk about grades, we talk effort.
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
@JessicaBurack
Need has been in the field for years. Rubric eval is a strong approach if done with Student growth in mind.
#HackLearning
A1
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@EdLead670
I tried this w/8th graders & writing rubric:
https://t.co/BzDABeIAOz
Felt useful & informed subsequent dialogue.
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
Whoever brings the most Kleenex or turns assignments in a day early for extra credit is the smartest.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/ZCfVLzRY82
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Standard.... Grades are just so subjective it's hard to see what learning occurred.
#HackLearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
Good question
#HackLearning
I don't think that most do
https://t.co/ZuXXl98oeH
millerpEDU
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Why do we wait until the end of the year/course to employ professional judgement?
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@MikeSzczepanik
@polonerd
Absolutely
#hacklearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Part of my frustration is my colleagues see the benefits of throwing out grades, but aren't ready to take leap
#HackLearning
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
A2 Hack the final exam. Have learners craft an argument for their final grade. Support with evidence of consistency or growth
#HackLearning
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@daleyscience
So important to model how to reflect and how to write action steps for goals!
#HackLearning
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@markbarnes19
@AustinELA8
#hacklearning
True. A "C" is an "A" for some kids. Grades do need to disappear.
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
Somebody put that on a poster and laminate it, please!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/StpFGsfUTy
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Remember, the mean is mean. We can do better than average
#Hacklearning
hkrypi
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
Q2: Ss Self-assessment rubrics are also a great way to involve Ss in grading.
#HackLearning
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@msfrenchteach
@markbarnes19
we are working on something like Super Student awards based on growth.
#HackLearning
janeinjava
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
My 10yr old has experience both systems. He said for exams you just focus on the answers but with inquiry you actually learn.
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:50 AM EDT
@fisher1000
@mssackstein
@conniehamilton
Rubric writing is an art that does need precise wording 2 accomplish its end goal.
#HackLearning
A1
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@fisher1000
@cvarsalona
@conniehamilton
I hate when folks have something in there for creativity
#ugh
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
Q3 is our last question this morning and is coming in one minute.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/PIwpRALSus
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@polonerd
@MikeSzczepanik
Yeah, I don't do extra credit. You want to improve grade, go further in your understanding & show me
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
Gotta love a GREAT rhetorical question!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/YZLfsr4u5k
millerpEDU
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Why do we wait until the end of the year/course to employ professional judgement?
#hacklearning
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
@markbarnes19
#hacklearning
Haha. Yeah, I was like, "That's it?"
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@mssackstein
Revolutionize it!
#hacklearning
drangelapeery
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@polonerd
I used that strategy years ago w my HS students. Worked well. Also required a "final draft reflection sheet"
#HackLearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@mssackstein
@cvarsalona
@conniehamilton
Me too. And neatness. Neatness drives me crazy!!!
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@mssackstein
@fisher1000
@conniehamilton
Hard to measure creativity
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@ElisaW5
It helps. We teach them, they inform us
#hacklearning
DickeyNHS
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
A2- I've let students help create rubrics, peer evals, test evals and determine the validity of certain Qs
#HackLearning
DennisDill
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
@mssackstein
I have a different set of expectations for different students ...Is that the best they can give me at this time?
#hacklearning
AndyArcand
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
A2: Have students self-evaluate using a question-based single-point rubric. Then comment on it.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/CFS6jQqzcu
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
Setting learning N meaningful context, provide relevant learning opportunities
#HackLearning
https://t.co/zEaVoSn6ln
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:49 AM EDT
Fabulous to have the students help to create the assessment.
#hacklearning
https://t.co/pE5N9sE1AV
MikeSaracini
May 29 @ 8:47 AM EDT
A2: I also have students help me develop the curriculum and assessments to ensure their buy in and excitement.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
Q3: Why is it essential to include students in the grading process?
#HackLearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
@fisher1000
@mssackstein
@conniehamilton
Neatness-old school lingo
#HackLearning
millerpEDU
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
A2 Be transparent: talk openly with students about how observations, conversations and products are all valid assessment data.
#hacklearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
@drangelapeery
That's awesome. Love when Ts are ahead of the curve themselves. Now those reflections become part of portfolios
#HackLearning
janeinjava
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
My 10yr old has experienced both systems. He said with exams you just focus on the answers, with inquiry you actually learn.
#HackLearning
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
#hacklearning
A2: Quick questionnaires periodically are one way to spend little time finding out what learners are thinking.
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
@fisher1000
@cvarsalona
@conniehamilton
me too! what does that have to do with learning?
#hacklearning
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
@mssackstein
The 1st paragraph here grabbed me: less about the WHAT of assessment (e.g., rubric), more about the HOW & WHY.
#hacklearning
daleyscience
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
Profound statement.
#hacklearning
https://t.co/BgNt2fkULD
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:51 AM EDT
Gotta love a GREAT rhetorical question!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/YZLfsr4u5k
millerpEDU
May 29 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Why do we wait until the end of the year/course to employ professional judgement?
#hacklearning
WisteMolly
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
#HackLearning
here is what I have been trying: learning goals, and student reflection
https://t.co/lv9CMXPTbz
froehlichm
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
@mike_stein33
@KRScienceLady
Part of issue is official support needs to come at the district level for Ts to feel ok w/change.
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
.
@DennisDill
exactly. We have to know our kids so we can give them each what they need. Pushing or pulling!
#hacklearning
smbpinky
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A2.2- We talk about effort because effort multiplies talent to create skills and effort multiplies skills into achievement.
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A3 We talk about the importance of being a reflective learner, but then leave them out of the ultimate reflection? No sense
#hacklearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
Here's why it's essential to include students in the grading process. Perfect!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/alfaVyIbOG
https://t.co/iCGS8uDlOG
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
@markbarnes19
#hacklearning
That sounds GREAT!
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
Ss must be involved as they are the ones who know what they know and can do and it should be about the leanring not the grade
#Hacklearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
@fisher1000
@mssackstein
@conniehamilton
Hi there Mike. Long time since we've spoken.
#HackLearning
sandeeteach
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
No grading here! Just feedback from peers in kid edcamp
https://t.co/fK6J2jfS7g
Student engagement/empowerment!
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
@brianrozinsky
yes and who is designing them. Kids should be a part of the process
#hacklearning
markbarnes19
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
@msfrenchteach
awarding learning is a risky business. Ultimately someone is left out.
#hacklearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A2 Students need to know what they are striving for, clarity of learning goals & criteria critical
#HackLearning
RossCoops31
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
Because we want students to learn, not have grades be something "that are done to them."
#HackLearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
Q3 Self-reflection is so critical to success in life.
#hacklearning
Rogers_Suzanne
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
@hackmylearning
@mssackstein
q2 Ss can help develop rubrics, peer review,
@plickers
#HackLearning
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A3 So they know expectations, have an opp to revise work to improve grade based on T exp
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
@sandeeteach
Kid edcamp!! So cool!
#hacklearning
mike_stein33
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A3 Ss need 2 be included in the eval. process because the metacog. thinking helps them grow as lifelong learners
#HackLearning
DickeyNHS
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A3 they're doing the work.....who best to explain how they came up with the answers
#HackLearning
SylviaEllison
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
It builds a culture for learning ... So that we have 26 teachers and 26 learners in the classroom
#HackLearning
https://t.co/YHcpE2sikW
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
Q3: Why is it essential to include students in the grading process?
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
reflection is huge
#hacklearning
https://t.co/pgR0oVwqOl
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:53 AM EDT
A3 We talk about the importance of being a reflective learner, but then leave them out of the ultimate reflection? No sense
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
....and
#HackLearning
is TRENDING again. Third week in a row. I'll bet we do next week with
@AngelaStockman
too!
https://t.co/LXwT8t1EUw
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3: How can Ss improve themselves if they're not part of the evaluation process in the first place?
#HackLearning
https://t.co/0UubQ2Sf6x
janeinjava
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
Assessment is only useful when it informs the learner so they can learn from it. Why is it done mostly at the end of a unit?
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
Deepen Reflection, Deepen Learning - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/gFp5R5sAGi
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
Teaching Reflection in steps - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/4brbLT2k0o
#hacklearning
charrod
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
One of the wisest questions comes from Alan November: Who owns the learning?
#HackLearning
MikeSaracini
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3: It's THEIR learning, It's THEIR understanding. Who am I to say what you know and what your grade should be.
#HackLearning
smithdianemarie
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A2(comment):Anyone run into trouble w/ kids overestimating self-evaluation? I've found ss have been incredibly accurate/honest
#hacklearning
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3) Essential to include students in grading procss so they have ownership, care, and understand their own growth.
#hacklearning
AndyArcand
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3: Why: We want to empower Ss—not simply “teach” them. How: S voice & choice—assignments, evaluations, etc.
#HackLearning
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3 This is their learning! They need to be a part of their own learning process-ownership, buy-in, set goals, reflective
#hacklearning
teachlib
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
I've moved to single column rubrics. More feedback space. Less writing all over the page.
#hacklearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3: If Ss aren't included in grading, how do they still own their learning? If Ts take ownership of grading Ss play blame game
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
This was such a fast 30 minutes!
#hacklearning
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A3: According to
@visiblelearning
Hattie, student reported grades has 1.41 effect size. That's HUGE!
#HackLearning
https://t.co/zKkGenvOx8
tlightrlc
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A3: Ss are often harder on themselves when assessing their own work. Reflection is important for us all.
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
@polonerd
So true. "You GAVE me a 75"
#hacklearning
LeeAraoz
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A2: I encourage my Ss to create and share evidence of learning in a variety of ways. They CHOOSE how to do this.
#HackLearning
smithdianemarie
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A3
#hacklearning
It's a way for them to feel involved in the process, to be aware of their learning, and to be able to make improvements
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
yes!!!!!
#hacklearning
https://t.co/lQiUKryW2r
teachlib
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
I've moved to single column rubrics. More feedback space. Less writing all over the page.
#hacklearning
DennisDill
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A3 When students are part of the process they buy into the process ...
#hacklearning
Bigideasinedu
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
Creating a culture and pedagogy of effective feedback embedded in social relationships
#HackLearning
#feedbackfriendly
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
#hacklearning
A3: Our learners are the reason why we're there, so, naturally, all that we do should be about them.
sandeeteach
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
It was a blast! Here are some kid reflections!
https://t.co/tADOjMyOjV
Definitely edcamp for kids next year!
#hacklearning
froehlichm
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A3 Ppl (Ss & Ts) take ownership when they feel heard in the learning process, which increases learning regardless of grades
#hacklearning
JanetChowMSc
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
@polonerd
Interesting how what we say isn't really what is acted upon
#hacklearning
SylviaEllison
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
And how can they self-assess if the criteria for mastery is unclear -
#backward
planning
#HackLearning
https://t.co/JagQnLtHDf
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
A3: How can Ss improve themselves if they're not part of the evaluation process in the first place?
#HackLearning
https://t.co/0UubQ2Sf6x
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
@DennisDill
@mssackstein
I get it but that statement scares me a little.Same bar 4 all just adjust for differentiated process
#HackLearning
tlightrlc
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Tammi from VA, sorry for coming on the back end.
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Shifting the Grading Mindset Starts With Our Words - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/Jybk3alysU
#hacklearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
The WINNER of a FREE
#HackLearning
book for participating in today's chat is.....
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
@polonerd
Right. On. Point! Time to stop blaming and take ownership!
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
@sandeeteach
truly can't wait to read this, thank you for the inspiration
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Writing a Non-Grading Policy For Your School - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/KronOaYxCn
#hacklearning
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
@RESP3CTtheGAME
I asked Ss this yr to crowd-source study guides. Fascinating S pushback re: "Just tell us what to learn."
#hacklearning
MrDataGuy
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
A3 The grading process must reflect/inform the learning process, and support the student as a learner. Too often disconnected
#hacklearning
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
And so many Ts will complain about those comments, but they don't hand the grading to the Ss either.
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Are you tired of grading student work because it doesn't adequately communicate learning?
#TTOG
-
https://t.co/XTl7X3ARH6
#hacklearning
smbpinky
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
A3: Ss should be involved in the content, process, products, goals, evaluations - every part!
#HackLearning
JanetChowMSc
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
@teachlib
I love single col rubrics. More possibilities at the upper end 4 Ss to extend beyond us
#Hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Dangers of Focusing Solely on Grading | WJPS Publications: voice of the students
https://t.co/UPYbk9t6yZ
#hacklearning
#stuvoice
kimmykcollins
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
@mssackstein
Saw this yesterday! Love it! Such a great reminder! Needs to be in all classes!
#HackLearning
daleyscience
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
A3 Buy in and responsibility for learning.
#HackLearning
iamvlewis
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
That's right.
#hacklearning
https://t.co/UgcdohWSdm
DennisDill
May 29 @ 8:55 AM EDT
A3 When students are part of the process they buy into the process ...
#hacklearning
fisher1000
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
A3: If students involved in grading process, particularly if beyond just summative, learning becomes focal pnt, not grade.
#HackLearning
JanetChowMSc
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
@smithdianemarie
Opportunity for conversation
#hacklearning
JanineCaffrey
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
Love this idea!
#hacklearning
https://t.co/5IXJRoCIk8
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Writing a Non-Grading Policy For Your School - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/KronOaYxCn
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
When Students Design The Assessment, Everyone Wins - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/GxyK7DBw2y
#hacklearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
I am so w you
#HackLearning
we should be assessing & making instructional decisions minute by minute
#HackLearning
https://t.co/WpAq6RcKMb
janeinjava
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
Assessment is only useful when it informs the learner so they can learn from it. Why is it done mostly at the end of a unit?
#HackLearning
KRScienceLady
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
I am so w you
#HackLearning
we should be assessing & making instructional decisions minute by minute
#HackLearning
https://t.co/WpAq6RcKMb
janeinjava
May 29 @ 8:54 AM EDT
Assessment is only useful when it informs the learner so they can learn from it. Why is it done mostly at the end of a unit?
#HackLearning
RESP3CTtheGAME
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
Sample of how to make sense of final grades in a traditional system - shared w Ss & Ps
https://t.co/Ce7gDRmeZX
#HackLearning
tlightrlc
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
@mssackstein
You are so right. Is it about what Ss learn or about checking off a letter to be "done?"
#HackLearning
MrPChick
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
A3: Ss need to know about their learning process, reflect on their learning, know their strengths, own their progress
#hacklearning
teachlib
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
I don't put a mark on rubrics the 1st time I hand them back. Chance to improve work.
#HackLearning
teddygriffin01
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
A2 Attempt to use success criteria but with many subject & many criteria becomes cumbersome and hard to manage esp for stds
#HackLearning
DerekRhodenizer
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
@DennisDill
when the process belongs to the students they don't need to buy in, because there is ownership
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
The WINNER of a FREE
#HackLearning
book for participating in today's chat is.....
@EdChatRL
David Pollard
https://t.co/IkXf57s6LN
AustinELA8
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@markbarnes19
@msfrenchteach
maybe it should be based on attendance, no referrals, and citizenship instead of grades
#hacklearning
millerpEDU
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
A3 Student learning motivated by a grade is artificial. Self reflection and feedback make learning iterative and meaningful.
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@JanineCaffrey
It was a valiant effort this year...
#deafears
#hacklearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
Would love to start a regular meeting time with Ss to discuss and reflect on learning. 46 min classes are tough
#goals
#hacklearning
DennisDill
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
@mssackstein
there is a "bar" but I have a kid who can't read and a kid capable of reading college text
#hacklearning
1/2
heywerner59
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
A3 just like the working world "skin in the game" and - they are the clients -
#hacklearning
#CTE
conniehamilton
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
Congrats, David.
#HackLearning
https://t.co/dZvKH4UrIL
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:57 AM EDT
The WINNER of a FREE
#HackLearning
book for participating in today's chat is.....
@EdChatRL
David Pollard
https://t.co/IkXf57s6LN
EdLead670
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
Love this
@mssackstein
#hacklearning
https://t.co/GGMRifXAAe
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:56 AM EDT
Shifting the Grading Mindset Starts With Our Words - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/Jybk3alysU
#hacklearning
edcampGlobal
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
Sign up for these virtual edcamps in July!
#ECG2016
&
#EdcampVoxer
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#sunchat
#HackLearning
https://t.co/XXUspJ6LBC
craigyen
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
Yeah, I struggle with the conferring with student piece.
#hacklearning
https://t.co/vpBNNSFbV4
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
Would love to start a regular meeting time with Ss to discuss and reflect on learning. 46 min classes are tough
#goals
#hacklearning
cvarsalona
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@mssackstein
@DennisDill
#hacklearning
https://t.co/uUzU2NjXcn
Bigideasinedu
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@JanetChowMSc
@teachlib
agreed. Hold Ss to same high standards, but provide meaningful feedback based on individual learning
#HackLearning
EdTechDash
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@millerpEDU
Agree. How can I memorize this to get an A for today.
#hacklearning
DennisDill
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
@mssackstein
we can't have the same set of expectations for both ... someone will get left behind.
#hacklearning
ElisaW5
May 29 @ 8:58 AM EDT
A2 Ss convos or written reflections about what grade they deserve and why.
#HackLearning
Amy_MacCrindle
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
A3: If we don't include S's it's seen as something that is done to them... What's the point then?
#hacklearning
https://t.co/3hMZpdeLf6
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:52 AM EDT
Q3: Why is it essential to include students in the grading process?
#HackLearning
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
Next week,
@angelastockman
will be the
#HackLearning
guest moderator, leading chat on Hacking The Writing Workshop.
https://t.co/JdPOy0r5XF
hackmylearning
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
Join me in thanking
@mssackstein
for moderating
#HackLearning
today.
https://t.co/UPYrOIbo0p
polonerd
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
We can't do student centered classrooms unless Ss are involved in EVERY step of the process. Very difficult to change mindset
#HackLearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
.
@tlightrlc
every child can... We just need to figure out what it is with them. The grade means nothing
#hacklearning
MrDataGuy
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
@KRScienceLady
and making the learning and progress visible to the learner. Showing them YES I can do this.
#hacklearning
JanetChowMSc
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
Spend the first 10 or the last 10 on it. If you value it you'll get it in there
#hacklearning
brianrozinsky
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
A3 In a word, agency. Own the learning process, understand & control it, rather than feeling manipulated or victimized.
#hacklearning
mssackstein
- Moderator
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
@EdLead670
Thanks!
#hacklearning
MrPChick
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
@EdTechDash
a great reason to rethink the traditional school day
#hacklearning
msfrenchteach
May 29 @ 8:59 AM EDT
@AustinELA8
@markbarnes19
#hacklearning
That wouldn't be any more "comfortable." Many variables & still a system where one can't reach goal.