#iaedchat Archive
Run by Iowa educators, #IAedchat is on Twitter the first, second, and third Sundays each month at 8:00pm CST. We have added #IAedchat LIVE to the fourth Sunday of the month at 8:00pm CST. This will take place in Google Hangout on Air. We will share the invitation and link to #IAedchat LIVE each month.
Sunday August 7, 2016
Good evening & welcome everyone! My tweets for the next hour are dedicated to
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Good evening & welcome to ! I’m excited about the next hour of learning - The Productive Struggle: Are they struggling enough?
Our topic is “The Productive Struggle: Are they Struggling Enough?”
Your co-moderators for tonight’s are and
Your co-moderators for tonight’s are and
Hello everyone! Steven, a Middle School Assistant Principal from Missouri
Hello and good evening, HS SPED from Akron, Oh
Take a moment to introduce yourself, your role in schools, and where you are tweeting from tonight.
Intriguing topic - Dave joining from Ankeny.
Hello from Wyoming. Brant, MS Principal, glad to be back with the peeps.
Brett from Osky 6th Grade Sci, Math, and SS. Looking forward to tonight AND the new year!
Mark here, elementary principal in God's country, Minnesota!
Good evening, Steven and welcome!
Hello! Laura, 9th grade English teacher in Ankeny
Good evening Tim, elementary principal, from suburbs of Chicago.
Todd from NY- HS assistant principal. Good evening friends!😊
Rachel, K-6 librarian/enrichment from Iowa City.
Brendan. Instructional Coach in the . (Metro Raleigh, NC) Happy to learn w/ the Iowan educators this evening!
We’re glad you’re here! Welcome to !! Please introduce yourself. What is something you’ve struggled with before?
Nancy Sulla here at ; creator of ; author of and ;
Pres. NJ/FL
Hello everyone! Josh Smith, starting 1st day as Elementary Principal at Keota Elementary tomorrow
Eric Ewald, PK-6 Principal . Trying to check-in to for a bit, tonight
Good evening all! Julie, a high school math teacher at West High in Iowa City!! Go Trojans!
Joe, Superintedent from NE Ohio.
Welcome, Laura. We are grateful to have you this evening!
Kim from Edmonton Alberta - principal in a francophone high school.
Thanks for having me, always excited for another great
Colin Wikan...Dean of Students at Bettendorf HS. Tweeting at you from Bettendorf, IA.
Hi All! Nick, principal of in Cedar Rapids, where ! Looking forward to learning with you all.
Hey there ! Todd, Elem principal in CA! Looking forward to a great chat...while watching the Olympics!
Good to see you back for more, Todd!
I'm moderating from beautiful Gull Lake in Minnesota! Glad you are here! https://t.co/ylxBONUKCK
Mark here, elementary principal in God's country, Minnesota!
Home of you all know one another? ;) (I tease!) https://t.co/eo6DlsHzXZ
Colin Wikan...Dean of Students at Bettendorf HS. Tweeting at you from Bettendorf, IA.
Nick Proud, Principal checking in at but distracted by the Olympics.
There she is! Welcome, Rachel!
I will have to check it out
Evening friends. Shaelynn from Conrad, Education Service Consultant: Literacy and Tech.
Welcome back, Brendan! Grateful to have you!
Going to try and participate in both and simultaneously....my brain might 'splode!
Hi , Julia..Math teacher in Ca. !
Good evening, Nancy. Thank you for being here!
There's the man! Welcome, Eric. Great to see you on
Hi Vincent from Monterrey, Mexico :) I’m a lit consultant.
Thanks. Haven’t been here for awhile, good to be back.
it might! Could lead to some interesting tweets.
Hello, Julie! Good to see you on ! Welcome!
What up ?! Might as well hang w/ ya for a bit since is here too. Cali in the house! Elementary principal .
Glad to be here. I'll try to stay and engage as long as possible!
Awesome! Joe Clark is in the house. Great to see you here, my friend.
What a group! Q1 is coming right up!
Q1: What does productive struggle in educational settings mean to you? Please explain your answer.
LOVE IT! Any excuse I can get to hang with the amazing Amy Fadeji...
Thanks Dan! Looking forward to a great chat!
Giving out any medals tonight for best answers?
Good evening! Terese Jurgensen from Howard-Winn CSD
A1: Productive struggle means to me that Ss are being challenged & pushed outside of there boxes on a daily basis.
hi Todd! Hope you are well!
oh PLEASE! Give me a break! But yes.... baby!
A1 Challenges with permission to fail plus Supports to build failure into success.
A1: Productive struggle = seeing failure as opportunities of thinking smarter and better! They are hurdles that make us stronger.
Working from the traditional bronze, sliver, and gold. You are a gold medal winner any day, Dr. French! https://t.co/wVr2m96Y30
Giving out any medals tonight for best answers?
This is simply what we do. When you figure something out, you move on to the next challenge. IMPROVE baby! https://t.co/Qz5Z89926M
Q1: What does productive struggle in educational settings mean to you? Please explain your answer.
A1: Not bailing Ss out - finding answers on their own or in groups is so much better.
A1:struggle that moves you closer to a desired state,a goal, or other outcome that takes effort beyond the ordinary-stretches you.
A1: Productive struggle:
Using learn (wait) time; learning through trial/error; being comfortable w/ uncomfortable; no bailouts.
A1: The tough thinking part of learning
A1: productive struggle is enough to challenge and interest but not enough to defeat or disenfranchise
A1) it means stepping out of comfort zone and routine in order to better serve student learning.
A1: you allow stretch to take place. Kids are moved out of comfort zone but supported. "I won’t let you fall, I will let you fail"
A1:To me it is where we are pushing our Ss to heights that they thoughty were impossible to reach
Just given a great article and video on this through EDM4 math training. Love that growth mindset has even spread to curriculum
Jon, a 5th grade teacher in Tama, Iowa
A1 productive struggle - allowing students the opportunity to wrestle with an idea, not jumping in and giving answer right away
A1. Ss challenged to think on daily basis & expected to do majority of instructional 'lifting' as part of ongoing learning culture
A1: Nothing worth accomplishing/having is easy. Productive struggle requires some failure paired with learning and perseverance
A1: Trying to innovate in the classroom, developing lessons with rigor and relvance.
A1- Always seeking new ways to challenge students while providing support so they can find success
A1: Supporting the model of risk and failure is certainly productive struggle.
A1. Letting students struggle and learning that failure is a part of learning.
It's okay to let them skin their knee once in a while. https://t.co/f0ee9rKLmy
A1 productive struggle - allowing students the opportunity to wrestle with an idea, not jumping in and giving answer right away
A1: A worthwhile struggle that makes you better...usually one you take on yourself because the topic interests you
A1: Also, students leaving a classroom saying, "My brain hurts!" :)
A1. To me, a productive struggle is something I'm working thru w/ a group. Learning, wrestling w/ something, asking Qs, thinking
A1: Productive struggle...T's not swooping in and "saving" Ss that are at the "not yet" point. Allowing Ss to find their own way
A1: Being on the edge of uncomfortable, knowing that people are not going to bail me out. Responsible for my learning.
Hey ....multi-tasking with the Olympics on! Darin, 8th grade RLA from NE Iowa.
A1) Ss need to "grapple" w/ content; Ts need to be careful to facilitate without getting in the way: https://t.co/KsSYSOIsFV
Keep in mind what's best for kids - failing forward - I wiped out on Ragbrai, broke a thumb, got banged up, bought new bike!
A1 A culture of risk taking and innovative practices that aren't always pretty but with students best interests in mind
Welcome, my man! Good to see you.
Absolutely! For any learner regardless of age...teacher or student...we are all learning (or should be!) https://t.co/PUvcEman5G
A1: Being on the edge of uncomfortable, knowing that people are not going to bail me out. Responsible for my learning.
A1: Learning is a more satisfying experience when you have to work a little bit for it.
and one of the many reasons I love you so...
The "tough" part we all to often don't let kids experience! https://t.co/QRFdsbzNKq
A1: The tough thinking part of learning
Productive struggle means encouraging kids to spill milk, and not yelling at them when they spill it.
I am going to tell you now...this chat is going to rock. Q2 coming right up!
A1. Also, productive struggle - that feeling as a T where you're telling yourself, "Shhhhh......."
A1: Productive struggle: allowing failure to creep into your room in a safe, controlled environment, where it's ok to do so.
Q2: Do students struggle enough in various PK-12 learning opportunities? Explain your thoughts.
Productive struggle is the epitome of not "YET"
A2: No...we too often feel that if Ss are struggling, we did not do our job as teachers...
Exactly! Ss need to know that the struggle is the most beautiful part! https://t.co/vLWJN0HEhq
A1. Letting students struggle and learning that failure is a part of learning.
A2: Probably not - my Ss hate it when I answer a Q with a Q - they must not be used to it.
A1: Cognitive dissonance produces some stress for students ... but the resolution of that tension produces the best learning.
We have to get them used to it!
Teaching grit/stamina/perseverance - critical component of today's Social & Emotional Learning
Key point. Not used to it, but they can get there, right? Good stuff, Dave. https://t.co/qWN77BOMr9
A2: Probably not - my Ss hate it when I answer a Q with a Q - they must not be used to it.
A2 No, Many S dont have tools to cope with fail IN SCHOOL. fine in game but not school. Struggle is to fail, and succed
A2: I think some do and some don't. T's need to individualize instruction and know how to push each to their fullest potential.
A2: Struggle...yes. Productively struggle...no. Of course I am never satisfied when it comes to that :) https://t.co/ki8SEUafFo
Q2: Do students struggle enough in various PK-12 learning opportunities? Explain your thoughts.
A2 Not enough, sometimes content too easy. Sometimes we don't give time for Ss to really work through their thinking.
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A2: There is struggle, but is it always productive? Struggling to memorize, struggling to comply, struggling to sit, etc.
A2:Honeslty, I think it depends on which class a S has. Sometimes the T doesn't know how to push Ss, other times they just don't
A1. Productive struggle=S is okay not getting correct answer right away, knowing it's a step to get to the correct one eventually.
Q2: Ss need T's to zip it long enough to experience true learning rather than just being receivers of information
Helicopter teaching is a really thing, too! 😬
A2) Sometimes not. Sometimes I work with teachers I observe to not answer your own questions or do the work. Let the kids do it!
A2: Ss who actually need struggle aren’t challenge. But, Ss who have uphill battle don’t have skills to overcome the struggle.
Absolutely they can get there - many love the challenge.
A2: Yes, certain Ss will struggle if the material and instruction involves constant drilling and pounding of content.
A2: No...We need to teach Ss things arent always easy; success comes from perseverance and struggling. They must learn this on own
A2 - part 2 - sometimes we move through content so quickly we don't give time to really think through ideas.
Love this! Model perseverance!
A2: It's relative to the student, but to a degree, not in a way that builds perseverance. Looking for right answers=little growth
A2 fine line for each S as what's enough/too much. Must have pulse on the individual. https://t.co/QWBKvcnpMn
Q2: Do students struggle enough in various PK-12 learning opportunities? Explain your thoughts.
A2: A quality struggle is when kids must think, create, design, fail, and simply challenge their own limits.
The adage "No pain ... no gain!" should also apply to intellectual growth in the classroom.
A2 No, lawn mower adults are quick to pave the way for Ss to ensure EVERYBODY gets a ribbon
A2: We have a tendency to teach to the middle because I sometimes think subconsciously, we want to protect Ss from struggle.
A2: Probably not. As a parent I have to make an effort to allow situations w/ failure for my kids and then encourage to keep going
I hear you. I always ask the question - Who should be doing the work?
A2. No. We need to ensure our Ts are instilling power of some of our best learning can & often does come from failure
A2 that's dependent upon the differentiation of the learning opportunities. If you're making copies of worksheets, I'd guess no
Thank you! That has been a favorite line of mine for years. Keep rocking things in NE Iowa!
A2: struggle isn't the right verb, I prefer "make sense of their own learning" regardless of the hurdles.
Ragbrai - 75 miles straight up hill day 2 - Rigor - we have to push our kids to excellence! When Ss climb their mountains=SUCCESS!
Couldn't agree more. Certainly depends upon the kid.
A2: T's must remember most info they hold is also held on Google. Allow Ss to experience the process of leaning
A2. Our rubric-making tool https://t.co/D4RcWbFAS9 offers structure to their struggle...so Ss can parse WHERE they're struggling.
Another ? Why are they struggling? Are we covering too much or are we giving Ss the chance to solve a problem w the right tools...
A2) PK-12 focuses on procedural automaticity which is not productive struggle; need to focus on application-requires understanding
Looking for answers to big questions/ideas/concepts = growth though, right?
A2 Many struggle too much due to the fixation of matching the RIGOR of State tests. Ts feel the pressure too!
https://t.co/t2PS8MoVmt
THEY SAY BASEBALL IS WEAK BECUZ IT LACKS PHYSICAL CONTACT, TRY PLAYING A SPORT BASED ON FAILURE AND HAVE THE DISCIPLINE 2 NOT HIT SOMETHING
and I think as Ts we think we have "failed" if Ss don't understand immediately. We have to change mindset too
Mode failing forward! Can't be shown ENOUGH that this is how we do business! https://t.co/xdhq6O3s3v
A2: Probably not. As a parent I have to make an effort to allow situations w/ failure for my kids and then encourage to keep going
A2.2: It is not about delivering information. It is about teaching kids to think, problem solve, persevere, collaborate, etc.
that is so true. We need to get comfortable with students wrestling with ideas and concepts
A2. We've found our Ts empower Ss to struggle & fail to participate in their own learning. Sharing the rubrics in class.
A2: (more) Ss need multiple opportunities to learn material, making a strong connections to the content.
which is a big shift from the traditional!
A2 In Pre k-1st,Ss don't think of it as struggling. Ss keep at it. Interesting how is changes over time. https://t.co/AnNQyUVIyI
Q2: Do students struggle enough in various PK-12 learning opportunities? Explain your thoughts.
Fail forward! Awesome phrase. My new fav is WTF (Willing to Fail) lol. Learned it at this yr. https://t.co/KTTgt5Kglf
Mode failing forward! Can't be shown ENOUGH that this is how we do business! https://t.co/xdhq6O3s3v
A2: Probably not. As a parent I have to make an effort to allow situations w/ failure for my kids and then encourage to keep going
A2: Nope, they sure don't! Between helicopter parents, teachers, and others, they've learned to get away from that struggle!
Q3: Describe a lesson, unit, or lrng opp where students struggled, took charge of their learning, and were authentically engaged.
Struggling creates vulnerability. It underscores the need for teachers to create a safe and secure environment.
A3: Whenever students formulate and refine their own research questions
This is true. How do we go about fixing this, Darin? https://t.co/A4a8Lih5ec
A2: Nope, they sure don't! Between helicopter parents, teachers, and others, they've learned to get away from that struggle!
A3. Last year we did a Student Led Tech Conf that had some big struggles & mistakes so we gave a 2nd opportunity and it ROCKED!
A3 the change from traditional math class to blended learning self-paced class. Wild to see transformation https://t.co/uGCQJX38Rn
Q3: Describe a lesson, unit, or lrng opp where students struggled, took charge of their learning, and were authentically engaged.
Dont forget "learned helplessness"! Have S try and wait me out for an answer w/o trying. always work on T's that "need" to move on
A3: I always hold the bar high for students and challenge them to improve on a daily basis in all aspects of life.
https://t.co/yChBP4zArG
A3. Last year we did a Student Led Tech Conf that had some big struggles & mistakes so we gave a 2nd opportunity and it ROCKED!
A1:Current brain research -
1. The Brain Hungers for Meaning
2. Humans Learn best with moderate challenge
Finding Balance for Ss
Q3 https://t.co/xmm2N6oEL8
Q3: Describe a lesson, unit, or lrng opp where students struggled, took charge of their learning, and were authentically engaged.
A3: Constitutional am., Ss were allowed to illustrate the meaning of their am(s) and present them to the class
It starts with us, allowing students to struggle with tasks, but also communicating that need to struggle with Ps too.
A3: Created an Alternative School - Positive Peer Culture Model - Epic Hero Design - Everyone is created for a purpose!
A3:Ss work together in K-3 groups various times for “Bobcat Time” (MTSS) & adapt to different learning levels w/i groups
A3: writing units. Micdrop.
A3: We did Genius Hour and a Makerspace Enrichment during our intervention last year, kids loved it
A3. We introduced student led conferences K-5 last yr. Brand new concept. Struggles initially but complete success by second event
It's so important to communicate the need to home. Let your child struggle. https://t.co/NGGjClQYSV
It starts with us, allowing students to struggle with tasks, but also communicating that need to struggle with Ps too.
A3. We create , so that's kinda our thing. :) Best example is Zombie-Based Learning: surviving zombies using geography.
If you like the topic this evening, here is a post that I wrote related to it: "The Struggle is Real." https://t.co/lSpJgnOGUJ
If you like the topic this evening, here is a post that I wrote related to it: "The Struggle is Real." https://t.co/K9TrXujvx2
A3: I think anytime that I've experimented w/ the use of new tech is an example of this...
Productive struggle requires the end pt w S input-create agency by being in the process.
I would like to know what that looks like. We are in year 2 of something similar and looking to refine it.
A3: Lit circles in US History based on novels with student choice. Thoughtful Qs with no T to move the discussion along.
Great ideas & challenges everyone! I have missed being involved in !
Great ideas & challenges everyone! I have missed being involved in !
Good evening my friends. Love watching the tweets. Learning much. INSPIRED.
Please share the journey with us at !
A3: Some of the best examples I have seen are open response math problems. Many ways to get to the end. Process over product.
A3 I started a S Roundtable 2 yes ago w/ an open agenda focused on making KJH better. Transition tough, S shy!
I found it extremely difficult when I asked students to be Problem Seekers not just Solvers. Product of System.
Will try to remember! It's happening in Sept. Watch our feed for more! :)
A3: thing I most remember from high school was "The Physics Olympics." In teams we solved many problems: bridges, band, tops, etc.
Student led conferences.... They should be leading! All day, yes! https://t.co/0tHs983W1y
A3. We introduced student led conferences K-5 last yr. Brand new concept. Struggles initially but complete success by second event
A3 STEM challenges with open ended problems and limited creative constraints are some of favorite activities that induce struggle
We are just about ready for Q4!
A3: I found it helpful to tap into the man different passions that our Ss bring to school with them.
Q4: How can you determine the right amount of struggle for each student?
I want details, please. Really want to try this at my MS! https://t.co/VyuGBeerAm
Student led conferences.... They should be leading! All day, yes! https://t.co/0tHs983W1y
A3. We introduced student led conferences K-5 last yr. Brand new concept. Struggles initially but complete success by second event
A3: Econ application graph problems - group has to reach consensus - productive conflict
Right! You don't rely on someone else to teach you, you just go out and trial and error!
Love the opportunities for student choice and differentiation in writing workshop!
Our adult roles vary, but require that we support kids through structures/systems that foster growth & accountability incl failure
A4: No recipe for the perfect amount of struggle and each student can endure a different amount - the art of teaching must prevail
Make them the center of the conversation! They should be there to speak to the awesome things they've done!
A4: no struggle is too much w/ the right amount of coaching and support. Teach, learn, persevere, grow, get better!
These are great questions - A4 - it starts with the relationship you have with students. Knowing strengths and areas of growth.
A4) Let Ss take charge of grappling limits; choose activities; Expert Board (S help) & Help Board (T help) for when they get stuck
A4: head down, disruptive, sleeping, etc. are clues it's not right
A4: I think that is the hardest part for Ts is to identify the appropriate struggle...that's what separates great and average Ts.
A4: when Ss are shutting down and adult or peer support to continue
A4: Tears and swearing? ;) Truthfully, you figure it out as you go, from Day 1.
A4: It starts with knowing your kids. It's like coaching and finding what your athletes will respond to. Finding the sweet spot.
A4: First step is to recognize the struggle looks differently for each student. Know each S as learner. Go from there.
Yes, thank you. Of course, I'm only speaking to academic struggle. Not ACES or Title I.
A4 The right amount of struggle is just before the tears start flowing :) or when a S has had to attempt multiple solutions
A4- Teachers must have a quality relationship with the student. Each responds to struggle and challenges differently
A4: This question speaks to the importance of relationships and assessment. Know where your kids are at to make largest growth!
Lurking ? Come on in, the water's fine.
It's the "art" of teaching. https://t.co/I1YaktJayj
A4: It starts with knowing your kids. It's like coaching and finding what your athletes will respond to. Finding the sweet spot.
A4:This is why the relationships are key, then you will know, and your Ss will feel like they can open up to you about difficulty
A4 T'S that work on relationship first "feels" the right amount. and it changes from day to day!
A-4: the struggle must not lead to contempt or isolation with learning!
Josh wins Twitter tonight! A gold medal response! cc: https://t.co/DimbSmSZnt
A4- Teachers must have a quality relationship with the student. Each responds to struggle and challenges differently
A4: Evaluating Ss holistically including conversations with Ss and their family and previous assessments scores.
A4: No formula for this. Are we talking to our Ss in the learning process? If we are, then we know when they need us.Communicate.
A4. Solid relationships serve as the vital foundation to achieve this. The Ts must know the Ss they serve beyond surface level.
. distracted by the Olympics but the topic is definitely intriguing!
A4 Like anything else, differentiation is the Key. Know your Ss!
A4.2: Ask yourself this question when thinking about Q4: would you want to be a S in your classroom?
A4) In S-driven classrooms, Ss engage in prod struggle and know how to get help when they need it; 5th gr: https://t.co/dAsdrRcB0K
Ts hate it when I ask them that question....or maybe they are just tired of me asking, lol? https://t.co/81vrI2VL9I
A4.2: Ask yourself this question when thinking about Q4: would you want to be a S in your classroom?
Q5 is on deck! You are all bringing it tonight!
A4 Monitoring & listening to the Ss. https://t.co/REN3FpA1Cv
Q4: How can you determine the right amount of struggle for each student?
BOOM, Mic Drop! https://t.co/o2hel1KB1C
A4.2: Ask yourself this question when thinking about Q4: would you want to be a S in your classroom?
A4 Pause and push away (literally & figuratively) but they keep coming back. That's key-they still want to figure out
Isn't it OUR time Mr. Hand??
Q5: What are advantages of allowing students or teachers to struggle?
A5 Higher degrees of satisfaction and retention in accomplishment.
May happen at 1st but after Ss know the struggle is where the magic happens, more willing to struggle. https://t.co/0l2VNd7mbt
A4 The right amount of struggle is just before the tears start flowing :) or when a S has had to attempt multiple solutions
A5: Retention has to be better when we achieve something rather than having it handed to us (no citation)
A5: With opportunities to fail, we have future opportunities for success!
A5: B/c struggle is the optimal way that ppl learn and grown. Failure and perseverance is a lethal combination.
A5: no struggle, no growth. It's that simple.
We have a star teacher in Northeastern IA, who's been KILLING it w/ZBL, expanded to other subj beyond geo.
A4-- Ts-think about the rhythmic patterns to Ss day--has their entire day been spent in "productive struggle"? Collaboration🗝
A5 Development of work ethic that isn't satisfied with the status quo or easy way out is a valuable lesson learned from struggle
A5: The advantages are when they struggle and then succeed...builds work ethic and grit. Leads to life long learning and tenacity.
A5:When I was a S and a T, I felt like I learned more from that situation when I struggled
A5 I think the biggest advantage is being able to refer back to this time in future as drive
This made me LOL at first, but so true.
A5:The right amount forces you from your comfort zone. Doesn't call it Shifting the Monkey? https://t.co/mkhIRHW3SN
Q5: What are advantages of allowing students or teachers to struggle?
A5 Allow one to struggle once and overcome, the next time they will be more of a leader when faced with a similar problem
A5 Ss build on success so when they face adversity in the future they will be able to persevere.
A5: The learning and struggles that takes places along the way will teach more lessons in life than the easy route!
Amen. https://t.co/FyLf0M5ilI
A4.2: Ask yourself this question when thinking about Q4: would you want to be a S in your classroom?
A5 PLUS, flexibility in thinking and approach to process. Struggle makes you dissect the issue. Deeper understanding.
A4: The right amount of struggle comes from knowing students and asking questions to help them find their own solution.
Man, that is a good statement! https://t.co/MgMzYZaQaM
A5 I think the biggest advantage is being able to refer back to this time in future as drive
A5 Life is a struggle! If struggle is never experienced,you are sleep-walking.Wake up! Struggle=determination!
A5: Life skills developed. Working through things with the right amount of feedback and autonomy will lead to life greatness.
Sorry - duty calls - have to double check my music schedule for the week and get back to some Ts. Great chatting w/ ya!
I'm planning a lesson/talk in this w/my new Ss as yesterday I experienced it by putting 2gether table w/o directions included!
Beautifully written, sir! https://t.co/mokHHgwffA
A5: With opportunities to fail, we have future opportunities for success!
A5: When do we grow the most as learners, when we struggle or when it’s easy? Productive = supported & relevant.
Awesome that you were here with us! Good luck and be great. https://t.co/ZFKdPWyzRi
Sorry - duty calls - have to double check my music schedule for the week and get back to some Ts. Great chatting w/ ya!
A5. Developing and perseverance.
A5: Learning how to truly live. I've never had pride in anything that came easy. We want more prideful Ss and adults!
Figure out ways to document and keep track of d outcome of d formative assessment. That data helps! https://t.co/fOuAEvadXJ
Q4: How can you determine the right amount of struggle for each student?
A5. As Instructional Coach, I give Ts ideas/content guidance & encourage risk daily. Ts know they have my support & trickles to Ss
Truth! Have we really achieved when we haven't worked hard to get it?
A:5: Struggles can teach S/T it is not that one is bad at something, just that we have to try a different method to find success.
A5.2: Candidate A walks in and has tremendous knowledge. Candidate B has perseverance and grit. Who do you take?
It is almost time for Q6! We are really on point tonight!
A5 A student perspective. Personalized Learning Didn't Prepare Me for College - The Millenial Perspective https://t.co/xrwmbR7cW1
Exactly! https://t.co/Rr3MYLtPoz
A5.2: Candidate A walks in and has tremendous knowledge. Candidate B has perseverance and grit. Who do you take?
Exactly! This is the method to modeling resiliency and making it a part of learning. https://t.co/oarFoF4P7F
A:5: Struggles can teach S/T it is not that one is bad at something, just that we have to try a different method to find success.
Q6: Are there certain strategies that support productive struggling? Ones which inhibit the struggle?
love the imagery and connection. very true - no struggle no growth.
Candidate B had me at hello. I feel asleep listening to Candidate A.
A5: struggle builds appreciation for working hard. allows Ts and Ss to know they can try/fail w/support https://t.co/F6RCohHSji
A5.2 T b. One can learn curriculum, perseverance and grit- not so much!
A6: I think having to struggle urself assists those that are great at identifying the right balance. Theory is not always reality.
A tale of two Butlers...potential blog on this...
A6: Partner talk encourages accountability in thinking, accountable talk teaches how to respectfully engage with peers.
A6: I think that giving one-on-one, specific, positive feedback related to their struggle helps.
A6: question prompts are vital. Who/when/where stymie growth. Create/debate/analyze promote growth.
A6: Collaboration and communication with colleagues in our building but also those who are in our
A6: Simple enough, but when a task is presented and T or leader simply steps out of the way allowing Ss or Ts to work through it.
A6: again- strong, trusting relationships, communication with your Ss, and Ts knowing they are a facilitator not knowledge source
Yes! Specific feedback to encourage them that they CAN.
21st century schools must focus on finding a kid’s PASSION, connect them with a PROFESSION, and give them the GRIT to get there.
A6: Talking about it. Teaching and learning about the benefits of struggle (and )
From this feedback, Ss should know exactly what they have success with and what challenges them. https://t.co/Fowp3O1qqN
A6: I think that giving one-on-one, specific, positive feedback related to their struggle helps.
A6. When staff ask Qs like "I wonder if we could..." when it comes to stu achievement. Those are struggles to support.
A6 Choice supports productive struggle, lack thereof inhibits. Give Ss voice/choice!
Have a fabulous week friends, off to finish painting.
A-6: Sharing the struggle with others and developing and fostering teamwork and resolve!
Andrea Nashville, TN I am a university librarian. This is my first time on Twitter. I am participating in this for a class. Thanks
A5) Struggle must come from "felt need"- S buy-in to the prob (authentic, open-ended); tough T assignments w/o "felt need" inhibit
Their ability to fight through the struggle starts with the relationship! https://t.co/JxzOSlnv36
A6: again- strong, trusting relationships, communication with your Ss, and Ts knowing they are a facilitator not knowledge source
Nailed it! I think I need to follow this guy :) https://t.co/PtYz1dKcYm
A6. When staff ask Qs like "I wonder if we could..." when it comes to stu achievement. Those are struggles to support.
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Andrea Nashville, TN I am a university librarian. This is my first time on Twitter. I am participating in this for a class. Thanks
A6: I have always liked pairs work. Not to enable but to support.When you think about your own work,how often do you do so alone?
A6) Struggle must come from "felt need"- S buy-in to the prob (authentic, open-ended); tough T assignments w/o "felt need" inhibit
Amen!!! And if they say "our kids can't do that," that must be squelched immediately. https://t.co/fe3uR3yq6m
A6. When staff ask Qs like "I wonder if we could..." when it comes to stu achievement. Those are struggles to support.
We are just about ready for our final question of the night! Truly appreciate your contributions.
So true! They won't feel supported to fail forward without a relationship! https://t.co/FPht84ubhh
Their ability to fight through the struggle starts with the relationship! https://t.co/JxzOSlnv36
A6: again- strong, trusting relationships, communication with your Ss, and Ts knowing they are a facilitator not knowledge source
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Q7: What will you do to build confidence to support students’ struggles this coming year?
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Hi Julia, Math teacher in Ca. Following along for my first chat also- fantastic!. !
A7 LOTS of individual feedback sessions! 1:1 teacher time will overcome!
A7: Transparency - students will know that they will be challenged, that they'll struggle, and that we will grow as a result.
A7: I will continue to model the way and encourage risk taking and embracing failure...celebrating ever success along the way.
My daughter, 8th grade, does not mind "struggling" when the teacher is good and the content is worth learning.
A7 Providing as much info as possible to Ts in advance to help predetermine needs of S before Day 1!
A7: Point out positives and successes offer words of encouragement, and tap into S passions
A7: (Thanks for this challenge, btw!) I say more conferring and more helping show Ss what peer discussions look and sound like
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Hi Julia, Math teacher in Ca. Following along for my first chat also- fantastic!. !
A7: Continue to model this myself as well as put our T's in these productive struggle situations. Practice what we preach.
A7: Model learning along the way and embracing the journey, not just the goal.
A7: First and foremost, A classroom climate where it is okay to struggle and take risks in learning.
A7 support teachers to create classroom environments where students can take risks and Ts focus on learners and what they need
A7 Model what we preach. We all make mistakes but must learn from them and keep moving forward. No different than students
Great chat Dan! Thanks for hosting!
A-7: By encouraging learning environments that support struggles as natural steps to improvement and success!
A7: Talk to them. Tell them that I believe in them. Follow-up with them. Celebrate with them!
great wording "embracing the journey"
What are we doing to make this struggle "worth it"? https://t.co/MAZ4d8fOs3
My daughter, 8th grade, does not mind "struggling" when the teacher is good and the content is worth learning.
A7: Feel an obligation to model the practice myself while being transparent with Ts, Ps, and Ss. Continue to push my comfort zone.
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Thanks for sharing tonight on ! Love learning with you all and hearing your thoughts on the struggle in education!
Great to have you here with us, Joe. It has been a lot of fun! https://t.co/eB69gONq1l
Great chat Dan! Thanks for hosting!
A7: 1:1 conversations,resource support, just in time support, positive feedback and frequent check ins.
Just talking with Ss more sounds like a great plan! I know you will hold true to this! https://t.co/k1D0ko6JYr
A7: (Thanks for this challenge, btw!) I say more conferring and more helping show Ss what peer discussions look and sound like
Thanks for hosting this great tonight
Enjoyed the this evening, starting off on a good foot this week and eager to be productive!
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