#edchatME Archive
A Maine-based Twitter presence for a network of educators everywhere.
Monday May 9, 2016
8:30 PM EDT
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@andrewtwallace
Ready!
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#EdChatME
! Tonight we continue our exploration of Maine's Guiding Principles
https://t.co/E3eO5HsM1D
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Tonight's focus is Guiding Priniciple: "Self-Directed Lifelong Learner" (hereafter "SDLL").
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Let's start with the usual: who are you, what do you do, and for fun:
#TeamIronMan
,
#TeamCaptainAmerica
, or
#NoneOfTheAbove
?
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Sean, Tech Integrator, Dover-Foxcroft. Excited to chat about SDLL.
#EdChatME
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Jennifer Michaelis, H.S. Math in Cumberland, Maine. I don't know my comics well enough to pick a side.
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Becca from Wells & USM here… Team Ironman all the way! I love Tony Stark… he may seem fixed, but he really has a
#growthmindset
#edchatme
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Alice Barr, Tech Integrator Yarmouth HS hmmm thinging
#noneoftheabove
#EdChatME
DrMerriRajaniem
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hello! Merri, AP, looking forward to discussing self-directed lifelong learner
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Bob MS Prin in Gorham, Maine
#EdChatME
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi everyone, Andy here, Tech director in Southern Maine. Not to be contrary, but I am on
#teamDCcomics
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
K-5 Tech Integrator in Midcoast ME, about to be
#teamfallasleepinmychair
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi
@alicebarr
@MichaelisMath
@DrMerriRajaniem
@briley8557
@Sean_Malone
Glad you could join
#EdChatME
as we continue exploring the Maine GP!
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Good Evening, Kelley, Principal and
#TeamCaptainAmerica
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I've got my seatbelt and ready for the ride!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/yoTAovIplR
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi
@alicebarr
@MichaelisMath
@DrMerriRajaniem
@briley8557
@Sean_Malone
Glad you could join
#EdChatME
as we continue exploring the Maine GP!
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@andrewtwallace
Obviously you have to be an outlier
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Natalee, HS Humanities & Head of HS at Windham Christian. Looking forward to the conversation tonight!
#EdChatME
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Oh, for
#EdChatME
folks not from our great state, here's a link to the Principles we're referencing in this series:
https://t.co/xoADQrykJ3
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@kelley_weiss
welcome to
#edchatme
!
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A1: It's all about problem solving. "What do you do when you don't know what to do?" is the MOST IMPORTANT thing we can teach!
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Miss Q1? Here it is!
#edchatme
https://t.co/CciAIpjkCl
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q1: Why is it essential that students leave school as self-directed lifelong learners?
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
Hi Natalee! Is
@angelasearles94
around tonight for
#EdChatME
?
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A1: Learning isn’t finished at graduation- it's NEVER finished! Ss need skills to continue asking Qs & learning independently!
#edChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Matt-Curriculum Coord fr/
@AOS94ME
&
@MooseCampME
. I choose
#noneoftheabove
#edchatme
https://t.co/pLGIuw5UJR
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@angelasearles94
I hope so! Don't know for sure, though.
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
The only good DC is MDC, and that DC is a GREAT DC.
#EdChatME
https://t.co/7h9VS0NYKF
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi everyone, Andy here, Tech director in Southern Maine. Not to be contrary, but I am on
#teamDCcomics
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1: Progression of socity comes from Ss learning the most from their own inquiry, interest, and advancement in life.
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Jeff, HS Technology Teacher Rumford ME.
#teamnospoilers
#seeingitthisweekend
#imax
#edchatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: Without Ss themselves, who will continue the teaching and learning in life.
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1
#EdChatME
All humans are wired to learn, it's biological! Making sure that we help our Ss become "good" learners is critical.
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: You can become a learner later in life, but it's so much more rewarding to become one earlier!
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A2 No school can reasonably prepare Ss for everything they need to know in life. Ss need ability to hit the ground running
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1) "...Teach a person to fish and s/he will eat for a lifetime." This ancient quote is ALL ABOUT SDLL & autonomous learning!
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@jbailey8
Hi Jeff! I miss you!
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
So true! The role of school & nature of learning has changed so much with technology!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/DNDITy1852
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A2 No school can reasonably prepare Ss for everything they need to know in life. Ss need ability to hit the ground running
#edchatme
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Hi
#edchatme
!! Erin, 9th grade English, Team CAP, obvs.
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1
#edchatme
watching learners of varying ages tells us much about learning,it becomes more dif ,not imp, the older you get!
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1: Students learn how to learn - great future skill
#edchatme
DrMerriRajaniem
May 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1. Jobs, careers, & required skills are constantly changing. We must be lifelong learners to change, adapt, be successful
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Q1: The #1 goal of schools to prepare for uncertain and changing future is to have SDLL. If not, we have simply not prepared Ss
#edchatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Miss you too Becca! We'll have to hang out soon.
#edchatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1) We can't be there as a safety net forever. We must TEACH and MODEL independence and autonomy in all things.
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Or…" If you give a mouse a cookie… s/he/they will want a glass of milk…" and more discovery follows!
#edchatme
https://t.co/BLThZ0xOIg
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1) "...Teach a person to fish and s/he will eat for a lifetime." This ancient quote is ALL ABOUT SDLL & autonomous learning!
#edchatme
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Anyone here know what jobs our Ss will have in 5yrs, 10 yrs???
#EdChatME
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
In order to advance in any career and in society after school Ss will be responsible for their own professional growth.
#edchatme
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: Learning should never be allowed to stagnate. As the world changes, so must its citizens. Ss need to be able to adapt.
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
And therein lies the challenge of education- preparing our students for jobs that don't exist yet!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/gOvlqY7JPf
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Anyone here know what jobs our Ss will have in 5yrs, 10 yrs???
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Those books celebrate codependency & bad eating habits, not independent/autonomous and healthy living.
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
No idea! So the best we can do is teach a foundation that is content plus inquisitiveness growthmindset
#edchatme
https://t.co/cWbpLMaQUu
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Anyone here know what jobs our Ss will have in 5yrs, 10 yrs???
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@DrewetteCard
@MsRedmanEnglish
Are we about to get political again?
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
But if we teach our Ss to be adaptable, to learn under different circumstances, to persevere, then we have ginned our Ss a leg up.
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@briley8557
maybe our governor knows? He has lots of inside info...
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2: What does being a self-directed lifelong learner "look like"? What observable student behaviors exemplify this quality?
#EdChatME
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1: Students learn so much by failing, try again, repeat. The SDLL will keep building those skills as they keep learning
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
That's asking a lot, although I bet he could make something up!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/bzJnzmqr0m
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@briley8557
maybe our governor knows? He has lots of inside info...
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
@MsRedmanEnglish
#MakeGettingCookiesAndPancakesGreatAgain
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
Thank you!
#edchatME
is all about Maine's Guiding Principles this week, & specifically about creating lifelong learners. :)
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Ask questions…about everything. Try new things & embrace challenges. Seek resources & share discoveries.
#cantstopwontstop
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
In case you missed Q2
#EdChatME
https://t.co/qkK9Vz64OG
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A1: SDLL leads to innovation, acceptable risks and failures, and progress.
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Being curious, posing questions, reflecting on learning. Refining the process to "seek answers" and making better questions.
#edchatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@briley8557
He does like to improv! Must be hangin out w/
@jbailey8
&
@WickedDecent
#edchatme
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Being willing to take a risk and try learning something new and different
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2 Life long learners show curiosity -- show up w vids they have watched & share stories of how they used the info
#edchatme
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2: Developing inquiry-based learning, exploring & implementing the habits of the mind.
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2) It looks like inquiry and discovery and frustration and success and repeat.
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
@DrewetteCard
it’s all about not being satisfied with the status quo and taking the
#nextsteps
beyond the glass of milk
#edchatme
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2: They take the initiative to FIND OUT the answers to their questions! They research on their own. They Google EVERYTHING.
#edchatme
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
It isn't just the challenge of edu; it is also the challenge of the community to trust & invest in such
#edchatme
https://t.co/eoNLy9MeI1
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
And therein lies the challenge of education- preparing our students for jobs that don't exist yet!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/gOvlqY7JPf
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Anyone here know what jobs our Ss will have in 5yrs, 10 yrs???
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2
#EdChatME
Knowing the next Q to ask, no fear of failure, embracing the heart of an entrepreneur, and having the heart to share!
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A1: To understand perseverance, to improve personal performance, and use resources to solve problems
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@DrewetteCard
@MsRedmanEnglish
How about get a job and stop depending on the gubmint, mouse?
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2: It looks like the kid consulting Youtube,
@khanacademy
or a classmate instead of just the teacher when presented w a challenge
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2: A willingness to view failure as opportunity for growth, not as an end.
#EdChatME
DougHodum
May 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A1. I want my students to leave curious. They start that way, and I want them to keep asking questions.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@GeoffCyr
Or being greedy and always looking for the next best thing without actually appreciating what you have
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@angelasearles94
@MsRedmanEnglish
Yay! Glad you're here!
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
@DrewetteCard
@MsRedmanEnglish
Poor, misunderstood mouse.
#EdChatME
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 Asking questions and using new information to create connections with previous concepts or btw content areas
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2: The willingness to embrace and conquer the challenge, rather then follow.
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
a2: willing to accept outside constructive criticism. Works as a group member and a leader
#edchatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2 Life long learners share long term goals; they say things like "I wanna design marketing someday, so can I make the logo for
#edchatme
DrMerriRajaniem
May 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2. Curiosity and the desire to learn are indicators of SDLL
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@briley8557
would love to draw more ties between SDLL and the entrepreneurial spirit- especially for my business students!
#edchatme
DougHodum
May 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2. Asking questions. Taking on subjects about which they are curious. Going beyond what was asked.
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: This.
https://t.co/Gu9skM22mI
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2) Lifelong learners figure out how to make random pop culture references fit into oddly appropriate situations.
#synthesis
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2: Also a curiosity for things that they might not have originally thought they'd be interested in. An openness to new ideas.
#EdChatME
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2 Not waiting for the Qs to be asked, taking initiative and discovering what's possible b4 it's even been done
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Absolutely - I hope all students apply content to goals beyond HS - see real, authentic applicability!
#edchatme
https://t.co/oAZN7jjjau
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2 Life long learners share long term goals; they say things like "I wanna design marketing someday, so can I make the logo for
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q3: How do (or might) you assess & track development of "SDLL" in your classroom or building? Any resources you can share?
#EdChatME
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2: Develop a plan, stay motivated despite successes and obstacles, prioritize, manage time, ask for help
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
This is engagement!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/SQr9lro9Xf
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2 Not waiting for the Qs to be asked, taking initiative and discovering what's possible b4 it's even been done
#EdChatME
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A2: Need to be able to ask really good questions
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
At MS, our Ss are still quite idealistic, our challenge is to help them keep those ideals and belief in the impossible alive
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
a3: Focus on growth over "grades" here. A grade implies an end to the learning. Growth is continous
#edchatME
SparkyTeaching
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Keep driving that bus. Your chickens need you.
#cdnedchat
#edtechchat
#vachat
#learnLAP
#edchatME
#4thchat
https://t.co/dGGWK35XsM
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3: I feel like portfolios are my answer to everything lately. But portfolios. Can use them to show change over time.
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@AmyHediger
you are referencing the thinking behind
#geniushour
! have you ever tried it in your classroom?
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A2: The hardest thing is getting started. Ss who tackle at least the beginning of a problem, and can point to "I"m stuck HERE."
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: This is where I wish everyone made time for
#GeniusHour
- the ultimate SDLL model!
@MisterCMaine
has great resources!
#edchatme
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: Collection of electronic portfolio, eventually splitting up into the "Greatest Hits" & "B-Sides"
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@alicebarr
YES! How do students learn how to ask great Qs? Any brilliant tricks to share, Alice?
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
a3: to what extent is the student learning "independently"? How is s/he finding and evaluating resources? Posing questions?
#edchatME
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3: student curated portfolios can demonstrate independent pursuit/passions and "self direct & lifelong learning."
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3: I'm beginning to implement Personal Learning Plans. Get Ss involved in expressing their ID as learners & charting their path.
#Edchatme
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3: Destroying the grades, focusing on proficiency, mastering, and SD growth.
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3
#Whatif
Ss could access a curiosity tracker; Google form/spreadsheet where they share their exploring
#edchatme
https://t.co/DtHePTGT6d
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q3: How do (or might) you assess & track development of "SDLL" in your classroom or building? Any resources you can share?
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Q3 dropped! Here it is!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/dfeQ66ZbmT
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@Sean_Malone
I forget- where are you teaching and where are you at with assessing GPs?
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3) With a well written scale that is focused on 3 pillars of proficiency: CONTENT, COMPLEXITY, & AUTONOMY
#edchatme
https://t.co/Tv7In3YBxw
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@DrewetteCard
Does such a scale exist, Yoda?
#edchatme
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Up in Dover-Foxcroft. We assess each GP every quarter as part of the report card.
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Had a discussion w/T today about making part of the assessment process a S reflection to go along w/T report
#EdChatME
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Last year we read Just one Change - really goos protocols and process of Students creating essential questions
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Or a
@Wonderopolis
- style blog where Ss share the answers to their burning questions?
#edchatme
https://t.co/qlzWm5Aj6e
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3
#Whatif
Ss could access a curiosity tracker; Google form/spreadsheet where they share their exploring
#edchatme
https://t.co/DtHePTGT6d
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q3: How do (or might) you assess & track development of "SDLL" in your classroom or building? Any resources you can share?
#EdChatME
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3 S led conferences during workshop. Have them present their learning and next steps
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@alicebarr
I will look into this!
#edChatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3
#WhatIf
we made a point to document our classrooms via video/audio/image w intention? Our Ss' curiosity journeys?
#edchatme
DougHodum
May 9 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3. I think that is a tough one. I look for those students who just work beyond what is asked.
#EdChatME
I think a rubric would be tough
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@briley8557
student reflection is key to growth! Even better? Add respectful peer-to-peer feedback channels as well!
#edchatme
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@andrewtwallace
The trick is figuring out engaging way to share that info; charts & spreadsheets look el lame-o
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
Here's the basic scale template we use
@AOS94ME
#edchatme
https://t.co/9xucCGtBj4
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
So important for Ss to be part of the process. Should be celebrating their learning all the time!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/QBvYwmHfaP
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3 S led conferences during workshop. Have them present their learning and next steps
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@Sean_Malone
ahhhh, are you with
@jonpratt
?
#edchatme
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
also Right Question Institute
#edchatme
right
https://t.co/tVvYt8tmhy
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A3: I think Ss need opp. to control content + initiate learning on own terms. Otherwise, we're back to assessing compliance again
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Sounds like a cool oppty to model using
@Seesaw
#edchatme
https://t.co/K9weiUZwS7
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3
#WhatIf
we made a point to document our classrooms via video/audio/image w intention? Our Ss' curiosity journeys?
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Yes! Ss see learning as something they participate in, not something that happens to them!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/IV1iJ1SqRa
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@briley8557
student reflection is key to growth! Even better? Add respectful peer-to-peer feedback channels as well!
#edchatme
alicebarr
May 9 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A3: Love the new Table of Contents in Google Docs for students doing multiple reflections and keeping track of each reflection
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Reflection is important for Ss AND for Ts. Are we reflective in our practice?
#EdChatME
https://t.co/IV1iJ1SqRa
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@briley8557
student reflection is key to growth! Even better? Add respectful peer-to-peer feedback channels as well!
#edchatme
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A3 perhaps teacher/student compare assessments. Discuss differences, how/where improvements are needed & set a course
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Q4: How might "SDLL" be integrated across content areas? How might we best measure student growth towards graduation goal?
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:01 PM EDT
.
@DougHodum
#Whatif
Ts used single score rubrics ala
@cultofpedagogy
https://t.co/mDU6TM4EuI
so we only have to articulate meets?
#edchatme
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A3: Giving time, w/ specific probing questions, for students to talk to each other or use on-line formats for entire group
#EdChatME
T_HEB
May 9 @ 9:01 PM EDT
When Ss choose tech we suggest a mix of google classroom & exp everything to doc ind lrng. Table of contents helps
@alicebarr
#edchatme
jbailey8
May 9 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A4: encourage use of independent projects like 20% time or passion projects
#edchatME
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Q4 may have snuck by you, here it is again!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/lNM6UdrOfc
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A3: We don't track or assess this, but we work constantly to GROW this and model the "what if..." "how might we ..." approach.
#edchatme
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:02 PM EDT
.
@andrewtwallace
that's a fantastic idea;thinking of my having my Ss make
@thinglink
of their TKAM invention designs
#edchatme
#showthethink
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A4: Teach, give, collaborate, and build the students, set them free, & allow them to demonstrate their knowledge
#EdChatME
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 9:03 PM EDT
This is an amazing way for Ss to give input and engage them in reflective conversation
#EdChatME
https://t.co/AOOePejw4a
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A3 perhaps teacher/student compare assessments. Discuss differences, how/where improvements are needed & set a course
#EdChatME
T_HEB
May 9 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A4 Would tossing out the schedule/bells be too over the top? Ss meet w Ts & peers to discuss how curric content connects to proj.
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@T_HEB
Hi Tim! Outline feature definitely helps organize “running” docs in my classes, too, like reflective journals!
@alicebarr
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I haven't been in chats much lately, so I'm a bit out of practice and slow...and a laggy TweetDeck isn't helping matters. Grr!
#Edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
we see you! You’re here! Keep it up!
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Thanks for the encouragement!
#edchatme
jbailey8
May 9 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@alicebarr
may have meant
https://t.co/dsaPogQamt
instead of "
https://t.co/R2nWrNkdwo
"
#edchatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4 In all guiding principles,
#whatif
Ts had time to sit & discuss Ss demonstration; documenting evidence & anecdotes
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@T_HEB
We don't run bells at our school, but still have schedule. The day feels so packed & rushed. Wish we could have more time!
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I hope someday we all have time, Ss & Ts, to pursue
#GeniusHour
/ 20% time projects, share building-wide
#edchatme
https://t.co/qLaeJIikeJ
jbailey8
May 9 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A4: encourage use of independent projects like 20% time or passion projects
#edchatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Especially when you have THAT class that is going so well... and then, change!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/6ITVAh2oBM
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@T_HEB
We don't run bells at our school, but still have schedule. The day feels so packed & rushed. Wish we could have more time!
#edchatme
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:06 PM EDT
HS able to bestow scholarships & dept awards via committee & discussion; can we not also determine guiding principles achievemet?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@angelasearles94
Oooh! I'm doing this for argumentation! Gave Ss the assignment bef. the rubric since they already knew it "all."
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: It takes time & not everyone is going to be ready to move on at the same pace. How do we balance personal needs w/group needs?
#edchatme
T_HEB
May 9 @ 9:06 PM EDT
The clock is always watching. If we want to develop SDLL we need an env where Ss can noodle over problems & not rush
#edchatme
@nataleestotz
alicebarr
May 9 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@jbailey8
https://t.co/nSRTJMnBL3
was what I was thinking of Sorry about that!
#EdChatME
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
I'm trying to navigate on my daughter's laptop :/ If anyone knows of grants for MacBooks for Ts, that'd be great :)
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
Personalized-Customized Learning & empathy to meet the Ss where they are at & where they are going
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:07 PM EDT
And more and more we see Ss with Exec. Function delay who have trouble transitioning.
#EdChatME
T_HEB
May 9 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Perhaps staggering times for teams of Ts who are available for cross curric conversation & support
#edchatme
@andrewtwallace
@nataleestotz
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
Yes: use of self-assessment in
#EDU300USM
!
@angelasearles94
- valuable dialogue emerges via rubric discrepancies!
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@T_HEB
@andrewtwallace
Love this idea! Will have to play with it.
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4: Looking at doing some teaming next year. Going for PBE consistency across the disciplines.
#sharingiscaring
#EdChatME
DougHodum
May 9 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A4. In some ways, to me at least, the SDLL might be easier to measure holistically, collaboratively, rather than by each T.
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@Sean_Malone
This is what I'm working on now.
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Interesting example of problem solving & meeting the needs of users
https://t.co/MNKwcognRx
#edchatme
#dtk12chat
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
tell me more about distance between rubric & assignment. “All" could be “3”… nailing it, the 4
#edchatme
@angelasearles94
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q5: What challenges might you face in measuring and integrating SDLL? How might those challenges be overcome?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Beginning assignment for unit, Ss claim to be able to argue successfully w/o new instruction. Gave 'em a chance.
#edchatme
T_HEB
May 9 @ 9:11 PM EDT
With our 4ths and 5ths we set aside 4 weeks or about 13 hours.
#edchatme
@andrewtwallace
@nataleestotz
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A4 2/2: That said, we can integrate easily by asking Ss, "How might we ..." "where can this lead us..." & following those paths!
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A4: 1/2 I'm stumped. I don't think everything we teach/model/learn can -- or should -- be assessed.
#Noteverythingcanbequantified
#edchatme
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:12 PM EDT
.
@DougHodum
@cultofpedagogy
what happens when folks disagree abt what is observable & measurable?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Ha.
#somuchnope
Posted rubric in GClassroom. Went over in depth. Kids facepalming everywhere.
#itwasbeautiful
#edchatme
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A4: Integrated by using same language and expectations w/ Ss coupled w/ opportunities to pursue passions in all subjects.
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A5: The demands of "Inside the Box, Cookie-Cutter" education. Channeling my inner Jon Snow to push Ss towards greatness.
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Have to get out of
#edchatme
and do copious amounts of other work before the sleepy times; nice connecting w folks tonight
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A4 Disciplinary literacy is an amazing way to increase Ss connections and measure transfer btw content areas and SDLL
#EdChatME
DougHodum
May 9 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Same here.....tough to leave, but S work is calling! Thank you everyone.
#edchatme
https://t.co/MBIVKXgVTo
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Have to get out of
#edchatme
and do copious amounts of other work before the sleepy times; nice connecting w folks tonight
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q5
#EdChatME
https://t.co/7ILQ857Eww
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Ended w/excellent disc. about audience, bc Morrell may know what a First Person Shooter is, but other Ts may not.
#edchatme
alicebarr
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A5: Often the “final project” is the assessment but I wonder if the steps along the way can be checked instead.
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Have an early morning meeting tomorrow. I've got to jet. Let me know when you've solved the world's problems
#teamEdChatME
#edchatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
What's the saying, "not everything that is counted, counts & not everything that counts is counted"
#EdChatME
https://t.co/CsYGV8rxSz
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A4: 1/2 I'm stumped. I don't think everything we teach/model/learn can -- or should -- be assessed.
#Noteverythingcanbequantified
#edchatme
DougHodum
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
.
@WickedDecent
@cultofpedagogy
Then we talk through it. Maybe you model it, have tough conversations. That is how we grow.
#EdChatME
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A4 Showing Ss how subjects intermingle in life. Math is not separate from Science. History is can't be sep from English, etc
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A5: Ss can no longer be passive. Hard shift for some.
#EdChatME
DougHodum
May 9 @ 9:16 PM EDT
.
@kelley_weiss
I agree completely. The exceeds boxes could almost be left blank, as long as it goes above and beyond the meets.
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:16 PM EDT
YES, YES, YES!!!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/fv5PggDRId
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A4 Showing Ss how subjects intermingle in life. Math is not separate from Science. History is can't be sep from English, etc
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
For me, 3 is the essential. Ss dance into 4s here and there, trail back into 2s w/some 3 traits still present.
#edchatme
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A5: When school-wide rubric says "consistently" - what does this really mean from class to class?
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
We met this hurdle last week re: GP! These are skills that, presumably, will be assessed as grad stds. HMW do that?
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
@MsRedmanEnglish
Do you find that Ss want to know what the 4 requires? The "how do I get an A" mindset?
#EdChatME
briley8557
May 9 @ 9:19 PM EDT
That is a great question!
#edchatme
https://t.co/JBuG4y9Btp
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A5: When school-wide rubric says "consistently" - what does this really mean from class to class?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A5: How easy it is for Ss to throw the "lifelong" part back at me, because I may not know them in 10 or even just 5 years.
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A5 A challenge of course is don't see the "lifelong"part. But we can keep in touch w former student & ask if they felt prepared
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q6: How might we, as teachers, best model self-directed lifelong learning for our students? How are you a SDLL?
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@eringobragh29
Yep! And that’s hard to break… it’s not about the grade, but about the desire to dig deeper!
#edchatme
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@MsRedmanEnglish
The 4 does not equal the A. This is the very first thing I
#SEARCHANDDESTROY
. Scores, not grades.
#edchatme
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A5 Reg check ins w/Ss. Be ready for the moaning, stay pos w/Ss. we're ALL learning & you have to self-eval. Ss are watching us
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:21 PM EDT
And there is part of the battle /challenge w/Ss & Ps. Changing that traditional mindset.
#EdChatME
https://t.co/1RDSX2XfTw
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@eringobragh29
Yep! And that’s hard to break… it’s not about the grade, but about the desire to dig deeper!
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A5: See also, A4 parts 1 and 2!
#edchatme
Not sure how/whether we *should* assess tendencies towards "self-directed lifelong learner."
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@DougHodum
exactly what I thought, but didn't say quite so well. Conversations, not scores.
#edchatme
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A5: Ts not practicing SDLL themselves. I encounter a lot of fixed mindset re: technology, but I am just as bad in other areas
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#edchatme
Q6 coming at you in as a flashy visual!
https://t.co/6ALMapLSIp
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A6: Always be willing to take risk, fail, experiment, learn, collaborate, and build. Infinitely repeat.
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@briley8557
I suppose I need to know where “consistently” falls on a scale before I answer… what’s on either side?
#edchatme
DougHodum
May 9 @ 9:22 PM EDT
.
@MichaelisMath
Thank you. I think that is something that is interdisciplinary. Ss will truly exceed in the areas of interest!
#EdChatME
alicebarr
May 9 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
Great point. If we expect students to be lifelong learners, we must model learning too and failing at it!
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Sorry to have missed the bulk of the SDLL GP
#EdChatME
tonight, looks like the convo has been lively once again!
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Preach,
@WickedDecent
!
#edchatme
(for scholarships, etc., the decisions are made by a small group. That ok here?)
https://t.co/cBvieS9mXN
WickedDecent
May 9 @ 9:06 PM EDT
HS able to bestow scholarships & dept awards via committee & discussion; can we not also determine guiding principles achievemet?
#edchatme
briley8557
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
#edchatme
This isn't popular, but sometimes, we don't see the full results until much later, after the S has graduated & is out in the world
AmyHediger
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A6: Share/talk own passions/goals. Let Ss know you as a person, not just their teacher. These stories they remember yrs later.
#EdChatME
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A6: We definitely need to be modeling this and sharing our own learning. Celebrate EVERYONE's learning, not just Ss!
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A6: Convincing myself that I'm not collecting data for the sake of data. If it can be meaningful, I can get behind it.
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
Given that… let’s just say you had to. What’s the safest bet, the most sound & measurable-ish source of evidence?
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A6: I am a SDLL by being greedy. Taking and learning from everyone I interact with
#EdChatME
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A6: Talk to students & colleagues about things you that have learned outside your comfort zone. Be proud of learning new things.
#edchatme
angelasearles94
May 9 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Couldn't have said it better!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/pegCf9Kodt
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A6: We definitely need to be modeling this and sharing our own learning. Celebrate EVERYONE's learning, not just Ss!
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A5 Big challenge for SDLL: many performance indicators require multiple pieces of longitudinal evidence, AND reflection.
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A6: I try new things all the time. New apps, explore curiosities, and ask Qs of colleagues in other content areas… just to learn!
#edchatme
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A6: I went to a workshop right before vaca. Came back and immediately shared my learning with Ts & Ss. "I learned this...!"
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
May 9 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Being SDLL can be situational. There are areas I'm ready to break out of comfort zone; others not so much
#edchatme
https://t.co/sjgyZ1hT2n
alicebarr
May 9 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
Great point. If we expect students to be lifelong learners, we must model learning too and failing at it!
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A6 cont… I duck in on my Ss other classes when I can, just to have an understanding of co-learning or transfer opportunities!
#edchatme
andrewtwallace
May 9 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#NEXTSTEPS
: What will you do this week (and beyond!) to actively promote "SDLL" with students & colleagues?
#EdChatME
alicebarr
May 9 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A6: Student unconference gives students practice sharing their passion but must be SDLL to pitch it.
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Sometimes, my students are learning content in other classes I never learned, or forgot… I love to have them remind or teach me!
#edchatme
briley8557
May 9 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A6
#edchatme
Model your own learning and there us certainly a lot to learn on a daily basis in our schools. Showing how to deal w/failure 2
Sean_Malone
May 9 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A6: Being an SDLL is understand the current moment of life. Connecting with Ss makes them want to be better.
#EdChatME
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#edchatme
#nextsteps
-- I will keep helping my Ss break down lang. to find entry points, to be *able* to ask "how can I..." & "What next?"
kelley_weiss
May 9 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A6 Share your learning and passion with your school community. Provide opportunities to open the school for community learning
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@alicebarr
say more! is this modeled after
#Edcamp
or
#geniushour
or a hybrid of both?
#edchatme
?
nataleestotz
May 9 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#NEXTSTEPS
: implementing Personal Learning Plans & explicitly teaching Ss who to be SDLL- SDL seminar.
#EdChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
May 9 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Let’s talk
#NextSteps
- how we will turn tonight into something even more real!
#edchatme
https://t.co/Cn3hK0oCsK
alicebarr
May 9 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
It’s a hybrid. Some organization up front because of numbers but passion based sharing
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 9 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#nextsteps
Continue to admit it immediately when I don't know something, and make a big deal of looking it up.
#edchatme