#edchatie Archive


Monday October 22, 2018
3:30 PM EDT

  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's #edchatie LIVE discussion. As usual, before we start, please introduce yourself and remember to add the hashtag #edchatie into all of your tweets too so they can be added to the transcript later.
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's #edchatie LIVE discussion. As usual, before we start, please introduce yourself and remember to add the hashtag #edchatie into all of your tweets too so they can be added to the transcript later.
  • catherinem23 Oct 22 @ 3:32 PM EDT
    Catherine from Killarney checking in. Teaching in London as Head of Digital Learning #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • catherinem23 Oct 22 @ 3:32 PM EDT
    Catherine from Killarney checking in. Teaching in London as Head of Digital Learning #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • mssweeneyhomeec Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    Evening all. Julie, Home Ec teacher. kids are in bed for once on time šŸ‘ŠšŸ¤£ #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • mssweeneyhomeec Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    Evening all. Julie, Home Ec teacher. kids are in bed for once on time šŸ‘ŠšŸ¤£ #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    John here in Cork. First time back in a while! #edchatie
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    John here in Cork. First time back in a while! #edchatie
  • KMUBarry Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    Kate, secondary teacher in Cork. I've found @tombennett71 to be the calm, humane voice of all things behaviour-management. Here he is giving sensible, practical advice in this vintage video https://t.co/h971QIjz7h #edchatie
  • KMUBarry Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    Kate, secondary teacher in Cork. I've found @tombennett71 to be the calm, humane voice of all things behaviour-management. Here he is giving sensible, practical advice in this vintage video https://t.co/h971QIjz7h #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Fred Boss, 2nd Level art teacher, currently with @NCCAie #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Fred Boss, 2nd Level art teacher, currently with @NCCAie #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    OK - let's begin discussing tonight's topic of "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools" If you have links to useful websites, please do include them in your tweets too. #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    OK - let's begin discussing tonight's topic of "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools" If you have links to useful websites, please do include them in your tweets too. #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    Amy, secondary Irish teacher in Limerick #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    Amy, secondary Irish teacher in Limerick #edchatie
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Catriona here, principal in Ennis #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Catriona here, principal in Ennis #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    What do we define 'Challenging Behaviour' to be? Are there common themes that we face? #edchatie
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    What do we define 'Challenging Behaviour' to be? Are there common themes that we face? #edchatie
  • mssweeneyhomeec Oct 22 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    interested to hear what works on the ground. Been around a lot of schools & seen a lot of different approaches. What all successful approaches had in common though I think was a clear vision by mgt which was consistently applied across the board #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • mssweeneyhomeec Oct 22 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    interested to hear what works on the ground. Been around a lot of schools & seen a lot of different approaches. What all successful approaches had in common though I think was a clear vision by mgt which was consistently applied across the board #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Complete ignorance of rules, no respect for authority, aggression towards others They'd be the ones I struggle with anyway #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Complete ignorance of rules, no respect for authority, aggression towards others They'd be the ones I struggle with anyway #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • miriambergin Oct 22 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    My Consumer task to ensure students explore https://t.co/WhLn3sIo8n I can only share via my blog now with GDPR restrictions.. #edchatie https://t.co/mP5TYmt9TM
  • miriambergin Oct 22 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    My Consumer task to ensure students explore https://t.co/WhLn3sIo8n I can only share via my blog now with GDPR restrictions.. #edchatie https://t.co/mP5TYmt9TM
  • languages_ie Oct 22 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Anyone tried Flippity? Looks like a lot of possibilities. Have a browse! https://t.co/qHwRkWe20H @flippitynet #languages #mflire #edchatie #mflie @jctMFL @PDST_MFL
  • languages_ie Oct 22 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Anyone tried Flippity? Looks like a lot of possibilities. Have a browse! https://t.co/qHwRkWe20H @flippitynet #languages #mflire #edchatie #mflie @jctMFL @PDST_MFL
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Tonight on #edchatie we're discussing "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools" Share your strategies.
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Aggression towards staff & students (verbal or otherwise) PHONES Delaying going to class / avoiding going to class & trying to hide in toilets... #edchatie
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    OK. I have the luxury of a flexible timetable, but I'm a total pest for tardy students in the corridor. I will follow, and follow, and follow until they would prefer to be in class rather than have me repeating 'you need to be in class' on an infinite loop! #edchatie
  • Funsize30 Oct 22 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    Hazel post primary #edchatie apologies for late entry :)
    In reply to @fboss
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    We introduced a complete ban on phones last year. Not allowed at any stage whatsoever during the school day. Has worked very well #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • mssweeneyhomeec Oct 22 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    we use "hall pass" - each teacher has one to give out so anyone on the corridor at class times is meant to show their pass if queried by another teacher. Also no toilet breaks allowed 1st class after breaks so periods 1,4 & 7. #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • johnmayo Oct 22 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Ahhh. Hall passes so American!!!! #edchatie Are they just paper or are there attached to something embarrassing?
    In reply to @mssweeneyhomeec, @johnmhurley
  • Funsize30 Oct 22 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Strategies must be clear and consistent - "same hymn sheet" is essential for dealing with difficult behaviour #edchatie
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    We limit toilet breaks to periods 2, 5, 8. Smallish school - so you tend to know most of the students. Definitely all the regular strollers! #edchatie
    In reply to @mssweeneyhomeec
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    Wow! How was the introduction of the ban? Did you have much opposition from parents? #edchatie
    In reply to @MsAOBrien
  • ScoilnetPrimary Oct 22 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    Explore the science of SLIME, discover the parts of the skeleton or construct Halloween masks on the Scoilnet Primary Halloween Theme Page! https://t.co/egsITWHJL0 #DigitalLearning #DigitalLiteracy #edchatie #Scoilnet #FreeResources
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    We're at the halfway point of our #edchatie live discussion on "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools" tonight. Join and and share your strategies
  • miriambergin Oct 22 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    #edchatie We use 3 clear instructions, Give 1st clear instruction to stop doing, tchr pause...then 2nd clear instruction is serious to tell student tostop doing.....tchr pause,,then 3rd instruction extremely serious..goes to class tchr...We raise hand to get silence& sts copy
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    We have a no phones policy but that's primary. Also interested to hear how it went down at secondary level #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley, @MsAOBrien
  • CuffeL Oct 22 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    In youthreach I found that increasing my tolerance for suboptimal behaviour went a long way towards geting an effective class for the students who wished to engage. For the others it was a waiting game #edchatie
  • MrGaryPatrick Oct 22 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    Gary, 6th Class SET. Apologies for joining late.. #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    It actually went quite smoothly. We increased the length of time for confiscation to a full week. Once the first phone was taken, they adhered to it quite quickly #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • GermanTeachIRL Oct 22 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    Eistear, Mayo, MFL teacher. The support of a robust whole-school behaviour system is vital. When the same strategies are applied across the school, students feel secure and behave better. An effective referral system is a needful part of this #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    Our mobile phone policy is: No phones during class time (only at breaks) On 1st offence, phone goes to office, collect at end of day (use log-book there) 2nd - collect at end of next day 3rd - parent/guardian collects at end of next day #edchatie
  • NBmindset Oct 22 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    Also a ā€œregulation stationā€ for children to be redirected and change their pattern of behaviour that is impacting on the classroom learning environment šŸ˜€#edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    Primary level here, we use the Incredible Years. Some wonderful positive behaviour strategies in there, including Happygrams which are lovely. Its the foundation for the good behaviour and hopefully reduces the level of challenging behaviour, long term. #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    Parents were happy for the most part. Opposition really only came from parents after a phone had been taken. Office received some angry calls but after a term or so it all calmed down. Has worked very well since then #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • MrGaryPatrick Oct 22 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    I'd recommend reading any of Bill Rogers' behavioural management books. I read 'How to Manage Children's Challenging Behaviour' a few years ago. It helped with a particular child I had. #edchatie
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    Absolutely. My mantra is 'it's never just you'. Some students will challenge, and they will do that for a number of teachers. Very hard for new teachers in a school to fully accept that, and they feel bad about their own professionalism or place in the school. #edchatie
    In reply to @CatrionaGolden
  • nurtureireland Oct 22 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    A significant nurture group principle we work with is ā€œall behaviour is communicationā€. With our nurturing approach within a nurture group intervention, we try to allow the pupils to discuss their behaviour patterns, triggers&become more self aware in creating change. #edchatie
    • fboss Oct 22 @ 3:50 PM EDT
      Tonight on #edchatie we're discussing "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools" Share your strategies.
  • FoleyKev Oct 22 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    Kevin here a recently retired Teaching Principal with Irelands first Primary School STEAM Room #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    Very similar to our old plan. We found that a lot of bullying (Snapchat!) was happening at breaks and between classes so opted for the full ban #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • GermanTeachIRL Oct 22 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    Students behave well when they know the rules, when they know that penalties will be rigourously implemented, when they feel they belong and & when they see that you have taken the time to learn their names. Be strict & be kind -it's a tricky balancing act #edchatie
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    I think this can be particularly difficult at primary level, because there is no change in classes. If you have a student or no. of students pushing the boundaries and causing disruption, you've got them full time. #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • daire_lambert Oct 22 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    I always use the pip n' rip for my behaviour management in class. Praise in public and reprimand in private. #edchatie
  • FoleyKev Oct 22 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    STEAM Room learning revolutionised teaching and learning in my https://t.co/wYx3ueB8lW engaged pupils of all levels #edchatie
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    A full ban is definitely something to consider. I've recently had students genuinely unwell, phoning home to get collected. Bypassing the normal protocol of going through the year head & office. When they phone we miss things that are important. #edchatie
    In reply to @MsAOBrien
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:13 PM EDT
    *thinks* "thank God I'm in Secondary" #edchatie
    In reply to @CatrionaGolden
  • CuffeL Oct 22 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    For some students with executive function issues, this can be hard. Lots of immediate praise for good behaviour helps. #edchatie
    In reply to @GermanTeachIRL
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    We've been spending the last 45 miinutes of tonight's live #edchatie discussion chatting about "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools". Please keep sharing out links to useful sites and other examples of strategies you have.
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    Was thinking the same thing! Often very grateful for that bell after 40 minutes #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley, @CatrionaGolden
  • BarMorr Oct 22 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    This is a fantastic resource from the @Webwise_Ireland team and could readily be used by schools. The website is also a treasure trove of other useful teaching resources for developing childrenā€™s online safety skills #SPHE #ChildProtection #edchatie https://t.co/4y8sWXyM2X
  • mssweeneyhomeec Oct 22 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    #edchatie Hattie suggests teacher credibility is fundamental to a successfull learning environment https://t.co/G8eiuU1Pny
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    With some groups it really helps if you can identify the natural leaders & build a positive relationship with them. 2 different tasks there. And sometimes that can be very hard to do. #edchatie
  • johnmayo Oct 22 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    #edchatie the @pivotalpodcast early espidoes were very good and worth going back to on occasion.
  • FoleyKev Oct 22 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    Retirement is great John #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    On a self-care note: Talk, folks. Find someone who you trust & who understands your situation. Don't let things get you down, because this profession can and will demand a lot of you. "no student has the right to reside rent free in the back of your head" #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    Have been working on a new strategy with 2 colleagues. Aim is to reward positive behaviour. Basically, students will have 5 specific criteria to meet. They'll receive a stamp on their "loyalty card" if/when they do. 10 stamps = no homework #edchatie
  • GermanTeachIRL Oct 22 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    That follows on when you know their names - it shows a level of individual interest and you will start, perhaps subconsciously, dealing with each child particularly, in the hope of bringing out the best in them #edchatie
    In reply to @CuffeL
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Students who fill the most "loyalty cards" by the end of the year will get some sort of treat day - pizza party, cinema trip #edchatie
  • BridCarlow Oct 22 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    @fboss Very late , my apologies Primary learning support . #edchatie
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    We use a lot of strategies to pre-empt challenging behaviour. When we see someone starting to struggle, movement breaks, break cards, visual cues. We've just put in a new 'sensory trail' in the corridor olfor movement breaks to get some of the energy out, as needed. #edchatie
  • CuffeL Oct 22 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    The closer the reward comes to the good behaviour the more effective it is #edchatie
    In reply to @MsAOBrien
  • fboss Oct 22 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    We're into the famous five final minutes of tonight's #edchatie live discussion on "Strategies for managing challenging behaviour in schools" Any last thoughts, ideas, solutions or links? Transcript will be compiled tomorrow, so there's still time to add them
  • BridCarlow Oct 22 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    Try to make a personal connection with the child . Give choices rather than an ultimatum . #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    Sounds like some really well-thought out stuff there. Do ye have a written strategy? How did you manage to implement across the school, etc? #edchatie
    In reply to @CatrionaGolden
  • physicsteacher Oct 22 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    Delighted to see Ireland's first @researchED1 event will be with us in 12 months. It is sorely needed. Recent (and not so recent) research in education is sure to be to the fore, regardless of whether or not it is popular in wider education circles #edchatie @researchEDDub
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    We're actually revamping our code of behaviour currently which will include all of this. As of now, it's just as the SNAs and teachers see the need. We also timetable AGG support around key times e.g. SNA breaks, straight after break and lunch and other trigger times. #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    I have a list of teachers & educators I follow on twitter, if anyone's interested. https://t.co/oQoEA2FcIo #edchatie
  • MsAOBrien Oct 22 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    Thanks for the tip. Only in pilot stage with first years at the moment. The visual of the card and stamps seems to be motivating at the moment #edchatie
    In reply to @CuffeL
  • CatrionaGolden Oct 22 @ 4:29 PM EDT
    Implementation: I only started in Sept so we're still working through kinks. But I have an excellent staff and everyone is on the same page in terms of managing challenging behaviour which is key. We've set up a behaviour committee to assess and revamp our approaches. #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmhurley
  • johnmayo Oct 22 @ 4:29 PM EDT
    #edchatie I find it strange that the words teacher -student relationship was not mention once tonight. Most important thing IMHO
  • johnmhurley Oct 22 @ 4:29 PM EDT
    Would be genuinely interested to see you new code. Keep us informed? And good luck with the process. #edchatie
    In reply to @CatrionaGolden