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hackmylearning Dec 11 @ 9:00 AM EST

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SlideshowGen Dec 11 @ 9:00 AM EST

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TamraDollar Dec 11 @ 9:00 AM EST

Support students in creating SMART goals #hacklearning #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:01 AM EST

Good morning! Emerging from the cocoon of a stomach virus after 3 days! Yuck! #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:02 AM EST

Welcome to #sunchat! Today, we are talking alternatives to standardized testing. Introduce yourself, and let's do this!

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:02 AM EST

omg. Sending healing thoughts your way. #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:03 AM EST

Hello! My name is Lindsey, and I'm a ECE Major at SNHU and joining one of my first twitter chats! #sunchat

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

#sunchat Good morning ALL! Jace from NJ...Too cold today!

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

Thanks. In the spirit of this giving season, I've passed it onto my husband. He's not grateful for that gift. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:02 AM EST

omg. Sending healing thoughts your way. #sunchat
In reply to @susankotch

fotiy_nikitin Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

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MelissaBalcom Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

Good morning! I'm a librarian in Texas! #sunchat

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

Meredith in SW Florida. #sunchat if States are required to administer standardized tests is an alternative possible? #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

Welcome Lindsey! Been seeing so many education students join #sunchat this month. Very exciting. I consider it the BEST PD.

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:03 AM EST

Hello! My name is Lindsey, and I'm a ECE Major at SNHU and joining one of my first twitter chats! #sunchat

whitneykilgore Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

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In reply to @FMHSCestlaVie, @PledgeCents

jessica_reddout Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

Good morning #sunchat Jess, 8th ELA from SC.

marcos_sp0001 Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

#sunchat As mais pedidas da semana no ar! https://t.co/5o6rZgCiZm

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

Love our librarians! Thanks for joining #sunchat

In reply to @MelissaBalcom

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

Good morning, #sunchat tweeps! I'm disabled and not teaching now, but I can't stay away from eduTwitter! Tweeting from snowy Michigan. :)

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

Welcome, Lindsey! @LindseyChambs #sunchat

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LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:03 AM EST

Hello! My name is Lindsey, and I'm a ECE Major at SNHU and joining one of my first twitter chats! #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

Good morning, #sunchat I'm Lee, an instructional tech coach and teacher from NY.

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM EST

I'm Brian. I teach MS Ss Eng in CO. Not much sun here today; fortunately, there's #sunchat.

MrsLedford6Eng Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

Welcome! And watch out! They can be addicting! Haha! #sunchat

In reply to @LindseyChambs

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

Good morning 🌞! Latoya, ed leader from SC here for fun! #sunchat

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

Welcome to #sunchat Just FYI this one is a little different since there are no specific Qs - just a topic.

In reply to @LindseyChambs

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

My name is kent willmann I work at CU Boulder. "You can't measure that with some standardized test," describes real education. #sunchat

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

Good morning! Carolina, middle school teacher from Boston. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

My state has moved some state assessments to PBLs. It's possible. We have to be an educated voice in the convos #sunchat

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST

Meredith in SW Florida. #sunchat if States are required to administer standardized tests is an alternative possible? #sunchat

MrsLedford6Eng Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

#sunchat I'm Jen from IN! Yay for another chat this morning!

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

The thing about #sunchat....

MrsLedford6Eng Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST

Welcome! And watch out! They can be addicting! Haha! #sunchat
In reply to @LindseyChambs

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

I'm coming around to view that just 'cause we might have learning standards doesn't mean that testing must always be standardized. #sunchat

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

Also, don't hesitate to ask about abbreviations being used. Educators have a lot of their own. #sunchat

In reply to @LindseyChambs

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

Good morning #sunchat I am. Superintendent from Long Island, NY 😊

andie_lance Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

GM, I'm Andie, Tech Coach in SC. #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

waiting for our first snow here in NJ. So far, nothing yet! #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:07 AM EST

Welcome Carolina. Good to have you here with us at #sunchat

In reply to @MsVila

Celia_Dumbra Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

Good Morning, #sunchat. Celia, ESL Teacher, NJ.

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

We're supposed to get 6-10" more by tomorrow morning on top of the foot we have now. Yay! #lovesnow #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

so happy to have you here with us. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

Thanks for explaining. Perhaps ESSE being developed will be the fuel needed to feed the fire on this topic across the Nation? #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST
My state has moved some state assessments to PBLs. It's possible. We have to be an educated voice in the convos #sunchat
- mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST
  
  Meredith in SW Florida. #sunchat if States are required to administer standardized tests is an alternative possible? #sunchat

cybraryman1 Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

Eliminating testing through continuous assessment links are on My Assessments page https://t.co/Q06pwgykId #sunchat #edchat

rafaglobal6 Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

#sunchat Você pediu e a gente toca, top 10 da semana! https://t.co/bM7MX7Mnsb

MargaretLaGrand Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST

My name is Margaret, and I am a pre-service teacher studying at Grove City College. I'm excited to be here! #sunchat

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:09 AM EST

Okay perfect thank you! #sunchat #edu235

In reply to @polonerd

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:09 AM EST

Kevin from snowy IN #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:09 AM EST

I have hope. I'm following and speaking out about ESSE every chance I can. The VDOE has been very open about the process #sunchat

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM EST
Thanks for explaining. Perhaps ESSE being developed will be the fuel needed to feed the fire on this topic across the Nation? #sunchat
- tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM EST
  
  My state has moved some state assessments to PBLs. It's possible. We have to be an educated voice in the convos #sunchat
  
  mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:04 AM EST
  
  Meredith in SW Florida. #sunchat if States are required to administer standardized tests is an alternative possible? #sunchat

TeachThoughtPD Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

20 Guiding Questions To Develop A Digital Literacy Plan - TeachThought PD https://t.co/m5N0wB12S1 #edchat #sunchat

kristawelz Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Interesting info about in-car data recorders #sunchat #physics #edchat via @HowItWorksmag

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LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Most people don’t realize how MISLEADING standardized test scores are! :/ #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Multiple measures seems to be the most sane approach. Especially when you add a health dose of assessment literacy for all. #sunchat

CyndiWms5 Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Resources 4 Educators: https://t.co/zNQhHh0WCk #sunchat #hacklearning #engagechat #AussieEd #edchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

always good to see you here, Kevin. #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs

TamarraLC Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Good morning. I'm Tamarra from a wet SoCA this morning. #sunchat

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

I'm impressed with the colleges joining us on #sunchat Pretty sure I wouldn't be awake at 8am when I was in college.

In reply to @MargaretLaGrand

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:11 AM EST

Welcome! It makes me so happy to see preservice teachers joining the conversation. #sunchat

In reply to @MargaretLaGrand

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:11 AM EST

Standard, defined by American Heritage Dictionary via https://t.co/bVmJwUXkza (emphasis mine) 1/2 #sunchat

Ashida_Linda Dec 11 @ 9:11 AM EST

Good morning #sunchat :)I'm a Teaching/Learning facilitator tweeting from snowy IL.

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:11 AM EST

I don't think we're going to eliminate standardized tests any time soon, but we should cut the numbers. #toomanytests #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:11 AM EST

Standards, per se, aren't the main issue. How we use them to compare learners to other learners, though, can be problematic 2/2 #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:12 AM EST

I believe in standards and testing, but I can never fully get behind them till we focus on growth and not cut scores. #sunchat

AmizadeGlobal Dec 11 @ 9:12 AM EST

#sunchat As mais pedidas da semana no ar! https://t.co/FDpHxOxJdk

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:12 AM EST

#sunchat Instead of a one time sitting in the Spring...we should be measuring Growth...a Fall and then Spring if we stay standardized ?

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

Everything about this statement. #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:11 AM EST

Standards, per se, aren't the main issue. How we use them to compare learners to other learners, though, can be problematic 2/2 #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

So true! So why do we still have them?? #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Most people don’t realize how MISLEADING standardized test scores are! :/ #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

Trusting classroom based, teacher created, assessments that DO NOT replicate standardized testing formats would be most welcome #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

That's what many schools do, so we end up losing many days to fall testing, winter testing, spring testing...#sunchat

In reply to @inspire0818

MargaretLaGrand Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

Well, it is easier to wake up now since it is finals season. Lots to study for! #sunchat

In reply to @polonerd

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

Reminder of today's topic #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 7:48 AM EST

Alternatives to standardized testing is our #sunchat topic Sun 12/11 at 9amET! Join me @JamieArmin @tiffanytruitt @susankotch edcamp style!
In reply to @JamieArmin, @tiffanytruitt, @susankotch

rashidfdavis Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

#Congrats @WPCgroup #PTECH Featured 2016 #Australia Educator Magazine Hot List https://t.co/e2LqIswCPl #sunchat #globaledchat #GlobalEd

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

We will never hope to close achievement gaps till we move to growth based assessments. That's step number one. It HAS to be. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM EST

Yes. Yes. Yes. #sunchat

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:12 AM EST

#sunchat Instead of a one time sitting in the Spring...we should be measuring Growth...a Fall and then Spring if we stay standardized ?

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM EST

14 years ago this article made frightening predictions: The 500-Pound Gorilla via @alfiekohn #sunchat #edreform https://t.co/sjdqUcJCvl

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM EST

I join the rest of those on here who undoubtedly share a disdain for these tests. I'm interested to see alternatives #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM EST

But we have to remember that testing is a business. There are other stakeholders involved. Be mindful of this. #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM EST

Right. Just because the 𝘵𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘴 are standardized doesn't mean any of myriad other variable have been controlled! #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz

Your_Drum Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower." -Steve Jobs #yourdrum #QOTD #sundaymorning #sunchat #spiritchat

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

As a student myself, and experiencing standardize testing I find them to not show the student's full grasp of the knowledge #sunchat #edu235

Hist_simulation Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

^DH#WWII The National D-Day Memorial #sunchat https://t.co/QM9fvzovFE

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

Sadly, we have them because standardized testing is a multi-million dollar industry. :-( #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

In my last yr teaching #Spanish, I started using "I can" stampsheets as a quiz grade, and many Sts loved them. Concrete measure. #sunchat

ChrisAFRIN Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

#sunchat with standardised tests we all have to hit the same target …… but can we all be as good as Robin Hood?

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

Agreed. And take into account that the variables differ everywhere. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:12 AM EST

I believe in standards and testing, but I can never fully get behind them till we focus on growth and not cut scores. #sunchat

JamieArmin - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

#sunchat Morning Everyone! Checking in a bit late & thankful for my #sunchat co-mods! Late night out at my hub's company party!

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

EXACTLY!! #sunchat

In reply to @brianrozinsky

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

That's rough Do you have the chat schedule? I host #1to1techat Wed 8pm CST https://t.co/znR9Pridjr #sunchat

In reply to @TamarraLC, @MargaretLaGrand

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM EST

Love what middle school history is doing: project based assessments. School districts design project and get approval from state. #sunchat

Ashida_Linda Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM EST

Our district is adopting a multimetric approach w RedefiningReady https://t.co/wxPoqTdqQf - A natl campaign #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM EST

Let's keep some perspective #sunchat

MrsLedford6Eng Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM EST

I mention "The evil I word" from time to time. I tell the Ss I am preparing them for battle. #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM EST

I think the powers that be have a problem with "trusting" anything teachers do nowadays. #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

Trusting classroom based, teacher created, assessments that DO NOT replicate standardized testing formats would be most welcome #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

How can we make grades a better measurement? #sunchat

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

Standards serve as a good target, but we won't all get there at the same rate. #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

We used NWEA MAP in my last district--days lost three times a yr to that thing, plus a week to state testing. #sunchat

In reply to @inspire0818

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

Sometimes, business of testing strikes me as being at cross purposes w/business of learning. 1/2 #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

And this needs to be okay! Not everyone learns at same rate, but most get there in the end. #sunchat

In reply to @OHara_HPS

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

Need to build respectful/ aligned PBLs in our classrooms to prove to powers that be they can be successful indicators or learning #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Interesting. Not a huge believer in PBL; but if there is some Ss choice this could be interesting #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

Ashida_Linda Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Will do @polonerd! #sunchat. He's one of my favorite peeps @ElkGrove_HS :)

In reply to @polonerd, @ElkGrove_HS

R_H_Steele Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Good morning #EdSlowChat family! Here is this week's question from @NancyWTech --- #edchat #leadupchat #sunchat #txeduchat #iaedchat #oklaed

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Perhaps part of answer to dismantling standardized testing is to examine what caused tremendous increase since 70's in their use #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

For that matter, business of learning sometimes lands at cross purposes with ｐｒａｃｔｉｃｅ of learning! 2/2 #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Before we can close achievement gaps, we have to close aspiration gaps... #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST

We will never hope to close achievement gaps till we move to growth based assessments. That's step number one. It HAS to be. #sunchat

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Exactly. The state wants a measurement, while Ss really need an education. How much time to we waste? #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz, @susankotch

JamieArmin - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

Loving #pbl classroom, deep questions & discussions! Alternatives to testing = presentations @susankotch @tiffanytruitt #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch, @tiffanytruitt

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

The problem is focusing on the wrong test. Goal setting should follow standards based common classroom assessments. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

PMcPeake1 Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

As a parent I don't need a test to show me my child is learning. If he likes the T, the class and talks about it at home I'm in. #sunchat

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST

#sunchat. So many acronyms here today...So many different tests!

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

The math sections of these tests still encourage the "drill and kill" teaching. That's my biggest problem with them right now. #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

We'd have to start with Pearson (aka Evil Empire) and Bush brother, Neil. #sunchat

In reply to @mjjohnson1216

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

Yes! I agree! #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM EST

Love what middle school history is doing: project based assessments. School districts design project and get approval from state. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

what are you beefs with PBL? I have some as well...they can be hugely successful and a huge waste of time. #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

Hi everyone, checking in late. #sunchat

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

Wrote about it here: https://t.co/ne1A80bGsy #sunchat

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

The math sections of these tests still encourage the "drill and kill" teaching. That's my biggest problem with them right now. #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:20 AM EST

Education is NOT All About College and Career Readiness. It's About the JOURNEY!!! #sunchat https://t.co/mYpU1nVa5r

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:20 AM EST

And that won't happen when one test score defines a student. #sunchat

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM EST
Before we can close achievement gaps, we have to close aspiration gaps... #sunchat
- tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:13 AM EST
  
  We will never hope to close achievement gaps till we move to growth based assessments. That's step number one. It HAS to be. #sunchat

mssackstein - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:20 AM EST

Starr from NYchecking in from the airport in Pittsburgh coming home #wgedd #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:20 AM EST

I think we can overproject, and it really needs to be well-conceived to be worth the time consumed #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

Media_Barber Dec 11 @ 9:20 AM EST

Standard tests provide rich info on group statistics. But rubrics provide better ind info. Diff goals. #sunchat

In reply to @mjjohnson1216

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:20 AM EST

Nor do they measure the passion and persistence #grit students will develop later in life. Lots of avg. people w/ high SAT scores #sunchat

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM EST

As a student myself, and experiencing standardize testing I find them to not show the student's full grasp of the knowledge #sunchat #edu235

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

There is a conflict of interest between standardized testing and learning. #sunchat

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

I also think there should be more formative ASMTs in schools today. To see where students are at in the course b4 testing #sunchat #edu235

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Not all stakeholders are on board with that (though it's dang true!), sadly. It's about growth, learning, journey. #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

@tiffanytruitt We might want to look at how we eliminate the gap from the start. What's the root of the gap? #sunchat

In reply to @OHara_HPS, @tiffanytruitt

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Do we have to use grades at all? #sunchat

In reply to @kwillmann

twjovem Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

#sunchat Top10 in RadioGlobal https://t.co/kVx6F9zd8c

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

This is specifically about PARCC. I expected more from that test. #sunchat

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST
Wrote about it here: https://t.co/ne1A80bGsy #sunchat
- MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST
  
  The math sections of these tests still encourage the "drill and kill" teaching. That's my biggest problem with them right now. #sunchat

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Deeper than the "who" into the "why" and what political emphasis was seeking to grasp w/ them. Reason why so much $$ is being used #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM EST

We'd have to start with Pearson (aka Evil Empire) and Bush brother, Neil. #sunchat
In reply to @mjjohnson1216

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

We give our Ss technology, tell them it's important, then use lecture & standardized tests. HUGE Disconnect here. #sunchat

ShiftParadigm Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

#2593 Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings - always darker, emptier and simpler. — Friedrich Nietzsche #sunchat #AussieEd

mssackstein - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Hate tests of every kind. I'm all about authentic learning experiences designed with kids' needs in mind, w kids #sunchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

The antidote to standardized tests are teacher-created common formative assessment, featuring an immediate response #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

Or what about this alternate question: How can we make a better measurement [of learning] than grades? #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

How can we make grades a better measurement? #sunchat

igniteincite Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

How To Ensure Students Are Actively Engaged and Not Just Compliant https://t.co/VNWzQK0A9a #edchat #sunchat #onedchat @EduTweetOz

In reply to @EduTweetOz

PMcPeake1 Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

I'm interested in progress. If I can see my 13 yr old is adding to his toolbox it doesn't have to be at break neck speed. #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

The Blueberry Story: The teacher gives the businessman a lesson #sunchat https://t.co/cp12dbum1S

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

These tests are representative of the larger problem- a culture focused on grades instead growth, learning #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

The Who is part of the Why. When powerful people decide to profit off of Sts, they don't care about Why. #sunchat

In reply to @mjjohnson1216

Ashida_Linda Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST

If only we didn't! @mrclinefhs @kwillmann #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs, @kwillmann

ShiftParadigm Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

#2594 To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. — Lao Tzu #sunchat #edslowchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

Long-term student goal setting based on standardized tests does not work. Must be short -erm and based on formative assessment. #sunchat

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

Is there room for performance assessments in this conversation? Assessments that assess depth of knowledge instead of regurgitation #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

Boom! THE question! #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST
Or what about this alternate question: How can we make a better measurement [of learning] than grades? #sunchat
- kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST
  
  How can we make grades a better measurement? #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

That’s a big part of the problem. They still hold on to the industrial view of education as a way to train workers. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

I also think it's unfair to assume that all students will have careers needing those tested skill sets. #life #sunchat

mjjohnson1216 Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

I often reflect on the power of Twitter in devlping a voice on ed. issues whether it be homework, testing. Be interesting over time #sunchat

mssackstein - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Hate tests of every kind. I'm all about authentic learning experiences designed with kids' needs in mind, w kids #sunchat

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

Ts see the writing on the wall w/ these tests. Give this one until we choose another one, repeat as necessary. Awful system #sunchat

In reply to @MsVila

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

We have to establish that growth mindset in our classrooms and build student confidence. Look for small victories. #sunchat

JemMuldoon Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

Oh @LeeAraoz,so much work to be done here. Immeasurable time and money for data that say so very little. We know better. #miched #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:10 AM EST

Most people don’t realize how MISLEADING standardized test scores are! :/ #sunchat

Ms_A_Yeh Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

BLOG: I asked my students for feedback - what did they say? #sunchat #kidsdeserveit #hacklearning #edchat #musedchat https://t.co/l5ndMfl1HW

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

#sunchat I was always a very low test taker and I think I've been successful n life...but the scores never predicted that success for me ?!

fbaduni Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

He participado en 51 hashtags un total de 113 veces. Mi TOP #sunchat #boblagimati #ProudOfLouis https://t.co/IYp341IDMN #TuitUtil

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

What would happen if teaching to the test was a badge of honor? Imagine tests that are worth teaching to! #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

Pseudo-devil's advocacy: 1 of drivers in dispensing tech in my corner of world is to use (partly) for testing purposes. #sunchat

In reply to @polonerd

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

It's what we know, and most of us don't question it. We need to, and we need to get Ps questioning it. #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

YES this should be the focus. It is what works best. #sunchat

In reply to @LindseyChambs

kristawelz Dec 11 @ 9:25 AM EST

Fantastic gift for teens! Polaroid Snap Touch! Instant photography; requires no toner! #sunchat #photography

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:25 AM EST

WE sure DO! #sunchat

In reply to @JemMuldoon

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:25 AM EST

Exactly. So what are we trying to measure? I believe it's more to measure schools than Ss. #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch

Ryan7Read Dec 11 @ 9:25 AM EST

Please vote for my video. It's the last day. https://t.co/FUIQ09armi #sunchat #sunchatwc

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:25 AM EST

You beat me to it. This is what happens when we use a business model to view students #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz, @CarinaHilbert

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

So many of us talk about practices and strategies that meet needs of Ss. Students NEED assessments that measure depth of knowledge. #sunchat

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

Is there room for performance assessments in this conversation? Assessments that assess depth of knowledge instead of regurgitation #sunchat

PMcPeake1 Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

I feel for S's who think their future is determined by them and stress about them to the point of becoming ill. #sunchat

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Hey #sunchat! Dan here jumping in late (I think?)

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Q- Can we be comfortable trusting Ts to craft the assessment? #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

I don't have a problem with our test. It's rigorous and aligned to standards. I have a problem with how it is scored. #sunchat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

What would happen if teaching to the test was a badge of honor? Imagine tests that are worth teaching to! #sunchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Authentic classroom based assessment can inspire passion and persistence, show growth, inspire learning. #sunchat

In reply to @OHara_HPS

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

Crying, vomiting, anxiety and panic attacks--I have seen all of those. It feels abusive. #sunchat

In reply to @PMcPeake1

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

Yes, parents have REAL POWER in this arena. The opt out movement is HUGE in NY State. My kids do NOT take CC tests. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

How do we achieve this? So many current models aren't working. #sunchat

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST
So many of us talk about practices and strategies that meet needs of Ss. Students NEED assessments that measure depth of knowledge. #sunchat
- latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST
  
  Is there room for performance assessments in this conversation? Assessments that assess depth of knowledge instead of regurgitation #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

The argument I hear is, "then what's the motivation?" #sunchat ummm, how about, we get smarter? Duh?!

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Do we have to use grades at all? #sunchat
In reply to @kwillmann

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

They're a growing movement in Michigan, too, thankfully. Now that I'm "just" a mom, I'm all in! #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

@kwillmann Hah YES! #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch, @kwillmann

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

Wouldn't this necessitate some measure of T & S participation in test creation vs. current disconnected hand-me-downs? #sunchat

In reply to @kwillmann

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST

I understand that. I have a personal problem w/ the letter S in SAMR though. Ts get too comfy not changing #sunchat

In reply to @brianrozinsky

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

Yes. This. This is why our schools are failing, and we are 14th in the world. #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

That’s a big part of the problem. They still hold on to the industrial view of education as a way to train workers. #sunchat
In reply to @CarinaHilbert

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

Base measurement on evidence of learning and a response for next steps, not grades. #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST
Or what about this alternate question: How can we make a better measurement [of learning] than grades? #sunchat
- kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST
  
  How can we make grades a better measurement? #sunchat

mrterborg Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

But we need to have something to show parents evidence of learning, right? #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

This is an important discussion! #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST
I don't have a problem with our test. It's rigorous and aligned to standards. I have a problem with how it is scored. #sunchat
- kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST
  
  What would happen if teaching to the test was a badge of honor? Imagine tests that are worth teaching to! #sunchat

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

#sunchat. I don't think anyone is denying the value of assessing Ss consistently in various ways...

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

@kwillmann As in that every S is the same? #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @kwillmann

Ashida_Linda Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

As a world Lang teacher, yes, perf assessments were imp indicators of progress. @latoyadixon5 #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

MattPorricelli Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

Yes!Tests stress present state of knowledge & creates a Ss vs. Ss culture - constant comparing! #PBL by nature is differentiated #sunchat

mssackstein - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST

Hate tests of every kind. I'm all about authentic learning experiences designed with kids' needs in mind, w kids #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

Yes, key word being authentic. Creating assessments is not easy. Training is needed. Lots and lots of training. #sunchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Authentic classroom based assessment can inspire passion and persistence, show growth, inspire learning. #sunchat
In reply to @OHara_HPS

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

What is the impact on the student if the opt-out is used? #sunchat

In reply to @LeeAraoz, @CarinaHilbert

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

I had to quit in the middle of taking the SATs the first time. I put so much pressure on myself. Retook later and got through it. #sunchat

PMcPeake1 Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

I feel for S's who think their future is determined by them and stress about them to the point of becoming ill. #sunchat

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

Do adults assess themselves & measure their own progress? I argue YES. How does this happen? Commitment to growth, & need to learn. #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Q- Can we be comfortable trusting Ts to craft the assessment? #sunchat

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

THIS!!! #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST
The argument I hear is, "then what's the motivation?" #sunchat ummm, how about, we get smarter? Duh?!
- mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM EST
  
  Do we have to use grades at all? #sunchat
  In reply to @kwillmann

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

Paradigm shift for sure, but worth it #sunchat

In reply to @PMcPeake1, @kwillmann

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

Nor for your teachers.... #sunchat. That's why the tests stink and shouldn't be used to measure that.

inspire0818 Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

#sunchat I was always a very low test taker and I think I've been successful n life...but the scores never predicted that success for me ?!

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

Depends. More and more colleges/universities aren't even taking test scores. @kcollege doesn't. #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs, @LeeAraoz, @kcollege

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

Sounds like you're selling measures of growth, preferably ongoing, Mr. Smith. #sunchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST
Base measurement on evidence of learning and a response for next steps, not grades. #sunchat
- brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:22 AM EST
  
  Or what about this alternate question: How can we make a better measurement [of learning] than grades? #sunchat
  
  kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST
  
  How can we make grades a better measurement? #sunchat

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST

I've got lots of issues. :) #sunchat

In reply to @brianrozinsky

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

Regardless of career, passion, perseverance and emotional intelligence are needed for fulfillment, which are not measured on tests #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST

I also think it's unfair to assume that all students will have careers needing those tested skill sets. #life #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

Agreed! It’s the teacher accountability piece I worry about. Why should Ts be judged on tests Ps and Ss don’t care about! #sunchat

In reply to @CathMus

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

Seeing short term success in learning motivates. #sunchat

In reply to @susankotch

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

I see one good assessment for 10 bad ones. That's why the states won't give test. Why chats like these and PDs are so important. #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Q- Can we be comfortable trusting Ts to craft the assessment? #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

I agree, perhaps even at district level. Does this raise the stakes on T training? #sunchat

In reply to @jpsteltz

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

I think when we start a conversation re: testing, there's an assumption from some that educators don't want to be accountable #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

As I said to another, does this raise stakes on T prep/training? #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

FVChurchAuburn Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

Church today! We stream the services online at 9 & 11 AM PST. #sunchat #spiritchat https://t.co/64d6qQVQD1

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

I vote for @RecapThat vids and @explainevrythng reflections from Ss demonstrating what they've learned. #sunchat

In reply to @mrterborg, @susankotch, @RecapThat, @explainevrythng

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

#growthmindset #grit #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:24 AM EST

We have to establish that growth mindset in our classrooms and build student confidence. Look for small victories. #sunchat

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

No impact on the students who opt out here in NY. Not sure about other states though. :-/ #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs, @CarinaHilbert

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

The greatest resistance to this movement is pressure placed on admin to assess teachers efficacy.What's the easiest way to do that? #sunchat

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:27 AM EST
How do we achieve this? So many current models aren't working. #sunchat
- jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST
  
  So many of us talk about practices and strategies that meet needs of Ss. Students NEED assessments that measure depth of knowledge. #sunchat
  
  latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:23 AM EST
  
  Is there room for performance assessments in this conversation? Assessments that assess depth of knowledge instead of regurgitation #sunchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

Yes, and scaffolded to make clear next steps.#sunchat Build an upward trajectory of success

In reply to @brianrozinsky

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

But I don't believe that's true. I very much believe that educators want to know if their students are learning and at what levels. #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

Which isn't true at all. I haven't ever known any. I've known many admins who think that, though. You're right. #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:31 AM EST

I agree that testing make students worry & are anxious to the point of illness. Not easy to try to rem a year of knowledge #edu235 #sunchat

pokraahla1 Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

Help make it happen for #Gaza's children need of clothes for Warm Winter #freepalestine https://t.co/gMUqE2XIes #sunchat

TamarraLC Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

.@PMcPeake1 I agree. I really seems stupid to stress Ss out so much over something so meaningless. #sunchat

In reply to @PMcPeake1

FVChurchAuburn Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

Did you know you can tweet along with our sermons live? Use the hashtag #FVCLive #sunchat #spiritchat https://t.co/64d6qQVQD1

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

Yes. Without standardized tests, we become the standard bearers. Some ts aren't equipped to do that yet. #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:30 AM EST

I agree, perhaps even at district level. Does this raise the stakes on T training? #sunchat
In reply to @jpsteltz

Ashida_Linda Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

Yes! & also when connected to external /auth. experiences. Some examples: https://t.co/VyFiVkQJ9N @MrDataGuy @OHara_HPS #sunchat

In reply to @MrDataGuy, @OHara_HPS

mrterborg Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

How do we water this down into data points so outsiders "get it" #sunchat :)

In reply to @polonerd, @susankotch, @RecapThat, @explainevrythng

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

I have to agree since that is the work I do. But getting started and learning as you do the work is critical. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

JennBinis Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

Latest stats I've seen was that only 20% of Ts get explicit assessment design training. There's a knowledge gap. #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

Q- Can we be comfortable trusting Ts to craft the assessment? #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

For the record, I've seen some adults (even Ts) get hung up on performance reviews same as I see Ss fret about grades/reports cards #sunchat

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:29 AM EST
Do adults assess themselves & measure their own progress? I argue YES. How does this happen? Commitment to growth, & need to learn. #sunchat
- mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST
  
  Q- Can we be comfortable trusting Ts to craft the assessment? #sunchat

FVChurchAuburn Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

If you don't have a church to go to today, join us online live at 9 & 11 AM PST. #spiritchat #sunchat #FVCLive https://t.co/64d6qQVQD1

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

Agreed. It WILL mean more work for us...but, maybe, just maybe, we would enjoy the work more. #sunchat

MattPorricelli Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST

@kwillmann and how results are delivered! If tests are given feedback must be immediate and meaningful towards learning
In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @kwillmann

LaughNYC Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

#SunChat Lazy day today

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

The ideal! I wish all would see this! I had a S wait-listed bc her SAT was too "low"; crazy bright kid! #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @LeeAraoz

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

So how do we clarify what we actually want/need? How do we show wasted instructional time due to testing? #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

Apply to a different, better college, then. :) I've seen that, too. It's insane. #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs, @LeeAraoz

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST

If it's standards based grading, can't we use that data to show where Ss are? #sunchat

In reply to @mrterborg, @susankotch, @RecapThat, @explainevrythng

cybraryman1 Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

My Standardized Testing page https://t.co/1mywY7uUrq #sunchat #edchat See: @mssackstein What makes a good test? @UFT

In reply to @mssackstein, @UFT

OHara_HPS Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

We can help Ss get beyond these feeling by teaching #growthmindset & #grit. I'll get there, just not there yet...! #sunchat

PMcPeake1 Dec 11 @ 9:26 AM EST

I feel for S's who think their future is determined by them and stress about them to the point of becoming ill. #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

My limited experience says 'yes' to this. Generating meaningful feedback feels harder than grading, yet I'm more motivated to do it #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:33 AM EST
Agreed. It WILL mean more work for us...but, maybe, just maybe, we would enjoy the work more. #sunchat
- MattPorricelli Dec 11 @ 9:32 AM EST
  
  @kwillmann and how results are delivered! If tests are given feedback must be immediate and meaningful towards learning
  In reply to @tiffanytruitt, @kwillmann

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

as standards are important but we need to recognize growth if we are spouting growth mindset philosophy #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs, @kwillmann

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

There are so many ways to see that, though. Projects, self-reflective blogs, "I can" stampsheets, whatever. #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

Thinking out loud.... We need a grade/subject level capstone of some sort. Student created? Cross curricular? #sunchat

mrterborg Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

Possibly. So standards become grades? #sunchat

In reply to @polonerd, @susankotch, @RecapThat, @explainevrythng

LindseyChambs Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

I hope we can come up easier ways to test our students because standardize test are not a true test of student's potential #edu235 #sunchat

FVChurchAuburn Dec 11 @ 9:35 AM EST

You are invited to join us online for CHURCH! #spiritchat #sunchat https://t.co/64d6qQVQD1

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:35 AM EST

@tiffanytruitt No I'm referring to prep in assessment training, pedagogy etc; if all we know is test, hard to grow #sunchat

In reply to @inspire0818, @tiffanytruitt

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:35 AM EST

Yes, it does raise stakes. Ts know their Ss best, it's obvious Ts should craft assessment #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs

Glennr1809 Dec 11 @ 9:35 AM EST

#HackLearning #sunchat #ecet2 #Edchat #iaedchat #designthinking

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:35 AM EST

A. Through being honest about what tests are used for, getting rid of those not promoting learning #sunchat

In reply to @polonerd, @latoyadixon5

poida Dec 11 @ 9:35 AM EST

What mindful educators know ....and embrace 👉 the pulse drives teaching and learning 🍎 HT @10MillionMiler https://t.co/lyTevEIZha #sunchat

In reply to @10MillionMiler

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

Does lecture based teaching in higher ed. drive too much of k-12 educational choices? #sunchat

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

There is a sense of mutual interdependence that's been created by the culture of assessment & a push for innovation-pros and cons. #sunchat

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:34 AM EST

I think we evaluate if the way we are assessing learning now is working positively to improve the teaching & learning experience?
In reply to @polonerd

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

I agree, but I want to make sure Ts are not just crafting "different", but "better" #sunchat

In reply to @jpsteltz

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

Unfortunate #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

My daughter has test anxiety, so I do all I can to downplay the test scores. Peers, Ts, other family are bad enough. #sunchat

In reply to @PMcPeake1

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

It's easy to beat up on standardized test. But why were the invented? How will we ensure our poorest districts are learning? #sunchat

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM EST

There's such an overemphasis on data. Not everything that counts can be counted. And. It everything that can be counts. #sunchat

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM EST

Wow! Great chat today! Thanks, all! See you next week! 😄 #sunchat

jpsteltz Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM EST

customized for their students while maintaining fidelity and common experience #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM EST

B. Building a culture of learning based on classroom assessment of learning and not scores and grades. #sunchat

In reply to @polonerd, @latoyadixon5

MsVila Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM EST

Need to step out. Thanks all! #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM EST

The poorest districts need full support and #equity before we should talk about std. testing. #justsaying #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:38 AM EST

Messy but possible in my experience. Changing paradigm for Ss & especially families. #sunchat

In reply to @mrterborg, @polonerd, @susankotch

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:38 AM EST

When we come to this realization about tests and grades it frees us to use them appropriately. #sunchat

mrclinefhs Dec 11 @ 9:38 AM EST

Time to shovel #sunchat; thanks for another great chat!

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:38 AM EST

Yes, but if we can have the conversation, presuming positive intentions, we might be able to create a different method #sunchat

In reply to @mrclinefhs

drdougmccockin Dec 11 @ 9:38 AM EST

White men take the lead. Do what you want. #woke #redpill #SundayMorning #sunchat #thisweek #politicsnation #genderrelations #relationship

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:39 AM EST

yes, but standardized test were created in an effort to close the achievement gap in those districts. 1/2 #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

mrterborg Dec 11 @ 9:39 AM EST

#sunchat paradigm needs to change but how to make reporting meaningful? #sunchat

In reply to @brianrozinsky, @polonerd, @susankotch

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:39 AM EST

Pressure cooker gone wrong, sure. But that's is why we have them..so what's next? #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:39 AM EST

I've heard that myth before. They were around long before anyone cared about any gap, and they aren't about that. #sunchat /1

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

There's such an overemphasis on data. Not everything that counts can be counted, & not everything that can be counts. #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

For me, standards-based practices have started to wrestle the 'undefined level of mastery...' into clearer definition. #sunchat

In reply to @kwillmann

trendinaliaUS Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

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JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

Hi, parent here perusing late thru #sunchat. Does everyone think the answer to this question is yes?

mrterborg Dec 11 @ 9:28 AM EST

But we need to have something to show parents evidence of learning, right? #sunchat
In reply to @susankotch

bashaierk Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

#innovation #softskills #edchat #edchatMENA #sunchat

poida Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

Next term, 🚫 #teach lessons! 👉 CREATE Transformational 🚀 LEARNING EXPERIENCES! H/T @burgessdave #sunchat

In reply to @burgessdave

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:41 AM EST

Tests came first to compare Sts from diff schls in college app process & to measure IQ--also to keep racist system. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

LeeAraoz Dec 11 @ 9:41 AM EST

I REFUSE to let our nation’s obsession with standardized testing & accountability affect the way I TEACH! #sunchat https://t.co/DxdmYH6CPj

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:41 AM EST

The achievement gap cannot be solely attributed to the educational experience. Multiple factors contribute to it-poverty being one. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:41 AM EST

yes, tests like the Iowa tests. But standardized testing as we know it came around with NCLB. 1/2 #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:42 AM EST

we can't say get rid of them without viable alternatives. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

susankotch Dec 11 @ 9:42 AM EST

Exactly, especially when it comes to kids. #sunchat. There is so much to learn that isn't tested! Doesn't mean they aren't learning it!

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

There's such an overemphasis on data. Not everything that counts can be counted, & not everything that can be counts. #sunchat

trendinaliaUS Dec 11 @ 9:42 AM EST

Trend Alert: #sunchat. More trends at https://t.co/IvleifByXY #trndnl

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:42 AM EST

It isn't why we have them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be biased/racist. We have to fix tests and racist system 1st. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

Why not? Many colleges have. We already have solid alternatives in PBL, blogs, portfolios, etc. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

I don't agree, but I respect your views. Don't think all tests are bad. We just need better ones. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

While educators certainly play a role in closing it, determining who plays a role in creating it is under further review...#sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

Aye, there's rub, or one of rubs. Lately, I'm living w/grades, amping up grade-book comment game #sunchat

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HillMrispo Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

#sunchat #relevant #ourkidsdeserveit

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EagleCoachRyan Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

well put. Could not be farther from the truth, but a difficult view to break from the general public. #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:43 AM EST

I've set on many test item review committees for my state. Every effort is gone into preventing this. #sunchat

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CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:44 AM EST

I have yet to read a test that doesn't have serious bias/racism problems. AP lit/comp, NWEA MAP, CCCS tests, etc. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

HarveyEsq Dec 11 @ 9:44 AM EST

#SundayMorning #sunchat #BadAdviceForTheHeartbroken You'll find someone better than me ..... NOT #ImStillNotOver You..So, Shut Up!

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:44 AM EST

I don't think(?) they were invented to address this gap, BUT this is an important point. Anti-testing shouldn't make us lose focus. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

It's easy to beat up on standardized test. But why were the invented? How will we ensure our poorest districts are learning? #sunchat

Ryan7Read Dec 11 @ 9:44 AM EST

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brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

I will cast vote for yes. Even better, I hypothesize, could be Ss showing their families evidence of learning. #sunchat

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CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

Sure, but it's never eliminated because look who isn't at table. Look at what system is based on. Bias is inherent. #sunchat

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tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

as someone who reviews PBLs, I've seen more sad ones than good. It will take an overhaul of teaching practices 1/2 #sunchat

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JesiCygan Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

In my previous district we used Standards Based Grading. The emphasis is on student knowledge, & not points. #ISDStrong #SunChat

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM EST

How can we make grades a better measurement? #sunchat

HillMrispo Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

#sunchat Tests serve a purpose, but they can't measure the really important things!

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

and teacher training. I'm ALL for it. But can't just snap fingers for it to work #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

Can't argue with that. I have had same reaction. There are many skills to teach first. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:45 AM EST

I endorse your vote! #sunchat

In reply to @brianrozinsky

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:46 AM EST

standardized tests are a snapshot in time. Grades should be a movie review. #sunchat

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:46 AM EST

We desperately need better training, but that's another conversation about how awful most PD is. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:46 AM EST

our state test are reviewed by teachers, and Ts only, for weeks before going out in world. Question by question. #sunchat

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rashidfdavis Dec 11 @ 9:47 AM EST

#PTECH makes Hot List #Australia https://t.co/J1Ap9IHBAO Congrats @nicholas_wyman @ptechaustralia @NYCPTechSchools #sunchat @AfAmEducation

Ryan7Read Dec 11 @ 9:47 AM EST

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CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:47 AM EST

Which teachers? From which districts and backgrounds? What about SAT/ACT and their problems? #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

NCLB...No Child Left Behind..whether that was lip service is a different chat. #sunchat

In reply to @JeremyDBond

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

I suppose that problem with tests reflects that wider problem in all of education. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @tiffanytruitt

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

Accountability as both well-intentioned & running amok :) Momentum of swinging pendulums=sometimes hard to check. See: inerita. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:36 AM EST

It's easy to beat up on standardized test. But why were the invented? How will we ensure our poorest districts are learning? #sunchat

poida Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

Exactly! .... like creativity! Which manifests in design, innovation, and so much more #sunchat

danvkoch Dec 11 @ 9:40 AM EST

There's such an overemphasis on data. Not everything that counts can be counted, & not everything that can be counts. #sunchat

TamarraLC Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

Yes but that means the school has to completely trust the Ts. I don't thing many schools do. #sunchat

In reply to @JesiCygan

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

A renewed sense of trust between educators and stakeholders would allow us to have a productive conversation around testing. 🤓#sunchat

EagleCoachRyan Dec 11 @ 9:48 AM EST

I have wondered this same thing! I feel college bound kids must have that skill #sunchat

In reply to @kwillmann

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:49 AM EST

It's huge problem in education that we just don't talk about, deal with enough. We have racist system. #sunchat

In reply to @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:49 AM EST

It's that mutual interdependence we were discussing yesterday rearing its head again.#sunchat

In reply to @brianrozinsky

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:49 AM EST

how do we fix tests before, or even at the same time as, the racist system? What's driving which? #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @tiffanytruitt

EagleCoachRyan Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

🙌🏻#sunchat

In reply to @danvkoch

JennBinis Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

same holds for teacher-created tests - which students see more frequently. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

Honestly, I don't know. We have to root out racism first, I think, or everything we do is tainted. #sunchat

In reply to @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

poida Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

🙌 Great connecting today with the awesome #sunchat edu community ..... PLN Personification PLUS! ✔ https://t.co/bvkFDcomii

polonerd Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

Thanks for a great morning of getting me fired up. #sunchat Gotta run.

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:51 AM EST

I ♡ analogies. This is where grades increasingly strike me as too reductive for meaningful reviews. Feedback elaborates. #sunchat

In reply to @kwillmann

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:51 AM EST

Can't argue that. I've seen it myself. #sunchat

In reply to @JennBinis, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

JennBinis Dec 11 @ 9:51 AM EST

the difference is large-scale tests are more transparent and explicitly designed. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:51 AM EST

hugely diverse group from poorest to richest districts. Sat on it three times. Worked in title 1 for 10 years. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:52 AM EST

Considering a former College Board employee had FBI raid his house after whistleblowing...#sunchat

In reply to @JennBinis, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:52 AM EST

I don't believe there's an educator alive who wants to be absolved of their responsibility for student learning. No doubt about it. #sunchat

MrDataGuy Dec 11 @ 9:52 AM EST

@brianrozinsky They do not ensure anything. We can easily ID schools/ kids who struggle. SD Testing changed little #sunchat

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EagleCoachRyan Dec 11 @ 9:52 AM EST

Fun popping into #sunchat for the first time. Interesting to see all the views. Will join back again as a non-creeper and try to contribute

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:52 AM EST

I'm glad that's true in your state, then. Trust me, it isn't true in all states, and it isn't true for many tests. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:53 AM EST

so we're talking about the contemporary version of standardized tests. Ok. And yes, worth more discussion. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:53 AM EST

Question: were people allowed to question items, or were some at table silenced if they questioned too much? #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:53 AM EST

I can't speak to that. I can only speak to what goes on in creating state tests in VA #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @JennBinis, @JeremyDBond

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:53 AM EST

Educators care. They are dedicated, committed folks who signed up to teach because they want to make a difference. #sunchat

brianrozinsky Dec 11 @ 9:54 AM EST

If I extend this thinking then test-makers like Pearson & I have interdependence to sort out better than status quo. #sunchat

In reply to @latoyadixon5

Celia_Dumbra Dec 11 @ 9:54 AM EST

#sunchat, #TxEduchat, @RiderSchoolofEd @RutgersAltRoute It’s a great day when you can connect to learn and be inspired!

poida Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

🙌 Great connecting today with the awesome #sunchat edu community ..... PLN Personification PLUS! ✔ https://t.co/bvkFDcomii

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:54 AM EST

I am the FIRST person to call out a question, and they ALWAYS call me back #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @JennBinis, @JeremyDBond

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:55 AM EST

That was our job! Question by question. Pearson wasn't allowed to say anything. We decided which questions passed on #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:55 AM EST

That's it. Where's the chat to focus on those? Classroom tests drive students' school experience, good and bad, more than anything. #sunchat

JennBinis Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST

same holds for teacher-created tests - which students see more frequently. #sunchat
In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

dianna_smith15 Dec 11 @ 9:55 AM EST

I think I popped in too late!! #sunchat

EagleCoachRyan Dec 11 @ 9:52 AM EST

Fun popping into #sunchat for the first time. Interesting to see all the views. Will join back again as a non-creeper and try to contribute

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:55 AM EST

Here's what I was referring to: https://t.co/chhdaAafD7 #sunchat

In reply to @JennBinis, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:55 AM EST

Here's what I was referring to: https://t.co/6AgYbB37Em #sunchat

In reply to @JennBinis, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:56 AM EST

I'm seriously just curious. Were black/brown people talked over, or were they given full rein to question, rewrite? #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

PrincipalPaul Dec 11 @ 9:56 AM EST

It's tempting to get quiet this time of year. Don't. Connect, share, celebrate, & watch your school's culture LAUNCH! #sunchat #leadupchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:58 AM EST

No. This was a room full of professionals. I wouldn't take part in a committee that would allow that. Come on. #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

EagleCoachRyan Dec 11 @ 9:58 AM EST

focus on that you actually popped in, not the timing! #sunchat 😹

In reply to @dianna_smith15

HillMrispo Dec 11 @ 9:58 AM EST

#sunchat Tests can be an indicator of what they know, but the best T's care about how they are doing in life!!

logan_whaley2 Dec 11 @ 9:58 AM EST

Standardized tests need to become more incentivized, especially in middle school's. Our students need to understand the purpose. #sunchat

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:58 AM EST

No, this was review of standardized test, but VA has slowly been moving many of their test to PBLs. #sunchat

In reply to @kwillmann, @CarinaHilbert

CarinaHilbert Dec 11 @ 9:58 AM EST

I have seen it happen in rooms of professionals, though, so that's why I wondered. It's easy to not see happening. #sunchat

In reply to @tiffanytruitt

kwillmann Dec 11 @ 9:59 AM EST

What a way to spend a Sunday morning. Much better than cleaning the kitchen. I'll be back! Lots to think about! Much more to do!#sunchat

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:59 AM EST

And are parents encouraged to challenge teachers on these as much as they are to opt out of standardized tests to assess schools? #sunchat

JeremyDBond Dec 11 @ 9:55 AM EST
That's it. Where's the chat to focus on those? Classroom tests drive students' school experience, good and bad, more than anything. #sunchat
- JennBinis Dec 11 @ 9:50 AM EST
  
  same holds for teacher-created tests - which students see more frequently. #sunchat
  In reply to @CarinaHilbert, @JeremyDBond, @tiffanytruitt

tiffanytruitt Dec 11 @ 9:59 AM EST

have you sat on an item analysis committee with a state agency before? #sunchat

In reply to @CarinaHilbert

latoyadixon5 Dec 11 @ 9:59 AM EST

Thanks for a great chat! To educators everywhere, THANK YOU! You matter and your work is important to the futures of many! #sunchat