#Kinderchat Archive
#Kinderchat, glue, glitter, gogurt, bringing daily joy to twitter. Find us Mondays, 9 pm EST and 8:30PM London time when we talk all things Early Years!
Monday March 20, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Come out, come out wherever you are! It's
#kinderchat
time! Say hi, where you are & how many days until/left in/since spring break.
LongyHan
Mar 20 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Share empathy+cultural fun with your students! Buy G&G picture books on Scholastic
https://t.co/jO2UUW8NuM
#colchat
#iechat
#kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Christine in Southern Alberta. 402 days until Spring Break!!
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@KeeneeLou
FOUR HUNDRED AND TWO? I am so confused...
#Kinderchat
In reply to @KeeneeLou, @KeeneeLou
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Sally from Minnesota. One week post-spring break.
#kinderchat
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hey everyone! I am super excited to chat tonight. I am currently in Wyoming and today was my first day back.
#Kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Amy here, moderating from Calgary. 3 days w/kids, 1 day PD before spring break.
#Kinderchat
KC_SEASportsFan
Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Aspiring K Teacher, Brett, Lamar, Mo.
#KinderChat
Evening!
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Nah, just kidding around. We are done the day before Good Friday. But April seems far away!
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Central IL, first day of spring break today! ahhhh
#Kinderchat
jenrichwildcat
Mar 20 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jennifer from Milan Mo. I think around 16 days.
#kinderchat
kinderkfoley
Mar 20 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Karen from WA. First day of spring and spring break!
#Kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Ok, phew! I was worried about you! My 4 more days seems plenty long, though - I get it!
#kinderchat
In reply to @KeeneeLou
KinderChat123
Mar 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Tonight, we are talking about school entry age, based on this article:
https://t.co/1TRJ3tPZr1
#kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Nice to have you! Don't forget the
#kinderchat
hashtag on your tweets!
In reply to @mr_swingle
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Carolyn from NJ, 17 days
#kinderchat
mr_swingle
Mar 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I'm trying to do too much at 1 time! LOL
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
mcdonaldrachael
Mar 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
#Kinderchat
it's been a long time. I'm checking in and doing office work....
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi!!!
#kinderchat
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Kathleen from Edmonton! I am on maternity leave and have no concept of time. All the days are my "spring break".
#kinderchat
sxwiley
Mar 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Brick by Brick: The Exile of Play
https://t.co/Z9En7VOTk0
#kinderchat
#ece
#teachpreschool
amycoyote
Mar 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi from snowy Vermont!
#kinderchat
SmokingTNC
Mar 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Super excited to watch
#kinderchat
and learn what educators need in their arsenal of early smoking prevention resources.
mcdonaldrachael
Mar 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
hola hola!
#kinderchat
In reply to @KeeneeLou
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@SmokingTNC
Tks for joining. Our topic tonight is school entry age.
#Kinderchat
In reply to @SmokingTNC, @SmokingTNC
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@mcdonaldrachael
Yay! So nice to have you here!
#Kinderchat
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael, @KeeneeLou, @mcdonaldrachael
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
I'm on break this week so in and out tonight! Wanted to say hi though!
#KInderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
tiegradloeppky
Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Sorry I can't make it tonight,
#kinderchat
. I'm at the BCTF AGM and we are on dinner break so it's time for a chill and food.Happy chatting!
mcdonaldrachael
Mar 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
missing you all
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl, @KeeneeLou
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q1: Share your data points! What is the age cutoff for your kindergarten students? Do you think it is appropriate?
#kinderchat
AssignmentHelpN
Mar 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#coascd
#eduality
#EdVoice
#ellchat
#iechat
#kinderchat
10 Things you Need to Spring Clean Right Now
https://t.co/7AJrA5H3xE
massignmenthelp
Mar 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#coascd
#eduality
#EdVoice
#ellchat
#iechat
#kinderchat
5 Signs Indicate that you Need to Hire Online Math Tutor
https://t.co/KM38333Kxz
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Courtney Wa K T
#Kinderchat
just finished report cards!!!
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Our Ks must be 5 by Dec 31. Just adjusted from 5 by March 1. MUCH BETTER!
#Kinderchat
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
How are you Racheal?!
#Kinderchat
There's snow still on the ground here- melting though! :)
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Must be 5 by December 31 of the school year. Used to March 1. I vote for older.
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
Prepteacheraps
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@AldergrovePS
@YRDSBEarlyYears
@YRDSB
@YRDSBGetOut
#Kinderchat
being
#palaeontologists
creating dinosaur habitats highly engaged learners
mcdonaldrachael
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
missing the snow (like seriously)
#Kinderchat
In reply to @hechternacht
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Missing the beach!
#kinderchat
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael, @hechternacht
katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Hi there, Kathryn from Southern California. First time participant
#Kinderchat
14 school days left til spring break!
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
We are earlier here- 5 by September 1
#Kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: October 1st, but I feel it should be more like June 1st
#kinderchat
jenrichwildcat
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 Must be 5 by Aug. 1
#kinderchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Our Ks must be 5 by March 31st of the year they are in K. It's too late.
#kinderchat
mcdonaldrachael
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
it's been rainy here
#kinderchat
In reply to @KeeneeLou, @hechternacht
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Well we didn't have much this winter so you would be disappointed!! One last blast here thankfully!
#Kinderchat
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MmeKathleen
That was what's it was in Calgary back in the day. Not sure now.
#kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: 5 years by September 1st. This is appropriate for the majority of Ss if they have had quality preschool experience.
#kinderchat
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Wyoming does not have mandatory kindergarten but the cut off for first grade is 6 by September 9th.
#Kinderchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Our Ks must be 5 by March 1st the year they are in K. It's too late.
#kinderchat
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I have three weeks until spring break!!
#Kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
It was sunny here but -7C. Too cold for the beach.
#kinderchat
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael, @hechternacht
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I hope the province goes through with it!
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1) 5 yrs by aug 31st. A little Youngblood
#Kinderchat
mcdonaldrachael
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
In Jamaica our Ks turn 5 by Dec 31st
#Kinderchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Our Ks must be 5 by March 1st the year they are in K. It's too late.
#kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@KeeneeLou
@MmeKathleen
It is still Mar 1 for Calgary public & catholic.
#Kinderchat
In reply to @KeeneeLou, @MmeKathleen, @KeeneeLou, @MmeKathleen
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
IL cutoff is Sept 1. School starts mid-August. Rather it was July 1st.
#kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
They start kindergarten at age 4?!
#kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
We start right at the beginning of September.
#kinderchat
In reply to @MTL_PWwileyk
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
This time of year there's at least one teacher on spring break from about end of Feb thru the start of May! :)
#wonky
#kinderchat
In reply to @St006C
dubioseducator
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Hi y'all. Visiting grandkids in Dallas. Last night so cuddling with the younger two at their bedtime
#kinderchat
My daughter w/2/3 yr olds
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
5 by March is so late
#kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@teachermeg
They do. But remember - our K expectations do NOT include reading!
#Kinderchat
In reply to @teachermeg, @MmeKathleen, @teachermeg
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1) 5 by aug 31st. A little young
#Kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@fsd38
changed this about 5 years ago too. Much better than March!
#kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen, @happycampergirl, @fsd38
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
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@teachermeg
Some of my Ks stay 4 for 6 months of the school year! It needs to change.
#kinderchat
In reply to @teachermeg
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
RT
@mcdonaldrachael
In Jamaica our Ks turn 5 by Dec 31st
#Kinderchat
https://t.co/PPkQAfpubV
In reply to @mcdonaldrachael
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Our Ks must be 5 by March 1st the year they are in K. It's too late.
#kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Same here!
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl, @teachermeg, @MmeKathleen
hechternacht
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:16 PM EDT
How much snow up there?!
#Kinderchat
Love your job description too!
In reply to @amycoyote
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:17 PM EDT
I think it should be Oct 1. In Chicago we start after Labor Day and I end up with kids in the preschool who are 5 entire year.
#Kinderchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
IL cutoff is Sept 1. School starts mid-August. Rather it was July 1st.
#kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:17 PM EDT
I say, have you checked out our fab preschool next door?!
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl, @MmeKathleen
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Really, we should be grouping students based on ability & interests, and not age. THERE, I SAID IT.
#kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
That's true. Your kindergarten is much more developmentally appropriate.
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl, @MmeKathleen
spiraledu
Mar 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Its By the first day or school (mid August) in Alaska. But it's not mandatory so some parents wait or try early
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I agree! I think age needs to be considered, but definitely more flexible grouping would be better.
#kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
This sounds like the "continuous progress" initiative I was involved with back in the 90s.
#ungraded
#kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q2: In 140 characters, what was your takeaway from the article?
#kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Well obviously. But that just makes too much sense.
#Kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1: At my small private school: age 5 by Sept 1. We have preschool and some kids aren't quite ready even if they are old enough
#kinderchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#kinderchat
No need to push kids into academic setting too soon.
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I agree, age is just a number. It matters for some & doesn't for others. School exposure, behavior & abilities all factor in
#Kinderchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Really, we should be grouping students based on ability & interests, and not age. THERE, I SAID IT.
#kinderchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: I was happy some researchers FINALLY drew some conclusions based on student mental health rather than test scores.
#kinderchat
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I couldn't agree more! Grouping children by age makes education similar to that of an assembly line.
#Kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 Later start promotes positive self control, attention, and imaginative play
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Was continuous progress a positive initiative? were Ss successful?
#kinderchat
In reply to @KeeneeLou
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
It was a wonderful initiative that got lost in gov't bureaucracy. But I still have its philosophy in my heart
#kinderchat
In reply to @sallyhockinson
spiraledu
Mar 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
When I taught PK w/ class of 4 year olds, they were already at so many different levels. Should group by ability
#kinderchat
In reply to @ryleigh_kobbe
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2) Article addresses other factors beyond age to child success in school
#Kinderchat
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: I was excited that age guidelines were finally being looked at through something other than test scores.
#kinderchat
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Yep.
#kinderchat
#wateachlead
#teacherfriends
#mtedchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Really, we should be grouping students based on ability & interests, and not age. THERE, I SAID IT.
#kinderchat
SmokingTNC
Mar 20 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: one year delay had the amazing result of lowering hyperactivity by 73% . That's fascinating !
#Kinderchat
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2 Later start promotes self control & maturity, but also important to address what goes on during K. Do you learn through play?
#kinderchat
dearmshashim
Mar 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Kinder continues identity study by building on a blank world map and comparing it with a globe
#kinderchat
#inquiry
#harlem
@samantha_nadal
mr_swingle
Mar 20 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: Red shirting can have a huge impact due to factors that aren't typically considered! The self control piece was huge!
#Kinderchat
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Yes. And what about retention? Pros/Cons? Appropriate?
#Kinderchat
mr_swingle
Mar 20 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: Red shirting can have a huge impact due to factors that aren't typically considered! The self control piece was huge!
#Kinderchat
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 I think an important point is Ss must have access to quality ECE experiences to benefit from a delayed start.
#kinderchat
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 Later start has it's advantages, but also address the content being addressed in Kindergarten...Learning through play
#kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q3: How would you define "formal schooling?" Where you teach, does kindergarten fit into that definition?
#kinderchat
mr_swingle
Mar 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Great question! This is something I have been considering a lot recently.
#kinderchat
In reply to @St006C
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
MANY factors contribute in answering if retention is appropriate.
#kinderchat
In reply to @St006C
go2Science
Mar 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
New art for the website!
@mrdearybury1
@msoskil
@jmattmiller
@EduCaptAmerica
@mrs_smoke
@KarinaBailey
#kinderchat
#1stchat
#2ndchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 - Yes, kinder is the beginning of formal education
#Kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 Hmm. Formal schooling has a formal curriculum so my K fits under "formal"
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
EnyaChen9
Mar 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@Tate
@aussieEDchat
@HistoryExtra
#artgallery
#EDN113
#Kinderchat
π activity 4
In reply to @Tate, @aussieEDchat, @HistoryExtra
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
I teach with
@mr_swingle
We retain Ss each year due to readiness & maturity if it is what the Ss need to be successful
#kinderchat
In reply to @St006C, @mr_swingle
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
The more I read rsrch about school entry age, the more I interpret formal school as "reading instruction."
#Kinderchat
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Wow, you always make me think. I love that.
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I think retention is related, but has different things to consider. We can pencil it in for its own chat!
#Kinderchat
katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:34 PM EDT
#kinderchat
In reply to @katnish16
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: Hmmm. Formal school is teacher led education in a classroom. I would say kindergarten is included.
#kinderchat
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3) Formal school is ECE...yes, kindergarten is most def included
#Kinderchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
We have phonics instruction. Reading comes naturally to most when they have a good phonics base.
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
mr_swingle
Mar 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
If there is no access to quality ECE does the 1st year of K count/replace?
#Kinderchat
In reply to @St006C
EnyaChen9
Mar 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@Tate
@aussieEDchat
@HistoryExtra
#artgallery
#EDN113
#kinderchat
Activity 4 π
In reply to @Tate, @aussieEDchat, @HistoryExtra
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
To me, formal schooling equals school that is compulsory. So kindergarten is included in that.
#kinderchat
katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Formal schooling= curriculum in place so yes, K included and in many places, preschool.
#kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
So formal schooling has more to do with it being required or not rather than what is being taught/how it is being taught.
#kinderchat
spiraledu
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
kg is only mandatory in 15 states. KG should be transitional year (used to school) w/ grade 1 being formal
#kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
So here in Alberta, K is not a mandated program but you must attend school by age 6
#kinderchat
In reply to @teachermeg
Jumangi13
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Joining late...Jay from CT...5 by January 1st, and we are formal schooling in kindergarten
#Kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
When you look at the ACTUAL skills being measured, formal school = reading expected.
#Kinderchat
MTL_PWwileyk
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q3 Formal schooling can be defined differently but I think anything in a "school" scenario fits, typically seen w/ preschool & K
#kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@teachermeg
This is a complicated question.... ;-)
#Kinderchat
In reply to @teachermeg, @teachermeg
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 Our K is a bridge from ECE to 1st grade High academic expectations with inquiry based teaching & learner centered philosophy
#kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
As are all the questions worth asking.
#Kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
#kinderchat
I consider K a year to learn how to be a student.
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:38 PM EDT
In my state, a Ss does not have to be enrolled in school until 8 yrs old
#wateachlead
#kinderchat
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:39 PM EDT
If they are 8 & never attended school, which grade do they begin?
#kinderchat
In reply to @St006C
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q4: The article describes longterm increased ADHD diagnosis for young Ks. What questions does this raise re: diagnostic process?
#kinderchat
katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
I like that. I often say my job as a K teacher is to make sure kids enjoy school. The rest will come.
#kinderchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
#kinderchat
I consider K a year to learn how to be a student.
PrimaryIdeas
Mar 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
New blog post, "The Story of the Rugby Matchβ:
https://t.co/MGzdpestNo
#edchat
#kinderchat
#elemchat
@USARugby
@RugbyCanada
@EnglandTouch
In reply to @USARugby, @RugbyCanada, @EnglandTouch
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4) I think there may be a correlation btween push for early entry and increase in ADHD diagnosis
#Kinderchat
MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Here's some "formal schooling" - learning to move limbs. π
#kinderchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4 Makes me wonder..what came first? the ADHD or the young school entry?
#Kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4 Oh so many questions. ADHD or still learning self regulation skills? ADHD or not developmentally appropriate expectations?
#kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q4: Are we pushing for kids to be diagnosed, when all they are doing is ACTING THEIR AGE?
#Kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
oh my goodness. Could he be any cuter?!
#Kinderchat
In reply to @MmeKathleen
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:43 PM EDT
My OT friend often says: ALL toddlers would qualify for ADHD, ODD, DCD diagnoses.
#Kinderchat
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 Can symptoms of ADHD be developmentally appropriate? How many Ss have an unnecessary diagnosis? Will Ss "grow out of" ADHD?
#kinderchat
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q4: The article describes longterm increased ADHD diagnosis for young Ks. What questions does this raise re: diagnostic process?
#kinderchat
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: ADHD or unrealistic expectations from school/home? ADHD or needing sensory experiences?
#kinderchat
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I may have referred to Kindergarten as the "land of undiagnosed everything" :)
#Kinderchat
In reply to @happycampergirl
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I think wiggling and blurting are dev approp but a challenge in the formal sch setting
#Kinderchat
In reply to @sallyhockinson
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I also question these things. Hard to know if students are simply acting their age or are truly ADHD.
#kinderchat
In reply to @teachermeg
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I think it can come down to if it is difficult for a child to use self control or IMPOSSIBLE
#kinderchat
In reply to @St006C
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
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True ADHD is different from normal five year old behavior.
happycampergirl
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Mar 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@teachermeg
OMG, I am increasingly on the SENSORY EXPERIENCES soapbox. KIDS NEED MESSY STICKY GOOEY PRICKLY STINKY NOISY...
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teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4: ADHD or not enough outdoor/gross motor play? ADHD or topics at school boring? ADHD or too much sitting expected?
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KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
For most, but I have had a few Ss who HATED anything like what you list!
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happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@KeeneeLou
Right, but is that lack of exposure? How can we build their tolerance?
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In reply to @KeeneeLou, @teachermeg, @KeeneeLou
katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I've often had parents concerned about their child's behavior (are they ADHD??) and I reassure that it's typical
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In reply to @ljschaap1
ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4: I believe that children simply acting their age is becoming a common cause of ADHD diagnosis.
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happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
hmmm... this may be a whole topic unto itself...
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KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
One little guy just had to have the gift of time & exposure & gentle support- tried a few things!
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In reply to @happycampergirl, @teachermeg
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Then what does this say about school expectations?
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sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4 How are schools addressing Ss' mental health needs? Regardless of a diagnosis, what interventions benefit ALL Ss?
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teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:48 PM EDT
It could. Sensory experiences & sensory processing have been in my mind all year in the preschool.
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KC_SEASportsFan
Mar 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
I was one of those SS. Also one of those students who avoided risk taking whenever I possibly could ππππππ
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KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
For most, but I have had a few Ss who HATED anything like what you list!
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In reply to @happycampergirl, @teachermeg
St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
I wanted to say "challenge w/ academic expectations" in sch setting
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KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
I vote yes. I'd love to hear about other experiences and ideas esp for autistic peeps
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happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q5: Bottom line - does this mean kids need to wait to start K, or that we need to fix KG so it is not "formal" school? How?
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katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
My pediatrician dad says ADHD is both the most overdiagnosed and underdiagnosed thing. Possibly because of misconceptions?
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happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Just plugged "sensory experiences" into April 24 chat re: classroom materials. Want to help mod?
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In reply to @teachermeg, @KeeneeLou
ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
See it, feel it, touch it, smell it, hear it, (taste it if appropriate)=learn it!
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In reply to @teachermeg, @happycampergirl, @KeeneeLou
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Yep! That's the disconnect! Expectations not based on what we know about child development.
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In reply to @St006C, @sallyhockinson
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 Both! Slightly older children in DAP K classrooms with opportunities for authentic,meaningful, activities
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In reply to @happycampergirl
sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
I ask this question everyday. If 18/21 Ss can meet the expectations, should we lower them for the final 3?
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In reply to @teachermeg, @St006C
KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
I'm away in Vancouver that night. Boo.
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In reply to @happycampergirl, @teachermeg
SmokingTNC
Mar 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5: trick question: we have to be more inclusive of the decision to start school. Consider the entire child age + maturity.
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teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Sure. I wonder if
@jodialtringer
will be around that day. Jodi is always great for sensory chats.
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In reply to @happycampergirl, @KeeneeLou, @jodialtringer
Jumangi13
Mar 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
If some wait, they don't go to school at all...I'd rather take them in and give a prek experience...hard to do with expectations
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St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5) (2/2) ...will they b ready for rigor of 1st grade.
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St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5) (1/2)I think we need to bring back more play into K...but also struggle w/ exectations in 1st. If play is primary method of learning...
SmokingTNC
Mar 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
totally agree! The answer is both!
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MmeKathleen
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5: Unfortunately it's easier for parents to make the decision rather than cross your fingers for change in government programs.
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ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q5 Depends on the kid!
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ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5: I would say we should keep the K age limit close to 5 and make K non-formal school.
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ryleigh_kobbe
Mar 20 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5 cont.: Give students the opportunity to learn through play while adjusting to the formal school setting.
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sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5 It must always be a balance of the present needs of the child & the future demands on the child.
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KinderChat123
Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Over and out, friends! Remember no chat next week - it is official
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spring break!
happycampergirl
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Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Over and out, friends! Remember no chat next week - it is official
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spring break!
happycampergirl
- Moderator
Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Kids don't learn to sit still by sitting still. They learn to sit still by MOVING & PLAYING
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katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A5: If kids wait, they should get PreK. K needs to be prep for 1st but still with a balance of play and academics
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St006C
Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
and often putting Ss into K is financial...P must work and school is where Ss will b cared for
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teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
This is struggle here. If parents choose to delay K entry in Chicago they will be put in 1st the next year/skip K.
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KeeneeLou
Mar 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thanks for all the great fun! Keep playing! Keep risk taking!
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Jumangi13
Mar 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
When in doubt, keep them out, but send them to a quality play based prek program, please
#inaperfectworld
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mr_swingle
Mar 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I feel like the play needs to support the prep for the rigor. Teach the social/metal health side through play.
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teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Shout it out loud.
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happycampergirl
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Mar 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Kids don't learn to sit still by sitting still. They learn to sit still by MOVING & PLAYING
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katnish16
Mar 20 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Jumangi13
Mar 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
When in doubt, keep them out, but send them to a quality play based prek program, please
#inaperfectworld
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sallyhockinson
Mar 20 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Don't forget kids love to learn! I have Ss rip books out of my hands when they discover they can read! Formal school can be fun
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des_maine
Mar 20 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Late to the chat... My name is India and I'm from Texas! Just following tonight! π
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ljschaap1
Mar 20 @ 9:58 PM EDT
May make this my new motto!
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In reply to @Jumangi13
teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:58 PM EDT
If they go to private school (lots of money) they can delay K, not in public school system.
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teachermeg
Mar 20 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Have a wonderful evening!
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