#ATchat Archive

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Wednesday November 2, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to the 11/2/2016 #Atchat.We are excited to try something new: an AT Case study led by @rziolkowski Let us know your thoughts.
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    #atchat Hi I’m Ruth Ziolkowski, President of Don Johnston.Full disclosure I will be using data from a tool we sell call uPAR. Glad to b here
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    So great to have you lead us tonight @rziolkowski #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    #atchat It could be a quite night on Atchat. Cubbies are about to make history! Go cubbies!
  • wernedat Nov 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    excited for this - as a district using uPAR and SNR this year, and as a case study nerd #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    #atchat Do you work with students who are 2 or more grade levels behind in reading. If so, this case study is for you!
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Looking forward to learning more tonight. I really liked uPAR when I tried it #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Thanks for being innovators and trying something new. This could flop but what the heck-if we don’t try we won’t know #atchat
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Leslie from LI, NY #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I think most of us are rooting for the Cubs tonight @rziolkowski. #Gocubs #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hey now #atchat Joining from #patinsicam w @possbeth @KellyFonner @SMarfilius
    In reply to @possbeth, @KellyFonner, @SMarfilius
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Beth from Maryland, but tweeting from Indianapolis and #patinsicam tonight #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    #atchat Cubbies 1-0 Can you tell I'm from Chicago. Amazing 1st hitter Home Run
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    @bcdtech @wernedat @possbeth Hi all! Great to see you tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara, @bcdtech, @wernedat, @possbeth
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    #atchat We have permission from this child’s parent to share with you. We are very fortunate to have this opportunity! Amazing Ss and T
  • KaraGuiff Nov 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Me too! Kara from Indiana. #atchat #patinsicam
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    #atchat Here is reading intervention data from a 3rd grade student, a triplet.
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    me three! great day at #patinsicam #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include #atchat hashtag
  • EGraniero Nov 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Sorry joining late.. Emily Graniero from CT #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    What were the interventions the teachers were using with this S? #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    #atchat Q1: Based on this data, what types of support would a student like this get in your district?
  • KellyFonner Nov 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    #atchat Kelly F here sitting w/ @mmatp & @possbeth & @SMarfilius while at #patinsicam
    In reply to @mmatp, @possbeth, @SMarfilius
  • massignmenthelp Nov 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    How to Combat Plagiarism in Class https://t.co/6UNOBWDAE2 #atchat #AVIDchat #csk8 #ctedlead #currichat #EdBeat #edubkcl #2ndchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Be sure to look at GE and IRL Grade level and Instructional Reading Levels. Remember this is a 3rd grader. #atchat
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1 IEP plan with pullout sped for reading... or Tier 3 intervention or Title 1 reading. those are the choices for us #atchat
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: direct instructional interventions and I would be giving the PAR to if/which reading accommodation would be appropriate #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    What's going on there? #ATchat
    In reply to @KellyFonner, @mmatp, @possbeth, @SMarfilius
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    #atchat Thanks Maureen. Are these what other districts provide?
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 - Text to speech with access to grade level content. Need to close the potential vocab gaps. #ATchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    #atchat that is because you are a AT leader of the future ;) Data driven is part of your toolbox!
    In reply to @darlaashton
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    the PATINS conference--great time with awesome Indiana educators #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @KellyFonner, @mmatp, @SMarfilius
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    In the classroom? Pullout? With an aide? Her levels were really low #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    #atchat If we look at your response & Maureens I see a lot of human supports, and intervention often pulled out.
    In reply to @darlaashton
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    depends upon what she needs access to. In the classroom with an iPad. #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech
    • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
      In the classroom? Pullout? With an aide? Her levels were really low #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Definitely consider TTS. Some younger Ss have access 2 scanning pen if not ready for higher tech. Also direct rdng service provided #atchat
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    w/ that data we would be having talk immediately on grade level text being read out loud to give access to curriculum #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Love this! So she has good comprehension when read to. Needs Learning Ally, or TTS in the classroom #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    #atchat Q2
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      #atchatQ2: Here is additional data collected by Ss teacher. Based on this data from uPAR, what is your recommendation for this student?
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    #atchat I also see modified text. Heck we might even be symbolizing the text.
    In reply to @KarenJan, @bcdtech
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: human audio it is! #atchat
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    My only question with modified text/symbolized... who is providing this? #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    #atchat we can even quantify the difference accommodations make. At this point a Human Reader shows a 4 grade level difference!
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    @rziolkowski Do the percentages reflect accuracy rates? Just double checking! #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    #atchat So would you try to introduce TTS??
    In reply to @darlaashton
  • wernedat Nov 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2 with a jump in comprehension it's clear that some tts would benefit #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    But a human reader promotes dependence. Need to think independence and move to high quality TTS #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @bcdtech
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
      #atchat we can even quantify the difference accommodations make. At this point a Human Reader shows a 4 grade level difference!
      In reply to @bcdtech
  • proudone2 Nov 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Hi #atchat. Sorry to be late.
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    why symbolize text? Research doesn't support. Gear text to her level and illustration support #atchat https://t.co/HkJqMFqIN2
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    #atchat She has GREAT comprehension. She is ABOVE grade level. But the recommendation was pre-k text.
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • KaraGuiff Nov 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    also needs to become more able to perform with text reader - unfortunately In Indiana most must use text reader. #atchat
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    I interpreted human reader to natural human voice TTS- vs robotic machine voice #atchat- not an aide reading to her
    In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    yes I would try introducing TTS also. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @darlaashton
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    yes i would WITH the understanding that some sort of direct instruction for intervention is still needed. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    #atchat I agree but if we did a 2 week trial, we might not see results. Plus the Ss might say they like human
    In reply to @KarenJan, @bcdtech
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    PreK text would be awful for her.... condescending #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    #atchat Agreed but when u get intervention recommendation of Pre-K text there is a high possibility of this or really boring text
    In reply to @possbeth
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    #atchat agreed-this is what people are so afraid of that we will stop intervention.
    In reply to @darlaashton
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    If the need for accommodation is there then wouldn't T or service prov creates the modified work? #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KarenJan, @bcdtech
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Q3: #atchat Why does the uPAR data provide such a different perspective than the Intervention Data?
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    #atchat behavior problems? This child was starting to withdraw. Self confidence going down the drain.
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    lol i hear/see opposite. "can some tech fix this?" tech will never replace a good teacher with good intervention. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    The who does the extra work piece is always an issue. T has no time. Para is with student, etc. #atchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara, @rziolkowski, @KarenJan
  • wernedat Nov 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    I think there is a time and place for BOTH to be of benefit for the Ss #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski, @bcdtech
  • KaraGuiff Nov 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A3How student can show what she knows vs just what she knows with no AT #atchat
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
      Q3: #atchat Why does the uPAR data provide such a different perspective than the Intervention Data?
  • JudithSchoonov1 Nov 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    re-wordify, text summaries with scaffolded vocabulary & picture support? #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @possbeth
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Q3: i love that it shows what a S can do with grade level text for comp when fluency barrier is not an issue #atchat
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Completely agree! A common misconception. There has to be a combination of supports in place for this S. #atchat
    In reply to @darlaashton, @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    #atchat I totally agree-we need to see AT as all day long intervention!
    In reply to @wernedat, @KarenJan, @bcdtech
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Measures comprehension, not decoding. Depends on what you are trying to quantify. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    #atchat I agree and I think it is a breakdown with Intervention alone. We miss what the students CAN do and lower expectations.
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    We needs Accommodation + Remediation, especially at the 3rd grade level. #ATchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    #atchat why picture support, text summaries-she can comprehend at 5th grade level???
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @possbeth
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    I know when I did a uPAR trial and saw that a Ss who read below grade level (6th) comprehended at 9th or 10th- stunned. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • JudithSchoonov1 Nov 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    I do like TTS with text highlighted as read. Research supports. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    #atchat I agree but until uPAR data there was no accommodation. Intervention was the only focus.
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    TTS is ideal (pref w/ human voice). Also offer access to scanning pen. She can scan over words she is less familiar w/ #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    #atchat and how did this change the plan for this student?
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    also finding PAR helpful for Ts who THINK there is fluency issue and not comp. Intervention needed. Here's data to prove. #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    We advocated for accommodation. Ts see need with the data. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
      #atchat I agree but until uPAR data there was no accommodation. Intervention was the only focus.
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    #atchat also cool is you can quantify the impact of the AT for this student! We see it but sometimes others don't including Ss
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    It was in the spring... so honestly- not much last year. I passed along info to Jr High and talked with T. Hoping... #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • KellyFonner Nov 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #atchat In class by cl basis-review of what reading mats T is using. what we know is that up to 75% of mats r non-text book They r T created
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    But realistically, I see it as more of a UDL issue. 85% of my students benefited by some audio support. Gve it to all #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Q4:More data-What does this data tell you? What changed from Nov-April #atchat
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    For 3rd grader there still needs to be interventions, ALONG with accommodations/AT Don't give up on developing decoding that young #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    #atchat so for students like will they lower the readability to "help" the students?
    In reply to @KellyFonner
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Keep the convo going. Join our #ATchat Facebook group. https://t.co/Ab65dJGMNY
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Overall comprehension- Did the Ss have more exposure and practice with text reader/ takes some getting used to #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4 @rziolkowski Woohoo! she benefitted from TTS! - Empowered and more independent #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4: the more you use needed accommodations the more you might benefit from them. getting comfortable with the tool. #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    #atchat I agree but why do we need keep saying this. Why do Ss get 1 or the other?
    In reply to @possbeth
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    we would still would be using leveled text--just not textbooks #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KellyFonner
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4: Obvious growth in comprehension skills. Can assume direct services were in place and TTS w/ human voice. #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    #atchat Yes, she was using Text reader more than read aloud. Mom said she doesn't read to her any more. Initial data was 20m/day
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    I would hope that it is not one or the other! Tools and high quality instruction go hand in hand #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    #atchat at what grade level? preK as intervention recommends or 5th grade as uPAR shows?
    In reply to @possbeth, @KellyFonner
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #atchat What is interesting to me is so many do trials of AT without building skill in TTS. For some TTS is an aquired skill.
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I completely agree! Difficult to reach the S s needs with one intervention in place #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    @rziolkowski @possbeth @KellyFonner Explicit mulitsensory reading instruction. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @possbeth, @KellyFonner
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
      #atchat at what grade level? preK as intervention recommends or 5th grade as uPAR shows?
      In reply to @possbeth, @KellyFonner
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I'm not a reading teacher, but I would hope there would be a happy medium--remediation/instruction lower #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KellyFonner
  • KaraGuiff Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: more practice with TTS payed off, hope she can use on state assessment(s) Hope DOE panel at #patinsicam addresses this #atchat
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    preK text for intervention instruction and TTS w grade level text for rest? #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @possbeth, @KellyFonner
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #atchat I agree but don't you see more of the former not the later when the only data is intervention data?
    In reply to @possbeth
  • KellyFonner Nov 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    #atchat the thing we have 2 watch is that teams aren't using uPAR data 2 withhold possible interventions
    In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Absolutely. It takes time to become proficient in so many things in life....so why would AT be any different. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    and content based texts (science, ss, etc) at the higher level with TTS/other supports #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KellyFonner
  • Ronbrogers Nov 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Countdown begins for the #udlchat @cnicolemorris @coy_kimberly @mrskreger @cybraryman1 @cindyccm @itsabouttimeedu @chrissiebutler #atchat
    In reply to @cnicolemorris, @coy_kimberly, @MrsKreger, @cybraryman1, @cindyccm, @ItsAboutTimeEDU, @chrissiebutler
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    this is why AT evals sometime bother me. Takes time for Ss to figure out which tool/TTS/etc. is right fit for them. #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    #atchat Does anyone know the average time to acquire TTS? That is what should drive our Trial durations!
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    I'm seeing more teams willing to combine both accommodation and remediation simultaneously. #ATchat @possbeth
    In reply to @possbeth
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
      #atchat I agree but don't you see more of the former not the later when the only data is intervention data?
      In reply to @possbeth
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q5 How can data driven decision making support systemic changes #atchat
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Seems like it would be pretty varied. #atchat.
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @lrdichiara
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    #atchat without data like uPar you are seeing this?
    In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Agree, at elementary level, Ss need access to high quality reading instruction. Are you seeing they aren't getting it? #ATchat
    • KellyFonner Nov 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      #atchat the thing we have 2 watch is that teams aren't using uPAR data 2 withhold possible interventions
      In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    It is critical to have open mindedness when talking interventions and accommodations. It takes a village sometimes #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Have you been able to implement that approach in your district? #ATchat
    In reply to @erinngilmore_
    • erinngilmore_ Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      rsrch based instruction paired withCore5 and Scilearn with repeated rdgs , voicedream, LA, short high inter.texts,TTS
      In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Going to #atia17 ? Join us for @edcampaccessint Fri night 1/20/17 https://t.co/DOerIDEEVJ #ATchat
    In reply to @edcampAccessInt
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    @rziolkowski We use the PAR but also have been able to influence the thinking of some educators. They see value. #ATchat
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      #atchat without data like uPar you are seeing this?
      In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    #atchat more data. This shows how much Text Reader was used in 1 month. Also showed student was consuming text from 4th-7th grade primarily
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Not sure how to pinpoint. Ss have different tech skills, age, tech exposure and impairments. #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @rziolkowski
  • wernedat Nov 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5 our schools r testing ANY Ss with/without IEPs w/uPAR opening up many convos re: what good diff instruction is #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    forgot to add #atchat to this
    • possbeth Nov 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
      if the TTS is provided in content outside reading instruction, ANY student should be able to access TTS as UDL
      In reply to @rziolkowski, @lrdichiara
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    What do you mean "acquire TTS?" Do you mean once the team agrees to it's use? #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @lrdichiara
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
      #atchat Does anyone know the average time to acquire TTS? That is what should drive our Trial durations!
      In reply to @lrdichiara
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5: Data can provided quantitative measures 2 know the effectiveness of the supports in place & make necessary changes (if required) #atchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    #atchat Exciting. Who is getting involved? How are convos changing?
    In reply to @wernedat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Important to remember self-selected reading is the best indicator of reading success no matter the student's skills (Krashen) #ATchat
  • BelugaCP Nov 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Had anyone tried using conductive paints or fabrics to make a communication device or just to make something assistive? #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    You are making a difference! #ATchat
    In reply to @erinngilmore_
    • erinngilmore_ Nov 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
      yes! especially for a student with this learning profile and data
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    #atchat This is HUGE for our field. In the past we had just feel good stories. Now we have some hard data to prove the need!
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    #atchat for this student reading went from worst subject to best. AT was the difference. Pre-K materials were killing esteem
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    One of the data points to consider is student's response to the technology. #ATchat
  • KellyFonner Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    #atchat A3 becz w/uPAR tech is implied part of data vs typical interventions T often don't know how 2 include tech in data
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Q7:How does this data affect student self-efficacy? #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    How did the team not see that????#ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
      #atchat for this student reading went from worst subject to best. AT was the difference. Pre-K materials were killing esteem
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    #atchat I agree-that is why we need fidelity of implementation data with our AT. We are having great data talks about usage now!
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KerriHslp Nov 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    @rziolkowski What type of tech hardware was this S using to access TTS tools? #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Really like this case study format! #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Seriously, how could the team believe that was appropriate intervention for the S.What was their data for intervention? #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
    • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
      How did the team not see that????#ATchat
      In reply to @rziolkowski
      • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
        #atchat for this student reading went from worst subject to best. AT was the difference. Pre-K materials were killing esteem
        In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    #atchat before upar data it was just more intense reading intervention.
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    #atchat chromebook and Snap & Read Universal
    In reply to @KerriHslp
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    #atchat So exciting other data is when Tt tested Without TTS, student had more remedial results than ever before. Went from 0-271 lexile
  • darlaashton Nov 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    we used to take data comparing when TTS was used and when it wasn't. It wasn't as organized, but we took it #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    uPar makes our jobs easier. Ts can't argue with what the data shows. It confirms what we know. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      #atchat before upar data it was just more intense reading intervention.
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    #atchat I also find AT experts changing recommendations. I think because we can start to see when we need to build skill too
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KellyFonner Nov 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    #atchat Most definitely! from Edyburn 's research we know that 3rdgrade is a critical yr. If Ss r not at gr levl, it taks majr interventions
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    #atchat I've been hearing huge difference between Intervention in K vs 1st takes double time to catch up.
    In reply to @KellyFonner, @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Bonus question. Does this data answer the old question..When do you start TTS? #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    What recommendations are they changing? #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
      #atchat I also find AT experts changing recommendations. I think because we can start to see when we need to build skill too
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    #atchat agreed. So what does that mean for MS and HS students????
    In reply to @KellyFonner, @KarenJan
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Can explain more about this/ Not sure I understand. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KellyFonner, @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    #atchat What do people think of case study chat? thanks for giving it a try.
  • lrdichiara Nov 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    As Maya Angelou said: When u know better, u do better. This applies here in knowing more AT you made changes. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    #atchat I heard research -if you wait to 1st instead of K to do intervention, the time to catch up doubles
    In reply to @bcdtech, @KellyFonner, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Ruth, thanks for trialing this format - I think it's working well. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Thx to @rziolkowski for moderating tonight. We are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form: https://t.co/wUQEjDPamL #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #atchat Wow-I'm tired. Kudos to you for doing this every week!
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • bcdtech Nov 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Agree- love the focus on real data, Ss, interventions vs or plus accomodations #atchat Thanks Ruth and Karen!
    In reply to @KarenJan, @rziolkowski
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    One tip - @mmatp and I add our questions ahead of time. Makes following the chat MUCH easier. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @mmatp
    • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
      #atchat Wow-I'm tired. Kudos to you for doing this every week!
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Can you explain more? #ATchat
    In reply to @erinngilmore_
    • erinngilmore_ Nov 2 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      AT data takes on many forms - remediation+data+ productivity+ creation + alt assessment + application, more complex than checklist
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • wernedat Nov 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    admin/gen ed teachers are helping to give uPAR and making changes in how they use materials so all Ss can benefit #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    #atchat thanks for giving it a try.
    In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Please share any other stories of system change/capacity building by being more data driven! #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s #ATchat tomorrow morning
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Final thoughts - what did everyone think of this format? #ATchat
  • rziolkowski Nov 2 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    #atchat Good night everyone. Now back to watch the cubbies make history. They need some cheering!
  • KarenJan - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Thank you all for joining our experiment tonight. And Thank you @rziolkowski for your willingness to try something new. #ATchat We need data
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • erinngilmore_ Nov 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    when teams implement successful AT, the data presents itself. In the form content creation and expression in digital forma #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator Nov 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Coming next week to #atchat our Nov. Open forum. Bring a question. Get an answer (or two!)