#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday May 14, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hello, I’m John from MI! Currently a music education major!! #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Andrea from Alberta, canada. 6-12 band. #musedchat
  • NJared0123 May 14 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hello, my name is Jared Na and I'm a graduate student at Chapman University. #musedchat #musiced @YehCathery @ChapmanCES
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi All! Amy from MI. Middle school band teacher. #musedchat
  • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Burton Hable, 6-12 band in Ankeny, IA. Counting down the days until that will be DMA student in Music Ed at Boston University via Charlottesville, VA #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    How are you tonight John? #musedchat
    In reply to @jhallma_mused
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Good to see you Andrea, how are you? #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • Muzzikkatt May 14 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Kathy from MI K-8 general Music & Band #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Welcome to the chat Jared, glad you could join us #musedchat
    In reply to @NJared0123, @YehCathery, @ChapmanCES
  • TheStephenKeys May 14 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Stephen from KY. Middle School Band. Glad to be here. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi all! Sam Fritz from Greenwood IN 6-8 Band #musedchat
  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I’m doing great! How are you? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • smanhart4 May 14 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Happy Monday! Shawna, MS Band, MI. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    How are you this week Amy? All done with the marathon of performances? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Busy....it’s the start of year end, graduation, etc concert season. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Love it! #musedchat
    In reply to @ApexMSchorus
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Good to see you Burton, and congratulations! #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable
  • themusicweaver May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Brad from Atchison, KS. I teach K-5 general music. #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    And you? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Welcome to the chat, Kathy, hope you're well #musedchat
    In reply to @Muzzikkatt
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome to the chat Stephen. Love the profile pic. #musedchat
    In reply to @TheStephenKeys
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hi Sam, glad you could join us for this one #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome to the chat Shawna, good to see you #musedchat
    In reply to @smanhart4
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Survived last week and the only performance we have left now is Chamber Music Night. Concerts were all fun, but glad to have made it through that week! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Brad, good to see you #musedchat
    In reply to @themusicweaver
  • Muzzikkatt May 14 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    #musedchat Fabulous after the rain for a long bike ride. You?
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Q1 coming soon #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Q1: How has your program worked with composers in the past? Commissions/consortiums? Skype? In person clinics? Other? #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: I have never worked with a composer in any capacity but would like the opportunity #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: Commissioned a piece by a local composer several years ago at at diff school. We skyped with @CBernotas this year. #musedchat
  • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 We are very lucky in that @travisjcross is an alumnus of our program. He wrote the fight song for our new school, and I wish he lived closer so we could bring him in more frequently! #musedchat
  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: I can't speak to the first part of this question, but I have been a part of commissions/consortiums and I always try to keep composers in the loop about rehearsals if we are playing a piece of theirs whether it's through a Facebook message or email. #musedchat
  • ecushing527 May 14 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Hi! I’m Erin from FL - I’m a middle school band/chorus director #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: all of the above. Started with writing emails to composers with “previewed and edited” questions. Now we commission whenever possible on our own or through consortium #musedchat
  • TheStephenKeys May 14 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1a. I have commission 3 works. The composers have been great. 1 came to the school, 1 did a Skype session, 1 just cashed the check. The music was great. Kids loved it. #musedchat
  • smanhart4 May 14 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1 I have not had the opportunity 'yet' to pursue working with a composer but it would be pretty awesome. Excited to hover over others insights on this one. #musedchat
  • TheStephenKeys May 14 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1b. Check out the video pinned to my twitter profile. I have applied for Google Innovator. This question is inline with my project. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    @travisjcross “Tribute” is one of my favorite lyrical works for MS Band! #musedchat
    • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:12 PM EDT
      A1 We are very lucky in that @travisjcross is an alumnus of our program. He wrote the fight song for our new school, and I wish he lived closer so we could bring him in more frequently! #musedchat
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Do you find they answer you back? I have emailed two and did not hear back from them. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Who did you commission? #musedchat
    In reply to @TheStephenKeys
  • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1 We also do a jazz artist residency at the end our our jazz band season (April). One year we had Michael Conrad come and do compositions of his with our MS and HS jazz bands, talking about composition with our theory classes, etc. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    <-adds "Tribute" to wish list for next year. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @travisjcross
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Usually yes, it seems to be better when I have a student send the questions. #musedchat
    • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      Do you find they answer you back? I have emailed two and did not hear back from them. #musedchat
      In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Ordered that this year but haven't read through it yet. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @travisjcross
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    We Skyped with Scott Watson a few years back, and joined two fairly affordable consortiums for next year #musedchat
  • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Can I ask what you consider affordable? We've never commissioned or worked through a consortium outside of Dr. Cross. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    What is a consortium? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • TheStephenKeys May 14 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Most composers charge by the measure or minute. I had 1 person say he would not put pen to paper without a $10,000.00 deposit. Most are great and will work with you. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    @sircalebhammer Benjamin Dean Taylor have been awesome for us. Look for crowd sourced commissions from @BrianBalmages - been a part of 2 of his for orchestra. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A group of people/programs who come together to fund a commission. Makes buying in cheaper for all. #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk
  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Love, Love, Love Ben Taylor's music!! I was a part of the Digital Goldfish consortium for saxophone quartet. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @sircalebhammer, @BrianBalmages
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    What is a crowd sourced commission? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @sircalebhammer, @BrianBalmages
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Multiple schools go in together for a less expensive fee. Total cost for the piece might be $5,000 and the consortium cost might be $150 per school. The more the merrier #musedchat
  • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A1 Just thought of this, but we "commission" an arranger for our marching show every year. Not at all on the same level, but a part of what we do. He's an in-state collegiate director that sees us perform frequently and gives us feedback. #musedchat
  • sircalebhammer May 14 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Most likely referring to consortiums #musedchat
    In reply to @AndreaMakarchuk, @SamuelFritz, @BrianBalmages
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Do you have to find the other schools yourself? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    BTW speaking of consortiums, perhaps @sircalebhammer wouldn't mind plugging his collaborative consortium for us tonight #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    @BrianBalmages posts a link on his page advertising through social media. You can contact him and pay your fee to join. #musedchat
    • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:21 PM EDT
      What is a crowd sourced commission? #musedchat
      In reply to @SamuelFritz, @sircalebhammer, @BrianBalmages
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Nice! We're in on that consortium with @sircalebhammer as well. Excited for it! #musedchat
    In reply to @Dustin_Goes, @sircalebhammer
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Good to know. Thanks!! #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @BrianBalmages
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Sometimes yes. It helps if you know some folks (like here) who might commit before you commit. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    I played a premiere in Indiana!!! Tenor sax of Solaire Quartet! Crazy! #musedchat
    • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:21 PM EDT
      Love, Love, Love Ben Taylor's music!! I was a part of the Digital Goldfish consortium for saxophone quartet. #musedchat
      In reply to @SamuelFritz, @sircalebhammer, @BrianBalmages
  • sircalebhammer May 14 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Well, don’t mind if I do 😊 This is a good example of a very affordable consortium... 1 work from 3 composers for only $90! Very rare to be that cheap to be honest, however we are using this one for connections more than anything! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Q2: For those of you who have been involved in the commissioning process...how do you begin the process? How much input would you typically expect to have? #musedchat
  • sircalebhammer May 14 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    And you can find that here: https://t.co/n6a8PIaGOV #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Nice! I played the Tenor part with my quartet this past school year!! #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A2: I reached out to a composer friend from college for ours. He was really great about incorporating our ideas and even taking feedback from students. Since he was local, he came to a few rehearsals and the premier too. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A2: my experiences as been we discuss parameters like keys, ranges, technical concerns, instrumentation, grade and length. We collaborate on the style/topic . Since I have worked with Ben Taylor several times and he live close to me I sometimes get sketches to read #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    That's awesome. And as a bonus, you're supporting young, living composers! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Anyone know of some current/upcoming Grade 1-3 consortiums? I've seen several interesting ones lately, but generally only one of the pieces would be accessible for my middle schoolers. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Didn't realize he was on Twitter. We worked with @anthonylai84! He wrote the piece to be played by our combined elementary recorders plus elem, jh, and hs bands. Lots of fun! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @anthonylai84
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I would 100% get in on a grade 1-2 consortium. The more quality, new music for beginners, the better. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Q3: How have your students benefited from working closely with composers? #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    I’m working on a commission with Ben and the rest of the Blue Dot Collective on a suite of 5 Grade 1 pieces in compound meter for beginning band and orchestra. #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:34 PM EDT
      I would 100% get in on a grade 1-2 consortium. The more quality, new music for beginners, the better. #musedchat
      In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A3: Students only really get to see the end product. They seem to enjoy learning about the process. Our 8th graders were really curious about how music goes from idea to published when talking with @CBernotas. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    This sounds amazing! Keep us posted #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Ooooooh! Link?!? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A3: Hearing an outside voice is always good. Also I think hearing a composer's intent can greater inform their interpretation of the music. #musedchat
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  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A3: In how many other subject areas do kids get to interact with the creator of a primary source? There's value in learning about interpretation from the person who wrote something. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q4: Describe your experiences with skype rehearsals/in person clinics. How approachable was the composer? How did your kids respond long term? #musedchat
  • TheStephenKeys May 14 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Commissioning is great. But why not write a piece yourself? You know your band better than anyone. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I like teaching and playing other peoples' dots. I lack the patience to write my own. :) #musedchat
    In reply to @TheStephenKeys
  • AndreaMakarchuk May 14 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Have to run. Learned lots. Thanks!! Thanks for the chat @jguarr #musedchat
  • jhallma_mused May 14 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A4: As a student I've rehearsed with Morten Lauridsen and Marilyn Shrude in rehearsals; both super great people and very knowledgable about their craft. They were very approachable and had great insights to not only their music, but music as a whole. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    One of the most fun pieces we did this year was a piece a director in Iowa had written for her middle schoolers. Into The Dragon's Keep by Sarah A. Smith. #musedchat
    In reply to @TheStephenKeys
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A4: Mentioned him already, but really enjoyed the perspective @cbernotas brought to the Skype chat as an educator. Have referenced something he said about importance of every member's contribution, including those playing 2nd & 3rd parts many times this yr. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A3: you tell me! Composers are RockStars and we get to hang out with them!!! #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I just bought that one and it came in last week! Excited to play it! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @TheStephenKeys
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A4: Frank Ticheli, John Mackey, and Carter Pann all did residencies when I was in college. *Everybody* brought their absolute best to every rehearsal, and it kept going for awhile after the concerts as well #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Your kids are going to love it! It's a great introductory piece if they haven't had a lot of 6/8 before. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @TheStephenKeys
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    To be honest I was too intimidated by Ticheli to really enjoy myself. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Q5: Anybody ever have their group collaborate with a student composer? What did that collaboration look like? #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Understandable. I imagine I'd be in a similar boat. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • SamuelFritz May 14 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A4: my love for new music starts @MusicISU with our Contemporary Music Festival. Got to meet Karl Husa and that experience drives me to@give my kids the same #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A5: @LStaniszewski1's students from @SCHSBands compose chamber pieces for my kids to play. When schedules have permitted in the past, the composers have come to work with the MS students playing their music. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 14 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    That sounds like an amazing experience for all involved. What sort of parameters are the HS students given? Do they get any sort of theory/orchestration instruction beforehand? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @LStaniszewski1, @SCHSBands
  • BurtonHable May 14 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    We do an Ensemble Project at the end of each year where students get to pick the music they want to perform in a small group of 2-6. We have a senior this year that has composed her own music nearly every year for this project. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever May 14 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Lauren works on theory with them prior to composing. They're also given parameters to make the music playable for my students (ranges, keys, etc.) #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @LStaniszewski1, @SCHSBands