#INZpirED Archive
This is a weekly chat often based around one or two questions to spark discussion & debate around educational issues.
Friday November 25, 2016
9:30 PM EST
KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:30 PM EST
Welcome to
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:30 PM EST
Lets talk about
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today.
#alternativediscipline
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participatelrn
Nov 25 @ 9:29 PM EST
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:31 PM EST
Sunny joining in from New Delhi
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:31 PM EST
Good morning Sunny. Lets talk about healing today
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Sanjuhimachali
Nov 25 @ 9:32 PM EST
Thanks. Looking forward to having an engrosed discussion.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:33 PM EST
Morning Naghma. Tough love vs Restorative justice
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I know what I would choose
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 9:33 PM EST
Joining
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from Maryland.
bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 9:33 PM EST
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good morning healing
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:34 PM EST
Morning Sanjeev. Glad to have you on
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@naghma_khn
modding today on Restorative Justice.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:34 PM EST
Welcome Sanjeev. Hope we all gain some new insights today
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:35 PM EST
Morning Jim.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:35 PM EST
Good morning Jim. looking forward to your valuable inputs today
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:35 PM EST
Howdy! Matthew joining from Texas.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:35 PM EST
Welcome to our mutual passion.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:36 PM EST
Morning aarti
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is morning healing indeed :)
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:36 PM EST
Would love to hear
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 9:36 PM EST
@KSThakral
Oh, thanks. No pressure.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:36 PM EST
Good morning from India Matthew. We are talking about alternative discipline today
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 9:37 PM EST
Morning Matthew. Glad to have you on
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is leading on restorative justice today
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:37 PM EST
Q 1. coming right up
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:38 PM EST
Hello global friends! Jumping to say hello as I wait for my wife at the airport here in Dallas, Texas.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:38 PM EST
Q 1. Does suspension corrects behavior? Share your experiences,thoughts and beliefs
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:39 PM EST
Sunny are you in New Delhi now? Are just on holiday?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:39 PM EST
Wow. Welcome back to
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. Havenβt caught up to you in a long while. Hope you have been well.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:39 PM EST
Hey there, nothing better than joining us till your wait gets over
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:40 PM EST
Moved to New Delhi. New school - same old name.
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 9:40 PM EST
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punishment n reward have a yo-yo effect, logic, reasoning n inner motivation work instead
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:41 PM EST
A1: Suspension removes the problem from the school. Perhaps gives thinking time for both parties - rarely resolves issues.
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:41 PM EST
Very true!
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 9:42 PM EST
A1 Depending on the person, suspension might be just a vacation. The "punished" person returns refreshed to continue.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:42 PM EST
Joining in from Mumbai IN, good morning
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:43 PM EST
Good morning to all the lovely people!!!
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 9:43 PM EST
Reflection peer help have shown results
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respect on both sides
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:43 PM EST
Exactly. How do we expect a child asked to go back home, to return and start behaving decently
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:43 PM EST
good evening Harrison wishing you both
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from team
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:44 PM EST
Morning Pranav :)
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:44 PM EST
A1 personally I don't think there's any educational value to suspension as it's not a corrective measure in any sense.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:44 PM EST
Continue the same behavior with much more intensity
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:44 PM EST
Morning Sana
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:45 PM EST
If suspension corrected behavior, PK students would be perfect, right?
https://t.co/hlzCvVeqUV
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:45 PM EST
I believe suspension is a simple temporary solution with no lasting results. There are better ways to handle a situation.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:45 PM EST
True say. Often 'experts' use suspension as a holiday from school
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 9:46 PM EST
Morning Sunny to this beautiful sunny morning! π
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:46 PM EST
Happy thanksgiving to our northern hemisphere tweeps π
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:46 PM EST
Point to ponder
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:45 PM EST
If suspension corrected behavior, PK students would be perfect, right?
https://t.co/hlzCvVeqUV
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:46 PM EST
sleeping in a bit π
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:46 PM EST
good evening &
#happythanksgiving
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
I hope I won't get detention for being late as we are opposing it today!
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Sanjuhimachali
Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
A1 Certainly not. The suspension gives the other person time to become more vigor.
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
We work hard at alternatives. No suspensions in 2 1/2 years on my campus.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
which leads to our second Q of the day. Coming right up.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
All they've learned is how to get their next "vacation."
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
Suspension is a management tool for schools. It used to work due to social stigma but is of no value today
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
welcome to
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Sanjeev do share your valuable insights and thoughts
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:47 PM EST
While suspension may have its place, many Ss think it's a free day.
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:48 PM EST
Thank you and the same to you!
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:48 PM EST
That's exciting Sunny - what's your role there? R u missing Nepal?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:40 PM EST
Moved to New Delhi. New school - same old name.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:48 PM EST
And many little ones have no idea when they're being good. They need a better reference point.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:48 PM EST
Q2.What are the alternatives to suspension? Do students see these alternatives as soft approach
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:48 PM EST
Agree. plus what message are we sending children. Get rid of your problems rather than deal with them
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:49 PM EST
yes! And same is with detention for younger Ss. Everyone seems to be switching over to mindfulness now
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Sanjuhimachali
Nov 25 @ 9:49 PM EST
A1 Suspension is a temporary solution for a permanent solution. Behavior corrections cannot be addressed through suspension.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:49 PM EST
I mostly agree. I can think of a few instances where I might use it. Thinking violence, or other egregious
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:50 PM EST
Head of Ed. Tech - kind of similar role but on a bigger scale in a different context & yes :)
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:50 PM EST
And better interpretation too.
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:50 PM EST
A2 in our primary school we have recently started mindfulness sessions with late comers in the mornings. Seems 2 b working fine
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 9:51 PM EST
A2 Punishment is best done with culprit in school, tailored to deprive offender of something of value to discourage repetition.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
A2: could counselling by school psychiatrist or counsellor help instead of expulsion?Or give them responsible role in sum activity
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
That is why it needs to be a well thought and structured process. Are we sending them back to become worse
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
Wouldnβt even use it in violent cases. The student is free to do as they please out of school.
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rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
Good morning/evening
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Finding alt ways & addressing the root cause of disruptive behaviour leading to suspension is very imp.
SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
A1: I feel like suspension does not have many positive results. Perhaps better methods can be implemented.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
haha. Come in early next time :)
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
Wow, would love to learn the alternatives used.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
I'm not saying I'd do an out of school suspension but other students need to be safe too.
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Open to ideas.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
true it would just move the problem with the child to another school instead we should fix the problem w/the child
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
We have PB4L in NZ schools
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restorative practice grounded in beliefs about equality, dignity, mana& the potential of all people.
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:54 PM EST
But what happens when it is an in school thing?
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:54 PM EST
Depends on school. Have seen them in office/library, etc. Isolated from rest of students.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:55 PM EST
There need to be various agents involved. needs to be a holistic approach
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:55 PM EST
Here's the link
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https://t.co/rVDk0NeOFr
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:55 PM EST
which means spending time to understand the individual.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
May be true. That's a different conversation. need counseling, etc.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
yes& work w/ the child to tackle the reason for irrational behaviour over a few months rather than capital punishment
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Encouraging and putting them in leadership positions could be a positive reinforcement that many students need.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
A good start.
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 9:50 PM EST
A2 in our primary school we have recently started mindfulness sessions with late comers in the mornings. Seems 2 b working fine
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Counselling would be key. Time outs can help. Have safe zones for kids.
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Sanjuhimachali
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
A2 Behaviour Coaching is an awesome tool to correct a behaviour.
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. Punishment, as soft as, suspension...doesn't give results.
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:48 PM EST
Q2.What are the alternatives to suspension? Do students see these alternatives as soft approach
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rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Having a In house school chaplain who liaises between the school and parents - has def helped to a large extent at my school.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
A2: could counselling by school psychiatrist or counsellor help instead of expulsion?Or give them responsible role in sum activity
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
A2: An alternative to suspension can be in-school suspension. EX: skill-building related to the student's behavior problem.
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 9:57 PM EST
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sometimes...but there is an unconscious realization that this is a reaching out to their need .. something that helps
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:57 PM EST
That's exactly why we need to stop avoiding bad behavior! It needs to be confronted and dealt with at the school.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:57 PM EST
A very integral question. How do we deal with the safety of others and their sufferings?
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
I'm not saying I'd do an out of school suspension but other students need to be safe too.
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Open to ideas.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:58 PM EST
Would love to explore PB4L
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
We have PB4L in NZ schools
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restorative practice grounded in beliefs about equality, dignity, mana& the potential of all people.
nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:58 PM EST
Harini agree mediation & reflection often helps
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https://t.co/A01PWqmiS3
rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Having a In house school chaplain who liaises between the school and parents - has def helped to a large extent at my school.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
A2: could counselling by school psychiatrist or counsellor help instead of expulsion?Or give them responsible role in sum activity
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 9:58 PM EST
Yes, blanket punishment might afflict some, reward others.
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Sanjuhimachali
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
Totally in agreement with you. School management, in a rush, to find quick solutions, ignore counseling and coaching
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
Great share Viv thanks
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:55 PM EST
Here's the link
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if you r interested
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https://t.co/rVDk0NeOFr
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
Which makes it worse. labeling at its best, leading to more destruction.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
Yes, They can also feel that their point of view isnβt heard or acknowledged
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
You know, it's a lot about parent support and building relationships with the Ss to avoid the big issues.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
Giving them room to grow, change. Difficult when we have so many other things to prioritize.
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
Schools I work with have noticed significant improvements
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 9:58 PM EST
Would love to explore PB4L
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 9:53 PM EST
We have PB4L in NZ schools
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restorative practice grounded in beliefs about equality, dignity, mana& the potential of all people.
sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:00 PM EST
A2 For older students community service is a superb alternative to suspension. Not very prevelant in our part of the world.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:00 PM EST
Can be. Depends on how its handled. Safety is paramount.
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
Activities , distractions, working on a much loved project also has merits
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
Schools need to devote more time to it & often as they are busy places - most cop out & pick time saving strategies
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
with a strong mentor
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Encouraging and putting them in leadership positions could be a positive reinforcement that many students need.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:02 PM EST
Safe zones: how do we create them?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Counselling would be key. Time outs can help. Have safe zones for kids.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:02 PM EST
We have community service required for graduation, but it seems to be mostly a paperwork shuffle.
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rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
Got to go
@KSThakral
@PranSang
@naghma_khn
.Have a great chat.Goodbye everyone.Have a great weekend.Will catchup .Please tag me.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
Would love to know more
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rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Having a In house school chaplain who liaises between the school and parents - has def helped to a large extent at my school.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
A2: could counselling by school psychiatrist or counsellor help instead of expulsion?Or give them responsible role in sum activity
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
one way could be by making a responsible student overlook activities of the child with challenges& reporting to classT
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
yes that's true unfortunately. But if we bring it in as part of the curriculum it can do wonders
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
It is bad behavior rather than bad students
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:57 PM EST
That's exactly why we need to stop avoiding bad behavior! It needs to be confronted and dealt with at the school.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:04 PM EST
Have a great weekend Harini. Glad to have you onboard
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:04 PM EST
I agree! Parent involvement is important throughout a student's educational path. Educators need to bridge this gap with parents.
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
You know, it's a lot about parent support and building relationships with the Ss to avoid the big issues.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
By teaching children - no space is safe unless the community respects that
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Ss need "psychological safety " , fear of being ridiculed gets them to misbehave
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S clown up, disrupt than agree studies not clear
sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
structured time outs r useful. Just sitting in a corner for a 5 yr old becomes traumatic if frequent
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Be careful with this. It could put that responsible child in-between a rock and a hard place.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Isn't that tell tale? Students dynamics will sufffer
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
one way could be by making a responsible student overlook activities of the child with challenges& reporting to classT
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Thank you for the valuable inputs
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
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identify triggers..also kinesthetic engagements of their interest and above all sensitization of peers for supporting
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Missed your tweet. Addressing the symptoms are important. Spend more time treating then preventing.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Confronted yes, but also try to identify the root cause. Catch them being good.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:07 PM EST
Like everything else, its success depends on who's running the program and how punishment is enforced.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:07 PM EST
There is always something more important to attend to
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
Schools need to devote more time to it & often as they are busy places - most cop out & pick time saving strategies
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:07 PM EST
Welcome to
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yes - counselling seems to be a key theme along with safe zones for children. Get them to write perhaps
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:08 PM EST
Bring all the agents working on/for the child together
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
You know, it's a lot about parent support and building relationships with the Ss to avoid the big issues.
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:08 PM EST
if punishments are recreated keeping in mind something constructive the whole devil pictured behind it would vanish
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:09 PM EST
That is the way forward. Also getting kids to articulate why they did what they did, helps understanding their point of view
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:09 PM EST
Little is more important than our relationships. Without these little learning takes place
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:10 PM EST
A3 mindfulness and counselling are slowly replacing lunch detentions in our school thankfully
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:10 PM EST
And make it a big deal
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Confronted yes, but also try to identify the root cause. Catch them being good.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:11 PM EST
Connect before you correct
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. Students will never listen to someone they don't like.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Behaviour in the end is mostly all about relationships
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
I hv once disciplined my class of 11 yr olds by putting up a sheet saying "no of time we fought today" and Ss putting tally marks
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
oh yes!!! Only every individual needs to be handled differently. Ss are humans not sheep!
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
School environment matters
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happy motivated Ts bring about good class room management, Ss mirror what they see not spoken words
KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
Short of medical conditions - yes. All they need is the right environment and people who truly care for them
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
And they need to know/hear that
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
Short of medical conditions - yes. All they need is the right environment and people who truly care for them
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
I never discipline a student without first analyzing the behavior that was demonstrated. What caused it? How can it be prevented?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
Self realisation is the best remedy to bad behaviour especially in children
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
Can, yes. For everyone? No. All the time? No. Will? No.
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
@KSThakral
often takes time & space - mindfulness a good approach also
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:09 PM EST
That is the way forward. Also getting kids to articulate why they did what they did, helps understanding their point of view
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
totally agree...
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@KSThakral
quoting..TLC, building relationships, connect, engaged Ss and empathy does wonders
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
Yes - but how easily we forget that in a busy school day - setting up systems and forgetting the individual
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
Invest in the students
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
I never discipline a student without first analyzing the behavior that was demonstrated. What caused it? How can it be prevented?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
A4: Each child will come to school with different behaviors due to diff. backgrounds. Guide each student with diff. approaches.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
Most of the time, Put I'd include mental health as well
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
What outcomes do I want the student to attain? And will the student learn for future reference?
#EDCI365
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
have to dash ... great catch up &
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as always - travel safe my friends ka kite ano (until next time)
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
Know your students
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
A4: Each child will come to school with different behaviors due to diff. backgrounds. Guide each student with diff. approaches.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
Data. Must have Data. We're falling behind the rest of the world
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
Leads to the need to have specialists in school too train /support Ts in this area
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
A3: Safe zones are first created through trust.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
A4 If given the opportunity and attention, students can respond. But there must be consideration of adverse home environments.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:20 PM EST
Haha - that made me chuckle
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:21 PM EST
I believe in the best for my students. I want them all to have equal opportunities to succeed in the classroom.
#EDCI365
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:22 PM EST
Q5. "Discipline that restores", what does it means to you? Will you try to change/take few steps towards the alternative way?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
Great approach. Always address the behaviour and not the child.
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
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@sansanananana
totally agree, depends on the age-group we are dealing with.primary Ss..Ts-Sp work 2gther
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
Am missing
@JenaiaMorane
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
and be a role model for your Ss too
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
Great approach. Always address the behaviour and not the child.
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
My goal for the students is not for them to behave decently but for them to be able and comfortable enough to rely on me.
#EDCI365
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:25 PM EST
Thanks Viv. Stay safe. Pleasure as always
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:26 PM EST
Can't ignore the influence of the dysfunctional family side (sometimes).
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:26 PM EST
thanks for joining in Vivek &
#happythanksgiving
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:27 PM EST
A5 Discipline that restores might also be discipline that establishes in the case of incorrigibles who had no accepted norm.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:27 PM EST
Which will eventually work on the behavior. Great strategy Matthew
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
My goal for the students is not for them to behave decently but for them to be able and comfortable enough to rely on me.
#EDCI365
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:27 PM EST
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Relevant? I think so.
mr_rcollins
Nov 25 @ 9:29 PM EST
Dont Do Something, Just Stand There
#pbl
#edchat
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:28 PM EST
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@naghma_khn
to bring a change modeling required also active collaboration with parents
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:28 PM EST
true, Ss r in school n under our care for 8 hours,
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Ts make all the difference
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:29 PM EST
So is.
#mindfulness
Stillness can be powerful at times than the need to react.
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