#LPMHQ Archive

#LPMHQ is a positive, progressive educational space for current and future legal project managers, process improvement specialists and pricing professionals. We focus on providing a learning environment to share ideas and best practices. There is no membership required. #LPMHQ is open to both practicing lawyers and business of law professionals including legal operations professionals from law firms, in-house legal teams, alternative legal service providers and consultants who have an interest in learning or sharing their relevant experiences. We strive to be open minded and discuss ideas with people sharing different views. You get out of these chats what you put in. So be candid. Come ready to share.

Wednesday January 23, 2019
12:00 PM EST

  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM EST
    Rick Kathuria here from Gowling WLG in Toronto, Canada. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM EST
    WELCOME TO #lpmhq Topic: "When the rubber meets the road" Implementing LPM. Please introduce yourself, where you are from & what you do in legal. The chat starts... RIGHT NOW!
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:01 PM EST
    TIP: Reminder to use #LPMHQ at the end of your tweet when answering questions. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:01 PM EST
    Hi Rick. Welcome again! Thanks for joining us! #LPMHQ
    • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM EST
      Rick Kathuria here from Gowling WLG in Toronto, Canada. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:02 PM EST
    Q1. What's your strategy for rolling out LPM? Do you do it by practice area? By individual laywers? By "Big Cases"? #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:02 PM EST
    Kim Craig here from chilly Chicago representing @boldduckstudio #LPMHQ
  • JE_Duggan Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM EST
    #LPMHQ - John Duggan here from Seyfarth Shaw in Chicago
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM EST
    TIPS: Remember to label your answer A1 to respond to question one, A2 to respond to question two, and so forth. #LPMHQ
  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM EST
    A1 - There is no 1 size fits all strategy. What worked for us was to tell everyone about it, provide details on a practice by practice basis and mentor people individually for each matter #LPMHQ
  • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM EST
    #LPMHQ Shea Twomey-Meuse, Director of Matter Management Services, WilmerHale
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM EST
    Hello again Shea! Welcome! #LPMHQ
    • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM EST
      #LPMHQ Shea Twomey-Meuse, Director of Matter Management Services, WilmerHale
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:04 PM EST
    Hello Chicago! Thanks for joining the conversation John! #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:04 PM EST
    A1: To get started it is helpful to identify the PG or client portfolio that is under pressure/stress, due to a lack of planning and execution and/or alignment with the client. #lpmhq
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:04 PM EST
    Hey Kim! Looking forward to seeing you at Legal Tech next week! #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:05 PM EST
    WELCOME TO #lpmhq ! Please introduce yourself, where you are from & what you do in legal. WE ARE UNDERWAY! #LPMHQ Today's topic: "When the rubber meets the road" Implementing LPM. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:05 PM EST
    Great approach! #LPMHQ
    • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:04 PM EST
      A1: To get started it is helpful to identify the PG or client portfolio that is under pressure/stress, due to a lack of planning and execution and/or alignment with the client. #lpmhq
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:06 PM EST
    A1: If you consider that each PG is it's own unique business, with its own unique clients, talent, needs, you must have a flexible program that can respond to that business' needs and the clients they are servicing. #lpmhq
  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:06 PM EST
    Agreed - Success stories are always a great tool! #LPMHQ
    In reply to @Brownie715
  • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:07 PM EST
    A1 - #LPMHQ - we told everyone about it and then focused on those who wanted to buy it. Focusing on "buyers" first gave us great momentum to work with others who weren't so willing to jump in
    In reply to @Rick_A_K
  • MJAscano Jan 23 @ 12:07 PM EST
    A1 I've had the most success by groupings of attorneys by PG. When done by client it doesn't become habit, it becomes a chore for one particular client. #LPMHQ
  • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:07 PM EST
    Daniel Raymer from Proskauer Rose in Chicago checking into #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:08 PM EST
    Welcome Daniel from Chicago! #LPMHQ
    • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:07 PM EST
      Daniel Raymer from Proskauer Rose in Chicago checking into #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:08 PM EST
    A1: Find those partners that will have a tolerance to explore and test new approaches rather than broadcasting your program before you have any wins or champions, Proof is in the pudding and a positive client response will take your program far, #LPM #lpmhq
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:09 PM EST
    Q1. [Repeat] What's your strategy for rolling out LPM? Do you do it by practice area? By individual lawyers? By "Big Cases"?#LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:09 PM EST
    Meaning, find a small, quick win and then build upon that success? #LPMHQ
    • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:08 PM EST
      A1: Find those partners that will have a tolerance to explore and test new approaches rather than broadcasting your program before you have any wins or champions, Proof is in the pudding and a positive client response will take your program far, #LPM #lpmhq
  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:09 PM EST
    What I like about the PG method is that you can show very specifically how it is relevant in that specific Practice Group. Otherwise, you get the "Yes, it looks good, but not relevant for the kind of work I do" response! #LPMHQ
    In reply to @MJAscano
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:10 PM EST
    Hello #LPMHQ community! If you're following us live, you are part of the movement! Let us know you're there. Please introduce yourself, where you are from & what you do in legal. #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:11 PM EST
    A1: Absolutely. There is something to be said about connecting an intentional approach to an organic growth. #LPMHQ
    In reply to @thisisakiliao
  • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:11 PM EST
    A1 Talking challenge rather than strategy: explaining LPM succinctly enough to keep a newcomer’s attn while still giving an accurate intro is very tough. Hard to neither give narrow examples nor over-generalize. #LPMHQ
  • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:12 PM EST
    A1. #LPMHQ In my experience individual lawyer is typically more successful than by practice group. It needs to be personal for someone to engage (i.e., partner is spending a lot of time putting together accruals/forecasts each month - LPM can help you with that!)
    In reply to @thisisakiliao
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:13 PM EST
    Solving for the "pain" in order the get the "gain"! #LPMHQ
    • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:12 PM EST
      A1. #LPMHQ In my experience individual lawyer is typically more successful than by practice group. It needs to be personal for someone to engage (i.e., partner is spending a lot of time putting together accruals/forecasts each month - LPM can help you with that!)
      In reply to @thisisakiliao
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM EST
    Some firms launching LPM get hung up focusing on the "right tools" to have for their program without even testing and getting buy in. Have flexibility in your approaches. Being too stringent and rigid is the fastest way to kill your LPM program in my experience. #lpmhq
  • ChristmasLizzie Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM EST
    Lizzie Christmas checking in - current LLM student at Cornell Tech (NYC), former corporate lawyer working in an Innovation team at a firm in NZ #LPMHQ
  • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM EST
    A1. #LPMHQ right! asking "what gets in your way?"
    In reply to @thisisakiliao
  • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM EST
    A1 To talk strategy, I’m a big believer in focusing on influential individuals. PGs would be ideal if the group and leaders are truly motivated. But word-of-mouth success stories are most reliable, partners look to ‘hot’ individuals like any other org. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:15 PM EST
    Welcome Lizzie from NYC by way of NZ! #LPMHQ
    • ChristmasLizzie Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM EST
      Lizzie Christmas checking in - current LLM student at Cornell Tech (NYC), former corporate lawyer working in an Innovation team at a firm in NZ #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:15 PM EST
    And before all else, gain clarity on what PROBLEM your organization believes LPM will solve. It is not a panacea for everything. #LPM #lpmhq
  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:16 PM EST
    Agreed - LPM has very different benefits in different situations. #LPMHQ
    In reply to @kim_craig
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:17 PM EST
    Q2: How are you engaging the legal team in LPM tasks and activities to get their buy in? What are the tricks of the trade? #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:17 PM EST
    Right. This is still a continuing challenge. Do you have an LPM initiative vs LPM program? If you don't have an LPM - who's doing the LPM work? #LPMHQ
    • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:15 PM EST
      And before all else, gain clarity on what PROBLEM your organization believes LPM will solve. It is not a panacea for everything. #LPM #lpmhq
  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:18 PM EST
    A2 - Demonstrate the value in what LPM provides: reduced effort to create a realistic budget (happier lawyer)+improved collaboration with the client through the life of the matter (happier client)=win more work with less effort #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:18 PM EST
    A2. I've heard about creating small wins. What really gets the word out? Creates some virality? #LPMHQ
    • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:17 PM EST
      Q2: How are you engaging the legal team in LPM tasks and activities to get their buy in? What are the tricks of the trade? #LPMHQ
  • david_rueff Jan 23 @ 12:18 PM EST
    Q1: Attorneys will want to know it that it gets results before investing time and effort. Starting out, we focused our efforts on helping a team improve (communication, client service, profitability) which served as a case study for others to buy-in. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:19 PM EST
    TIPS: Remember to label your answer A1 to respond to question one, A2 to respond to question two, and so forth. #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:19 PM EST
    A1: Q: Why are you standing up an LPM program? A: Because clients say we should. Q: What problems are your clients seeing that they think LPM will solve? A: Not sure but they think we should have a project manager so we're doing that. #deadinthewater #checkingboxes #LPM #lpmhq
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:19 PM EST
    Hello David! Another good approach. #LPMHQ
    • david_rueff Jan 23 @ 12:18 PM EST
      Q1: Attorneys will want to know it that it gets results before investing time and effort. Starting out, we focused our efforts on helping a team improve (communication, client service, profitability) which served as a case study for others to buy-in. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:20 PM EST
    Once again, if you're out there and just "reading," please let us know by introducing yourself. You are part of the #LPMHQ movement!
  • MJAscano Jan 23 @ 12:20 PM EST
    A2 I end up focusing a fair bit on reduction of write offs as well as an easier baked in process of client reporting/updating. #lpmhq
  • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:20 PM EST
    A2 I always recommend the book Nudge. Much broader topic than LPM or even business strategy. Discusses choice architecture and how to use social norms to motivate behavior... #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:21 PM EST
    Q2: [repeat] How are you engaging the legal team in LPM tasks and activities to get their buy in? What are the tricks of the trade? #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:21 PM EST
    How often is there a discount upfront and then write offs later on. I've heard it often totals over 15%! On a big engagement, that's a lot of $$$$ #LPMHQ
    • MJAscano Jan 23 @ 12:20 PM EST
      A2 I end up focusing a fair bit on reduction of write offs as well as an easier baked in process of client reporting/updating. #lpmhq
  • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:22 PM EST
    A2 Nagging is inevitable, and is much more effective if combined with hints at how others are doing. ‘You haven’t done X yet. Here’s a list of your colleagues who completed X and are now doing Y.’ Unbelievably effective. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:23 PM EST
    I like the slogan. "Win more work with less effort." #LPMHQ
    • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:18 PM EST
      A2 - Demonstrate the value in what LPM provides: reduced effort to create a realistic budget (happier lawyer)+improved collaboration with the client through the life of the matter (happier client)=win more work with less effort #LPMHQ
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:23 PM EST
    A2: With the rise of LPM in-house, it is helpful to connect law firm LPMs with in-house Legal Ops who, for the most part, are trying to employ project management tools and techniques. Talk the talk and walk the walk with the client gets buy in from law firm practitioners. #lpmhq
  • david_rueff Jan 23 @ 12:23 PM EST
    Here is one trick of the trade - identify a team and perform some due diligence on indicators of need for improvement - write downs are evidence of a need for improved team communication. Write offs are evidence of the need for training or clarity with the client. #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:23 PM EST
    Classic FOMO! (Fear of missing out). Effective, I see. #LPMHQ
    • DARaymer Jan 23 @ 12:22 PM EST
      A2 Nagging is inevitable, and is much more effective if combined with hints at how others are doing. ‘You haven’t done X yet. Here’s a list of your colleagues who completed X and are now doing Y.’ Unbelievably effective. #LPMHQ
  • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:24 PM EST
    A2. #LPMHQ embedding the LPM in a matter team so that they have a 360 view and become the partner's trusted advisor-that produces small wins constantly through the life of the matter that partners cannot ignore
    In reply to @thisisakiliao
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:25 PM EST
    Thanks for sharing this best practice. It's about the write-downs and write-offs. Or what I've heard, not over servicing. Doing what you'll get paid for. #LPMHQ
    • david_rueff Jan 23 @ 12:23 PM EST
      Here is one trick of the trade - identify a team and perform some due diligence on indicators of need for improvement - write downs are evidence of a need for improved team communication. Write offs are evidence of the need for training or clarity with the client. #LPMHQ
  • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:26 PM EST
    Often, we will focus on the junior associate on the team and mentor them on the LPM role. They are often keen to know more about the rest of the matter anyway so often jump at the chance. #LPMHQ
    In reply to @Brownie715, @thisisakiliao
  • Brownie715 Jan 23 @ 12:26 PM EST
    A2. #LPMHQ yes! ask forgiveness rather than permission. proactively creating a relationship with client legal ops is hard for a partner to dismiss
    In reply to @kim_craig
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:26 PM EST
    For those you attending NY Legal Tech next week and are interested in getting together let me know? PM me! #LPMHQ
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:27 PM EST
    Another great best practice! This will be an upcoming topic. What we can impart to younger generation of would be LPMs and what we can learn from them. #LPMHQ
    • Rick_A_K Jan 23 @ 12:26 PM EST
      Often, we will focus on the junior associate on the team and mentor them on the LPM role. They are often keen to know more about the rest of the matter anyway so often jump at the chance. #LPMHQ
      In reply to @Brownie715, @thisisakiliao
  • kim_craig Jan 23 @ 12:27 PM EST
    A2: LPM should be part of an org's capability set which would include understanding how practitioners can/should employ it - from scoping, budgeting, & delivery. Leverage their domain expertise in a prac area & bring the right approach and tools to help them execute LPM. #lpmhq
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:28 PM EST
    Thank you for coming ready to share and being open. Next chat is 2 weeks! February 6, 2019, 12pm, EST. “This all sounds good, but what do I do when I get back to my office?” Day-to-Day Best Practices in LPM #LPMHQ https://t.co/KI5gH9yQo3
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:29 PM EST
    We're always looking for feedback and new topics. To help ensure the #LPMHQ chat continues to evolve, here is a short Google form for you to share your ideas! https://t.co/lGITycPtuP
  • thisisakiliao - Moderator Jan 23 @ 12:30 PM EST
    Thank you for sharing. Have a good rest of your day! This has been #LPMHQ Chats archived here. https://t.co/roxpG508Lf