#miched Archive

The #michED chat is a grassroots effort dedicated to giving teachers, students, and parents across Michigan a bigger voice in the conversation about education in our state. We welcome all voices through a variety of projects, media, and social networking. We’re trying to address educational issues through apolitical conversation, spreading ideas and stories of success from Michigan classrooms across the state, and helping teachers and students regain the courage to connect and demonstrate that schools in Michigan are creating amazing opportunities for learning. We want the face and voice of education in Michigan to be a mural of shared experiences and positive examples of connected learning.
Wednesday January 4, 2017
8:00 PM EST
  • pwagnerlcisd Jan 4 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Join us for #txed tonight 8:30 CST. Topic- the New Year and goals. Stop by and invite a friend! #tlap #moedchat #iachat #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #MichEd Let's start w/introductions. I'm Steve Seward, MASSP Associate Director passionate learner & educator.
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Join #MSchat 1/5/17 8 PM ET to talk about Opportunity and Schools! Hope you can join us! #michED #edchat 😀
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Our Topic: Honest Talk About Evaluations #MichEd
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Sara Rosell, Rochester High Science #MichED
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi Sara, Welcome to the #Miched chat
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Good evening! Steve Carlson, Principal of Sandusky Jr/Sr High School and member of the @massp Board of Directors #miched
    In reply to @massp
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hello Friend, Happy to see you joining the group. Your insights will be powerful! #miched
    • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:02 PM EST
      Good evening! Steve Carlson, Principal of Sandusky Jr/Sr High School and member of the @massp Board of Directors #miched
      In reply to @massp
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Thanks for moderating tonight, @sewardstephen #miched
    In reply to @sewardstephen
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Sammy - 4th grade science and ELA at East Jackson! #michED
  • michEDchat - Moderator Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Good evening! Great to start the new year chatting together. Share who you are, where you're from and what you do. #MichED
  • ronhoutman Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hello #MichED - Ron from @kentisd over here in GRR. Happy Wednesday!
    In reply to @kentisd
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Ann Smart from @JacksonISD still enjoying my last week of vacation! #miched
    In reply to @JacksonISD
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Matt McCullough - Director of Innovation at Schoolcraft Community Schools and Kzoo resident! #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hello #miched Tara, 8th math, @Creekside_MS in Zeeland.
    In reply to @Creekside_MS
  • RMWynkoop Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Rachelle from St. Clair. Enjoying my cup of almond milk hot chocolate on this cold, blustery evening! #MichED
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
    I'm Jeff, SS at Kent Innovation High, in Grand Rapids #miched
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:04 PM EST
    #MichEd
    In reply to @sewardstephen
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Welcome Rachelle--keep bringing the chocolate milk as you tweet. They go hand in hand. #miched
    • RMWynkoop Jan 4 @ 8:03 PM EST
      Rachelle from St. Clair. Enjoying my cup of almond milk hot chocolate on this cold, blustery evening! #MichED
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Tyler from Clinton. APUSH, WHAP, Ed Tech and SST Methods at Siena Heights Univ. #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi Matt- WELCOME! #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Todd, 7th grade science teacher checking in from Warren MI #miched
  • PhysicsGuyTighe Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Steve from LO. Physics T and dept. chair. #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Ron! The ed tech ninja is in the house! #miched
  • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Good evening and happy thoughts to my long time friends- great topic #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Good evening Matt #miched
    In reply to @mcculloughmg
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Good evening Stephen hope all is well! #miched
    In reply to @PhysicsGuyTighe
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:06 PM EST
    We will be using the Q1: and then you respond with A1: format to keep the chat organized and don't forget to include #MichEd
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Good evening Rachelle #miched
    In reply to @RMWynkoop
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:07 PM EST
    #miched Chris from Allegan. Math and tech guy checking in.
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hey Jeff missed you when we were in GR last week! #miched
    In reply to @bushjms
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Anne Thorp over here in Holland, MI waiting on the snow! #miched
  • kthom0307_kathy Jan 4 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hey #miched what's rockin'?
  • kithard Jan 4 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Happy New Year, #miched. Just finishing up at the pool. Will check in when I'm home.
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Here comes question #1 #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Q1: What are some ways to move evaluations away from compliance into meaningful feedback tools? #MichED
  • mgrosstaylor Jan 4 @ 8:09 PM EST
    💪🏾{NEW POST} EMPOWER #OneWord2017 Let's start here w/Ts & Ss in 2017! https://t.co/XOPtazrXeD #currichat #edbeat #FLedChat #miched #suptchat
  • Refthinking Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Who is doing some reading tonight? #Reading #ONEdChat #Miched #Quotes
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Hello #MichED - thanks for inviting MASSP to your party!
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: Have to make observations timely and relevant: More than twice a year dog and pony show #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: A focus on constant improvement instead of meeting a checklist.Action research as a process for eval. NOT a neverending rubric #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: Tch & admin have to first have trusting relationship & admin needs to really know that classroom. Then open minds = meaningful. #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Empowering educators and building leadership capacity is something we all appreciate! #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: Have relevant timely and specific feedback for teachers ... Like right after observation instead of up to 30 days later #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1) a lot will fall on the evaluator and their willingness to assist the teacher to grow. Examples, PD, literature all helps. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Good evening Steven hope all is well #miched
    In reply to @MrCarlsonSHS, @massp
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: Validated tools, trained observers, strength-based focus, TS involved in goal-setting, both parties presuming positive intent #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:08 PM EST
      Q1: What are some ways to move evaluations away from compliance into meaningful feedback tools? #MichED
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: evaluations should happen throughout the year ... progress can be observed with real time feedback each time... #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    BAM! Feedback must be useful for. teachers and students. #miched
    • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
      A1: Have to make observations timely and relevant: More than twice a year dog and pony show #miched
  • ronhoutman Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: Evaluations should be focused more on coaching vs a 15 minute checklist of 'things I saw'. #MichED
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Stop attaching the outcome to so much. Make it more about coaching & improvement rather than judgement. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Relevant PD to teachers evaluations is a key to moving the process to next level. #miched
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Agreed- inquiry based model is needed! #Miched
    • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
      A1: A focus on constant improvement instead of meeting a checklist.Action research as a process for eval. NOT a neverending rubric #miched
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: Mindset changes. Admin/lege see Ts are doing their best (no "bottom 5%"). Ts need to see we aren't perfect. Always look to grow. #miched
  • RMWynkoop Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: Goal setting & conversation important aspects of evals. Best professional convos ever had were w/ @BBrutyn discussing practice #MichED
    In reply to @BBrutyn
  • PhysicsGuyTighe Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: recognize that good teaching and learning is not "sage on the stage". #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: different admin stop in randomly more than 2x a year. Talk to my Ss. Talk to parents. #MichED
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: TIME: Admins need time with teachers to talk about REAL career goals and how PD and growth is achieving them #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Agreed 💯 PD for the sake of offering PD (especially if your own staff can teach it to you) is redundant. #miched
    In reply to @blocht574
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    So true. We cannot get to true improvement without shared trust and knowing each other well. #miched
    • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
      A1: Tch & admin have to first have trusting relationship & admin needs to really know that classroom. Then open minds = meaningful. #miched
  • OHara_HPS Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    focus on collecting and sharing evidence...leave opinion out of it. #miched
    • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
      A1: Validated tools, trained observers, strength-based focus, TS involved in goal-setting, both parties presuming positive intent #miched
      • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:08 PM EST
        Q1: What are some ways to move evaluations away from compliance into meaningful feedback tools? #MichED
  • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1 get rid of "grading" teachers with numbers on a scale. How about continuous feedback, encouragement, support? Tough job! #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Well said @athorp Tchs need to be open to improving. We all can be better! No judging, just making changes to help Ss! #miched
    • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Stop attaching the outcome to so much. Make it more about coaching & improvement rather than judgement. #miched
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    All meaningful work comes back to relationships. #MichEd
    • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:10 PM EST
      A1: Tch & admin have to first have trusting relationship & admin needs to really know that classroom. Then open minds = meaningful. #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: With every expectation there should be opportunity to help the teacher meet that expectation. #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: I had bi-weekly meetings with teachers to reinforce and debrief on lessons, goals and walkthroughs, so evals were just a culmin. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: Admin need to be present more than just for FORMAL observations and the autopsy at the end of the year #miched
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: include student feedback as well. #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    @blocht574 Our admin visits 7 scheduled times and one surprise visit, consistency yields growth. #MichED
    In reply to @sewardstephen, @blocht574
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Yes - admin needs to hear from Ss about what really happens. Love that you added asking parents too! #miched
    • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
      A1: different admin stop in randomly more than 2x a year. Talk to my Ss. Talk to parents. #MichED
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Yes! Fear makes Ts unwilling to try new things #miched
    • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Stop attaching the outcome to so much. Make it more about coaching & improvement rather than judgement. #miched
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    BAM- a commitment to immediate feedback is important. #MichEd
    • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
      A1: Have relevant timely and specific feedback for teachers ... Like right after observation instead of up to 30 days later #miched
  • NoviAcademics Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1 Peer observations as part of the process in which the only "data" shared with admin is when it occurred #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Nailed it! Checklists do not work. Teaching is way to complex to be observed using a checklist. Authentic data is key. #miched
    • ronhoutman Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
      A1: Evaluations should be focused more on coaching vs a 15 minute checklist of 'things I saw'. #MichED
  • jmessenger34 Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Very well stated. I really like that you included positive intent from both parties!! #miched
    • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:11 PM EST
      A1: Validated tools, trained observers, strength-based focus, TS involved in goal-setting, both parties presuming positive intent #miched
      • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:08 PM EST
        Q1: What are some ways to move evaluations away from compliance into meaningful feedback tools? #MichED
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: Also, if Ts don't have a meaningful say in the direction of the bldg, evals will be abt compliance than team growth. #miched
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  • AssignmentHelpN Jan 4 @ 8:15 PM EST
    17 for ’17: Experts on E-learning & EdTech Trends for 2017 https://t.co/I9aiwWWsrV #FLedchat #Gwinchat #innovateNJ #LDCchat #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:15 PM EST
    PD has to be personalized too much redundant or NOT NEEDED PD given and can't be sit and get anymore #michED
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Yes and focused on areas the teacher has identified as needing support. #MichEd
    • ronhoutman Jan 4 @ 8:12 PM EST
      A1: Evaluations should be focused more on coaching vs a 15 minute checklist of 'things I saw'. #MichED
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A1: allow Ts to set personal goals, not just district/school goals based on standardized testing or their "method of the year" #MichED
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Model the pursuit of feedback, response to feedback and honest self-reflection. #MichEd
    In reply to @sewardstephen
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    YES. You can always tell when you have lost the staff during professional development. #MichED
    In reply to @blocht574
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Talking evaluation for #miched tonight. Join us! @gregeding @craiggreshaw @brandimendham @AllysonApsey @JonMVoss
    In reply to @gregeding, @craiggreshaw, @brandimendham, @AllysonApsey, @JonMVoss
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    That is better than most: Many get one scheduled and one surprise with little feedback #michED
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu, @sewardstephen
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    worked with some Ts that were allowed to use losing weight as a goal. If they felt better they would teach better. #miched
    In reply to @MrsRosellRHS
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    SO TRUE! Feedback needs to be focused on what the teacher "can do, a strengths-based model. #miched
    • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
      A1: Also, if Ts don't have a meaningful say in the direction of the bldg, evals will be abt compliance than team growth. #miched
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:16 PM EST
    That demonstrates a commitment to improving instruction. #MichEd
    • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:14 PM EST
      @blocht574 Our admin visits 7 scheduled times and one surprise visit, consistency yields growth. #MichED
      In reply to @sewardstephen, @blocht574
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1: an important part of moving away from compliance is shared vision @petersenge #miched
    In reply to @petersenge
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
    I have so much fun setting my personal goals each year! #MichEd
    In reply to @MrsRosellRHS
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
    This one size fits all approach looses someone every time! #miched
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Getting warmed up? Question #2 on its way. #miched
  • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1 appreciated hearing what I did outside of evaluation day that was noteworthy- not just on that visit #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1: Need to get rid of SUPER TEACHER level (Highly effective) TOO many teachers want the A need a growth model for evals #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST
    the nice thing is the admin will tweet out pictures and promote your class while you're teaching. #MichED
    In reply to @MsNiehaus
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q2: What are some strategies to give teachers more agency in the observation and evaluation process? #MichED
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Couldn't agree more- set goals based on the learning needs of the students in your classes. #MichEd
    • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:15 PM EST
      A1: allow Ts to set personal goals, not just district/school goals based on standardized testing or their "method of the year" #MichED
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Tuning in a little late. Solo mom duty tonight! #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @gregeding, @craiggreshaw, @AllysonApsey, @JonMVoss
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    I love when I see Admin doing that! So much support! Support is so important! #MichEd
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Evaluations need to include teachers PROFESSION GROWTH Goals: WHERE do they want to be in 5 years? #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Opportunity with coaches or mentor teachers. #miched
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Yes! How can we develop a shared vision of solid instructional practice? #MichEd
    • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
      A1: an important part of moving away from compliance is shared vision @petersenge #miched
      In reply to @petersenge
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Ability to instantly see the walkthroughs and give their input in person or electronically. Also having a say in eval tool #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:19 PM EST
    What are coaches? Mentors are for new teachers right .... NOT happening in many places #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • OHara_HPS Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: Japanese lesson study -create lesson plan in collaborative setting - observe a colleague for effectiveness of plan, not teacher #miched
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Hi #miched! Just finishing up #teacherpowered chat & will be joining in!
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2 most Ts know their areas needing growth. Let them find the resources to foster that growth. So many options. Use them. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: Ts need ability to see the expectations in others: What about ADMINS modeling Lessons for teachers? #miched
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Good point- "pre-ponderence of the evidence" over time. #MichEd
    • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM EST
      A1 appreciated hearing what I did outside of evaluation day that was noteworthy- not just on that visit #miched
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    my director ALWAYS asks that #miched
    In reply to @blocht574
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: Think it's important Ts feel safe 2 invite admin in 2 see observe something new. Taking risks is important, so is safe environ #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
    instructional coaches. So for veteran teachers (if no coaches) allow them to have PLC time with other teachers. #miched
    In reply to @blocht574
  • massp Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Only on Q2, plenty of time to jump in. #MichEd
    • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Tuning in a little late. Solo mom duty tonight! #miched
      In reply to @tmaynard5, @gregeding, @craiggreshaw, @AllysonApsey, @JonMVoss
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A2: I have been lucky that behave had some pretty great mentors in my first 4 years... #MichED
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Safety=risk-taking. Very important. #miched
    • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
      A2: Think it's important Ts feel safe 2 invite admin in 2 see observe something new. Taking risks is important, so is safe environ #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Many want A's by compliance others just want to PASS the system by jumping through hoops #michED need growth eval model
    In reply to @MrsRosellRHS
  • PhysicsGuyTighe Jan 4 @ 8:21 PM EST
    mathematically about .02% percent of my teaching is evaluated. #miched
    In reply to @blocht574, @ProfGeorgeEdu, @sewardstephen
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: focus areas set by T, give Ts timely/relevant feedback to stimulate dialogue, some ownership of data piece (SLOs help w/this) #MichEd
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Q2: What are some strategies to give teachers more agency in the observation and evaluation process? #MichED
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: Make sure disc. happens around Tch goals & ways to achieve them. Allow Tchs time to observe others, discuss, process, instantly #miched
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: don't let the rubric define the feedback, start with growth-centered conversations on a human (not bureaucratic) level #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2) keep the feedback structured to allow for discussion. We meet with our admin the next day to talk about the class #MichED
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: Teachers need to know that there is a way to improve & a growth mindset culture for teachers - Eval as a tool for growth,not end #miched
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A:2 Clarify targets, be available for face to face conversation, and provide PD in areas of focus chosen be Ts. #MichEd
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Love that idea! Makes the process so much more meaningful when I have opp to share ideas of my future self #miched
    In reply to @blocht574
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: Or allow teachers to visit each others classrooms (Ts they feel safe with) and use the evaluation tool with each other. #miched
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  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I think you nailed this, inviting Admin to see what fun is happening is such a rewarding process for all parties... #MichEd
    • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
      A2: Think it's important Ts feel safe 2 invite admin in 2 see observe something new. Taking risks is important, so is safe environ #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Been there, done that! I was the “admin pet” LOL! #miched
    In reply to @blocht574
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
    yeah that is about it and what if I had a bad .02% ? #michED
    In reply to @PhysicsGuyTighe, @ProfGeorgeEdu, @sewardstephen
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
    or classroom learning labs where opportunity to learn from others becomes part of culture for all new or not #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17, @blocht574
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Love the evaluate each other...safety if between peers and helps to learn the tool for oneself! #miched
    • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM EST
      A2: Or allow teachers to visit each others classrooms (Ts they feel safe with) and use the evaluation tool with each other. #miched
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Ha! Great minds! I was typing nearly the same thing about learning labs! #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    We need more of this in @zeelandschools Yes, yes, yes! #miched
    In reply to @zeelandschools
    • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM EST
      or classroom learning labs where opportunity to learn from others becomes part of culture for all new or not #miched
      In reply to @AnnSmart17, @blocht574
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Q3 is on its way with a focus on using observations and evaluations for planning professional learning. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A2: Teachers need the opportunity to see others teach... Only profession where we don't see others in their practice #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    you learn a lot when you actually have to use it and look for what is on the eval. #miched
    In reply to @mcculloughmg
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    I miss having designated PLC time with other teachers in my building! It was so beneficial for eval. Process and student growth! #MichEd
    • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:20 PM EST
      instructional coaches. So for veteran teachers (if no coaches) allow them to have PLC time with other teachers. #miched
      In reply to @blocht574
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Really what we want for Ss right? A growth model important for all of us! #miched
    In reply to @mcculloughmg
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    great question. I'd say start with allowing Ts to have input on the success criteria #miched
    In reply to @massp
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2: Ts need to feel that we are being measured on metrics that are in our control. #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Q3: What are some ways we might use the evaluation process to plan individual & collective professional learning? #MichED
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    we use to do this. And for the ones with open-minds they actually learned a ton! #miched
    In reply to @MrsRosellRHS
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Which is why some of the best evaluations are provided by the students. #miched
    In reply to @PhysicsGuyTighe, @blocht574, @sewardstephen
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2: provide Ts opps to tape their classroom to self evaluate. Discuss results! #MichED
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Important to demonstrate you know your staff as people & not just their practice. #miched
    In reply to @bushjms
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Try to seek feedback from Ss. Most valued input. #miched
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu, @PhysicsGuyTighe, @blocht574, @sewardstephen
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3: Evaluation shows strengths and weaknesses shows where PD is needed and What PD that staff member can help others with #miched
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Hey #miched! Kelley-HS ELA and Leadership T from Rochester MI joining in late. Bedtime was crazy! #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3: Look at the aggragte data for all staff in a building or dept and plan PD to improve building, group needs. Allow individ PD 2 #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    its HUGE! Wish all schools had it. #miched
    In reply to @MsNiehaus
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3: allow more flexibility in choice. Not everyone needs to be in the same room, building, county to learn & grow. Network. #miched
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: Could be helpful to share common areas of growth so Ts can help ea other, learn together. Of course that safe environ critical #miched
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: Look for common areas of need. #miched
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: Most electronic tools should aggregate the bldg data to show common areas for growth, thus shaping building initiatives #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
      Q3: What are some ways we might use the evaluation process to plan individual & collective professional learning? #MichED
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3) focus on areas of improvement. Engagement, assessment, standards, writing, reading. Join chats on here to help and build a PLN #MichED
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A2: Would help if evaluators also allow Ts to observe them teach to see that they are able practitioners! Drs learn side by side #miched
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Did this for @NBPTS and for the school I was at in Chicago. Humbling, but powerful! #miched
    In reply to @MrsRosellRHS, @NBPTS
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: What he said. #miched
    • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:26 PM EST
      A3: Evaluation shows strengths and weaknesses shows where PD is needed and What PD that staff member can help others with #miched
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: Allow departments/grade levels to build consensus around areas of focus, or areas Ts would like training. #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: PD can't be one size fits all just like our classrooms. Need more choice & open to try new methods #MichED
  • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    might feel like our #miched chats! Growth. PLC.
    In reply to @brandimendham
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: Plan PD for learning/growth (not for what the district needs). ID Ts needs through eval (for needs AND presenters). #miched
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: use eval and obs. data to determine what Ts can help lead PD. If they already know the skill-no point for them to sit through PD #miched
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Joe from St. Joe, jumping in late, but better than never! #miched
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    yes!! We now co-teach ALL our workshops at my school. They are all interdisciplinary so we rep more subjects #miched
    In reply to @blocht574
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Agree! Love 2 see it driven by staff @zeelandschools has it happening in pockets Happy to help spread it! #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @zeelandschools, @zeelandschools
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3.2: At individual level evaluator should be able to identify areas for improvement & then recommend learning opps from this data #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:25 PM EST
      Q3: What are some ways we might use the evaluation process to plan individual & collective professional learning? #MichED
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Thanks for the validation! #michED
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A2: Ts want constructive feedback, not checklists, point systems or "gotcha". One of the most important things principals do. #miched
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: Look for natural opportunities to merge CSI process with results of eval data. #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    When we plan as the SI Team for PD we always try to build this in between buildings, departments. #MichED
    In reply to @AnnSmart17, @MsNiehaus
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Hey Joe! #miched
    In reply to @jrommel
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: Action or Learning walks are helpful to collect data on what is and is not happening in rooms for PD development ideas. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: Be open to individual goals - not "cookie cutter". Pair up Tchs w/ same goals. Send research, ideas to Tchs about their goals. #miched
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:30 PM EST
    YES!!!!! Choice. With Google Forms it's so easy to get input AND set up choice during PD. #miched
    In reply to @MrsRosellRHS
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:30 PM EST
    SO true. #miched
    • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:29 PM EST
      A2: Ts want constructive feedback, not checklists, point systems or "gotcha". One of the most important things principals do. #miched
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Jon from Zeeland. Assistant Supt. Long time listener, first time caller. #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A3: ID strengths of many Ts to lead PD at diff times. Don't just rely on same population every time. #MichED
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Hi Jon. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Danelle from Traverse City. Joining late due to getting kids in bed. #LifeOfAParent #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Welcome speaking Jon! #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Q4 coming in the next minute. Focused on FEEDBACK. #miched
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST
    So important. I told my P this year that admin needs to stop thinking like a class T & more like conference planner. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I like it! That is great advice. #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST
    that was me and why I am late too! #miched
    In reply to @brostromda
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Q4: What are the types of feedback you get OR might hope to get from your evaluator? #MichED
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    #miched - interested if any of you had thoughts from this article in Education Next related to this topic? https://t.co/KQ0lJarIo8
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    #miched - interested if any of you had thoughts from this article in Education Next related to this topic? https://t.co/DQMe1On5nn
  • ronhoutman Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A#?: If we, people that actually teach, know the what & how of eval-why don't people that make these rules ever ask us what's best? #MichED
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Feedback for teachers can happen all year, not just during evaluation time. Constant open and honest dialogue with evaluator. #miched
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I like this analogy--very insightful! #miched
    • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:32 PM EST
      So important. I told my P this year that admin needs to stop thinking like a class T & more like conference planner. #miched
      In reply to @tmaynard5
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    starting to see this more. Principals trying to make PD more conference like. #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris, @tmaynard5
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A3: Identify glaring areas of need, early on, and address them with support and strategies. #miched
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Principals should drop into classrooms, without doing formal evaluations multiple times for every formal evaluation. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4: MEANINGFUL feedback regularly: I liked... I noticed... You might want to try ... Then offers of help making a feedback loop! #miched
  • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Most teachers are harder on themselves- #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4: Strengths, areas of improvement, suggestions for improvement & resources for this improvement(human, electronic, networking etc #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A3: Have you all heard of Playdate? https://t.co/3YsmBmVBQg #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4) short-term and long-term growth based. Suggestions for in the now, and where to go moving forward. #MichED
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    We are! Ts see all our little mistakes and know that we can always do better ... Good to have a supportive ++ admin #miched
    In reply to @joannavrteaches
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    It takes more time to plan, but are some of the best loved PD days. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17, @tmaynard5
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4: positive first, then constructive along w/ some coaching such as,"have you thought of..or tried..." Ask Monday what works well #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4: feedback beyond the two time visits. Make Ts feel appreciated for what they do & supported in their goals. #MichED
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    SHOULD* happen... I'm constantly seeking feedback so I can better myself... #MichEd
    • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
      Feedback for teachers can happen all year, not just during evaluation time. Constant open and honest dialogue with evaluator. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Not to be cheesy, but this is one thing I appreciated about @gregeding Always asking questions about why & making me think! #miched
    • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
      Feedback for teachers can happen all year, not just during evaluation time. Constant open and honest dialogue with evaluator. #miched
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4: Hope 2 get honest constructive actionable feedback What do I keep doing, what should I consider doing different. #growthmindset #miched
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    1000 dollar question right there. Or if asked, why can't advice be put into action? Ts have spoken, time for legis. to act #miched
    • ronhoutman Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
      A#?: If we, people that actually teach, know the what & how of eval-why don't people that make these rules ever ask us what's best? #MichED
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
    check out the Playdate link I just shared. SO easy to do for a PD day. #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris
  • OHara_HPS Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4: Best feedback is based on real data and is usable. Best feedback encourages and supports reflection. #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4: resources for goals & weaknesses, including other Ts in bldg #MichED
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4: ways to achieve my personal & professional goals. Ways I can help the school mission & vision. Exciting opps #miched
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Had not! Looks interesting! Have you participated before? #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4: positive first, then constructive along w/ some coaching such as,"have you thought of..or tried..." Ask me what works well #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Boom #miched
    • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
      A4: ways to achieve my personal & professional goals. Ways I can help the school mission & vision. Exciting opps #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Feedback architecture that has helped may administrators (and teachers) organize their thinking surrounding feedback. #miched @massp
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    #preach. #miched
    • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:35 PM EST
      A4: feedback beyond the two time visits. Make Ts feel appreciated for what they do & supported in their goals. #MichED
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    yes. We held the one I linked in September. First in MI:) #miched
    In reply to @brandimendham
  • kithard Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4: Help me to identify 1 or 2 ways I can improve that will make the biggest difference and tell me how you can help me to get there #miched
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4 - Feedback that's insightful, meaningful, and actionable - tell me about the school vision and how I can move forward #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
      Q4: What are the types of feedback you get OR might hope to get from your evaluator? #MichED
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4: I'd love to see feedback built around objective, observational data, not subjective judgments tied to ratings and rankings #miched
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4: I strive to have feedback that is timely, strengths-based, focused, and considerate of zone of proximal development #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
      Q4: What are the types of feedback you get OR might hope to get from your evaluator? #MichED
  • PhysicsGuyTighe Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    To keep us running in circles and keep us from informing the public it's the politicians coming up w/ this stuff. #miched
    In reply to @ronhoutman
  • gregeding Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4: feedback that makes a difference for learning as opposed to feedback off a form. #MichEd
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4: I like to know what I'm doing well, I like to know what didn't go well and how to improve that. Provide resources and support. #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4: feedback needs to help us grow, can't be just to check off boxes on an evaluation #miched
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:38 PM EST
    If I gave 10 thoughts after an observation, I hope one really stuck for T. Never claimed to have all the answers, but asked good Qs #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4: Best feedback was from @KristinFrang & @MISDMath Tchs when after observing my clsrm they all said what they noticed in my room. #miched
    In reply to @KristinFrang, @MISDMath
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Evaluations often forget history: focus on a few lessons not the overall impact of a teacher over years of service #miched
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4: I love when I get validation, support or new resources. I'm a reader. Suggest books or people to follow on social media! #miched
  • crossbraining Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4 If they said, "I have the coolest thing to show you!" We should be doing this together, that is what athletic coaches do. #miched
  • matinga Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4: I'd hope that they would be interested in what real world stuff my students can do with what they learn in my class #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Q5 coming up. Let your voice be heard. #miched
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Is @zeelandschools the most represented district here? The power of @tmaynard5! #miched
    In reply to @zeelandschools, @tmaynard5
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4: It helps when Admins ask for feedback about their processes and how they can improve! (Shows respect and growth mindset) #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4: Feedback should come with the support needed to complete what is needed. Best with "I will do this with you...!" #miched
  • jrsowash Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    ThingLink is a great tool for the classroom. I will be attending to learn more! #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    I'm trying! We have great people - we need to get them visible! :) #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @zeelandschools
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    asking good Qs helps me process & plan my own growth. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4: Imp 2 ask Ts for reflection 1st before giving feedback We often know our areas to grow & appreciate opp to reflect be heard #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Q5: How might evaluation feedback be improved to better help change your teaching practice? #MichED
  • arinabokas Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    My Element - how do kids think of their passion? Discover this in January issue of @KidsStandard https://t.co/vCVYLvEu8B #memspachat #miched
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4.2: That said, this is hard work! I'm in yr 3 of using 5D & I have miles to go in my development. Evaluators MUST commit 2 process #miched
    • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A4: I strive to have feedback that is timely, strengths-based, focused, and considerate of zone of proximal development #miched
      • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM EST
        Q4: What are the types of feedback you get OR might hope to get from your evaluator? #MichED
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Always appreciate your nudge! #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @JonMVoss, @zeelandschools
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: Less sort and rank tool and MORE a Growth of a teacher tool... You improved in these areas from last year ... etc #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A4: I appreciate admin telling what they saw, maybe 1-2 suggest., but really ask questions. Make me think & justify! #miched @gregeding :)
    In reply to @gregeding
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Better late than never?!? #miched
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    I am my own worst critic. If I know what didn't work & you know I'm going to fix it. Laugh w/me & let me be =) #miched
    In reply to @athorp, @JonMVoss
  • OHara_HPS Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: Teachers and admins collaborate on lesson planning... they both own the success or failure of plan, reflect and try again. #miched
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: that P understands that I know my students & their needs better than anyone else at that point. Trust in me. #miched
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5 - Much as great Ts focus on the whole child, focus on whole T - don't let an evaluation tool dictate responses like a bad mad-lib #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
      Q5: How might evaluation feedback be improved to better help change your teaching practice? #MichED
  • kithard Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: Constructive feedback recognizes that this work involves partnership, guidance, empathy, and honesty. We all want to grow #miched
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: Focus on how to best use my strengths & give me a challenge. #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: We are great at CHS, but districts need to make sure that feedback is personalized to the T and based on their performance #MichED
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    1 round of "I noticed" while I just listened. Then 1 round of "I wonder" while I answered. #powerful #miched
    In reply to @brandimendham, @KristinFrang
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: process needs to be less pressure & focused on growth. Allow us to take risks w/out fear of losing jobs, $, etc #MichED
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: I thought eval was more powerful when I had to show evidence of meeting my goal (ex. Ss work/projects) #miched
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: make feedback specific to me, to my population & to fit the needs at that moment. #miched
  • gregeding Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: Evaluation feedback without a relationship is basically useless. Dev the relationship and change can be powerful. #MichEd
  • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: Tell me how I can grow and be there to support me. Help me find the books, conferences, PD I need to grow. #miched
  • diemerpatrick Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A4 any districts use student thoughts in teacher evaluation? I see teachers that admin love but students can't take and vice versa #miched
  • PhysicsGuyTighe Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5: more time for discussion. Less paperwork. #miched
  • matinga Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A2: allow teachers to give a 30-40min presentation to evaluator explaining their methods so innovation can be given a fair chance #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Questioning in authentic ways based on noticings is a powerful strategy and keeps the feedback away from assumptions and judgement. #miched
    • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
      A4: I appreciate admin telling what they saw, maybe 1-2 suggest., but really ask questions. Make me think & justify! #miched @gregeding :)
      In reply to @gregeding
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I like that, talk is often cheap - show me works well in many levels #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5: have it b timely, authentic and fully admit if unsure w/ content. Feedback should b honest & helpful. Should push your practice #miched
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Woo! Another @zeelandschools in the house! #miched Could have ad council here!
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @gregeding, @craiggreshaw, @AllysonApsey, @JonMVoss, @zeelandschools
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Appreciate the chance to learn from the great Ts in #miched on what improvements they would find valuable.
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
      Q5: How might evaluation feedback be improved to better help change your teaching practice? #MichED
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    it was easier for me to show how I met the goal rather than admin telling me. #miched
    In reply to @jrommel
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5: In every way?!? More timely, specific, aligned w/ data, suggest innovative practices, & most importantly-->more strengths-based #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:40 PM EST
      Q5: How might evaluation feedback be improved to better help change your teaching practice? #MichED
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5: Focus on what went right in the lesson. Give ten positives or non-threatening questions for every challenge. #miched
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    agree w/ your earlier comment that the Highly Effective label causes way more harm than good #MichED
    In reply to @blocht574
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    that's so true. Almost wonder if anonymous course Evans would help esp. at HS level. You have to do it in college! #miched
    In reply to @diemerpatrick
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Boom! Classroom learning lab right there! Let's do more!! Value for all involved! #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @KristinFrang
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5: Set small, realistic deadlines so that Tch is accountable & has support. @StephenBraunius would always hold me accountable! #miched
    In reply to @StephenBraunius
  • diemerpatrick Jan 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A5 admin shouldn't try to force 1 teaching style/idea on all teachers, sometimes the glove doesn't fit #miched
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    I self evaluated with Ss and parent surveys, then used this for portfolio but wasn't required, useful for my growth #miched
    In reply to @diemerpatrick
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Find it more helpful to focus on what you did right and what positive effect it has on learning. #miched
    • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:42 PM EST
      I am my own worst critic. If I know what didn't work & you know I'm going to fix it. Laugh w/me & let me be =) #miched
      In reply to @athorp, @JonMVoss
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    I was able to use student feedback in my mtng with admin. It was powerful! #MichEd
    • diemerpatrick Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
      A4 any districts use student thoughts in teacher evaluation? I see teachers that admin love but students can't take and vice versa #miched
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:46 PM EST
    So true! #miched
    In reply to @gregeding
  • sarahyogidds Jan 4 @ 8:47 PM EST
    any labels will really. #miched
    In reply to @MrCarlsonSHS, @blocht574
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Finial Question as our time wraps up. Get your fingers ready to type. #miched
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Best case we discuss the lesson and the context rather than just the snapshot you saw #miched
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Love this idea! Yes, let teachers talk. Often I needn't say much after that. #miched
    • matinga Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
      A2: allow teachers to give a 30-40min presentation to evaluator explaining their methods so innovation can be given a fair chance #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Great question - any ideas here? #miched #msmathchat #geomchat #flipclass
    • diemerpatrick Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
      A4 any districts use student thoughts in teacher evaluation? I see teachers that admin love but students can't take and vice versa #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Q6: If you could make a statement (about evaluation) to those creating statute, what might you say? #MichED
  • phhscience Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    From the eval please just give me feed back so I can improve as a techer #miched
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5: Maybe make evals more abt self-reflection? My goal as a T is to not have the Ss need me. Help Ts do this? #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5: After ID weakness, support w/resources & random check ins w/ T to see how it's going/what they still need. #MichED
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Interesting idea here #miched Thoughts? ... That @matinga - always thinking outside the box.
    In reply to @matinga
    • matinga Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM EST
      A2: allow teachers to give a 30-40min presentation to evaluator explaining their methods so innovation can be given a fair chance #miched
  • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5: I love the comment about this is all about relationships. Without a solid relationship, the feedback isn't going to be useful. #miched
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
    I would agree at HS level. I wonder if anonymous teacher evals like colleges do would be effective #miched
    In reply to @diemerpatrick
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: "Teachers are people too." #miched
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5: and please don't demean me, I am valuable. Evaluator is not in my classroom to tear it down. Some do anyway. #createsbitterness #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: Please revisit the Ball report and get rid of the highest level of teacher effectiveness to divisive #miched
  • polonerd Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    #miched #fledchat #suptchat #xplap Join us as we discuss when tech may NOT be the best tool in a 1:1 classroom. Tonight #1to1techat at 8 CT
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Those have been statistically proven invalid at college level...lots of research about this (had to help wife see poor use) #miched
    In reply to @KellCusmano, @diemerpatrick
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: You get what you measure. If you want growth, you better measure professional growth, not snapshots in time. #miched
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    great point. Student feedback is the most powerful form of feedback #miched
    In reply to @jrommel, @diemerpatrick
  • joannavrteaches Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Checking out- enjoy the last days of your well deserved break. I am proud to have #miched as my longtime PLN 🏆
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: Allow local control! Principals need time to be educational leaders, not more on their plate. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Mid & end of the yr Ss evals are the most helpful. (other times throughout school year too!) #miched
    In reply to @diemerpatrick, @jrommel
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A6: Teachers can do so much with TRUST. Trust us. #MichED
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    This is a great idea. Never thought to bring in my Ss survey results to discuss with admin. #miched
    In reply to @MsNiehaus
  • diemerpatrick Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    so there is no value in them or only a certain amount? #miched
    In reply to @mcculloughmg, @KellCusmano
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A6: Please allow for your effective Ts to be formally evaluated on a 2-3 yr cycle (or as needed). Let natural growth convos return. #miched
  • matinga Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5: peer evaluations from a respected colleagues rather than the present set up #miched
  • phhscience Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Stop giving out numbers without showing how to improve your teaching #miched
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: Allow districts to create evaluation tools that work for them, not for-profit evaluation tools lucky enough to get on the list #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6) Teachers and students are not DATA, we grow people, not test scores. #MichED
  • gregeding Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: not sure it matters. Great Ts are like the ice cube that floats to the top. They get through whatever you put in their way. #MichEd
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: Replace I/ME/E/HE system with I/Probationary/Professional #miched
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: Too many differences from district to district about evaluations! Need to respect teachers as TEACHERS not super robots #miched
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: do not make an eval punitive and numeric. Let Ts shape system. Realize principal burnout. Watch student growth emphasis. Scary #miched
  • MrsRosellRHS Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: make it possible to achieve highest level of effectiveness while still having areas to improve. Best Ts aren't perfect. #MichED
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Pay close attention to what Ss are doing, thinking, feeling tells so much abt learning environ. What T is doing matters much less #MichED
    • diemerpatrick Jan 4 @ 8:43 PM EST
      A4 any districts use student thoughts in teacher evaluation? I see teachers that admin love but students can't take and vice versa #miched
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Yes! Realized today that I LOVE information and I HATE data. #miched
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • sveit Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6 Focus on goals and ind.improvement plan rather than a rating. We're all striving to be better and to refine our skills. #miched
  • MrCarlsonSHS Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6: Drop highly effective label, as MCEE recommended. Stay away from increasing % based on state test scores. Fund PD for Ts & Admin #miched
    • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:48 PM EST
      Q6: If you could make a statement (about evaluation) to those creating statute, what might you say? #MichED
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    So true! Or from recently retired master teachers #miched
    • matinga Jan 4 @ 8:50 PM EST
      A5: peer evaluations from a respected colleagues rather than the present set up #miched
  • brandimendham Jan 4 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6: What's the 'why' behind the process? Really about growth? Then a strengths-based approach w emphasis on relationship & best prac #miched
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    One of my 2017 goals is to deviate from content-driven to creation-driven activities and lessons #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    It's be nice if that ice cube were in clean clear water. =) #miched
    In reply to @gregeding
  • EduGladiators Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    #EduGladiators BACK in 2 weeks! Can't wait? Join us MONDAY Jan 9 LIVE w/@BrendanFetters ▶️https://t.co/QVIuohC6FP #currichat #EdBeat #miched
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    This would only work anonymously so folks could be honest right? #miched
    In reply to @KellCusmano
  • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Teaching is so much more than test scores and spewing the newest eval lingo.We inspire.We research. We DO THIS.Ask us what works. #MichED
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    which is why I said I wonder. So if under those certain conditions. I do think stu voice is impt #miched
    In reply to @diemerpatrick, @mcculloughmg
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    it was really great to dissect with Admin! #MichEd I hope to do it again this year!
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Tweet of the night! #miched
    • gregeding Jan 4 @ 8:51 PM EST
      A6: not sure it matters. Great Ts are like the ice cube that floats to the top. They get through whatever you put in their way. #MichEd
  • KellCusmano Jan 4 @ 8:54 PM EST
    AMEN. #miched
    • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:53 PM EST
      Teaching is so much more than test scores and spewing the newest eval lingo.We inspire.We research. We DO THIS.Ask us what works. #MichED
  • blocht574 Jan 4 @ 8:54 PM EST
    So true! I don't know where admins find the time to help teachers grow under current system #michED need to focus on those in need
    • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:49 PM EST
      A6: Allow local control! Principals need time to be educational leaders, not more on their plate. #miched
  • jrommel Jan 4 @ 8:55 PM EST
    that's what #miched is for!
    In reply to @diemerpatrick
  • JonMVoss Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Proud I completed my first #MichEd chat while watching Goldbergs and Speechless with family. #GreatNight
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Such great answers to Q6. Hope someone is recording these for later use! :) #miched
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Wonder what #miched teachers think of this post, ties into tonight's chat https://t.co/l11A6UAT7m #Champion4Teachers
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Great chat tonight everyone! Anyone going to MACUL this year? #MichED
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Thanks for a great chat tonight! Happy New Year Everyone! #miched
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6: Establish an summative assessment/testing system that makes sense. #miched
  • sewardstephen Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    It has been a pleasure moderating #Miched chat this evening- THANK YOU! The topic of feedback & supporting T, S, & A is my passion! @massp
    In reply to @massp
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    glad to see you here! #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • tmaynard5 Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A6: Spend time in classrooms to feel, see, hear all that happens. It's not just numbers on papers or checklists. It's about Ss! #miched
  • gregeding Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    #miched happy 2017! Great start!
  • AllysonApsey Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Happy New Year all! Thanks for letting me jump in late! #miched
  • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    yessssss! Very excited! Do we have a #MichEd get together?
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • bushjms Jan 4 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Great chat tonight, #miched - thanks for moderating @sewardstephen
    In reply to @sewardstephen
  • RMWynkoop Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank you @sewardstephen and @massp for running the show tonight! Great conversation. #miched
    In reply to @sewardstephen, @massp
  • AnnSmart17 Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Good night #miched
  • crossbraining Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A6 to accept student made videos as evidence of student learning. #miched
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    I sure hope so! #MichEd
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu
  • MattSpence15 Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A6: Establish a summative assessment/testing system that makes sense. #miched
  • RMWynkoop Jan 4 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Follow those you learned with this evening to grow your #PLN and the community #MichED
  • mcculloughmg Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    A6: You get what you measure. If you want growth, you better measure professional growth, not snapshots in time. #miched
  • athorp Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    excellent post! #MICHED
    In reply to @AllysonApsey
  • MsNiehaus Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    so true! #MichEd
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • brostromda Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Night all! Thanks for the Wednesday night inspiration! I need this group when the going gets hard. :) #MichED
  • ProfGeorgeEdu Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    I feel it's worth a group picture if anything! #MichEd
    In reply to @brostromda
  • conrad_chris Jan 4 @ 8:59 PM EST
    I'll be at #macul17 I'm presenting Th abt Geogebra in the math classroom. You? #miched
    In reply to @ProfGeorgeEdu