#TeachWriting Archive

#TeachWriting chat is where educators talk about writing instruction. Every other Tuesday @ 9pm ET/8pm CT.

Tuesday March 6, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #TeachWriting, our bi-weekly chat about writing instruction! Our topic tonight is PICTURES and WRITING - so feel free to share random pics as part (or all) of your answer! Moderating tonight is co-founder and ne'er-do-well, @bkuhl2you!
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Let's start by introducing ourselves. Feel free to throw in a goofy picture as well, of whatever! (But be ready to explain it!) #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Last early share - The Hubble Site - tons of images here from the Hubble Space Telescope - the Deep Field is a good one . . . https://t.co/cPrElMxPc7 #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    (Bitmoji is a personalized, visual way to communicate - feel free to add those to our conversation! We're gettin' visual!) #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    I'm Ben Kuhlman, a 6th grade science and social studies teacher in the Chicago area. What's up? #teachwriting
  • timlriley Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello everyone #TeachWriting Tim in Omaha
  • JanelleHuber18 Mar 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    What I like about this is that the photos are like an open ended question. There is no wrong answer which is what many people struggle with when writing. It then allows them to really create #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Tonight's chat will follow a standard Q1/A1 format - questions will come from this account, and will begin with Q1, Q2, Q3, etc. Please begin your response with A1, A2, A3, etc. #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Getting warmed up . . . #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Jim from NJ. Theatre teacher, #youngplaywrights mentor & researcher. Happy to join my 1st #teachwriting chat!
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
    There's also lots of ways "in" for a picture - no obvious right answers, more ways to challenge thinking and get to surprising places. Lots of good things. Stick around - questions coming soon! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @JanelleHuber18
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome, Jim! Happy to have you here! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @jimdevivo
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
    The first question is coming up! #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
    BTW, that is a bizarre picture. I'm full of questions. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @jimdevivo
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome, Tim! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @timlriley
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Q1 - How are pictures - taking them and looking at them - related to writing? #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1 - For both, you're selecting a topic, choosing the limits of what to say and what not to say, and creating a product that represents a combination of your ideas and your subject. Lots of perspective in pictures. #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
    We have an island countertop in the kitchen that gets filled with bizarre things. That's Peeta Mellark's arm. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • timlriley Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1. We ask Ss to write using the 5 senses all the time #TeachWriting
  • SaraKiffe Mar 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: Pictures just like writing tell a story, have a voice, and have perspective. #teachwriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Of course! Because who else's arm would be on your island? (I'm assuming the rest of him is in the garbage disposal or something?) #TeachWriting
    In reply to @jimdevivo
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1. Pictures & writing are about multiple perspectives from the person taking/framing the picture to all the possible subjects within. #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    And students mostly see that once you explain it to them - do you have a way that you like to help kids get that idea? A picture you like to use? #TeachWriting
    In reply to @SaraKiffe
  • JanelleHuber18 Mar 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Images in writing are such a powerful way to help students learn. When writing or reading be able to visualize the information is really crucial to fully understanding #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
    I think the rest of him may be on a nightstand somewhere... with the painted arm attached. As it is. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Absolutely! Used to try to teach this explicitly, but it fell by the wayside because of other things. Sad, since it's such a big part of enjoying what you read. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @JanelleHuber18
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Our second question will arrive soon! #TeachWriting
  • Matt_Hanes_edu Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Hi everyone. Matt, 4/5 combo room I. CR, Iowa.#TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Nobody mentioned technology! That's a good thing, I think. Pictures and writing are both a product of technology, and strongly affected by the tools you use to create them. #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Q2 - What are some ways you already use pictures when you teach writing? #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Welcome, Matt! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @Matt_Hanes_edu
  • JanelleHuber18 Mar 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    When people don’t enjoy reading or struggle with literature I think it’s because this skill was never fully explored. Which is why it’s so important to find the joy in the written word #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2 - Here's a good one - https://t.co/OFTs427YS6 - each blob of light is a GALAXY, with BILLIONS of stars. Mind-blowing the scale of the universe. Now kids, write about that for a little while . . . #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
    . . . and so valuable when you can create those images in other people's minds. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @JanelleHuber18
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2. Picture prompts are one way I get #youngplaywrights started on a new idea. I also encourage writers to find pictures of people, settings, objects, whatever, that provide inspiration for their characters. #teachwriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2 - This site - https://t.co/QlZUELq23s - is a good way to use pictures to get kids thinking, talking, and writing (and hopefully asking lots of questions) about stuff that happens. OBSERVATIONS! Big stuff. #TeachWriting
  • Matt_Hanes_edu Mar 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A:1. I like to use illustrations to teach about descriptive writing. Having a picture to look at helps my students with adding details to their pieces.#TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Is there a book you really like to use for this, where the pictures are clearly and obviously an important part of the story? I'm thinking of picture books like ISH or the NO, DAVID series. . . #TeachWriting
    In reply to @SaraKiffe
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Or if you search WORDLESS PICTURE BOOKS you can find lists. There's a good one that I used to use when I taught immigration. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @SaraKiffe
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Our third question will be here soon! #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    This one is pretty big - https://t.co/Uh8N2MIqvf #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Q3 - What kinds of picture resources do you like for writing instruction? #TeachWriting
  • Matt_Hanes_edu Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A:2 I use story cubes as a rotation in my class. These are pictures on die that are used for group story telling. They are beneficial for the creative process. I will have groups record their stories as they are being created. They love it! #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A3 - I like pictures that take a little thinking, and challenge some expectations. I want them to have to talk it out, or write an initial impression and revise it later. It's a cool way to help them see the reward of digging deeper. #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A3. I don't have a "go-to" picture resource, so I'm curious to see what others say. However, I do recall using archival photos for a devised play with youth based on vaudeville. #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
    This idea is interesting. Are these cubes that you made, or is this like those storytelling dice with character, setting, etc? #TeachWriting
    In reply to @Matt_Hanes_edu
  • SaraKiffe Mar 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A3: Wordless picture books are a wonderful source of inspiration. The Mysteries of Harris Burdick are amazing and very inspiring. #teachwriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
    THE IMMIGRANT - Shaun Tan, I believe? #TeachWriting
    In reply to @SaraKiffe
  • KaizenaHQ Mar 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Hey #teachwriting! Popping by to say hello :)
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
    The fourth question is coming soon! We're halfway there! #TeachWriting
  • timlriley Mar 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3. I don’t know that I’ve ever used pictures #teachwriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Q4 - Are there specific pictures you like for instruction? Which ones? Why? #TeachWriting
  • benisvy_rachel Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2- One way to use pictures to teach writing is to have your students write about a picture that is meaningful to them. What is the story behind the picture? Why is it important to them? #TeachWriting
    In reply to @TeachWriting2
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 - I've already mentioned https://t.co/QlZUELq23s and https://t.co/cPrElMxPc7 and https://t.co/zxvlKTP2G7 , but there's also https://t.co/Mq04WH4ZBD and https://t.co/P0EB3cFdU9 and that's all I can think of at the moment. #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Our fifth question is nigh! Get ready! #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Q5 - How do you think your students think about pictures? How does that compare to the way you think about pictures? #TeachWriting
  • Matt_Hanes_edu Mar 6 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4: I like to use pictures of animals right now because that is what my students are into currently.#TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5 - Sorry, sort of a think-y question. I think kids think pictures are an expression of identity in a way that we don't. We don't take as many pictures of ourselves in as many different ways (I think). I think kids might also try to read text like pictures. . . #TeachWriting
  • _Wendy22_ Mar 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Yes! Perfect for all learners... especially ELLs who struggle to get started. This way they have a visual to help them share the 5 W's! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @benisvy_rachel, @bkuhl2you, @TeachWriting2
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5. Not sure I use pictures enough to answer this question, but will say that I sense sometimes that when I present something as inspiration for writing (like a picture), students have difficulty being creative. Default is analyzing for the "right" thing. #teachwriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5 - My students think it's the coolest thing in the world that you can google my name and find my picture. You can do that with most adults these days, I think. As if being on google is somehow special to them. . . #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Our sixth question is coming soon! #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q6 - What are the biggest drawbacks or problems with using pictures to teach writing? #TeachWriting
  • benisvy_rachel Mar 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A5- Pictures are much easier to take for my students than they were for me at their age. For me, pictures are a way to capture special moments or places. I think some students feel that way, but social media has changed the reasons that people take pictures. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @TeachWriting2
  • GHSTEAMchic Mar 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A3: Jumping in late and lurking, but love this resource to spark ideas and wanted to share: https://t.co/tChw2tzorz and this one: https://t.co/o1Uaqo04Mn #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    That's interesting - I know that I've used some pictures and had kids who were shy about trying to interpret it. I think sometimes simpler stuff works better for this - a kids book, a cartoon, other things - it might make them more comfortable "playing" #TeachWriting
    In reply to @jimdevivo
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Agree - most of my kids take pictures of themselves a lot with their chromebooks. Very few share those pics with others. Lots have Snapchat, though, and that's a different kind of picture altogether. All kinds of modifying going on there. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @benisvy_rachel, @TeachWriting2
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Or maybe give them a digital camera, have them take some pictures, then write about their pictures? Try to explain their crazy pics? Sorry, brainstorming here. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @jimdevivo
  • GHSTEAMchic Mar 6 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Have them make a meme about a topic you are learning about #teachwriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you, @jimdevivo
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Our seventh question is around the corner! #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    You're the first person to bring up memes! Had a kid argue with me two years ago about Neil deGrasse Tyson because of a meme. Always a mixed bag. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @jimdevivo
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q7 - Do you ever take pictures yourself to use for instruction? If you have, what did you do? If you haven’t, what might you try? #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Brainstorming is great. And I think you're on to something with students taking their own pictures then writing about them. When it is further removed, there is default need to find the "right" answer. Anything to break from that is worth a try! #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • GHSTEAMchic Mar 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
    true, but I bet it was a good conversation! and what an opportunity for claim/evidence/fact finding #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you, @jimdevivo
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A7 - I drove around and took pictures of things in our community for a community writing thing, then asked students to write about those places using my pictures. It sort of flopped. I'm not sure why, really. Maybe I took pictures of the wrong things? #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A7. Interesting idea. I've been taking a lot of nature pictures recently - very informal shots of interesting things I found out and about. I'd be curious to hear what those pictures inspire in others. #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A7 - Like the community swimming pool. The restaurant on the corner. The grocery store. Stuff like that. I thought it was enough places that kids would be able to connect. I ended up with a lot of uninspired, superficial stuff. (Probably felt too rushed) #TeachWriting
  • benisvy_rachel Mar 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A7- I have not taken pictures for instruction, but I would be interested in taking pictures of certain places or events and asking my students to tell a story about the picture or share how they relate to the picture. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @TeachWriting2
  • GHSTEAMchic Mar 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Do you have access to tech? Maybe ask them to use google earth to find pics from their community that they find important? #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A7. The theatre company where I work runs statewide youth poetry contest. One prompt was to write a "poem of place" about a specific local place. Those poems chosen for publication included a picture of the place, which I believe was taken by the author. #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I might try that now, actually, if we do this again. We're 1-1 chromebooks, so yes, we're tech-heavy. (Actually working on something with Google Earth and the Ancient Greeks, so maybe a good connection.) #TeachWriting
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Our eighth and final question is coming up! #TeachWriting
  • Matt_Hanes_edu Mar 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A7: I have not. I think it would be fun to take pics of the school common areas and have students reflect on a memory. #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
    It's possible - if I had planned it a little better, I would have sent the kids home with the camera to take pictures. I've done that with clubs, and had good results a few times. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @_Wendy22_
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Q8 - My buddy Ralph Fletcher and I were talking about how we use our phones these days to capture what we’re thinking. How are those pictures different from other pictures? #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4 - Has anyone else used the Blue Marble picture? First picture of the Earth from the moon? #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Wow, that took a long time to load. . . #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Well, he's not really my buddy. Bumped into him at an event and had a conversation about pictures and writing that inspired this chat. #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Maybe if we all tweet @FletcherRalph , he'll jump in. Had that happen once or twice . . .#TeachWriting
    In reply to @FletcherRalph
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  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Good idea, Marianne. I think next time, we'll do it that way. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @MimiMom8083
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A8. My "thinking photos" aren't often as nice, or fun, or memorable, as aesthetic pictures. Actually, I don't tend to look at "thinking photos" again. #TeachWriting
    • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
      Q8 - My buddy Ralph Fletcher and I were talking about how we use our phones these days to capture what we’re thinking. How are those pictures different from other pictures? #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:55 PM EST
    So, if I'm at a store, and I see a book I want to read, I take a picture of the cover. I see a cool poster, I might take a picture to remind myself to check it out. I see a book sitting on a teacher's desk, I might take a picture of that. It's a memory aid? #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I was thinking about that, too - I take a lot of pictures of things, and then forget that they're there. #TeachWriting
    In reply to @jimdevivo
  • benisvy_rachel Mar 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A8- The pictures we take to capture what we are thinking can be considered more casual. However, pictures to capture how you are thinking or feeling may have a story to be told. How could we use a picture that captures thoughts or feelings to teach writing? #TeachWriting
    In reply to @TeachWriting2
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A8 - I might also pull my phone out and take a picture of something I wrote on the board, or a note I wrote myself, or something like that. It helps me remember. Usually. #TeachWriting
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thank you so much for joining us tonight! We appreciate your time and attention - hope you enjoyed the conversation! #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I think these pictures can sometimes become individual writing prompts, or they can become part of some other activity. "Here are the pictures that were in my phone - what story do they tell?" #TeachWriting
    In reply to @benisvy_rachel, @TeachWriting2
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
    We do this every two weeks, and we could use some more guest moderators - feel free to sign up to lead one of these chats! Join us again in two weeks! #TeachWriting
  • bkuhl2you Mar 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Form for guest mods - please consider - https://t.co/8MqMFCSruG #TeachWriting
  • jimdevivo Mar 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
    I don't have my own classroom, so I do this often with notes we make on the board that might be needed again in a future class. Again, we often never use them... #TeachWriting
    In reply to @bkuhl2you
  • TeachWriting2 - Moderator Mar 6 @ 10:00 PM EST
    As always, the archive will follow shortly on this hashtag from @bkuhl2you - who is still looking for an alternative to storify, BTW - thanks so much and see you again soon! #TeachWriting