#ELLCHAT Archive

#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.

Monday November 19, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #ELLCHAT. Tonight we will be discussing Teaching ELLs with Limited or Interrupted Formal Education (SLIFE)
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome to #ELLCHAT -Tonight we will be discussing Teaching ELLs with Limited or Interrupted Formal Education (SLIFE)
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Hi Patricia! Just follow #ellchat & keep refreshing your browser. Also include the hashtag with your comments so we will see them If you answer Q1, use A1.
    In reply to @mspatriciasbisd, @judiehaynes
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome to #ELLCHAT Tonight we will be discussing Teaching ELLs with Limited or Interrupted Formal Education (SLIFE)
  • teacher2teacher Nov 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    T @ELL_Deb wants her Ss to shift their deficit mindset. What movie clips or other resources show how they might focus on what they CAN do? #ELLchat #KidsDeserveIt
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Q1) Please share your name and where and what you teach. #ellchat
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    A1: Shaeley, K12 ESL instructional coach from Central Iowa. I'm looking forward to tonight's #ELLChat on SLIFE.
  • EmilyGolightly3 Nov 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    My name is Emily and I am an ESL teacher in eastern North Carolina. #ELLCHAT
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    A1) Hi y'all. I'm Jan from Atl, Ga. Esol teacher of SLIFEs and newcomers. #Ellchat
  • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    A1: Jillea, Des Moines, Newcomer/Beginner ELLs mostly SLIFE #ELLCHAT
  • jaslyn4ESL Nov 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi! I’m Jaslyn K-5 ESL Teacher in NC. Excited about tonight’s chat. #ellchat
  • mspatriciasbisd Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1 #ELLCHAT Patricia Economides from Houston Texas
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1) Lynn Fuller. I teach High School ESL in Madison County, MS. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1 Good evening, colleagues! I started my tweet with A1 to Answer Q1 (the Question 1 that @judiehaynes just asked) I’m Karen Nemeth, co-host of #ELLCHAT and I am an author/consultant focusing on ELLs/DLLs in early childhood - from eastern PA
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    The #ELLCHAT stream is reserved for the weekly chat on Monday between 9 & 10 PM. Please save other tweets until after 10 PM
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1) Hello! I'm Carol Salva. I have taught elementary, middle & high school most recently. I'm a consultant now specializing in #SLIFE. Happy to be here! #ELLchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1: Justin the ELD Coordinator from Chiang Mai here. I do not have any experience with SLIFE students, but I want to take this time to read what others have to say to learn more. #ellchat
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1 Hello #ELLCHAT, Peitra in Massachusetts, K-5 ESL
  • dr_aquagirl Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Michelle Yzquierdo, Seidlitz Ed consultant and author of #Pathways2Greatness. Excited about this chat. #ellchat
  • Toppel_ELD Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1) Katie from Portland, OR. K-5 ELD Specialist #ellchat
  • NesbitAnthony Nov 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1: Hi everyone! I'm Anthony from NC. ESL Teacher K-12. #ELLCHAT
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1) Hi! I'm Judie Haynes, former ESL teacher and now focusing on writing. I'm co-moderator of #ELLCHAT.
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    During the chat, it’s important to begin every tweet with the A number corresponding to the Q number you are answering - this helps the many people who follow our chat at later times (and on time!) and… don’t for get to add #ELLCHAT
  • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A.1 Louise El Yaafouri, Refugee & Immigrant/ESL Consultant @ Refugee Classroom, Author (The Newcomer Teacher & The Newcomer Fieldbook), student advocate, lifelong learner. :) #ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: Hello #ellchat friends! Emily from Concord NC checking in!! I teach HS!! 💛
  • MsKTep Nov 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #ELLCHAT
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • MariaZampano Nov 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    @judiehaynes #ELLChat Hi! I’m Maria and I teach ESOL 7-12 in CT. This is an important topic for me because I want to learn how to best meet the needs of these students in the classroom.
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1) I'm Judie Haynes, formerly an elementary ESL teacher and currently focusing on writing. I'm co-moderator of #ellchat
  • AndreaHonigsfel Nov 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Wonderful morning with @ashleyinfirst @caudilal3 and @misterjohncox — after visiting their cotaught classrooms @wcpss educators participated in a debrief protocol - so much learning with @DubraskaStines @readysetcoteach @ashbpoole @GlendaHarrell8 @CorwinPress #coteachat #ELLChat
  • samanth61290094 Nov 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    My name is Samantha, I am studying to be an IS at a university in OH. #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • EALStories Nov 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1) I'm looking in from Edmonton, Alberta, where I teach adult #ELLs, many of whom are refugees who have had little, no, or interrupted formal education. #ellchat
  • ConorPWilliams Nov 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    #ELLChat
  • assignmenthelp Nov 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    How to Become a Chartered Public Accountant https://t.co/IdAEArLdf4 #coascd #eduality #EdVoice #ellchat #iechat #kinderchat
  • fleischmanm0 Nov 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Good evening a todos. 👋🏽 Mandy Fleischman, #ESL T in Hamilton, NJ. #ELLCHAT
  • j_ayalar Nov 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Hello #ellchat. I’m Johanna Ayala from Chapel Hill, NC. K-5 ESL Teacher.
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q2) How does your school district define students with limited or interrupted formal education? Does your district provide special programs for them? #ellchat
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1- Carlene (1-6 ELL teacher), reporting live from the city of 100 Hellos- Brooks 🇨🇦#ELLCHAT
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A2) Resource: How to Support ELLs with Interrupted Formal Education https://t.co/76ALBNrS2N #ellchat
  • mspatriciasbisd Nov 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Q2 #ELLCHAT in Texas the definition is very vague...
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    The #ELLCHAT stream is reserved for the weekly chat on Monday night between 9 & 10 PM. Please save other tweets until after 10 PM
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A2 I know some districts use “SIFE” and some use “SLIFE” But I don’t know how they make that determination …. do you know? #ELLCHAT
  • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A2: defined 2 yrs or more gap of formal education, special programs for MS and HS students #ELLCHAT
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2: My district doesn't have a formal definition, but at least Ss with interrupted education & typically several years behind skill wise. #ELLChat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2: No special programs put in place right now to identify #SLIFE but I take it upon myself to find out as much as I can to support our SLIFE Ss and provides the support they need in the classroom #ellchat
  • AuraRS Nov 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1) Aura, Hickory , NC. ESL teacher #ellchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    SLIFE adds the dimension of both "interrupted" and "limited" education. #ellchat
    • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A2 I know some districts use “SIFE” and some use “SLIFE” But I don’t know how they make that determination …. do you know? #ELLCHAT
  • MariaZampano Nov 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2 #ellchat We don’t have any formal definition but the state will be providing districts with more guidance and strategies. A committee has just compiled a handbook which is being reviewed by the state.
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2- students are assessed and coded (foreign born/refugee status) programing is created and scheduled per student, as every student has a unique situation #ELLCHAT
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2) The district where I work will define Ss as SLIFEs by parental interviews. If older than 13 and less than 6 years of formal ed., they are sent to my school. Will be placed in 7th grade, therefore the expectation is that Ss have 2 ys to be HS ready. #Ellchat
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2) Massachusetts SLIFE Definition. We create individualized programs, based on needs. #ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Hola chica!! Welcome! ✨💕 #ellchat
    In reply to @AuraRS
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I'm noticing many districts have either a vague (no formal definition) or specific (2+ years of interrupted education). Is there a flexible in-between? #ellchat
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2- and by programing I mean how much time/make up of instruction in a pull out scenario #ellchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2) So a 15 year old could be put in a class with 7th graders? #ellchat
    • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A2) The district where I work will define Ss as SLIFEs by parental interviews. If older than 13 and less than 6 years of formal ed., they are sent to my school. Will be placed in 7th grade, therefore the expectation is that Ss have 2 ys to be HS ready. #Ellchat
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2) Currently, we have just gotten the second wave of SLIFE students ever and pretty much only identify them through gathering transcripts. I wish we had a better method.... #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Every situation can be very different, so I can see how programming is specific to the individual. #ellchat
    In reply to @mspopel
  • NesbitAnthony Nov 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: My district does not have a specific designation for SLIFE/SIFE Ss within the realm of ELLs. The closest support system would be as "newcomers", but there are differences between SIFE and newcomer Ss. #ellchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Please be sure to add the #ellchat hashtag so that everyone can see your tweets.
    • MsKTep Nov 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A2) EL students receive ESL instruction and if they qualify they receive RTI services, but there is not a special program for students with limited or formal education.
      In reply to @judiehaynes
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Absolutely! And it’ll support and lower affective filter 🤷🏽‍♀️ #ellchat
    In reply to @jan_anglade
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Massachusetts published their guidelines in 2015. #ellchat
    In reply to @kruu_justin
  • j_ayalar Nov 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: The Global Student Support Center and ESL teachers work together to provide the necessary support #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    What systems do you think can be put into place to specifically define the needs for SIFE and newcomers? #ellchat
    In reply to @NesbitAnthony
  • fleischmanm0 Nov 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Actually, I’m not sure how Hamilton defines a SLIFE. Hoping to learn more from this chat and from this book study- #ELLCHAT
  • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: we use a parent interview to identify the gap - not always reliable, I do wish we had a bit more wiggle room in our definition #ELLCHAT
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Definitely! I have a group of very kiddos right now who just need some play/exploring/down time... #ellchat
    In reply to @kruu_justin
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: @usedgov Newcomer Tool Kit https://t.co/O5qJWzzBXu defines SIFE as 4th gr or higher, disruptions in ed #ELLChat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2) Ss will be in the newcomer school. 13 year old from Guatemala with 4 years of schooling sitting next to 17 y/old Congolese without schooling. Both placed on 7th grade. #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • jonesbeachbum Nov 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Jumping in late -Erika grades 6-8 teacher of ELs in Pa #ELLCHAT
  • Toppel_ELD Nov 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2) def of #SIFE in my district #ellchat
  • LNSmith0101 Nov 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Hello! I"m Lacrecia and I teach 2nd. 3rd and 4th gr ELs in GA. #ELLCHAT
  • AuraRS Nov 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #ELLChat agree same here. “Newcomers “ will be the closest support.
    • NesbitAnthony Nov 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A2: My district does not have a specific designation for SLIFE/SIFE Ss within the realm of ELLs. The closest support system would be as "newcomers", but there are differences between SIFE and newcomer Ss. #ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I. Need. This. Book!!!!!! 📚📖 #ellchat
    In reply to @fleischmanm0
  • jonesbeachbum Nov 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Do you have online programming you use or is it all live classes? #ELLChat
    In reply to @mspopel
  • smelaniemartins Nov 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1 joining in late, I’m Melanie and I teach high school ELD in MA. #Ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Glad you’re joining us, Erika! 😁 #ellchat
    In reply to @jonesbeachbum
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    What are some of the benefits / challenges for having students placed in the same class with varying ages? #ellchat
    In reply to @jan_anglade, @judiehaynes
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2) Very thorough definition. #ellchat
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I've never put anyone more than 2 grades back. it isn't allowed in our district and more than 1 is discouraged by the state. The exception is 17 yr olds who are 9th on paper but in the same building as their age. Has there been pushback to this? #ellchat
    In reply to @jan_anglade, @judiehaynes
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    That’s so interesting! #ellchat
    In reply to @HSeslteacher, @usedgov
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3) Resource: DeCapua, A. & Marshall, H. (2011). Breaking new ground: Teaching students with limited or interrupted formal education in U.S. secondary schools. https://t.co/vy5MouefTC /ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1542653054&sr=1-2&keywords=Helaine+Marshall #ellchat
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Massachusetts Dept Of Ed https://t.co/zbaT7yRz4Q #ellchat
    In reply to @jaslyn4ESL
  • MZ_Lucero Nov 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A1) Hello everyone my namds Kristina from San Diego, CA Eng Teacher supporting ELLs. Late to the chat but saw it and wanted to join in #ellchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q3) Please describe your SLIFE population and tell us what their challenges are, beyond academics, that they face in U.S. schools? #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    L1 assessments can be such a huge resource if they're available. It's a bit easier for us in Thailand as most of our student population is Thai. We have many other nationalities represented but the numbers are few and far between. #ellchat
    In reply to @NesbitAnthony
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Welcome! #ellchat
    • MZ_Lucero Nov 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
      A1) Hello everyone my namds Kristina from San Diego, CA Eng Teacher supporting ELLs. Late to the chat but saw it and wanted to join in #ellchat
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Great to see more resources for serving #SLIFE #ELLChat
    • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A3) Resource: DeCapua, A. & Marshall, H. (2011). Breaking new ground: Teaching students with limited or interrupted formal education in U.S. secondary schools. https://t.co/vy5MouefTC /ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1542653054&sr=1-2&keywords=Helaine+Marshall #ellchat
  • AuraRS Nov 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #ellchat Yes sometimes parents can’t even remember their kids birthdays. Or they will tell you a wrong grade they’ve completed. Very sad situation when parents have had interrupted education themselves.
    In reply to @jab2910
  • dashendric Nov 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: #SLIFE in Minnesota #ellchat
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2) It depends on school admin. Former admin. was sure to group students by age. Ss have same language profiency, though. #ellchat
    In reply to @kruu_justin, @judiehaynes
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Very interesting! It sounds beneficial to have a department focusing on the needs and families of all language learners. #ellchat
    In reply to @j_ayalar
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3) Resource: Boosting Achievement : Reaching Students with interrupted or minimal education by Carol Salva and Anna Matis https://t.co/nx66hIzAg9 #ellchat
  • dr_aquagirl Nov 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A#: The culture shock is significant for these kiddos. And throw in the fact that many don't know what 'school' even looks like. #ellchat
  • MZ_Lucero Nov 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2) 1st year teacher and still learning all the lingo and identifications. But will learn this 1st thing when we come back from break. #ellchat
  • Toppel_ELD Nov 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3) I have not yet had a SLIFE student personally. From my reading, I understand Ss can be dealing with a lot of challenges (emotional/psychological) based on living situations that prevented them from attending school. Ss may have a hard time trusting Ts/experience fear #ellchat
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3- we have had an increase in families from Eritrea with no formal schooling, as well as large pockets of students from Somalia, Djibouti, Syria, Ethiopia and Sudan who have had varying education/time spend in refugee camps #ELLCHAT
  • smelaniemartins Nov 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 Our SLIFE are Central Americans, many of whom have been taking care of themselves since a young age, so they struggle understanding why they need to follow school rules they see as arbitrary and ask for permission for simple things #Ellchat
  • j_ayalar Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: At the moment I don’t have SIFE students #ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    No kidding, THIS book is key to support your #SIFE Ss #ellchat 👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽 https://t.co/sx5KkotRg0
  • NesbitAnthony Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3. Biggest challenge is the double duty of having to learn English and content at the same time. Additionally, some have faced tremendous trauma. #ELLChat
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3) I have 1! Grew up in rural Brazil on a ranch. A pickup truck came “sometimes” to pick up the ranch kids for school. Dad didn’t realize son couldn’t read/write until they applied for passports. #ELLCHAT
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3) SLIFE may have difficulty transitioning to a culture where Ss are encouraged to work individually rather than collectively. #ellchat
  • jaslyn4ESL Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: I have some SLIFE Ss. Currently, the main hurdles they are facing are assimilation to American Schools and the overall American culture. #ellchat
  • dashendric Nov 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Resource: #WIDA Focus on #SLIFE bulletin #ellchat https://t.co/cqPdY1VeZs
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: Pt 1 - Varies. We've had refugees whose family was originally from South Sudan. Also some from Central American countries. #ELLChat
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3) District I work in identifies as SLIFEs Ss older than 13, but less than 6 ys of school. Reality is that there are students younger that are also Slifes. Besides academics, also have challenges related to school culture. #Ellchat
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3- a big challenge is the adjustment to school. Lots of things are so new and scary that we take for granted. Automatic flushing toilets, fire drills, new routines are all things that take getting used to. Fine motor skill practice and print awareness #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I was just thinking this. Learning language, content, and battling through possible trauma all while in a brand new country / culture. These kiddos are superhuman. #ellchat
    In reply to @NesbitAnthony
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3) Ss may have suffered trauma or violence in their home country or on their way to the U.S. #ellchat
  • smelaniemartins Nov 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3 Many of my SLIFE need to get up and walk around the room often, and they struggle with the lack of freedom they often encounter in our typical high school #Ellchat
  • EmilyGolightly3 Nov 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I am in the same boat...while I haven’t personally encountered this situation yet, I want to be knowledgeable about it for when the time arises. #ELLChat
    In reply to @Toppel_ELD
  • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: #ELLChat
    • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
      A3: Congolese, Karen, Eritrean, Central American, Karenni. Ss struggle with food, hygiene, expectations- cultural norms, diversity-language, ethnic, gender ... just to name a few things
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3) cont’d- Content/Language expectations are overwhelming. New culture, separated from family members, might not have traditional housing. #ELLCHAT
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    What are some ways to support the students facing these challenges? #ellchat
    In reply to @jaslyn4ESL
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3- are just some of the skills we take for granted that students will arrive with. Most of the students who have interrupted or no schooling are not L1 literate either or are the only speakers in the school #ellchat
  • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A.3 I write a lot about this in The Newcomer Student. SLIFE students may face non-academic challenges including adherance to a schedule, long periods of sitting, prioritization of tasks and the ability to negotiate stimulation. #ellchat #SLIFE
  • jonesbeachbum Nov 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A2 What does the special program at the ms level look like? #ellchat
    In reply to @jab2910
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Yes! I had a student tell me the other day he likes it better here bc we always have electricity! #ellchat
    In reply to @mspopel
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3) I work with SLIFEs from all around the world. Half of them are from Central America, while others are from anywhere from Congo and Rwanda to Burma, Syria and Nepal, etc.. #Ellchat
  • dashendric Nov 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Trauma is a big issue! Lots of #SLIFE students need a social worker meeting with them every week. #ellchat
    In reply to @NesbitAnthony
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3) Our community has #SLIFE Who are from many different parts of the world. Some grew up in refugee camps, so I will have moved around a lot with their parents. Some are coming from countries that are unsafe. They need to be included. #ELLchat
  • MsKTep Nov 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Before coming here, many of my students have told me that they never held, let alone read, a book before 😰 #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Excellent list! #ellchat
    • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      A.3 I write a lot about this in The Newcomer Student. SLIFE students may face non-academic challenges including adherance to a schedule, long periods of sitting, prioritization of tasks and the ability to negotiate stimulation. #ellchat #SLIFE
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3) SLIFEs I work with will also lack critical thinking skills, as well as working with technology such as computers. #Ellchat
  • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    @judiehaynes, yes! This is equally true of non-SLIFE refuge and immigrant students. #ellchat #SLIFE
    In reply to @judiehaynes, @judiehaynes
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3: Pt 2 - Challenges include acculturation - basics like hygiene expectations, school rules, making American friends, etc. #ELLChat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3: Right now I have several SLIFE students. My priority is to make all teachers aware NOT to lower the bar but to consciously employ strategies to support them. These students for the most part are grateful they’re in school and want to do their very best. #ellchat
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3) Our #SLIFE & their families tell us they need friends. The native born Ss created a One World Club that has been amazing for this. Also, we have @mspatriciasbisd who is our immigrant counselor & awesome! #ELLchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Q4) What strengths do your SLIFE bring to school? #ellchat
  • smelaniemartins Nov 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I see what you’re saying; I might just amend that in my experience, SLIFE DO have critical thinking skills, but not always exactly the kind we ask for in school. #ELLChat
    In reply to @jan_anglade
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Keep those Can-Do attitudes in focus to ensure the success of all students! #ellchat
    In reply to @emilyfranESL
  • dr_aquagirl Nov 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Yes! Individualism versus collectivism and competitive versus cooperative are two very significant cultural constructs our newcomer ELLs must comes to terms with! #NarrativesAndNorms #ellchat
    • MsKTep Nov 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
      Before coming here, many of my students have told me that they never held, let alone read, a book before 😰 #ellchat
      In reply to @judiehaynes
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    That will be the next question. Please save responses for then. #ellchat
    • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      What are some ways to support the students facing these challenges? #ellchat
      In reply to @jaslyn4ESL
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I have SO many students whose LEGAL birthdays are not the same as their ACTUAL birthday because of parents registering their births late. I have a lot of students who can't tell me when their birthdays are! #ellchat
    In reply to @AuraRS, @jab2910
  • mspatriciasbisd Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3 #ELLCHAT Our #SIFE #SLIFE are mainly from Central America and refugee students from Africa and Middle Eastern countries.
  • MZ_Lucero Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3) I work with students that cross the border regularly have gaps in their education. These gaps tend to make education seem forced especially when they fall farther behind. #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    We need to keep a Can-Do mentality and utilize students' strengths to enhance the skills in their repertoire. #ellchat
    In reply to @smelaniemartins, @jan_anglade
  • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: Ss are resilient- perseverance, risk-takers, different perspectives - ex: how does it snow in Iowa, there are no mountains? From a Nepali student #ELLChat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3) Resource: Custodio, B., & O’Loughin, J. (2017). Students with interrupted formal education: Bridging where they are and what they need. https://t.co/9rz42WMcxd #ellchat
  • j_ayalar Nov 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A3) Relationships! With Ts & w other Ss. They need lots of support. There are so many services available but it starts w trusting people. #ellchat
    • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      What are some ways to support the students facing these challenges? #ellchat
      In reply to @jaslyn4ESL
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I just went to a conference where a group of very courageous ELLs spoke to a room full of adults and each one said that! #ellchat
    In reply to @MsSalvac, @mspatriciasbisd
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4- incredible resiliency, an uncanny talent for oral language games if given the opportunity, a really high value of education #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Love the emphasis of embrace instead of using words like "tolerate". #ellchat
    In reply to @jaslyn4ESL
  • MsKTep Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4- They have many hidden talents such as knowing how to bake bread from scratch, how to raise and take care of animals, and how to catch fish to feed their family. #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4) SLIFEs bring with them tons of funds of knowledge. They may not have been in school, but they posses survival skills, as well as "street skills". They can do a lot with just a few resources. #Ellchat
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: Street smart, survival skills. One of my 1st SLIFE students had out-of-this-world recall about current events. Joined HS debate team but could barely read at the time. #ELLChat
  • mspatriciasbisd Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q4 #ELLCHAT ...resilience
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A3) Our population is CA boys who completed 6th grade but could not travel to the 2nd level of schooling or pay the uniform/book fee so they stopped their education.2 of the 3 are doing great in math.The third is doing great in language. It seems to depend on background. #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    The unique perspectives that diverse students bring to the classroom is extraordinary. #ellchat
    In reply to @jab2910
  • Toppel_ELD Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) Funds of knowledge!! #ellchat
    • MsKTep Nov 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
      A4- They have many hidden talents such as knowing how to bake bread from scratch, how to raise and take care of animals, and how to catch fish to feed their family. #ellchat
      In reply to @judiehaynes
  • NesbitAnthony Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4. SIFE/SLIFE Ss can bring diversity and a unique worldview to a classroom/school/district. They have lived in another part of the world and have experiences that can add so much value to the school culture and classroom. #ELLChat
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4- these students are so eager to share their experiences and knowledge ❤ #ellchat
  • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4- SLIFE students contribute to the academic tapestry in extraordinary ways! They offer unique funds of knowledge that may encompass problem solving skills, critical thinking capabilities, social intelligence- all critical 21st century assets! #ellchat #SLIFE
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) Grit, appreciation for education, a unique perspective, background the rest of us don't have, resilience... they have SO MUCH! #ELLchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) SLIFE have persevered o get to the U.S. They show determination and courage. #ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: Every. Single. Experience. They’ve. Had. Is. A. STRENGTH! Academic can always be learned. Language can always be acquired; but LIFE experiences are unique to each student and we’re to honor them as such. 🌍🙌🏽✨ #CultureMatters. #ellchat
  • fleischmanm0 Nov 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A3: SLIFES tend to have more social, emotional, and psychological needs than mainstream Ss. Such support is crucial for all Ss, esp. them! #ELLCHAT
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A3) My ESL classroom has been set in tables for years, but I had to change to rows for behavior management (too many boys). The behavior was fixed immediately. I think the SLIFE students associated rows with school and the tables felt like NOT school. #ellchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Love this Emily! #ellchat
    • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
      A4: Every. Single. Experience. They’ve. Had. Is. A. STRENGTH! Academic can always be learned. Language can always be acquired; but LIFE experiences are unique to each student and we’re to honor them as such. 🌍🙌🏽✨ #CultureMatters. #ellchat
  • kruu_justin Nov 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Words of wisdom right here. #ellchat
    • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
      A4: Every. Single. Experience. They’ve. Had. Is. A. STRENGTH! Academic can always be learned. Language can always be acquired; but LIFE experiences are unique to each student and we’re to honor them as such. 🌍🙌🏽✨ #CultureMatters. #ellchat
  • MZ_Lucero Nov 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4) oh so many! Resilient, risk takers, perspectives to share, their L1, willingness to learn, grow and curious about the world around them. A wealth of information to teach others #ellchat
  • dr_aquagirl Nov 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: Nothing like all these great responses about your beautiful kiddos to make me all warm and fuzzy inside! I hope these kids know how amazing they are! #ellchat
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4) ALL students can think critically. It's up to the teacher to present the material in a way that challenges them to do so. Lacking formal education does not mean you can't think critically. #ELLchat
  • AuraRS Nov 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    #ELLchat A5) A lot of respect to others especially adults.
    • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
      A4) Grit, appreciation for education, a unique perspective, background the rest of us don't have, resilience... they have SO MUCH! #ELLchat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Q5) What strategies do teachers of SLIFE need to use to teach these students. #ellchat
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    For years I have been able to graduate 17 yr olds b4 they turn 21. Any older is really hard. We allowed them to "test" out of subjects if Ss said they went to school but didn't have transcripts. Now we are offering credits for transcripts. The oldest I have atm is 16. #ellchat
    In reply to @dr_aquagirl
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4 resource: Keppler, L., Morales, L., Cortada, J., Austin, M. (2015). WIDA Focus On SLIFE: Students with interrupted or limited formal education. Retrieved from https://t.co/gJvUrI6Iau #ellchat
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Ummm 🙋🏽‍♀️ I second you, Carol!! #ellchat
    In reply to @MsSalvac
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    That's what I meant. USA schooling type of critical thinking. #ellchat
    In reply to @smelaniemartins
  • jab2910 Nov 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5: modeling, choral reading/speaking, singing, Kagan cooperative learning, create safe space- growth mindset #ELLChat
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5) Ts deserve examples of how to differentiate for students who are gaining literacy. It's also important to train students on how they can accelerate their ability to decode text. #ellchat
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5) I have had to be really, really organized and keep the students busy. Downtime is killer when they have so many distractions (phones, macbooks, etc) I also have to have a lot of tutors to help review materials. #ellchat
  • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5, part 1- Above all else, we can create an environment that is rooted in routine and predictability, which leads to safety. When students feel safe, they are better equipped to learn. #ellchat #SLIFE
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Preach! #ellchat
    • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
      A4: Every. Single. Experience. They’ve. Had. Is. A. STRENGTH! Academic can always be learned. Language can always be acquired; but LIFE experiences are unique to each student and we’re to honor them as such. 🌍🙌🏽✨ #CultureMatters. #ellchat
  • dgarafalo Nov 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Bridges to Academic Success for SIFE https://t.co/U7QNtOg8fZ #ellchat
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5) Provide background knowledge. Don't assume. Make connections of what they know to what they will learn. Constant comprehension checks. #Ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4 We don’t have “SLIFE” students in preK, but this resource fills in gaps of knowledge about school for families raising young children in a new country - to help whole family get into the groove of U.S. #earlyed https://t.co/CVFUhfkRkf #ELLCHAT
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    It's available on Kindle. #ellchat
    In reply to @mspopel, @judiehaynes
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5) I think SLIFEs will work better collectively. They come from cultures where cooperation is the norm. #ellchat
  • dr_aquagirl Nov 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
  • smelaniemartins Nov 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5 I think it’s especially important for teachers of SLIFE to always connect learning to real life, make it concrete and relevant. We also need endless patience. We need to realize that everything will take longer, we need to go slower. And that’s okay. #ellchat
  • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5, part 2. Other strategies for SLIFE: flexible seating, student led learning (with lots of scaffolds and supports), clear expectations and student-friendly CLOs, cooperative talk strategies, home-to-school journals...and engaging EL parents in meaningful ways! #ellchat
  • j_ayalar Nov 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5: To make Ss feel comfortable Ts need to be nurturing, understand that SLIFE have a lot of different strengths and they need time and support. As teachers, we may provide visuals, use mother language if possible, help to make connections with what they already know. #ellchat
  • AuraRS Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    #ellchat “Don’t assume” very important!!! Teachers need to know their clientele!
    • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
      A5) Provide background knowledge. Don't assume. Make connections of what they know to what they will learn. Constant comprehension checks. #Ellchat
  • NesbitAnthony Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5. ESL best practice strategies + patience + a big dose of love and cultural relativism =success for SIFE/SLIFE Ss.#ellchat
  • mspopel Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5- Patience. Flexibility. Get to know your students. Create flexible programing and make sure you teach them about what happens in your school (ex- bathrooms). Smile and be kind and patience. Plan for some down time too! #ellchat
  • jan_anglade Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Yes! Patience is the key. Making connections with our Ss will go a long way. #ELLCHAT
    In reply to @smelaniemartins
  • MZ_Lucero Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5) modeling, access to authentic input, examples of how and when to differentiate. #ellchat
  • lynnfuller Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    This is so true! We do all our teaching and prep as a group. I save the individual exam until after a LOT of practice to do a final check for understanding. They explain so much better to each other than I could to 13 kids at a time! #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Sorry, @mspopel. It's tough to get just one but we have shipped hundreds of these to Canada. But, it's available on Kindle. And my blog has lots of free #BoostingAchievement resources for #SLIFE. #ELLCHAT
    In reply to @mspopel, @judiehaynes, @mspopel
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: Any strategy employed that would highlight students’ strengths is a must! Empowering students identifying text they recognize is something I teach them from day one. Giving them control of their learning empowers them! #ellchat
  • MsSalvac Nov 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Thank you, Judie! We are so glad the book is in the hands of thousands of Ts now. #ellchat #SLIFE #SiFE
  • samanth61290094 Nov 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: Use cultural norms they would know to teach. Do not expect them to recognize something that is not a part of their culture #ellchat
    In reply to @judiehaynes
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: Tools for assessment to help determine where student skills are & where there are gaps, esp in math & reading. #ELLChat
  • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
    This is at the center of the strategies in the book I co-authored. Teaching to Strengths: Supporting Students Living with Trauma, Vioence & Chronic stress.https://t.co/tWrUaAKWgO #ellchat
    • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
      A5, part 1- Above all else, we can create an environment that is rooted in routine and predictability, which leads to safety. When students feel safe, they are better equipped to learn. #ellchat #SLIFE
  • fleischmanm0 Nov 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4: The ethnic diversity of SLIFES by itself is a major strength. These Ss are resilient, have strong ties w/ the family and community which tie into a strong sense of identity, and are eager to learn. #ELLCHAT
  • dr_aquagirl Nov 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5: And Ts need to be aware of the their own cultural norms and expectations so they can identify and name their own biases. This is often a very important and often overlooked component of teaching newcomers/SLIFE. #ellchat
  • dgarafalo Nov 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Teaching Refugees with Limited Formal Schooling https://t.co/uPCBTikVsT #ellchat
  • ESL_Adventures Nov 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A2: I can say I’ve seen a formal definition but as per WIDA levels, we differentiate instruction based on Ss needs- we also offer Sheltered instruction courses to frontload subject and academic specific vocab at my HS! Very fortunate #ELLChat
    • judiehaynes - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
      Q2) How does your school district define students with limited or interrupted formal education? Does your district provide special programs for them?
  • emilyfranESL Nov 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Assumption always gets in the way! 🤦🏽‍♀️ so true! Hinders SO much! #ellchat
    In reply to @jan_anglade
  • famouspeitra Nov 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5) I think it is important that we get to KNOW our SLIFE students, listen to their stories, & recognize/validate their experiences! #ellchat
  • jaslyn4ESL Nov 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A4: SLIFE Ss bring determination, passion and a strong desire to succeed. It all stems from survival & protecting what they value & possess. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Nov 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5 as you are considering ways to assess SLIFE students, you might like to include questions about home languages, literacy practices, cultural traditions to get to know the student beyond just their academic levels using this Head Start resource https://t.co/J9Q5KAOSRX #ELLCHAT
  • smelaniemartins Nov 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Absolutely! For some of our students, school may be the safest place they’ve had in a long time. I can tell how much my students need and appreciate a safe, welcoming, calm environment. #ellchat
    • ElYaafouriESL Nov 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
      A5, part 1- Above all else, we can create an environment that is rooted in routine and predictability, which leads to safety. When students feel safe, they are better equipped to learn. #ellchat #SLIFE
  • HSeslteacher Nov 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5: Also have to mention Language Experience Approach (LEA) & co-created texts based on Ss experiences @MsSalvac #BoostingAchievement #ELLChat