#425chat Archive
This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT
Thursday January 19, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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Jan 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
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BuddyTaylor2
Jan 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
Buddy Taylor retired football coach living in Wichita Ks
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CoachCigs
Jan 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
Mike Consiglio, Defensive Consultant, St. James Academy, Lenexa, KS
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
Zach Carlton - DC/DB's @ Palmer Ridge HS, CO
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
Ryan Thompson HC/DC Ashland-Greenwood Ashland, DE
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coachdboucher
Jan 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
David Boucher, OLB coach, Royal Valley, ks
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
Brandon Behnfeldt Delphos Jefferson HS OH
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
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In reply to @jherzet60
coachwash29
Jan 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
Julian Washington Duluth High School Linebackers coach
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
Josh Hadden. HC @ Aiken Middle School in Aiken, SC
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CoachBFri29
Jan 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
Brian Frierson DB Coach, Jack Britt High, Fayetteville NC
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jacob Gill DB's @ Springdale, HS (AR) Lover of Tite Dogs and Bullets X
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coachcoker02
Jan 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
Brian Coker, DC, Levelland HS, Levelland TX
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coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
Joseph Sam DC at Mansfield Legacy HS
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
Dusty Ortiz DC/LB Timber Creek, Keller TX
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CoachHesterSMHS
Jan 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
Chance Hester. LB Coach. Baton Rouge, LA.
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
@Def425chat
Mike Hancock - DC at Walnut Grove (Ga)
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CoachByrd_
Jan 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
Jamelle Byrd DC/LB'S Charlotte NC
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
Freezy Smalls, safeties, jack britt hs, Fayetteville,NC
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1 in two minutes! Keep introducing and following!
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seanasu2000
Jan 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
Sean Cockrell Head Football Coach. Valley View High School/ Jonesboro, Arkansas
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Hernandez2Coach
Jan 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
Jarrett Hernandez DC @ Bonner springs Ks
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runyan25
Jan 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
Kirk Runyan free agent coach just learnin, Tipton, IN
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thejwfoster3
Jan 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
John Foster Secondary Coach Smith County High School. Carthage, Tn
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: How you set up your front 6 vs 10 personnel? DL alignment and do you move your LBs at all? Vs 2x2...
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RecardoHines
Jan 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
Recardo Hines Asst. Coach/ Defensive Backs Biloxi High (MS)
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ColbryL
Jan 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
Colbry Lathan Assistant Football Coach Okolona High School Okolona, MS
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
@rmacblue
must be sleeping for not checkin in tonight!
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In reply to @rmacblue
y0su_
Jan 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
Joshua Claassen, Helsinki (Finland) Wolverines. Taking the year "off".
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
31 front, Strength away from back, LBs 20/40
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brrobinson208
Jan 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
Brandon Robinson d-line Jerome High School. Jerome, Idaho.
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
We set off any O tendency first. If neutral we will set off of to/away RB, Field, or QB throwing hand. Will bump LBs.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
Cody G Park City, UT Sundance Coach
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1) 31 front, Strength away from back, LBs 20/40
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1. DL - 5/3/2i/5. LBs at 50 on 5/2i side and 30 on 5/3 side.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1) 4-3 Over front.
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coachdboucher
Jan 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
5,3,1,5 away from RB and 30 LBs, Vs 3x1 we pull the rope and adjust 1 man plus with LBs. Vs pistol set strength to Field or scout
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
Denny Molzen HC Castro Valley CA
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CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
Troy Fetty OLB/TE Weir HS Weirton, WV
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: prefer to have a 3 & 2i, since we do move LB's it makes the A Gap read cleaner and gives us better numbers in pass game.
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 Game Plan 1st, TB 2nd, Field 3rd, QB Arm 4th...LBs stay true 90% of time
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CoachBFri29
Jan 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: Dpnds on gmeplan 4 wk, normally call the strength away from back. Our Buc lines up on # 2 widen weak bcker to play any nside rt
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1) we will move our 2 interior constantly...Toro/Aim, we also will shift presnap from time to time to back the O 5yds
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CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
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A1 like to adjust the front to the shade nose either opp. TB or QB depending on. Who is biggest threat
CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: 3/5 set to RB side or away from trips.
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1) we line up with 2Is and 5s on DL. Backers will be in B gap vs 2x2, vs 3x1- strength "pulls" our backers over a gap
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CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
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Scott Reid DL tomball TX.
CoachByrd_
Jan 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 Try to keep 6 in the box at all times we want to stop the run usually play 3 & 2i LB'S in 30's
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: 35-15, LBs gap over
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
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In reply to @ChuckBenda1
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
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In reply to @jhackett14
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
Great stuff y'all! Remember to use the
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for all Responses
Zach_Turner1
Jan 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
I see a lot of 2i adjustments. Why 2i over a 1 or shade?
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Flapattack92
Jan 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
Phillip Ketterman Temple TX. I coach 6man but love to learn. Sorry I'm late haha
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
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In reply to @brrobinson208
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
Q2: With your nose or weak tackle, do you have a nose shade on center or a 1 tech? Why?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
Great so far! Q2 is up!
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
A1 - we're 5,3,1,5 with strength away from RB, but we will play double 2's. We stem our DT's too.
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brrobinson208
Jan 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
1 leads to a ton of double teams from guard and center. 2i gives our man a good chance to get a 1v1
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In reply to @Zach_Turner1
Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
I believe it depends on your LB Alignments. If you have a LB's adjust you can make the center wrong with a 2i.
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In reply to @Zach_Turner1
coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
A1: strength depends on what they like to do. Play over front
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
We will play head up 2's in base and hop in some over/under stuff with a G/2i or a nose/shade depending on front call
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2 - we mix up our shade nose or 1 tech. My DL coach will change it up based on tendency or weaker OL
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coachcoker02
Jan 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: I prefer 2i. It prevents the guard from a free release on the LBs.
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CoachAltmanWM
Jan 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
@Def425chat
Rob Altman DL West Memphis AR
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brgredd
Jan 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
No 1 tech is perfect angle for a scoop block to the LB. 2i allows for more 1 on 1 battles
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2: we can do both but prefer the 2i because of the isolation with G usually, not as many double teams. We can tag it to mix it up
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brrobinson208
Jan 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
that too! I only speak for dline and our alignment
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In reply to @Coach_ZC, @Zach_Turner1
freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
A1 our dc likes this for us...like getting buck over number 2#425chat
Zach_Turner1
Jan 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
what do you mean by center wrong? In a gal scheme or zone scheme?
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CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2) we use both.. we use the shade to pressure the center.
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CoachAltmanWM
Jan 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
@Def425chat
a1: depends. Usually 5-3-1-5 with 3 away from rb
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2) We do both. I like giving the OL a lot of different looks to mess with rules!
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
my bad. Trying to multi task. Meant nose shade and a 2i....
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In reply to @CoachSReid
coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: we will mix it up based off what the offense wants to do
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brrobinson208
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2 try to avoid the 1 and stick with 2i just to avoid doubles and give our man best chance at holding his gap
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2 I personally do so hopefully he can get dbl in A, and stunts later with delayed blitz looks sweet😍
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
Q2: With your nose or weak tackle, do you have a nose shade on center or a 1 tech? Why?
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The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
2i lends itself to line movement. Versus spread (which is predominant in TX) you have to change the "B" gap & the cover downs.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
Q2: With your nose or weak tackle, do you have a nose shade on center or a 1 tech? Why?
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coachdboucher
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2) shade, hard for guard to reach backside so center stick, rep fast hands/ proper placement so he can beat playside and get dbl
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: we will mix it up, depends on who we're facing, have done some "tilt" tech where our N attacks the centers snapping hand/arm.
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
We play 2i. Feel we can move more from that and create what we want for LBs to be successful
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CoachAltmanWM
Jan 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
@Def425chat
a2: i like a shaded nose if i think the center is weak
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CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
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A2 I just like beating up in the guy snapping the football, wear him out and get bad snaps!
Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
@Def425chat
Like that. Think it keeps WLB a little cleaner as well.
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In reply to @freezysmalls, @Def425chat
The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Late to the party: Cody Alexander Author
https://t.co/dmSOP6hmqQ
CBs Coach @ Lovejoy HS (TX)
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Great stuff! Q3 in 2 minutes!
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2) we use a 2I on guard. In base scheme we hope to force ball to B gap. Also limits angles on down blocks by OGs
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LHorrocks44
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Logan Horrocks, Linebackers, Jerome High School, ID. A1) 2x2 my backers don't shift - keep 6 in the box to stop the run.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q3: What do your LBs read? Flow RB? Center and Guard? Guard and tackle? And how do you rep these keys?
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
How do you like the tilt NG? We've thought about doing it some.
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In reply to @Coach_ZC
CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
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A3 versus 3x1, gap up and read guards and fill gap on run read, 2x2, guards to RB flow
CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3) near guard to Flow simple trianlge drill.. 3 line 2 lbs 1 rb
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The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
A1: Here is how I line up to dbls. Str call is to the field to allow a cover down and to discourage RPOs.
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3) Backers read screws of OL helmet aligned over. OL to back. Against wing t teams ILB always key guards (we are wing t too)
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brgredd
Jan 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
As long as refs aren't calling illegal man downfield on RPO's 6 yds downfield we've switched from reading guards to more of RB flow
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
Ourswill mirror path of RB w/ 👀 progressing to OL for run scheme. Again, if we have a heavy tendency, we'll read that.
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CoachBFri29
Jan 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
Q3: Our guys are taught to read guards and tackles. c a open gap go clse it & find ball. rep thru team, looking for mre ideas also
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CoachByrd_
Jan 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
A2 play a shade to two back sets and a 2i to one back sets
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
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In reply to @freezysmalls, @Coach_JGill
coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: we make the reads as simple as possible so our players play as fast as possible. Depends on the week.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: OL that they align over. OL gives clearer picture than keying RB. OL only does so much in terms of blocking so easy to read.
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CoachByrd_
Jan 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3 linebackers read guard to flow simple rules....guard pull= follow.... no pull= read near back flow
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coachcoker02
Jan 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: LBs read the scheme to flow. We spend 10 minutes a day on reads and fits then tie it together in run fit period w/ DL
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coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: have to read the guys that can't lie
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
I think about it as a combo btwn the M and N. C works to N easy fill for M. C works away N is able to occupy both A's
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In reply to @Zach_Turner1
thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3 we read guards to flow. Will play RAT on 21 personel teams. Have cross read BF as gamelan before
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3 LBs are reading G feet to backfield. Our hybrid player is reading end man to backfield
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q3: What do your LBs read? Flow RB? Center and Guard? Guard and tackle? And how do you rep these keys?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
We'll run "Torch". Both T's in A, whoever C steps to wraps while opposit T continues to penetrate.
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
We have discussed how we should line up against 2TE sets. Our base was even (2Is, 5s and 2 9s) but looking at alternatives. Ideas?
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
love it, used it one week vs a C that had shakey snaps on film. Obviously takes a ton of reps to get good at it.
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In reply to @CoachM_Hancock
CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3) Guard to Back. DRILL: We use the trashcans for T,T,C...use live guards and RB. Rep pulls, zones, pass...match path/pace of RB
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
I hear some LBs are keying backfield flow or just the Fullback? Thoughts? I'm interested in knowing the reason behind this
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q3: What do your LBs read? Flow RB? Center and Guard? Guard and tackle? And how do you rep these keys?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4: Is your end a spill player or a contain player? Why?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
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In reply to @CoachSReid, @Coach_JGill, @freezysmalls
LHorrocks44
Jan 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3) triangle read = guard to guard to RB. Read high hat, base block (gap reps.), down block, or pull and go hard to flow.
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 cont we will work reading single OL to double to back 7 run fits in funnel drill against both guards working scheme
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 cont) The OL usually doesn't lie & can only do 4 things- pass set, pull, down block, some time of own block (zone,reach,fire)
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CoachAltmanWM
Jan 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
@Def425chat
q4: our end is a spill player because my boss told me thats what he is. Thats all the reason i needed ha ha
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
absolutely....I think getting guys in 4i's help that
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
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In reply to @CoachNahum60, @freezysmalls
Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
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_coachgibbslv
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
@Def425chat
I'm late to the party, but glad to be here. Maurice Gibbs DL Coach(Ends) Shadow Ridge HS Las Vegas
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
Thanks...a buddy of mine here in GA runs the tilt NG every snap but he also twists his DT & DE almost every snap too
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CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
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A4 spill on both sides, allows them to play fast whenever possible
CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4) Box(contain) our kids did it better than spill.
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
Has helped. Can pick off a puller as well. Will add rushers on pass downs.
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In reply to @CoachSReid, @Def425chat, @freezysmalls
CODY_GARDNER
Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
A2) 2i, unless center is a stud then 1. A3) RB to surface.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
Better late than never coach! Welcome!
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_coachgibbslv
Jan 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
@Def425chat
I'm late to the party, but glad to be here. Maurice Gibbs DL Coach(Ends) Shadow Ridge HS Las Vegas
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4) Spill.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4: Spill player, like to use him as a compressor of OT to keep our ILB clean and the wrong arm to spill to Safeties and ILBs.
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coachdboucher
Jan 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
A3) near back, play faster that way, have over hang on each side to overlap counter mistakes, Mirror drill.
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TeamSpiritSocks
Jan 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
Just stumbled across this! Glad I did. Michael Scott, DC Rice HS - Rice, TX and owner of Team Spirit Socks
https://t.co/oLraoLsNwi
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
A3: the two dudes in his gap, then to flow.
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 we spill and let safeties be aggressive. Run them to 12th man if needed. East West better than North/South
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brrobinson208
Jan 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 our ends are contain players to. With our alignments and opponents it makes more sense to have our ends in contain.
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4 we wrong arm a lot because safeties are "SUPPOSE" to be filling like a bat outta hell
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again...I reinterate the "SUPPOSE" lol
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4: Is your end a spill player or a contain player? Why?
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4) We spill. Get ball carrier going sideways. When we are 1 high OLBs force, 2 high technically safeties are force
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
We teach our DE to spill to OLB unless we stunt the OLB inside the DE. We'll stunt both and also swap their gaps
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CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
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question, how do you manipulate the offense to force them to throw their RPO and pick it off in the process? I want INTs!
coachcoker02
Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: our ends are spill players. Helps the LBs fit the run right. We used to contain but have improved run fits since the switch.
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y0su_
Jan 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
I like the reasoning a lot. Scheme to fit your strengths.
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In reply to @CoachFetty
CoachByrd_
Jan 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4 spill player we want to create a horizontal wall for three RB force him to bounce parallel..fastest way to the endzone is north
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coachdboucher
Jan 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
Spill, less chance for ball to get vertical, have leverage with overhang
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
great questions vs cheating RPO plays!
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In reply to @CoachSReid
freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
why rb for you guys? do your LBs do ok with that or is eye discipline a problem?
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In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
We noticed the same thing with our guys. Do you drill DE & OLB together on spill?
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In reply to @coachcoker02
coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: we have the ability to do both
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CoachCurran42
Jan 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
play man. Show C2. Have safety drive on #2 at snap. Have the LB their reading fly on run because he has no pass resp.
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In reply to @CoachSReid
The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
Depends on if he has the N or not. If the DE has a 3 he is holding his position working off the OT & boxing. If N, he is crashing!
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ritterisland
Jan 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
depends on personnel, but I like a stronger end to spill in, and let lbs clean up the mess
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q5: What type of personnel do you want for your ends? Athletic? Big run stoppers? What and why?
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Coach_V_
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4: end is a spill player.. have tried both near shoulder and spill.. spill technique is what I favor
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InBWeTrust
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
Brandon Blank HBC Bassick High School Bridgeport CT
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In reply to @Def425chat
coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
you have to understand who they are reading, then you can dictate what they do
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In reply to @CoachSReid
The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
Depends on if he has the N or not. If the DE has a 3 he is holding his position working off the OT & boxing. If N, he is crashing!
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4: Is your end a spill player or a contain player? Why?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
Freaks, War Daddy's, and Widow Makers. All others need not apply!
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5: the way we play it, you can have a variety of sizes/shapes. A nice mix of size and speed is critical to pass rush and wrong arm
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CoachCurran42
Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
exactly. I just try to disguise as much as I can with the safety.
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CoachBFri29
Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5 Im a big advocate for athletic ends, guys that can take on blockers as well as chase a play down from the backside
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hard 2 find
CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 - we switch our DE on offense strength. Our strongside DE is a run stopper & weakside DE is our more athletic edge type rusher
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CoachBFri29
Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 Im a big advocate for athletic ends, guys that can take on blockers as well as chase a play down from the backside
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hard 2 find
The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
A3: Box LBs read OGs 1st. If ZN, they read their anchor points (cross-face = belly key). Fold player reads the EMOL & fits off DE.
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Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q3: What do your LBs read? Flow RB? Center and Guard? Guard and tackle? And how do you rep these keys?
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5 we look for players that will do their job unselfishly. Looking the part is just a bonus
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5) want big, athletic, fast...we usually have 1or 2 of those qualities. Put our athletic DE to the field & other to the boundary
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freezysmalls
Jan 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 we have many good LBs that we are going to go with 2 stand up DEs that are strong for the line and agile for space
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a 2-4-5 lol
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q5: What type of personnel do you want for your ends? Athletic? Big run stoppers? What and why?
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Coach_ZC
Jan 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5: smart, athletic, and length.
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Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6: What drills have you found successful to improve you front 6? DL, LB, or both?
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The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
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@CoachSReid
Always to the field to allow the Sam to cover down and discourage field (space) RPOs.
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_coachgibbslv
Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5 Hybrid if poss. Violent with hands,thick enough to bang with the OL but fast enough to track ball carrier and rush the passer.
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CoachSReid
Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
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A5 tall and fast, basketball kids, helps with position to sideline tackles on stretch plays and quick game passing lanes
CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
A6) Anchor (SDE) Bigger Strong. Run stopper.. End(WDE) - Faster Pass rusher
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Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
You know I had to give ya a hard time coach! You got me going on these!
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rmacblue
Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
lol...at a clinic buddy!
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Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
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coachjsam
Jan 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5: athletes
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
anchor plays to the boundary coach?
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In reply to @CoachFetty
CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: Read and React drills. They are great EDDs and gives realistic view of their reads and breaks them down.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
DL read drill: Vert step/read ZN or block back. Use a fold drill for OLBs. Set up to cones & have them fold in & meet the RB.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6: What drills have you found successful to improve you front 6? DL, LB, or both?
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CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6) Run fits and force drills... ,make sure they know what their part of the big picture is.
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_coachgibbslv
Jan 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: Any drills that works to improve hands, hip, and feet explosiveness.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
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In reply to @Coach_JGill
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
hahaha thank you sir!
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In reply to @rmacblue
y0su_
Jan 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
formation or field? If formation, does this pose issues with no huddle?
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coachmolzen
Jan 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5) guys who are physical, have good technique and do their 1-11th. Have had success with both.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
I want guys that can set an edge but are athletic enough to stop & start. Must be able to play the QB on ZN Read if called.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q5: What type of personnel do you want for your ends? Athletic? Big run stoppers? What and why?
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yak1373
Jan 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
We do that too but this year we had our DL & DE during camp to work spill and fit.Our coaches liked slowing it down
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6) We will have a fit period with the front 6. Rapid fire the calls to see our fits with the cans. Breakdown at heel line.
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CoachFetty
Jan 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
Anchor to run strength usually to TE. mostly field if we want to do it that way. can flip it it getting a ton of FIB
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brrobinson208
Jan 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
A5 all my DL are interchangeable. Some weeks I want speed freaks on the edge and others I want big tanks to contain the edge.
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DLBlaxx
Jan 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
A3. Near guard to cross back. We force QB keep on Zone read so rep base fill to fallback
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Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q3: What do your LBs read? Flow RB? Center and Guard? Guard and tackle? And how do you rep these keys?
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thomps_03
Jan 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6 Hands Hands Hands. Eat oline and keep them off LBs and Safeties. Read React to blocks, work with LBs with clear cloudy read fits
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coachdboucher
Jan 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
A5)Anyone who is willing to play w/ relentless effort, and sacrifice(spill) for the greater good. Not the size of the dog.
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Def425chat
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Jan 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
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