#sblchat Archive


Wednesday December 19, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Rik in MA, co-moderating tonight's #sblchat with @garnet_hillman and @KatieBudrow also facilitates a Standards-Based Learning environment day by day with a focus on collaborative learning around HS Math.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Good evening and welcome to #sblchat! We are going back to the basics for tonight's discussion. Please start intros (name, role, location)
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    801 Katie, science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area. As always, happy to be moderating with the amazing @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW tonight! #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Hi! It’s Lee Ann from Kentucky. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Good evening Lee Ann! #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Happy Holiday Lee Ann! #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Happy Holidays to all on #sblchat - Ken O’Connor, author/consultant in Toronto.
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome Lee Ann! Always happy when you can join us. #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    I'm Garnet, an author and ed consultant from the Chicagoland area. Please to be co-moderating with my friends and colleagues @RoweRikW and @KatieBudrow! #sblchat
  • theedumacater Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jordan from North Central PA US and African American Studies teacher #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi Ken! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Greetings Jordan. #sblchat
    In reply to @theedumacater
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi Garnet. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @theedumacater
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Happy holidays Ken! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome Jordan! #sblchat
    In reply to @theedumacater
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    @Willmdunn Pleased to see you Will! #sblchat
  • LWPulley Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Lisa from Missouri, Instruction and EdTech Coach #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    We are too! #sblchat
    In reply to @theedumacater
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    You, too, Rik! Sitting by the 🎄 #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Happy you are here, Lisa! #sblchat
    In reply to @LWPulley
  • DanKos3 Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Dan from Wisconsin. I teach science using standards based learning in a traditional grading school. #sblchat
  • datiepriest Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello! Datie from Alabama #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Back, Lisa! #sblchat
    In reply to @LWPulley
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us Dan! #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Our tree is lit, but not me! #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi Datie! #sblchat
    In reply to @datiepriest
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Like this tweet if you'd like us to welcome you to tonight's #sblchat on Autonomy, Consistency, Fairness, and Challenges in a Standards-Based Learning environment. Tonight's our last one for 2018! Join us NOW!
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Dan! #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Thanks, Katie! Great to “see” everyone! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Datie! Happy you are here! #sblchat
    In reply to @datiepriest
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Ian - principaling on the pacific and looking forward to a couple more fun days after being closed today due to no power to our community! https://t.co/ON8EJdXbFG😇/ #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @datiepriest
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    We have six questions for your consideration tonight. Please use A1, A2, etc. in your answers and don't forget to add #sblchat!
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Glad you are here, Ian! The lack of power doesn't sound like fun ... #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • LME_Principal Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi Everyone! Gabe Hackett. Elementary Principal from Monticello, MN checking in. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Greetings Gabe! #sblchat
    In reply to @LME_Principal
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Good evening Gabe! #sblchat
    In reply to @LME_Principal
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Gabe! #sblchat
    In reply to @LME_Principal
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Everything was closed. There was an increase in anxiety....pretty much everything on our peninsula was closed ... and then the power returned. Whew! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • BradLatzke Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Brad checking in from Hong Kong while waiting to board fight back home to MN for the holiday. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Ready for #sblchat?
  • Willmdunn Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Will Dunn from Kansas. HS math. And at 3pm today I officially went on winter break. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 What is the purpose of grading? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1-Our HS Math learning environrment sees communication as a key purpose of grading. We communicate to parents, future educators, colleges, and others the proficiency levels of our Learners. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Happy break! #sblchat
    In reply to @Willmdunn
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Awesome. And happy you are here, Will! #sblchat
    In reply to @Willmdunn
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 The purpose of grading is to communicate where Ss are in relation to standards at a given moment in time. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Our Students still get one grade for each course. #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3, @garnet_hillman, @KatieBudrow
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 to provide a measurement.....to what end, depends....to what interpretation....depends, for whom..... parents? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 With a history of using grades as rewards and punishments, we need to be clear with parents and students that the purpose is solely communication of proficiency levels. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 To communicate individual learning at a given point of time. It should represent summative work, not the practice along the way. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 The primary purpose of grades (summary symbols on report cards) is to communicate student achievement to parents, students and whomever has a right to know about a student’s achievement. #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    After a day of exploring @ursulaleguin’s “Earthsea Revisioned” in critique of the hero’s journey, looking at “Pilgrim’s hands” in R&J I.v, rehearsing @McD_AlicePlays, & then distributing our school’s food drive donations, it’s time to turn in for an early night: sorry, #sblchat!
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 The purpose of classroom assessment (and, thus, our day-to-day grading if we do it) is to inform our instruction. #sblchat
  • datiepriest Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 The purpose of grading IMO is to communicate progress towards an identified goal, benchmark, etc. #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    What everyone not in edu thinks - rank ‘em. What it really is - to communicate proficiency of a skill, not behavior, to stakeholders. To show Ss where they can improve and where they are strong. #sblchat
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Intro Jim Goetz HS English teacher Omaha PS #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome back, Jim! #sblchat
    In reply to @jeg1126
  • LME_Principal Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1) I think the purpose of grading is to provide information about progress towards mastery of standards at any given moment. #sblchat
  • theedumacater Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: grades are the current way of illustrating what students know in the content area and skills #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome Jim! #sblchat
    In reply to @jeg1126
  • BradLatzke Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 In colloquial terms, "Where am I?" #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    RT Q1 What is the purpose of grading? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Pleased to welcome you, Brad! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 from my dads old journal, this topic has been around for awhile.... #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Hi Brad! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1) The purpose of grading is to assess S on their level of mastery on a subject. #sblchat
  • DrPeteSullivan Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1. Good to “see” everyone. At its core, grading should be embedded into the learning process. A tool to help students and teachers to monitor progress toward established goals (standards). #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 Using a GPS analogy, it’s an indication of “current location” toward an end goal. Why? To improve learning, ultimately. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome Pete. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Good evening and happy holidays Pete! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Yes! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    We use the latest summative assessment for each Standard. #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3, @garnet_hillman, @KatieBudrow
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I agree, but that is what I call scoring/marking and shows why it is important to distinguish marks/scores from grades (summary symbols on report cards) - they have different purposes!!!! #sblchat
    • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1 The purpose of classroom assessment (and, thus, our day-to-day grading if we do it) is to inform our instruction. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Hi Pete! Happy you are here! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan
  • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    It’s amazing how long this conversation (and understanding) has been going on, and how little change there has actually been. #traditionfail #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • Willmdunn Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1) The system used to tell a student where they started, where they are, where they should get to, and how to close the gap. It’s all about feedback. #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1 but is grading just about “where you are”? What about how you got there, or (as per the rules to the game of school) do we reward those with a rich schema thanks to home life & experiences and punish those without? #sblchat
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Karen checking in from Longmont CO to join this chat. Middle school language arts teacher. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    We have about 5-6 Standards per marking period. #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3, @garnet_hillman, @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Hi Karen. Welcome! #sblchat
    In reply to @kcribby
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Those are reporting variables, not grading variables. IMO grades are about achievement regardless of how you got there. #sblchat
    • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A1 but is grading just about “where you are”? What about how you got there, or (as per the rules to the game of school) do we reward those with a rich schema thanks to home life & experiences and punish those without? #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    With this distinction, the purpose of the grade, only at the very end of the year, is to summarize (at the summative point in time) and communicate to third parties. Until that point, the purpose of assessment is to inform instruction and learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    There has been change....just not wide scale until the social network empowered educators to see it wasn’t “just them” - efolios pulling even with numbers of report cards in Bc and likely soon to surpass them as “grades” can’t/won’t/don’t tell the learning journey #sblchat
    In reply to @mrdyche
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q2 What factors should be included in a grade? What should be left out and reported separately? #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Yay! Happy you are here, friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @kcribby
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    YES, YES, YES, #sblchat
    • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
      With this distinction, the purpose of the grade, only at the very end of the year, is to summarize (at the summative point in time) and communicate to third parties. Until that point, the purpose of assessment is to inform instruction and learning. #sblchat
      In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 Academic achievement (proficiency level with the standards) should be the only contributing factor in a grade. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2-Our Learners and their Parents know that our grades are purely the demonstrated proficiency levels of of learning. We communicate separately lateness, behaviors, perseverance, and challenges. #sblchat
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: purpose of grading to communicate but also sort. Many systems need sorting communication for classes, information, etc. I focus more on feedback over grading. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Sadly, agree. #sblchat
    • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
      It’s amazing how long this conversation (and understanding) has been going on, and how little change there has actually been. #traditionfail #sblchat
      In reply to @technolandy
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    What is included in the grade should be as purely as possible what it is you say you’re measuring. If it’s achievement on a standard, then nothing else. If it’s approaches to learning, then nothing else. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Let's use iteration in learning to give all Learners the opportunity to achieve success. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Include evidence of learning. Exclude behaviors, effort, creativity, attendance, timeliness, and bringing in Kleenex. :) #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Behaviors (process) as well as growth should be assessed and reported separately from the academic achievement. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Aaah, I'll agree that grading can be used to sort. But the bigger question is, should it be? :) #sblchat
    In reply to @kcribby
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I haven’t seen Q2 on #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    See, I TOLD you we agreed. 😏 #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 When academic achievement is combined with behavior and growth in, the grade loses meaning and becomes less accurate. Separate to clearly inform! #sblchat
  • theedumacater Dec 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: proficiency of the standards should be the only thing shown. Need to end compliance grading. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 What is included in the grade should be as purely as possible what it is you say you’re measuring. If it’s achievement on a standard, then nothing else. If it’s approaches to learning, then nothing else. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q2 What factors should be included in a grade? What should be left out and reported separately? #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2) From my subject and in accordance to the State of Neb: Reading, Writing, Speaking, and Multi Literacy. #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    That’s why I trust “grades” less and less - unless connected to a standard so that authentic work can be compared to it and everyone has goals to aim for and a map that they can measure themselves to (not just who has the best memorization skills & gets best nights sleep #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I might have baited you a little there. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @kcribby
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2-As crazy as it may sound, our grades don't record growth since we do not average their first attempt with their last. We simply overwrite with each subsequent last. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 Included - only achievement on standards; not included - behaviours, penalties, extra credit, bonus questions/points, attendance, group scores. #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
      RT Q2 What factors should be included in a grade? What should be left out and reported separately? #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 A bit of a tangent, but how do we help with the understanding that there isn’t “the summative?” It’s not an event. It’s a point in time at which we consider ALL evidence. And only evidence on what it is you’re measuring & reporting, excluding everything else. #sblchat
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A20 Things that I would like to see included are completion of task, adherence to deadlines and creativity #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Report behavior as a separate grade. Progress toward academic outcomes based on proficiency scales goes toward the grade. #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Yes! Along with neatness and work habits - focus on content not font (and time management as this is a skill that needs to be taught, not just be a presumed skill) #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    It is the difficulty with the focus on task over skill. Something I work with teachers on all the time! #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And we could follow a Summative with another Summative if feedback, relearning, and more Practice were needed. #sblchat
    • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A2 A bit of a tangent, but how do we help with the understanding that there isn’t “the summative?” It’s not an event. It’s a point in time at which we consider ALL evidence. And only evidence on what it is you’re measuring & reporting, excluding everything else. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q3 In standards based environments, there is a balance of autonomy and consistency. What practices would be essential for consistency amongst teachers and classrooms? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3-Our HS Math Professional Learning Community (PLC) for #MHSAlgebra1 is consistent with Summative Assessments "What" and our pacing. However, our teachers have the autonomy in "How" the learning takes place. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 First and foremost, standards based classrooms must be criterion referenced and evidence based. Students and teachers must understand the standards (where they are headed) in order to determine how to get there and by what means they will show their learning. #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Dec 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Come together with the band and write the proficiency scales and standards. Then practice scoring student work. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3 In standards based environments, there is a balance of autonomy and consistency. What practices would be essential for consistency amongst teachers and classrooms? #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Dec 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Time to board. Keep up the great work! Happy holidays everyone! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Let's push for consistency in learning attempts... #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Diving in to the standards together and really exploring what they are asking of students. I also think looking at evidence of mastery would be really helpful. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Grades must be based upon summative data only - the most recent and/or consistent proficiency levels with the standards. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Safe travels Brad! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Consistency is interrater reliability, largely. My favorite way to support it is to bring a team together with examples of Ss work and discuss our opinions of ratings on standards. Where there is inconsistency, we calibrate and document. #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Just had a discussion with a newish teacher who was asking how I would arrange my “grade book” - I admitted she’ll hate my response: learning outcomes/big Qs on top and then how Ss showed their learning below - and not everyone has to do it the same way #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
      A2 Included - only achievement on standards; not included - behaviours, penalties, extra credit, bonus questions/points, attendance, group scores. #sblchat
      • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
        RT Q2 What factors should be included in a grade? What should be left out and reported separately? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Consistency comes from clarity and shared understanding of performance standards/levels and agreed upon guidelines/procedures so their are shared grading practices, not individual, idiosyncratic practices. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3 In standards based environments, there is a balance of autonomy and consistency. What practices would be essential for consistency amongst teachers and classrooms? #sblchat
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2 continued: what should not be included: a one shot assessment for comprehension/standard mastery with one modality, lack of student choice and voice. #sblchat
  • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: Consistency evolves from calibrating acceptable evidence of understanding, rather than collaborating on common assessment methods. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3 In standards based environments, there is a balance of autonomy and consistency. What practices would be essential for consistency amongst teachers and classrooms? #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3 and it’s important that we do this calibration from time to time on what matters most to prevent “coder drift”—a term from rating scale research. #sblchat
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3) I have found that a T team created rubric is the best and most consistent to assess S work. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    RT Q3 In standards based environments, there is a balance of autonomy and consistency. What practices would be essential for consistency amongst teachers and classrooms? #sblchat
  • LME_Principal Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3) Common learning targets, common assessments, and critical instructional conversations within PLCs to help each student succeed. #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    By focusing on the personal growth and learning (in this case for a boy with some absence issues and not being able to complete some tasks the same as others) “bonus points” et al aren’t necessary - showing learning is what matters #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Not sure I agree; if you don’t have shared practices/procedures you can’t have consistency. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Don't forget to follow all the educators you are chatting with tonight. Grow your PLN! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Have you read On Your Mark by @tguskey? There's a lovely section about the six ways grading is used currently. It's fascinating to then think about how it should be used. #sblchat
    In reply to @kcribby, @tguskey
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    YES, YES, YES, a thousand times yes. #sblchat
    • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
      A3: Consistency evolves from calibrating acceptable evidence of understanding, rather than collaborating on common assessment methods. #sblchat
      • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
        Q3 In standards based environments, there is a balance of autonomy and consistency. What practices would be essential for consistency amongst teachers and classrooms? #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Yesss! #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    And now that I write this, I feel like we have talked about this particular book and section before ... #sblchat
    In reply to @kcribby, @tguskey
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3-Our HS Math #MHSAlgebra1 Learners demonstrated their proficiency today on a Summative. We now know how to cycle into the new Unit with interleaving and #RetrievalPractice from the prior Unit. #sblchat
  • Willmdunn Dec 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3) I’ve been developing SBL in my room for a year and half now. Recently, others have shown interest. In my department we’ll begin collaboratively building targets, assessments, and rubrics for classes. I’m looking VERY forward to it. #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3 AFL strategies: Clear learning intentions Exemplars & Standards (to look at) Good Qs (by T & Ss) Descriptive feedback (timely) Peer and self feedback Practice and reflections #sblchat
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: We need to care about how all of our Ss have access to all learning. Our consistency should be in giving access to all Ss. #culture #attitudes #empathy #Studentsovercontent #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q4 How can standards based practices be introduced and explained to students and parents? #sblchat
  • datiepriest Dec 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3. In order to establish consistency among Ts, there should be intentionality around collaboration, engagement, and reflection. Ts have to be immersed in purposeful professional learning and supported. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4-The Core Practices of our Standards-Based Learning is shared with Parents and our Learners in an ongoing manner. We focus on the perseverance for learning, the relevance, and the application. This shift takes times but is so worth it. #sblchat #WorthItAll
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 When introducing standards based grading to students and parents, the conversation must center on learning. The reason we are educators is because we care about students and their learning, so begin the conversation there and explain why you are making the change. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Love this so much! #sblchat #leadinclusion @LeadInclusion
    In reply to @kcribby, @LeadInclusion
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 Explain how standards-based practices develops students as learners, not grade grubbers and results in assessment and grading that is accurate, consistent and meaningful. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 Start with the why (thanks @simonsinek). Then talk about how it works (and what it looks like). Even better, have former students explain the why and how. #sblchat
  • LME_Principal Dec 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4) We put together an informational webcast for parents. We also held the progress reports until conferences so we could go through all questions and concerns with our families face to face. Start slow! #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 Can I be honest that it’s a little disappointing that we still have to? 🤭Okay—I vented. Now I’ll be more positive and answer the question... #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DanKos3 Dec 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Clear, simple terms in a variety of media. I use a video I made explaining how/what it is, send an email, in person convos, another video grading an assignment with the rubrics/scales. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Sometimes we just need to vent... ;) #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    RT Q4 How can standards based practices be introduced and explained to students and parents? #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4 I loved one of my kids teachers who had “open houses” during the day so the class could model their learning for parents - and explain why they do what they did #sblchat
  • datiepriest Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4. There can be a visual of what traditional vs SBL practices look like provided and used as a reference point, open dialogue, feedback and inquiry, time for processing, etc #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    This is very well said! #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A4 Explain how standards-based practices develops students as learners, not grade grubbers and results in assessment and grading that is accurate, consistent and meaningful. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Thanks, Garnet. 🤗 #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • Willmdunn Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4) I’d like to know! Being the only SBG teacher in my school, I’m seen as the odd one out; an anomaly to be disregarded at best, and criticized/undermined at worst. It’s been rough and I’ve grown weary of the toll. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    It makes me so sad to read about places where standards-based has been poorly implemented and is creating anger and resistance. That is happening in a really bad way in Bermuda as we chat. #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung, @garnet_hillman
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4) Having clear objs and learning goals with exemplars and other examples of the process. Other materials may include hand-helds and packets with schedules and standards to be met. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    LOVE THIS 👏 #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I have been following that as well. Roll out and implementation are so important for success. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @leeannjung
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Stand your ground, Will. Your Learners will thank you. Their futures will thank you. Some traditions should be done away with like old grading... #sblchat
    In reply to @Willmdunn
  • theedumacater Dec 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: I start with the Why and then explain how it works. Just made an informative video for parents yesterday. I’ve had little to know push back bc most students seem to do better now that parents have a better understanding when looking at the gb #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4 Know your community of parents and students. Know what you’re likely to face as criticisms and be prepared to be proactive. As soon as it becomes reactive, you’re in trouble. Don’t start with report card reform! Start with assessment literacy. #sblchat
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: build the agency with Ss, and the parents will follow.If we show our Ss we care about how they learn and that learning targets can be reached in different modalities and timeframes, honor Ss' approach, they will lead their parents in understanding. It's a proces. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Wonderful!!! #sblchat We’d love to see the video!
    In reply to @theedumacater
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Q5 How can setbacks and failure in the classroom be used to ensure a productive response in students? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6 Show students you are human - share your failures and how you overcame them. Model what you want from your students. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5-Our HS Math Learners experience setbacks, failures, and challenges on a daily basis. The perseverance, grit, feedback, and trust in the environment makes the learning more relevant, appreciated, and retained. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    @Willmdunn We had Learners this week thanking us for the interleaving, the #RetrievalPractice, the REDOs, and the perseverance in learning that are creating a heightened Confidence. #sblchat #WorthItAll
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4) Explaining learning the process and assessing the process and the end-product creates deeper learning over achievement of a grade. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A6 Let students know it is ok to fail, but it’s not ok to leave it there. Everyone can find success with their own path. #sblchat
  • tguskey Dec 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    You've got it Jordan. Start with "Why." The "What" and "How" will then come almost naturally! #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 it shows that learning is not a linear process, there are different rates and speeds for learning for a reason - and a strong learning community will help identify strategies to overcome any barriers and that it’s not “do it the first time or not at all”! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Yes, perseverance and confidence. #sblchat
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5) FAIL = First Attempt In Learning I have yet to meet anyone that has learned by always succeeding. #sblchat
  • JumalAhmad Dec 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Hello Iam Jumal Ahmad from Indonesia #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Look who just snuck in to #sblchat!!!
    In reply to @tguskey
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    RT Q5 How can setbacks and failure in the classroom be used to ensure a productive response in students? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Welcome to yesterday on #sblchat
    In reply to @JumalAhmad
  • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4: I spend two class periods breaking it down with my Ss, then they compose an informative email to their parents/guardians explaining it (CC’d to me so I can catch any misconceptions & reach out to Ps). #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
      RT Q4 How can standards based practices be introduced and explained to students and parents? #sblchat
  • LME_Principal Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5) Teaching growth mindset and grit to all of our students is vital! True learning isn’t possible without failure and problem solving. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    This is cooooool. #sblchat
    • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
      A4: I spend two class periods breaking it down with my Ss, then they compose an informative email to their parents/guardians explaining it (CC’d to me so I can catch any misconceptions & reach out to Ps). #sblchat
      • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
        RT Q4 How can standards based practices be introduced and explained to students and parents? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    We all benefit from your wisdom - please share. #sblchat
    • tguskey Dec 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
      Haha! Usually here! Just learn most by listening (or reading!).
      In reply to @kenoc7
  • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: Struggle doesn’t mean failure. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5 Yes to all of the answers so far! For Ss who are particularly discouraged or are significantly behind, setting very small steps to build a strong sense of efficacy through successes is necessary. Think a staircase with lots of tiny steps. Still goes to the same place. #sblchat
  • JumalAhmad Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Reflective Thinking + Reflective Practice = Magic #sblchat
  • tguskey Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    See the article in the most recent issue (December 2018) of Educational Researcher by Marcus Crede on What we Know and What We Don't Know about grit! #sblchat
  • walkerjd40 Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    #sblchat. Coming in late tonight. Sorry I’m behind!!
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    I'm challenged daily alongside our Learners and we develop a trust for learning that pulls us through our "Strategic Confusion" to aha-moments. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Q6 When moving to effective grading practices, what can school leaders do to provide support? #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    YES!!! This! We grow through our struggles. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrdyche
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    = Pink - mastery - seeing yourself getting better - as one of three keys to intrinsic motivation. #sblchat
    • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
      A5 Yes to all of the answers so far! For Ss who are particularly discouraged or are significantly behind, setting very small steps to build a strong sense of efficacy through successes is necessary. Think a staircase with lots of tiny steps. Still goes to the same place. #sblchat
  • walkerjd40 Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #sblchat A1. Purpose of grading is to determine where students are in their learning.
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5: We focus on growth (you're only "done" with something if you're published, etc.), so all "failure and setbacks" are framed as the norm. How do we move on? Not what does it mean as a result; what does it mean as process. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6 Teachers need to feel supported in making such a large change - encourage risk taking and allow them to make mistakes too. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6-To move to more effective grading practices, school leaders can contact resources such as @rickwormeli2, @kenoc7, @robertjmarzano, @dylanwiliam , and your #sblchat Crew!
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Constant feedback is HUGE in our learning process... #sblchat @Willmdunn
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 Get to know the standards with teachers. Talk to parents and students about the why. Revisit the non-negotiables often to make sure the focus is put squarely on learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 Administrators need to take the lead and clearly communicate the purpose for the change. People need to buy into the ‘why?’ #sblchat
  • technolandy Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 I’ve found it useful to show samples of “other” eportfolios to show how an assignment next to a rubric/performance standard can help identify “next steps” via descriptive feedback - sometimes visuals help.... #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 One strategy to have in your pocket is to learn from Amazon and Intel and their process of “disagree and commit” to keep mutiny at bay. #sblchat https://t.co/JOOevTjPAc
  • walkerjd40 Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    #sblchat A2 The only thing in a grade should be the summarize work completed to show mastery of a standard. No extras or behavior included.
  • T3achingWorst Dec 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: Lead. #sblchat #TLTW
  • theedumacater Dec 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: the biggest struggle for me is not having the know how. I look to this community for guidance. I know I’m failing at certain aspect of SBL but I’m happy in knowing I’m headed in the right direction and my principal trusts I’ll figure it out. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    RT Q6 When moving to effective grading practices, what can school leaders do to provide support? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Dec 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Our next #sblchat is Wednesday January 2nd in the new year. Your Standards-Based Learning Crew wishes all a restful, refreshing, safe, and healthy new year! @garnet_hillman @KatieBudrow
  • jeg1126 Dec 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6) Be involved instead of giving the orders. We have lost too many good Ts due to leadership delegating, letting us fail over and over again with the only feedback being, "I like your effort." Ts need more that to be successful and to look foolish b4 the Ss. #sblchat
  • LME_Principal Dec 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6) There are so many questions and debates at first. Be there to meet and give as much time to build rubrics and identify essential standards as needed. Find local experts to provide guidance in the journey. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6 Hasten slowly. Ensure a strong base in standards-based instruction and assessment before moving to standards-based grading. SB report card comes last. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks to everyone for a great year of learning in 2018! Here's to more of the same in 2019. See you all for our next chat on 1/16/19. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    And Thorndike and Skinner long before Pink! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • kcribby Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A6: school leaders should value constant feedback over lots of grades. I know many educational admin feel value with having a minimum amount of grades. I see the need for communication, but that's not the way. Encourage narrative initiated by Ss #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks for a great chat, you all! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @KatieBudrow
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    This chat would not be successful without my wonderful co-mods @RoweRikW and @KatieBudrow. Thanks to both of you and can't wait to see what 2019 brings! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Want to continue the discussion? Join the Standards Based Learning and Grading Facebook Group https://t.co/dA5h29Ll5I #sblchat @kenoc7
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Skinner? #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • tguskey Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    An excellent resource is: Lipnevich, A. A., & Smith, J. K. (Eds.) (2019), Cambridge Handbook of Instructional Feedback. Cambridge, England: Cambridge University Press. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    BF #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • JeremyDBond Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Ranking is a side effect, though. Why individualized measurements and goals may be more useful. #sblchat
    • DanKos3 Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
      What everyone not in edu thinks - rank ‘em. What it really is - to communicate proficiency of a skill, not behavior, to stakeholders. To show Ss where they can improve and where they are strong. #sblchat
  • mrdyche Dec 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Agreed! Trees aren’t grown from the top down. With strong roots, trees will stay up in forceful winds. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • kenoc7 Dec 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thanks for tonight and every #sblchat to @KatieBudrow @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman and everyone who contributes to these great discussions.
  • datiepriest Dec 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A6 Be active participants in the learning with the Ts. Build trust for the process via honesty, transparency, reliability, competence, and a supportive and benevolent disposition. It's okay to admit if you don't know... #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Dec 19 @ 10:00 PM EST
    Thanks for another great chat everyone! Many thanks to @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for being such awesome co-mods. Can’t wait to chat with you all again in 2019! #sblchat