#txhsfbchat Archive
A chat for high school football coaches. Topics discussed: coaching methods, program development, and impacting our athletes.
Wednesday May 25, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
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Chris Fisher, OL Ridge Point HS
moderator and football chat creator
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Cody G, just got 2 servings of limes, 1 corona at a time. Rough week in the K12 Info Tech World, just trying to overload per
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Jason Koenig, WRs, Montgomery Blair HS in Silver Spring, MD. Curious to hear different motions used in HUNH.
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If this is your 1st chat, we use a Q and A format. Please RT all Qs, engage other coaches, and tag everything with our brand
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Jason Bachtel
Head Football
Scurry-Rosser
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Thank you all for being here and making this the best network of coaches around!
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Jeff Rogers, DC Armstrong HS, Plymouth MN
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Phillip Blacha, Brookland-Cayce High, Cayce, SC. OL Coach and head strength coach
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Lets get going! Q1 is on the way!
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Josh Faure - HC Northern Raiders (HS equivalent) AUSTRALIA
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Q1: What formations do you use to gain a numerical advantage on the defense?
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Cam Jones
Norcross HS
Georgia
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Kenny Wooten. Asst. Linebackers Coach. Lubbock Coronado HS
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A1: trips to the field. Force the D to match numbers and spacing.
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Kendrick Crite. Currently job and house hunting in Connecticut. Formerly OL/RGC at Jefferson HS in Rockford, IL.
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A1. We like to use TE Trey
Occasionally tackle over with TE nub.
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Ryan Montalvo
DC @ Rudder High School
Bryan, TX
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A1 ace twins (wing), unbalance (tackle over) crazy/Rebel/meat (loaded skill to one side)
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Chris Norton, HC - Marvell-Elaine High School, Marvell, AR
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A1 a heap of different 3x1, 4x1, 3x2 formations. Trey, Trips, Bunch
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A1. Trips to Boundary to see if they set strength to numbers or field.
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A1: various forms of 3x1. And if we aren't in it we are probably going to motion to it.
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our biggest problem as a defense is seeing trips with the F back on the same side. They can run stretch going away
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A1 What will the defense allow you to get away with?Strength into the boundary probably easiest way to get numbers
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Frank Wilczynski, HC/OC, Overbrook HS, Pine Hill, NJ
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A1: We use a lot of trips, receiver over formations to shift the d to our preference
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A1: trips to the field, TE to the short side, Pistol, triple option from gun
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Q2: Without using a special formation, what plays in your offense give a numerical advantage at the point of attack?
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Dean Munkers Stayton OR. Late to the party cuz of street tacos.
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A1: the wing t is designed to win the numbers game. Any team I've seen run it tried to run to their strength
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We will change coverage on where the RB is set in trips, need to help force and sprint out(4-2-5 base) https://t.co/gvml3cBt5g
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our biggest problem as a defense is seeing trips with the F back on the same side. They can run stretch going away
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A1. Unbalanced with quick jumps/ trades into it from FB or TE
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A1: I like trey (TE trips) and trips with a wing gives us run and pass numbers.
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Phil Sandifer OC/OL Paulding County HS GA
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Speed Option
Stretch Power Read
RPO
GH counter
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thanks for the follow coach, good luck at the new gig, I left Illinois and it's whoa a couple years ago,
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We have a 4-3 so that's the same concept. We started going man with the secondary and banjo the RB https://t.co/EZQrLqkuNt
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We will change coverage on where the RB is set in trips, need to help force and sprint out(4-2-5 base) https://t.co/gvml3cBt5g
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our biggest problem as a defense is seeing trips with the F back on the same side. They can run stretch going away
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A2. Speed Option
Stretch Power Read
RPO
GH counter
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A2: We trap the 3 tech with our TE as a wing. He never sees it coming.
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A2: Counter Trey and any type of option off of inside zone away or counter reading the backside Dend. Allows qb to become a #
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A2: 3x2 gun with 1 back gives us a 5 on 5 match-up automatic give and gash for a chunk of yards
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A1: Like going tackle over/unbalanced GL/short yardage. Spend a lot of time 4x1, 3x2 to manipulate numbers, as well.
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A1: 2-back TE trips causes to break general alignment rules and special align
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A2: I like power read and buck sweep.
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Diagram? https://t.co/wXzrkR35hi
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A2: 3x2 gun with 1 back gives us a 5 on 5 match-up automatic give and gash for a chunk of yards
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A2: Being a flexbone team we usually will get a advantage on triple out of our base formation, assuming the d balances up.
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we will run c4, hard 3, 2read with man on 1 or 3 or WS deep of 3. 1st thing, why are they in trips?
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Q3: How does your defense adjust to unbalanced formations?
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we usually carry 2-3 in the game plan
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sorry for being late...allen oh - Krum HS OC
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A2: Also BDIS plays like bubble, now, and flare.
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does the guard down block?
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A3 depends on the lineman. Alot of times we go to a line shift if they go tackle over https://t.co/YDAsgl8qY8
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Q3: How does your defense adjust to unbalanced formations?
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A2: anything where you can get the running back to be a lead blocker -jet sweep, qb stretch
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A1: pro or twins with both backs stacked weak. Jet sweep/Qb power weak, and GH counter strong
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Eddie Young, HC/OC Lajeunesse HS, Windsor, ON
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Trust your rules & don't cover ineligible receivers...
https://t.co/Q93l5P2lgG
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Q3: How does your defense adjust to unbalanced formations?
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A3: we will shift the line in event of a 4-blocker surface.
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A2: QB Zone to Trips with TB as lead
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A2 power read, dart read, speed option and any RPO game we go with
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a3: Most defenses like to roll a safety down and play 3 with man on BS. Seen 3 cloud corner plays flat and safeties roll over
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A3 however if we go zone a backer adjusts if it's man a safety usually rolls https://t.co/YDAsgl8qY8
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Q3: How does your defense adjust to unbalanced formations?
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A1: FIB W/Trips
https://t.co/W0Uf8LLMch
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Q1: What formations do you use to gain a numerical advantage on the defense?
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A3) time out. If it's something not seen on film, if it's on film, we will balance to the unbalance,dudes in gaps, force & spill
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A2: dang, I forgot about tunnel screen too.
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how deep you wants to bro? Like simple odd or full blown DC geek mode, I have both,,,,
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A2. We RPO to get a 2-way numbers game in two areas.
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A2 Buck out of unbalanced is filthy
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A3: train kids to call strength to the 3 surface side. Will bump a man to 4th surface. We do spin safeties for wr over sets.
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Q4: How does your defense outflank the offense?
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A3: Bump front 7 half a man, use safeties as adjusters
https://t.co/od4q9HcDLm
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Q3: How does your defense adjust to unbalanced formations?
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start with pdf, then we can go further ti to the worm hole
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A3 to simplify we bump a hat... But there is more to it. DC and HC is a mastermind
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I've seen teams bump a man over. I've seen a ton of 3-3 though.
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a4: not a dc, but Ive been outflanked b4. Seen over/ under 4-3 with sam on the line and safety rolled down to strong side.
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A4: OLB and safety working together on each side to make sure we always have spill fitter and force fitter
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Colbry Lathan
Linebacker Coach
Okolona High School
Okolona, MS
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make them block more than they have. Also setting their coverage and pimping it.
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a4: Also been outflanked by a 3-3 two high safety with sam backer with SS bumped down to about 8-10 yards
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A4: slant DL to field vs spread and way from 1 back in shotgun.
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A4) working on a rolled c3, to separate flats and force patterns or jobs. For RPO, trips bubble teams,
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a4: and of course if you're lucky and get to play celina like us... 10-1 Defense
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a5: Slide pro to the offense rt max protect with TE...thats all I got LOL. nice blitz right there https://t.co/vnTS1Cyv8B
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A5 if either the W or $ looked like they were blitzing they would change their HS call to the blitz side
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A4: Use DB's...best to do it from boundary. Especially in HS.
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don't like making the WS play vert of 3 & play force, trips RB to trips, I want to play c4 & sky(WS force&flat)
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A5: full slide away from TE?
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James Barnard OL at magnolia west
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a5: throw the check down to the rb right now LOL!
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A5. Trade the TE over or......Calll Time Out!!!
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Rocket/Jet? Can I use a run?
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Q6: Are there certain defenses you will go unbalanced against more often than others?
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A5: we would identify Mike and slide in that direction. Honestly that's the Qs man. He's got to throw hot.
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A5: if I get a zone dropper slam back inside, makes a mess. Hard to rush a mosh pit, or shake dc's hand
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A6: 33 stack. Go end over or four man unbalanced to break the stack. Take them out of their comfort zone.
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A5: work backside if the star sees that E disappear smash the next option. Then the rest block down
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A6: it depends on the DC more than the scheme if that makes any sense.
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a6: Any D that likes COV 3. DC's who like COV 3 like to stay balanced
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A4 Lucky/Ringo full slide to Blitz. Everyone has a gap, not a man.
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including the TE in the scheme?
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Q7: What are the most common runs and passes you use in your unbalanced sets?
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A1 I form w/ X over. Dbl Tight w/ tackle over and 3 backs. Quads.
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A2 Sweep w/ a frontside guard pull, and a FB lead.
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A7: Power, Down, or Bucksweep. If the D bumps over, Belly could open up.
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A7: RPO, inside zone, toss, trap, bubble screen, slant, tunnel screens, dive, draw, etc..
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A3 Were always in man, so just make sure every eligible is covered, and rotate the safety to strong side
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a7: Jet/Rocket, power, Counter with a FB Kick out on the front side
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Love to go unbalanced against balanced defenses (split 6)
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A7. Floods, Screens, anything Gap Scheme
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you can, we dont usually. We only leave the Y in when were getting blitzed and we cant pick it up with our line
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a7: Power read with guard and FB wrapping up
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Outstanding! Great job tonight! has the best collection of coaches sharing their knowledge!
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heard OL coach scream that before. If he goes to confession stand, bring me back a hot dog. Great stuff.
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A7 Power, Zone, Toss Sweep.
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