#2PencilChat Archive

The #2PencilChat is a weekly conversation about educational technology. As we enter a more student-centered age, let's talk about using all the tools in our toolboxes to be innovative and dynamic teachers.

Tuesday September 25, 2018
7:00 PM EDT

  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:00 PM EDT
    Hello, and welcome to the #2PencilChat! Tonight we're going to roast the Five Paragraph Essay, and talk about more engaging ways to write! Join us, won't you? Introduce yourself, and say hey!
  • MrsMurat Sep 25 @ 7:00 PM EDT
    Have a couple minutes to give our #DigCit student blogs feedback on the results of us Googling ourselves? Thank you! Please RT. https://t.co/KrEbQ0MtSL #2PencilChat
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Hello Sean and #2PencilChat friends, Linda Edwards Toronto 🇨🇦 checking in 😀
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Hey Everybody! Sean here, 5th Grade ELA/SS in NE Florida. Exhausted and cheerful... #2PencilChat
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Hey! Dawn, Gifted Support Specialist, finally able to join from VA tonight. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Hello there, Linda! How goes it? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @LindaEdwardsi
  • killyalison Sep 25 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Alison Killy 8th grade ELA Greenville, NC #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Hey there Dawn! Glad you made it! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dawnkingCCPS
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    'Sup, Killy? Glad to see you! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @killyalison
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Hi Friends! Kathy from CT grade 3. How is everyone? #2pencilchat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Ben from NC.....5th grade lion tamer. I always indent. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Hey Kathy! Yay! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Set an alarm so I would remmber to join tonight! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Ahoy, Ben! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Hey, everybody. PRISCILLA here. I'm the one who teaches in the all male juvenile detention facility in Maryland. I have middle schoolers & High schoolers. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    I've learned that I have to set alarms for everything lately. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dawnkingCCPS, @kathyiwanicki
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Yay! Glad to see you! #2pencilchat
    In reply to @dawnkingCCPS
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Hey there, Priscilla! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PriscillaCap1
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Welcome, Kristyn! #2PencilChat
    • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:04 PM EDT
      Hey!! Kristyn Steffens here! 4th Grade Math/Sci is my jam 😄 Set an alarm to remind myself to join this week (woohoo).... I don't teach essay writing in my subjects, but I'm always looking for more ways to engage students in writing about science or math 🌱🌻 HAPPY TUESDAY
      In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Howdy Sean! Ive been Mathing all day at a seminar! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Hi Cassidy! I'm so glad you're here! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @teacherinsc2018
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Many of mine do, too! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PriscillaCap1
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Nathan and twitter commenter #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Oooooh, seminar time! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Q1 Let's talk about what the 5 Paragraph Essay does best - it works to teach kids structure in informational writing and opinion writing in a more formal tone. How do we achieve that without such a tedious formula? #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Hallo, Mr. S! How are you doing? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Sup Nathan! Are you going to be at @EdCampQC Sat?? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @EdCampQC
  • batool_attiya Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Hello, Attiya here. I like the five paragraph writing with my twist on it. Am I still allowed to participate in #2PencilChat ???
    • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:00 PM EDT
      Hello, and welcome to the #2PencilChat! Tonight we're going to roast the Five Paragraph Essay, and talk about more engaging ways to write! Join us, won't you? Introduce yourself, and say hey!
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    I am doing alright. How about you? #2pencilchat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • mexusmx Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    John from Mexico City where I lead an international American school! It has been a while since I have joined in with the good folks of #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Heck yeah! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @batool_attiya
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    I will be there #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets, @EdCampQC
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    I am exhausted, but making progress. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    I don’t use the 5 paragraph model. We are a #tcrwp school so I use Workshop based. #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Howdy, John, glad to see you! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mexusmx
  • LaurenPorosoff Sep 25 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Better late than never for some #2PencilChat love. Lauren from NY. I write about empowering teachers and students.
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Cool! Harmony and I will be there too. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @EdCampQC
  • mexusmx Sep 25 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1: Ss need to learn the structure that is most effective given the purpose of the piece. Have Ss evaluate what structures they think are most effective and model those. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Well, except that some of my kids are well behind, too. Whee, right? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PriscillaCap1
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    Hallo, Lauren! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @LaurenPorosoff
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1: I'm more of a 2 + 3 essay person myself. #2PencilChat
  • LaurenPorosoff Sep 25 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1 We can teach structure by having students read published essays, discussing their structures, and having students try out those structures in their own writing. #2PencilChat
  • batool_attiya Sep 25 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1: I encourage students to bring in their own personal experiences and stories. #2PencilChat That works great with opinion writing.
    • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:08 PM EDT
      Q1 Let's talk about what the 5 Paragraph Essay does best - it works to teach kids structure in informational writing and opinion writing in a more formal tone. How do we achieve that without such a tedious formula? #2PencilChat
  • killyalison Sep 25 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1: Have students practice argumentative writing by doing things like reviews, blog entries, etc. #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1 I think part of it is making sure that they're only learning the structure so they can break it later in quality ways. #2PencilChat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    A1 have them create tutorials about what they create. Have to follow process and keep a structure #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Howdy folks. I’m late! #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Hallo Deeeene! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Could you elaborate on what that looks like? :) #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    A1 I use the basic structure with a twist. They develop their topic, arguments/points and closing on post it notes. Then can change/remove one note instead of rewriting #2PencilChat
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A1: Instead of pushing the literal structure of an essay at a kiddo, graphic organizers can be helpful.... it made the writing from the kids less "scripted" seeming, yet still gave them a general outline, organization, and focus they should follow #2PencilChat
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Everyday my enrichment class has a creative writing prompt and in my math class I have them write out how they would teach how to solve problems. They share and we discuss. These low stakes writing really helps them get better with out the fear #2PencilChat
  • trevorabryan Sep 25 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A1 I think that teaching kids authentic writing through a lead/hook, support and some kind of ending covers a lot of ground regardless of genre. Good writing is good writing. #2pencilchat
  • mexusmx Sep 25 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Learn for the purpose of disruption! Very interesting approach! I am going to have to think about that one... #2pencilchat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    I love it, Sam! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MrMarshsClass
  • kruevans Sep 25 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    George from Japan. Will be popping in and out. I teach secondary English and Humanities. Blogging at: https://t.co/HVCqyGmhNd #2PencilChat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    I dig the blog idea. Hoping to implement this soon in our writing block! #2PencilChat Trying to get them to have an opinion and express it in writing is so great!
    In reply to @killyalison
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    Hi, George! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kruevans
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A1: well mentor texts tend to be helpful. I try not to mention “the five-paragraph” anything but changing the terminology - “Tell me what you’re gonna tell me, tell me and then tell me what you told me” at the basic level to understanding structure and flow. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A1b They don’t feel so overwhelmed with the write, edit, revise process in pieces 😀 (Many of my students are reluctant writers) #2PencilChat
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A1. A 5 paragraph essay is too daunting a task for most of my Ss. So, what I've done before is set up an essay template. They start w/ what i wrote then "choose 2 or 3" sentences from the selection #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    I like this! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    YES! I love that! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    Thank you Sean! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    A1: I try to write with them too and talk through a piece of writing together so they can see that writing is not so boxed in. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    A1 I've only ever taught elementary kiddos but we've always used graphic organizers to organize thoughts and then encouraged Ss to write for authentic audiences. Maybe they blog or write to other classmates, other teachers, etc. #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Hey how you doing Magic? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    I realize that I need to start using more graphic organizers... #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Exhausted, but cheerful! How's your situation goin? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey
  • kruevans Sep 25 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    A1: I go back and forth on this one. I use lots of authentic writing samples and mentor texts to help students, and write a lot in front of them but sometimes a structure can be helpful too. I'm not ready to throw out the 5 paragraphs entirely yet. Balance is key. #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    I tend to push content, (tell me your knowledge about this idea), stream of consciousness works too. I like the idea of focusing on the organizing during revising and editing. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    Balance is often the key! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kruevans
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    Hiya #2PencilChat it's Jo from Wednesday I'm running late today! LOL even though I'm ahead!
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    That would require you to be more organized #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    I have to because a lot of my kiddos can't organize their notes, much less their writing right now. We are working on it. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    Hallo, Jo! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    There's that... #2PencilChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Q2 When it comes to reporting what they've learned, what other avenues can and should we have students traveling to share what they've learned after a heady bit of research? #2PencilChat
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    A1.2 I've also started having viewing guides for the video we watch. I ask many opinion questions & why? On the sheet, I structure their responses for them so they can see structure. #2PencilChat
  • PegGrafwallner Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    A1 I know 5 paragraph essay is not everyone's favorite...I get that. It's confining and routine. But, I did use it when I taught freshmen English as a way to teach structure and pattern. It worked. After they had that structure, then we focused on voice on creativity #2PencilChat
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    👋#2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    I say it really fast and challenge the students to say it. They practice it too and compete! Little do they know they are indirectly learning it! Hahahaha #eduwin #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Agree... we have to know that students will have to be able to write and that 5 paragraph format is expected in some higher education formats. We need to expose them but not limit them to only that format. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kruevans
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    And thank you! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • trevorabryan Sep 25 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A1 Most great writing whether fictional or informational has narrative elements. Helping kids show the mood to support their ideas is what resonates with readers. Infusing quality narrative in any writing generally keeps readers reading. This visual can help #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    I think that's the key to it - start with structure, then add flair. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    Isn’t the real answer to give our students writing assignments that are authentic? I explain how I have to write lesson plans, or show them how we write tweets and blog posts... not many 5 paragraph essays in the blog-o-sphere right? #2PencilChat
  • killyalison Sep 25 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A2: We have created infographics, skits, and cereal boxes based on research. #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Boom. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MrMarshsClass
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Well, I also teach grade 3, so right now I am most concerned that they are writing sentences that go together. #2pencilchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    When we get to opinion writing, i teach them to write a thesis and support it with evidence. #2pencilchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Sometimes creating them can be fun too :) #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    I used @trello a little last year and I love how that can be used as a collaboration tool. @padlet as well. (as for digital tools) #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    A2 I like having students write and organize notes to record video sharing what they've found out. #2PencilChat
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    A2 There are so many alternatives available to demonstrate learning than essays. Animation videos, create a play, podcast, blog, create visual presentations using @Buncee google slides, drawing and @Flipgrid #2PencilChat
  • LaurenPorosoff Sep 25 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    A2 Depending on what and why they researched, students can share in an ignite talk, poster session, letter to an official, PSA, game, picture book, or photo essay. #2PencilChat
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    I have been in love with sketchnotes. Google slides is also awesome. #2pencilchat
    • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
      Q2 When it comes to reporting what they've learned, what other avenues can and should we have students traveling to share what they've learned after a heady bit of research? #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    I love you all so much... #2PencilChat
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    Q2 After any learning I want my students running to each other! To @flipgrid or padlet, instagram Snapchat, to text there parents, to tel or show anybody! LEARNING IS EXCITING and we should always encourage students to share what they learn! #2PencilChat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A1 we should also have students write podcasts. How to create images without any images #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • trevorabryan Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2 Graphic novels, slide presentations, writing plays/musicals, poems can all be avenues to demonstrate learning. That’s what professional creators often do. Artists’ Writers’ etc creations are a product/exploration of their learning. #2pencilchat
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2: My super scientists last year loved using #brainpop Make-a-Movie to create their own BrainPop video.... its super cool!! @DebbieKryspin did a lesson in my room last year and it's an amazing tool to show what they have learned in a creative manner #2PencilChat
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2 After any learning I want my students running to each other! To @flipgrid or padlet, instagram Snapchat, to text there parents, to tel or show anybody! LEARNING IS EXCITING and we should always encourage students to share what they learn! #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    Having them write for podcasts is a great way to let them get out of their head about perfecting their writing, too. They're writing to sound good, not look good. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2 I have them choose how they might show me what they leaned. It can be in any format with they they are comfortable or want to explore. #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2: A. Sum it up! B. Quote it! C. Podcast it! D. Put it in an electronic visual. E. Sketchnote it! F. Make a video! G. Make a tweet about it! #2pencilchat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    Yup, definetly going to try this out! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach, @DebbieKryspin
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    Oh ok. That's awesome! That extends to 5th for sure. I like the opinion writing method. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    We also use @Kidblog and write posts! #2pencilchat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    I think it’s good to hang on to traditional methods too. Not everything works for every student either. 😎 #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    A2: Infographics, blogging, tweeting, podcasting, song writing, poetry, plays... really lots of choice! #2PencilChat
  • PegGrafwallner Sep 25 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    Thanks, Dene! #2pencilchat
    In reply to @dene_gainey
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    We talk about how like things go together into a paragraph, but I don’t talk about the 5 paragraph essay at all. #2pencilchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    A2 have students combine their favorite characters in story. They need to research the characters story to be able to know how they would react #2pencilchat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • batool_attiya Sep 25 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    A2: I tried to give them options like recording a video or displaying information on a poster before we get into the depths of Writing! #2PencilChat
    • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:18 PM EDT
      Q2 When it comes to reporting what they've learned, what other avenues can and should we have students traveling to share what they've learned after a heady bit of research? #2PencilChat
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    A2. We don't do a ton of research. But, I do for their lessons. I design worksheets and note taking pages using smart shapes in Word. What I select, matches the format of the material. I'm showing them there's different ways to present material #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    I love it! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PriscillaCap1
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    Right on! I think that is great. I am trying to be more mindful (this is my 1st FULL year) to build and create with them and really lead them piece by piece instead of the: Here is what I want...do it! model. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    A2.1 Honestly, a nice, open dialogue is very rewarding to me as a T. #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    Oh yes, you got it! #2pencilchat I encounter many students who have been taught that way so it does have value.
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    I often talk about writing until you've told the story... this may be a few sentences or paragraphs or even a few chapters. We'll work on the presentation after the story is told. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    Yes! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dawnkingCCPS
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    Q3 When it comes to teaching students to share an effective opinion piece, surely there are more powerful tools that we can give them for getting their point across. How do we teach them what they need to know to effectively argue their POV in many modes? #2PencilChat
  • PegGrafwallner Sep 25 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    A2 While I appreciate an essay, I also embrace the students who decide to create a 4 girl "band" entitled "Odysseus and the Three Calypsos" and write a song based on that book of The Odyssey. Yep, it really happened. Needless to say, they earned an A. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    That is cool! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    It's pretty great! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @teacherinsc2018, @dene_gainey
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    A3: though I haven’t had the opportunity to frame one for the students yet, I like the idea of a “Debate” or Socratic seminar, or our #powerofquotes discussions in which conversations and opinions are shared. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • PegGrafwallner Sep 25 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    and why didn't I record it!?!?! I'm smarter now... #2pencilchat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • kruevans Sep 25 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    A3: I have students look at authentic real world texts from well known opinion columnists as well as write in front of them while thinking aloud. #2pencilchat
  • nathan_stevens Sep 25 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    A3 write facts take the emotion out of it #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    That sounds awesome! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hindsight, right? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    A3 debate is good or even better use their body and expressions to let us know what they think #2PencilChat
  • joannavrteaches Sep 25 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    A? I do think Ss need to learn how to craft writing. It can be done in so many ways. I found that Ss who had choice and could express themselves for real purposes/audiences were more motivated. That’s why I present on this topic. Let’s #rocktheworldwithwriting #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    There’s definitely power in that! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PriscillaCap1
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    A3: Maybe have them vote or choose a cultural topic, global or school policy topic and with a small group/partner come up with a solution? Get the school involved, use social media/blog/or other digital platform to see it through? #2PencilChat
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    A1 With Opinion Writing it’s good to pick a topic S’s are passionate about. We do it in teams and debate the opposing team. I film it so they can self evaluate using the rubric I use. We vote on which team won #2PencilChat
  • killyalison Sep 25 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    A3: Any kind of discussion is usually good for students to use to get their point across. #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Nice setup! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @LindaEdwardsi
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    A3. My guys love to give circular responses, so never really explaining or going deeper. This is where I pull out the color markers & start writing their responses on the board. Everyone wants THEIR answer on the board. Also, I say "Tell me more" & "keep going"#2PencilChat
  • mr_hayes Sep 25 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Did I miss the chat? #2PencilChat
  • MrMarshsClass Sep 25 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A3 in my math classroom when we start new matieral I always have my Ss first try to figure it out on their own. I’d like to try is to have them write to justify their answer using past knowledge and debate which solution might be best! #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Not yet! You still have half of it to go! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_hayes
  • mr_hayes Sep 25 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Eric, Sped/Math teacher, really late to this teacher. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Hey there, Eric! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_hayes
  • mr_hayes Sep 25 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A3: Socratic seminar, debates, blogging to name just a few #2pencilchat
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A3: I have asked students to select one side of a topic that could relate to kids their age... then I ask them to support/write about/debate the side they DIDN'T choose. #2PencilChat
  • joannavrteaches Sep 25 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Hope to share #rocktheworldwithwriting with some of you this year #2pencilchat way beyond the 5 paragraph essay!
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A3: The BIG learning comes from their peers... Tools like Google Forms (💜) allow students to argue topics and peers can vote which side they agree with...They see how well they argue their point AND decide what changes to make for more peers to be on their side #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Q4 Audience is so important. What good is a paper that only your teacher reads? What are your favorite ways to share your students' work so that it has greater value for them? #2PencilChat
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    We do a lot of writing. A lot! We have writer’s notebooks and write in them for 10 minutes every day. Whatever they want. This is separate from their process piece. #2pencilchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A4 I like posting on @kidblog and letting other children comment! #2pencilchat
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A4 I sometimes used to read out one or two to the rest of the class with big fanfare and expression but never revealed who wrote it. The S was always sooo proud of themselves even though it was anonymous - they knew! #2PencilChat
  • killyalison Sep 25 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A4: We have invited other classes to share our research with. The students set up tables and have to present on what they found out to other students when they stop at their table. #2pencilchat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    How do you set your form up? How do you label? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    It's amazing how much I'm learning this year by stepping into a new grade/school/community. I'm really glad for all of your thinking as I'm rethinking my classroom setup. #2PencilChat
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A4: I can repeat my answer from an earlier question... Infographics, blogging, tweeting, podcasting, song writing, poetry, plays... #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A4: now it’s my web site! I do post them on the walls of the school and students can be showcased on the electronic bulletin board in the hallway. I need to design an authentic student blogging/sharing platform with specific components. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A4 One simple thing that we do is having journal share time each week so their favorite writing doesn't fall on deaf ears. #2PencilChat
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    I also like them to record what they are thinking and later transcribe it like a real researcher #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki, @mr_abee_tweets
  • mr_hayes Sep 25 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A4: I love blogging. #2pencilchat
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A4. Hanging their work on the bulletin board with positive comments is always a must. #2PencilChat
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A4 A lot of our work is shared with families, via Twitter and we do a lot of collaboration with other classes in the 🌍 #2PencilChat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Great way to get in the leg work (and creativity) for when they need to create something later with minimal revisions. Love it! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @kathyiwanicki
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    How could I forget that. I believe in share alouds!! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A4: My students LOVE hanging work on their clip (I allow anything they're proud of).... or when I hang work in the hall-- It means a lot to them to see our classroom showered in their work.... Sadly the only picture of my board I have is when it was empty, oops #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    This is cool! Harvesting it... #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach
  • LaurenPorosoff Sep 25 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A3 To teach students to argue their points effectively, we can teach them to empathize with her audience. What does the audience need to know? #2PencilChat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Have any of you used @google note for this? I have been wanting to try it out. They can record via mic and it automatically annotates what they said. I guess that is kind of cheating, but they can see if it made sense? I don't know what do you think? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @kathyiwanicki, @Google
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A4.1 I also try to collect work a bit early so that I can read responses. This allows me the opportunity to be able to comment directly to the Ss about their responses. That way they know I really am reading and grading their work. Also, that I approve of their work #2PencilChat
  • LaurenPorosoff Sep 25 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A4 My students write about very personal topics—coming out, being called the N word, physical and mental illnesses, sexual harassment—so they tend not to want their work shared. #2PencilChat
  • kathyiwanicki Sep 25 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    I have not..I don’t know about it. We have read write on our chrome books and that is fabulous. #2pencilchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets, @JoPrestia, @Google
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A4: We are currently researching animals to practice researching and organizing info. My pitch was the we would share it with 1st grade. They are researching, organizing, writing their presentation and creating vids/slides/prezi to share. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    That makes sense. When I had a sub, I had students write letters telling me what they want me to know about them. The results were eye opening! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @LaurenPorosoff
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    I say why not? It's not cheating, it's teaching them another skill - editing/proofreading #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets, @kathyiwanicki, @Google
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    Q5 Beyond research and opinion pieces, what are the most engaging ways you've found to get your students to communicate and share their writing? #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    And many people think better verbally than while writing! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @mr_abee_tweets, @kathyiwanicki, @Google
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    ooooo I did something like that - https://t.co/o9Mwjcdi10 #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones, @LaurenPorosoff
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Some of their lives are so heartbreaking! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @LaurenPorosoff
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Too, I would think the carry over to great public speaking would be great! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @kathyiwanicki, @Google
  • dawnkingCCPS Sep 25 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Thanks for a great chat. Have to cut out a few minutes early. I've got my alarm set for next week already! #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Absolutely! And it's a great chance for them to learn that their voice is important! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @teacherinsc2018
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us, Dawn! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dawnkingCCPS
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    I know right? It was lucky I was in my office with the door shut when I read them - 💔 #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones, @LaurenPorosoff
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A5: Well I’d have to say on @FreshGrade a platform designed to build a triangle of communication and sharing between them, parents and the teacher. They are quite comfortable in a space they know is theirs to express themselves and they do express. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones, @FreshGrade
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A5: I'm curious.... I always have kids who aren't into sharing/communicating what they've written, so I'm interested in hearing others responses on this one!! (Learning LOTS) #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A5 Part 2: I’d love to somehow collect and publish examples of students’ work in a book of some kind! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • LindaEdwardsi Sep 25 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    A5 My kids like to write weekend journals any topic. Could be things they are interested in, instead of their weekend 😀 #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I think it’s okay; I’ve seen some change their minds as those who are willing lead the way...I also try to reinforce it as a positive thing! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I've never heard of this!! Going to look into it 👀 Thanks for sharing #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey, @MagicPantsJones, @FreshGrade
  • killyalison Sep 25 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A5: My students love to write on the whiteboards and are happy to share anything they write on them. They also love to write on sticky notes. #2pencilchat
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A5. Lol...you're funny @MagicPantsJones I've found for my content, it's better to let Ss share verbally first, I write their responses, maybe rephrase a bit (I always ask if I can) and then let Ss copy from what we've collectively put together. #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    The different branches of @826National (https://t.co/X2aaX07Rn1) do some really fab publishing of their students' writing! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey, @826National
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    That's doable, why not do it? Just collect the pieces and have them bound - it doesn't have to be too fancy - or maybe the school magazine committee could organise it #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey, @MagicPantsJones
  • PriscillaCap1 Sep 25 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A5.1 the facility has done talent shows and open mic night where Ss can share their raps or their writing. #2PencilChat
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    I will look into this one Sean! Thanks for that! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones, @826National
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    There are so many online printing sites, too. You could print up one class copy, and send parents a link to purchase copies. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @dene_gainey
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    They've got some fab writing curriculum on their website, too! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey, @826National
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    Could you use @Storybird for that? Not sure how much the cost would be. Or maybe shutterfly?? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey, @MagicPantsJones, @Storybird
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Sometimes it’s the idea of coordinating everything. It’s on my list though! #2pencilchat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Well, not -curriculum- but searchable, standards based writing lessons, projects and writing samples. #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey, @826National
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    and why not publish it as an online book for download to kindle - is that possible? #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones, @dene_gainey
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Silent lunch or share! haha! JK!! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Totally! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @dene_gainey
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Muahahahaha! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets, @MsKristynTeach
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Good idea! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia, @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    I love you so much, #2PencilChat Pals! Thank you for joining us tonight. Let's get out there, and give our students meaningful work that they'll enjoy and value! Have a great rest of the week!
  • MsKristynTeach Sep 25 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    This was great!! Thanks for hosting #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 25 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    Thanks Sean! Have a great week everyone!! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MagicPantsJones
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Oh, and if you've been asking about a #MaslowbeforeBlooms shirt, I've got a bunch of colors up at @Teespring. Check it out at https://t.co/6iig6lOkfD #2PencilChat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    You're welcome, and thanks again! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @MsKristynTeach
  • JoPrestia Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Always a great start to my day #2PencilChat Thanks! Remember, Wednesday is a great day!
  • dene_gainey Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Well Sean my wheels are turning about new ways to do things. Thanks for sparking the conversation tonight. I need to star tweets. Too bad they don’t offer that. #2PencilChat
  • PegGrafwallner Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    So glad I could drop in! #2pencilchat
  • mr_hayes Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Sorry. I don't feel like I contributed much today. Kind of distracted. #2pencilchat
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Thank goodness! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @JoPrestia
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Awesome! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @dene_gainey
  • LaurenPorosoff Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    A5 Getting beyond narrative, informative, and persuasive writing #2PencilChat https://t.co/PiI5IO7fdo
  • MagicPantsJones - Moderator Sep 25 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Me too! #2PencilChat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner