#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.
Monday November 28, 2016
8:00 PM EST
  • MrsMurat Nov 28 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Have 3 minutes to help my Entrepreneurship Ss? https://t.co/4TSA5gRxEe TY! Also, pls RT! #flipclass #masspchat #musedchat #stemhq #tlchat
  • CompareEdu Nov 28 @ 8:00 PM EST
    No Logins Required or Brokers Daily Updates #hsc #engchat #CollegeChat #edchat #musedchat #mathchat #savelibraries
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Adam from NJ! Everything music 3-6 #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Greetings! Amy from MI. Middle school band. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:01 PM EST
    How are you tonight, Adam? #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Good to see you Amy, thanks for the excellent topic! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • phyllissings Nov 28 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Phyllis from Louisiana. 5th/6th grade gen music & choir #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Welcome Scott, glad you could join us tonight! Make sure to include the #musedchat tag in your tweets so everybody can see
    In reply to @scottcasagrande
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hi Phyllis, have a nice Thanksgiving? #musedchat
    In reply to @phyllissings
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Thanks! Hoping to pick some brains tonight for some new ideas. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hey everyone! Jason, vocal & theatre teacher from MA. Hope y’all had a great Thanksgiving! #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Aubrey from CO - 5th-8th orchestra . LOVE the topic tonight, something I'm very passionate about! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:04 PM EST
    I know there's going to be a session at the MMC on working with autistic students. Really looking forward to it. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • BurtonHable Nov 28 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Burton Hable, 6-12 band from Ankeny, IA. Lurking from orchestra rehearsal #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat Jori! Make sure you're including #musedchat on your tweets so everybody can see them.
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Thanksgiving here was great, how about you? #musedchat
    In reply to @TriToneJones
  • biljan22 Nov 28 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi There! Crystal here. 7th&8th grade choir/theatre teacher in MN. #musedchat
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Ah, that's the key. Thanks for the tip #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Looking forward to your inout tonight, glad you could join us #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us tonight Burton, how are you today? #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Will definitely have to look it up. Feel like I'm struggling to help a few autistic and LD students this yr. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Luther from WI, high school band. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Welcome to the chat Crystal, glad you could join us #musedchat
    In reply to @biljan22
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Really nice, thanks. :-) Cooked for my mom, who came up from PA. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Good evening to you Luther, how are you tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:07 PM EST
    pass along notes if you can! Either we don't have much like it in NJ or I haven't found it yet. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Q1 coming shortly #musedchat
  • scottcasagrande Nov 28 @ 8:07 PM EST
    I am getting this now. Scott from Illinois, HS Band #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Will do. The guy leading the session has done tons of research on it. Can't wait. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused, @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Hi Scott! I've got some extended family in Decatur and Assumption. :) Welcome! #musedchat
    In reply to @scottcasagrande
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Oh hey VanderCook class friend! Good on us for doing our homework. haha #musedchat
    In reply to @scottcasagrande
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Who's presenting? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @JarvelaMused
  • BurtonHable Nov 28 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Twitter chat. Follow the hashtag. In this case, #musedchat. Moderator asks questions with Q1, Q2, etc. We answer using A1, A2..
    In reply to @MistahCarlo
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Q1: Let's make this relatively open-ended tonight. What are some typical accommodations you've made for students in your classes? #musedchat
  • scottcasagrande Nov 28 @ 8:10 PM EST
    looking forward to it! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Good evening #musedchat Sam Fritz from Center Grove MS 6-8 Band
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: color coded notes for an autistic 8th gr clarinet player. lots of pointing and touching to communicate for another #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Kevin Scollin, he's at EMU. I think his wife works with special needs students. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @JarvelaMused
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Antoine Buttigieg here from Woodbridge Ontario Canada HS instrumental Sr /Jr Concert Band MB and drumline director #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Hi Sam, how are you tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:11 PM EST
    If you unlock your tweets, more people can see and reply to your tweets. :) #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable, @MistahCarlo
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: Start w/the kid. Ask them what they need. Or, if they aren't able to tell you that, ask adults who are in their lives. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Welcome Antoine, how was your Monday? #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #musedchat a1 less/easier questions on tests. Given them an easier part to perform. This is always a struggle for me
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Did you come up with color system or S? Who did the coding? Have tried this w/ varying results this year. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    I had my 1st autistic student added to my 6th grade Band. Do you color code the different notes names or rhythms? #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: Choral - Some Ss are in chorus for social reasons, so exempt from concert requirements. Adjust assignments or give alternate. #musedchat
  • biljan22 Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: Highlighted/simplified part sheets for students to follow along with sight reading. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    This yr, a student with some vision issues. Their music gets photocopied onto pink paper to help them see. #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1b: But more practically, seating, modified music notation (I have a whole color-coded system I use), modified parts, etc... #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:13 PM EST
    I've done that too - helps w/dyslexia! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:13 PM EST
    I'm really interested in the color-coding. Can you elaborate on that a bit? #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:13 PM EST
    a previous studentteacher. S chose her colors and made her own system. tried to reuse colors for over the break... #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: packets of 5 highlighters C-yellow, D-green and so on. Ss have available any time #musedchat
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Why does pink help? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:14 PM EST
    ...but that didn't take. Was fascinating, couldn't distinguish lines and spaces but could tell 3 shades of green! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: Was trying to color code by fingering rather than note for one of my trumpet Ss rather than note, still working on it... #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Nov 28 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1 Preferred seating, larger/colored music, differentiated part #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:15 PM EST
    color coded for notes, penciled over the note heads (not on originals of course), no problem with reading rhythms. #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Here's a blog post on my color-coding system: https://t.co/u4sl07TTJ6 #musedchat @jguarr
    In reply to @jguarr
  • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A1: Arrange for student to have private time at least every week- even if only 5-10minutes #musedchat
  • scottcasagrande Nov 28 @ 8:15 PM EST
    great idea! left this off my response: #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Honestly, no clue why pink vs another color. Their teacher tried a bunch of different ones, sent us all what worked #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • BurtonHable Nov 28 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Seen this too with Boomwhacker colors in Finale/Sibelius #musedchat https://t.co/MsXHBkduEc
    • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:13 PM EST
      A1: packets of 5 highlighters C-yellow, D-green and so on. Ss have available any time #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1.2: Free lesson program available w/ HS Ss for extra help. Hard to get to Ss that need extra time in class of 50. #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:16 PM EST
    when I tried and failed at that with clarinet, I think it was because it was too smart for its own good... #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Oh, how I understand that! My 8th & 7th graders help tutor my 6th graders, too. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:17 PM EST
    ..if they make the system and it has meaning for them, then it will work. We don't need to understand it #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Preferred seating question: What if it conflicts with what makes the most musical sense? Ex: Tubist sitting in the front row. #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:17 PM EST
    One more blog post on accessibility - more than 140 characters here! https://t.co/0X1fKex1kp #musedchat
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Was just going to ask what folks w/larger ensembles do. Thanks! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Good ideas here! Thanks Aubrey! #musedchat
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:17 PM EST
    BTW, is this on top of required lessons throughout the year or are lessons optional for all Ss? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1: make sure they always sit near someone they know and trust #musedchat
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:18 PM EST
    I do as well, but some Ss have social anxiety & Ed. Plan exempts concerts/performances. #musedchat
    In reply to @biljan22
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Tag is just #musedchat. We try to abbreviate to save space.
    In reply to @scottcasagrande
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:18 PM EST
    I do preferred seating within reason. Could tubist be on the edge of a 2nd or 3rd row (front of room, not 1st row)? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:18 PM EST
    I have some that can make their own system, but others that need more guidance to code music so trial and error. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1: create a custom fingering chart for each piece. Number pitches - chart had name, notation, fingering #finale has blank charts #musedchat
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1 how do you folks work with in the band performance settings? Students with individual education plans IEP #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:19 PM EST
    S instruction is only in band class during school day. The free tutoring is optional but encouraged. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Tried it but no real luck. Could get it like you wanted? #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Can you still require them to go, or help in a diff. way? Programs? Set up stage? Still contributing. #musedchat
    In reply to @TriToneJones, @biljan22
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Some definitely. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh, @biljan22
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:20 PM EST
    HS programs round here have 3 req lessons per MP as part of a grade, to varying degrees of not very successful :) #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Not sure exactly what you are asking here - concerts? #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • scottcasagrande Nov 28 @ 8:21 PM EST
    great call, Luther #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A1.1 I try to make sure student is next to someone they trust and who can help during rehearsal #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:22 PM EST
    @Ms_A_Yeh Thanks for sharing the color-coding stuff. Thinking about doing some coloring as a class tomorrow. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Seating w/ strong and understanding S can be a huge help. #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:23 PM EST
    it is hard, the percussionist needs preferential seating... #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Q: Anyone have effective focus directing strategies for autistic students during band rehearsals? #musedchat
  • BurtonHable Nov 28 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Not with chromaticism or key changes. Diatonic stuff works fine. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:25 PM EST
    I honestly consider running my band like marching band before every single rehearsal (Ten-Hut and all) #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:25 PM EST
    @Ms_A_Yeh color coding is awesome! Started to do this with brass partials - like tier 2 #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:25 PM EST
    #musedchat which instruments do you assign them?
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Fundamental one color, first partial another, like that? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Written schedules, checklists, first/then charts. Build in a sensory break (first 5 mins of reh, then 5 min break) #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A peer buddy in class can be effective. Understanding friend tapping a shoulder or redirecting quietly really helps. #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:27 PM EST
    #musedchat definitely a constant routine helps
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Kids choose in my neck of the woods - no assigning. I go with what they like unless its physically impossible. #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:27 PM EST
    but those short, Pavlovian type call & responses work well for all Ss. starting to add a lot of commands this yr #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Ever tried rehearse percussion in front? Great to teach balance plus Ts connect to percussion #musedchat might help Ss not feel isolated
    • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:23 PM EST
      it is hard, the percussionist needs preferential seating... #musedchat
      In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:28 PM EST
    #musedchat same here but if it's not working out for them then what?
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:29 PM EST
    It's so individual - talk w/Ss & Ps & other Ts. Why is it not working? What might help? #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Going to try this tomorrow #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Pardon my ignorance, but what does SS stand for in this context? #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:30 PM EST
    twitter shorthand S= students. P=parents, T=teachers, A=admins #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Students. Welcome to Twitter shorthand...we are educators after all :-)! #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116, @JarvelaMused
  • biljan22 Nov 28 @ 8:31 PM EST
    I've seen this done in both band rooms of my colleagues. Seems to be a great change! #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • scottcasagrande Nov 28 @ 8:31 PM EST
    This is a great blog! I am interested in including special needs students in our band. other suggestions where to look? #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:32 PM EST
    #musedchat I have the reverse rehearsal it's cool. I've also had kids sit in different parts of the class w differ instruments
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:32 PM EST
    We've done circles on occasion. Some w/ section, some mixed up. #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher, @SamuelFritz
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Great way to help kids gain independence on their parts, too! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @MrBMusicTeacher, @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Q2: What questions do you have about working with special needs students? We've got a few folks w/ lots of experience tonight #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Hm, not sure...most of this I just did trial & error to see what worked. Best advice: work closely w/SPED Ts. #musedchat
    In reply to @scottcasagrande
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I have a grad certificate in working w/students w/autism so I had a good head start on some strategies. #musedchat
    In reply to @scottcasagrande
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Circles? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Whole band in a giant circle around the room. #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:35 PM EST
    #musedchat sit in a circle during a performance as opposed to lines #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116, @AmyLynnRever
  • scottcasagrande Nov 28 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Q2 - how did you start enticing special needs students into your large group performance ensembles? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • biljan22 Nov 28 @ 8:35 PM EST
    My Ss seem to do well in circles. Helps them to hear a bit better. May have to assign.#musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @MrBMusicTeacher, @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Absolutely love circle rehearsals. So much easier to get close to students who need extra help. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @jpulver116
  • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:36 PM EST
    #musedchat the younger students really enjoy mixed up fridays where seating changes
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher, @SamuelFritz
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:36 PM EST
    They have to feel like they can be successful. Celebrate their small steps & validate their presence! #musedchat
    In reply to @scottcasagrande, @jguarr
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A2: does anybody feel like Ss w/ special needs don't really need those same supports as when they are in a 'regular' classroom? #musedchat
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    #EduGladiators LIVE podcast TONIGHT! https://t.co/CyHKDtXyMV #nyedchat #njeachat #musedchat #LearnLAP #edtechchat #cdnedchat #flipclass
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Curious - have any of you done any music therapy? Anything offered in your school for Ss who can't quite join in w/reg ensembles? #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Depends on the nature of the needs. But I love that, in orch, we all start out as beginners, so no one is "behind"! #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:39 PM EST
    https://t.co/PTgRfPuNBI (I know) is a great site that gives Ss opportunity to play piano music by tapping, also an app #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:39 PM EST
    I think because we're a more physically active class a lot of the supports become less needed... #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Kind of...? I've had students w/ Down's. They struggle w/ reading and technique. So instead we working on feeling pulse #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Is this used in your school? Or just something you know about on the side? #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:41 PM EST
    B2: work with Sped Ts always try to make it work first. Tpt player with MS stand came from that mindset #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:41 PM EST
    During regular rehearsal? Or at a separate time from reg class? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:41 PM EST
    found out about it earlier this year and shared it with my special ed students, my one autistic S loves it. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:41 PM EST
    And just general immersion in a musical environment. During normal rehearsal. They've got a parapro at all times. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Another thought on working w/SPED students - go from a strengths-based approach. What CAN they do? Build from there! #musedchat
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:42 PM EST
    VERY cool!!! Thanks for sharing! #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused, @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:43 PM EST
    I've built so many strange contraptions to give Ss the chance to play. Backwards insts, milk jug handles rubber banded on, etc #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Hand drums, tambourines, shakers. We've gone from no pulse at all, to being able to echo simple rhythms. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:43 PM EST
    an aide at my school took clarinet lessons when her 1on1 did, apparently #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr, @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Great for motor skill development. I've had SPED Ts & OTs work practice time into their lesson because it targets these skills! #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I wish classes outside "core" were included in IEP more. Have Ss who w/ para support in other classes but not band. #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I find that special need Ss don't get all the time they need. suggested a class for them they can get more out of 1 #musedchat thoughts?
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Love that! #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused, @jguarr
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Same story here. Then I fight for peer tutors :-). And if that doesn't work...at least I tried! #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:45 PM EST
    that seems fishy to me. Either way, ESSA says music is essential now, let your admins know #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A2: is there help for the autistic student that feels stress during rehearsal #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:46 PM EST
    You mean not a music class? #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Stress in what ways? Sometimes breaks can help. I've had Ss who used noise canceling headphones to help w/ sound level #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Sometimes we are unsupported by design as we tend to modify for all needs and having a horn on your face tends to help behavior #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Maybe a permanent pass to take a short walk once a class? Get out of the crowded, noisy environment to reset. #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Breaks, noise cancelling headphones, sitting near the back (or where there is less sound) #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:48 PM EST
    instead of integration have a class only for special need students ie autism or down syndrome etc... #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Or option to put inst away and listen/follow along w/music (not all of the time, but on really tough days) #musedchat
    In reply to @lappel13
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:48 PM EST
    I've had two students wear earplugs at times #musedchat
    • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:46 PM EST
      Stress in what ways? Sometimes breaks can help. I've had Ss who used noise canceling headphones to help w/ sound level #musedchat
      In reply to @lappel13
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A2: Taking breaks is in many of my Ss IEPs. #musedchat
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:49 PM EST
    I ran something like this during my plan my first year. It was great! But couldn't keep it up w/o funding. #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • jpulver116 Nov 28 @ 8:49 PM EST
    I've thought about headphones, but doesn't that get in the way of the content? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Etymotics cut down on volume but still allow one to hear clearly. #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Ss w/autism often have heightened sensory input - I bet they could still hear enough! #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Something I'm struggling w/ too. Know they're behind & not keeping up.Time to work individually helps, but not always an option. #musedchat
    • lappel13 Nov 28 @ 8:48 PM EST
      have a S who knows he is not quite playing up to others and gets stressed
      In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:50 PM EST
    And I'd rather have them hear 25% and enjoy class than hear 100% and be too stressed. #musedchat
    In reply to @jpulver116, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • TriToneJones Nov 28 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Things I struggle with in chorus ensembles as well. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Can be hard to justify a class for only a couple of kiddos. Sad but true. #musedchat
    In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:52 PM EST
    @lappel13 Is it possible to reframe expectations? Cut a tricky part of the music out? Help them feel okay about it? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Phrase it positively - pick one song or part to be come an expert in, let that be their grade? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • MrBMusicTeacher Nov 28 @ 8:54 PM EST
    yes up here. It's a modified part that's all #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Most are in beginning band, we've only learned 8 notes, but could maybe simplify more? #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • JarvelaMused Nov 28 @ 8:54 PM EST
    our music department got audited when I was in college: "Why are there only five students taking quintet?" #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:54 PM EST
    LOL #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused, @Ms_A_Yeh
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Haha! #musedchat
    In reply to @JarvelaMused
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Feeling OK would be the hardest part. Don't like to be different from friends in class. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • SamuelFritz Nov 28 @ 8:55 PM EST
    @AmyLynnRever I get a 1-sem RTI band (with several SPED) handpicked 20. struggling with Ss evaluating correct-ness while playing #musedchat
    • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:51 PM EST
      Can be hard to justify a class for only a couple of kiddos. Sad but true. #musedchat
      In reply to @MrBMusicTeacher
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Or acknowledge that you see they are working hard but struggling, ask them what might help? #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:56 PM EST
    RTI band?!?!? Lucky you! #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz, @AmyLynnRever
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Totally. Helps if they know you're on their side & willing to do what it takes to help. #musedchat
    In reply to @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • Ms_A_Yeh Nov 28 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Nope - before/after school or lunch are the only options. #musedchat
    In reply to @ApexMSchorus, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • ApexMSchorus Nov 28 @ 8:59 PM EST
    ah. That does make a considerable difference. Also, sorry for the late #musedchat join at the end
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh, @AmyLynnRever, @lappel13
  • jguarr - Moderator Nov 28 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thanks for a fantastic chat tonight, everybody. Lots of excellent ideas to take back to the classroom. #musedchat
  • AmyLynnRever Nov 28 @ 8:59 PM EST
    After school is only option. That's why I encourage HS tutors. Gives more time options. #musedchat
    In reply to @Ms_A_Yeh, @ApexMSchorus, @lappel13