#mnlead Archive

A Twitter chat for leaders and learners. Sunday evenings at 7:00 CT.

Sunday January 15, 2017
8:00 PM EST

  • participatechat Jan 15 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #mnlead by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/AQiIE8qOan
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:01 PM EST
    WOW! #mnlead Mason "I WILL MESS WITH (Dallas) TEXAS" Crosby. (I am a vikings fan and that still makes me cheer). WOW!
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    On THAT note...we will start in just a second here. #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Sad for our #mnlead friend @wadestanford. Great season for your @dallascowboys. Our @Vikings were sitting home!
    In reply to @wadestanford, @dallascowboys, @Vikings
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Would someone please follow @SPPS_Richardson RIGHT NOW! He has 666 followers! #Creepy #MNLead
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Welcome to #mnlead! Here are our questions for tonight https://t.co/YkuIc95bP7 We will use the Q1/A1 approach.
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    I am sorry too Wade. Heckuva season. #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @wadestanford, @dallascowboys, @Vikings
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    done #MNlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    I'll preface tonight by saying that I thought it would be good to focus this conversation on classroom form / summative assessments. #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Here we go Steelers, here we go! #MNLead
  • wadestanford Jan 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    😩 #mnlead https://t.co/gcoJkWmkmr
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Thank you! #Whew #MNLead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Questions can be found here. https://t.co/YkuIc95bP7 #MNLead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Question 1 coming in 45 seconds... #MNLead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    MeredithstilltryingtogetoverthefactthatDallasdidn'twin from FL - born and raised in MN with Viking's purple running through my veins #MNlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Q1: Welcome! Say hello & share a recent example from outside of school when an assessment (& feedback) helped you improve a skill. #MNLead
  • shadow_uzumaki Jan 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    #mnlead chat topic today seems related to what many of my cohort #EEC324S17 is talking about. Nice
  • shadow_uzumaki Jan 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    #mnlead Altho its more to the point abt making mistakes&how to use to improve on that
  • PrincipalFrench Jan 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1) Mark here, elementary principal in the Hopkins district. I use feedback from my husband to improve my cooking. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Jim Smith, Lighthouse Learning Community and Assessment Associate - Solution Tree.. Forest Lake, MN #mnlead love the topic!!!
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Paul Richardson, Lit Specialist. Definitely did some formative assessment, conferring with my teary 3 YO at swimming lessons today #MNLead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:07 PM EST
    A1. Verbal feedback from recent eval observ helped me understand I needed to slow down and make a slight change in using a comp prog #MNlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:07 PM EST
    A1 Hello! I am currently using the @loseit app on iOS to track my calories and weight Using my @apple watch to track activity. #mnlead
    In reply to @loseit, @Apple
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:07 PM EST
    A1- Justin, Elem Principal in MN. I can't think of a time this week. Super excited to join! #mnlead
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Whew, I even watched the last 35 seconds of that game. Hi, I'm Melissa, recently re-elected MSBA director, #isd192 & #isd917 SB #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1 Hey All, Bret, Elementary Principal in Lakeville, MN. Getting feedback from my wife. She is my litmus test for ideas. #mnlead
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Dennis fro Long Island, NY #SKOL Vikings... Not outside of school, but our leadership team regularly does collective reflection. #mnlead
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Jenn Reichel, Dir. of Teaching & Learning in Hastings. Authentic assessment= will kids eat the new dinner recipe. #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Assessment=big topic. Achievement gaps are where inequities for our Ss of color are revealed. I did my best to have a variety of ?s #mnlead
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #mnlead Evening guys! Sorry I'm late, was on the subway. I'm Miah from @AchieveInc
    In reply to @AchieveInc
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Q2 coming up in one moment! #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    My adrenaline is coming down from watching that game. That was simply great football. #Mnlead
    In reply to @jm_kiel
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: I'm Eric and a first grade teacher in MN. I can't think of any thing recently outside of school. #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Chris, MS Principal from Farmington. Making appetizers for friends on Sunday Funday! #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Hi Miah! Glad to have you at #mnlead
    In reply to @dst6n01, @AchieveInc
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1 #mnlead Mark from So. St. Paul. Feedback is crucial for students. It is FAR more important than a grade. Allows studies to see new paths.
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: I get quite a bit of feedback from my assessment PLN. Always formative, always providing clarity. #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Kory, from SE MN. I've been assessing and giving feedback to my permitted 16 year old driver who will be taking her test in a week. #mnlead
  • amyinmonterrey Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1- Amy Young, elementary principal mn. My colleague gave me feedback on my communication style this week. It was super helpful. #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1.1 I am also using a @Google Sheet to follow my fantasy football team’s playoff progress. I had A.Rodgers & Crosby. #mnlead
    In reply to @Google
  • AssignmentHelpN Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    #mnlead #nbtchat #titletalk #vedchat #wischat 17 for ’17: Experts on E-learning & EdTech Trends for 2017 https://t.co/I9aiwWWsrV
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Hi Jenn! Always great to have you in the chat. #mnlead
    In reply to @JennReichel
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Thanks Dennis. SKOL! #mnlead
    In reply to @OHara_HPS
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    This made me laugh because I totally understand. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    I really appreciate honest and constructive feedback from colleagues. #mnlead
    In reply to @amyinmonterrey
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Q2: How can we help Ss understand the “why” of pre-assessment? How can we instill confidence in Ss, even if the pre doesn’t go well? #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Love my @apple Watch. Use it everyday for so many things. #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @loseit, @Apple, @Apple
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:11 PM EST
    That feedback is essential! And sometimes tough to provide new drivers. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Hi Jim! Happy to have you. How's your body feeling? I know you've been pushing it to the limit, but it seems you like it. #Mnlead
    In reply to @MrDataGuy
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:12 PM EST
    The @apple watch is a data gathering juggernaut. Also use it to time my visits to classrooms. Would stay forever otherwise! #mnlead
    In reply to @bretdom, @Apple
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: In TKD testing 4 qtrly based on a skill. I don't always get it right away, but learn what I need to for passing after. #mnlead #ata
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A2 By being honest with them. Explaining to them why we are doing this and how it can help them. Even kinders can understand this. #mnlead
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A2. Overtly share the why of pre-assessment with students then explain how you're using the data to differentiate. #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Hi Amy. Thanks for joining tonight. #mnlead
    In reply to @amyinmonterrey
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A2: At the HS level, being clear about what role a pre-assessment has in the grade book is important. Show how you use that data! #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    And the understanding feedback is like a gift. It is up to the recipient to use it. Or not. #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @amyinmonterrey
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Theres such an emotional component to assessment that trust is a huge part of constructive feedback #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @amyinmonterrey
  • KarenTeff Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A2: Instill a "not-yet" motto. Show how easy it is to make mistakes. My students see my mistakes all the time!! #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A2. You can help build buy in by actually doing something different for Ss if they already know it. #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Recently found these questions that would help a school Guide a conversation about grading. #mnlead
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A2: Incorporate a #growthmindset lesson when explaining pre-assessment. Give confidence by using the power of "YET." #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: Reassuring Ss a) Ts need to know what they can / cannot do & b) You don't want to teach them things they can already do! #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Better, thanks. Was able to push a bit over the weekend and it felt good. #mnlead
    In reply to @bretdom
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    welcome! Get ready for a 'fast' informative hour. #mnlead
    In reply to @jm_kiel
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2 #mnlead @chris_bussmann Absolutely. When Ss see you adapt for them & take it a different direction, they certainly buy in.
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2. Whether it is Ss or Ts I have often used this expression that highlights the growth mindset. #MNlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2 Frame assessment. “To provide the best learning experience, I need to know what you already know & don’t know about this topic.” #mnlead
  • massignmenthelp Jan 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #mnlead #nbtchat #titletalk #vedchat #psychedPodcast 7 Effective Lifestyle Changes To Help You Get Better Grades https://t.co/kWh2T6BCnt
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2:This is very difficult for my students to truly understand the "why" in 1st grade. They don't totally understand after explaining #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2: Its a good place to start the convo of moving from a culture of points to a culture of learning #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2 Pre-assessment is like a map,we need to know where we're going & where we've been. It helps guide us to the places we don't know. #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Yes! Nearly impossible to show growth w/o a starting point. And sometimes the growth is powerful, than simply the "A". #mnlead
    In reply to @OHara_HPS
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: My son struggled w/ this so much, possibly due to being ASD... Yet so glad recently he hasn't cared about his pre-test. #mnlead
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2 #mnlead It's key for Ss to know that "pre" helps set the foundation. Tie back to growth throughout & remind them off that growth!
    • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:10 PM EST
      Q2: How can we help Ss understand the “why” of pre-assessment? How can we instill confidence in Ss, even if the pre doesn’t go well? #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Hmm, what part don't they understand? #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: cont... My son's T's gave him extra support & gradually more space, plus I think maturity helped too. #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Trust. That's a good word for it. They have to trust a process for learning. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrDataGuy, @mahillmann, @amyinmonterrey
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    I enter my calories in @loseit. My scale reports my weight to the app, which tells graphs progress toward my goal. #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser, @loseit
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Mason Crosby 2017 > Blair Walsh 2016...it just kind of hit me. Congrats, Packers. #jealousabit #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Does he struggle with any and all assessments or just pre-test types? #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2. Even 1st grade Ss well understand charts that demonstrate their growth. We had them explain it to their families. #MNlead
  • KarenTeff Jan 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    #mnlead using learning progressions shows students where they have been, where they are & where they are going. They are life-changing
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    This is so much fun, this collaboration! Thank you all. Q3 is just a moment. #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2.2: you can instill confidence by celebrating the learning at the end, regardless of what the data says. #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    I like the “this tells me what you already know and what you don’t know so I can teach you what you need to know.” #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 #mnlead remember that a "pretest" can take in numerous dif forms. What can we come up with in the future? @SPPS_Richardson @OHara_HPS
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson, @OHara_HPS
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q3: How can we provide precise feedback for EVERY student? How can it be done w/out overloading teachers in Middle/High Schools? #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Meredith, you are a bevy of information. I always find your tweets insightful and usable. Thank you for sharing. #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Which then goes back to relationships and how they have to trust their Ts as well. #mnlead
    In reply to @bretdom, @MrDataGuy, @mahillmann, @amyinmonterrey
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    It’s why we are here! #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    They sometimes don't see the data from preassessments used even though I use it for different things #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Is buy in what we want? To me thats the opposite of what is needed - commitment to learning. #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @chris_bussmann
  • KarenTeff Jan 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    @mjjohnson1216 NO to every question!! They all go against standards based grading. #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    What do you mean they don't see it? They don't understand it or something else? #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • amyinmonterrey Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: I have seen students really engaged as they track their progress from pre assessment towards proficiency. Even in kindergarten! #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Q3: In ELA/Literacy world, conferring 1v1 or in small groups is key. Digital resources for 1on1 feedback are out there. What works? #mnlead
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A3. It's so hard! I has a MS/HS ELA tchr for 10 years. Always struggled with that #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Do you think that maybe now he's not stressed out as much because he understands why they do them? #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A winning combination. Understanding comes from guidance, support, patience and willingness. #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    To be fair, the Packers stuck with Crosby during his Walsh-like season. Vikings succumbed to public pressure. #mnlead
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    please share more. Maybe an example? #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Rocking it Paul! #mnlead
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Does he get stressed out on the test for Karate (and I apologize if I am not using correct word). #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3. So, I adopted a technique one of my profs from @umichLSA used:I picked 3 key asignments & gave very detailed feedback on those #mnlead
    In reply to @umichLSA
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3. and more specific, targeted feedback on other assignments #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3: Clearly define critical standards, evidence of learning and hinge points. Tight focus on what is important. #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    We are using our learning progressions in our PLC work. It works for S's and adults. So useful. #mnlead
    In reply to @KarenTeff
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    that's a good question. Was just thrilled at conf. To learn it wasn't an issue anymore. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3. By using technology as a tool for assessment. Here are some examples. #MNlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3.1 A mix of approaches. Automated feedback for low level skills. Teach self-reflection. Peer feedback. Individual conferencing. #mnlead
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: Adaptive testing w/ one-to-one devices helps with precise & individualized feedback. #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    We are using capacity matrix self assessments to say where our skills are. If a student can see the growth, they're in! #mnlead
    In reply to @KarenTeff
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3. Of course, it would be best if MS/HS teachers followed Stiggins' advice from 1993 - Ss assess themselves. #MNlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3 I love using video with the littles. We can watch them reading and then talk about strategies they used while reading. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Personal problem I have with the term "buy in" we are often asked to do this for compliance reasons #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @chris_bussmann
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Some of our most disenfranchised Ss need to know you'll do something different before they'll be vulnerable and commit. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrDataGuy
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3: Being precise in identifying strengths, areas for growth, & defining where/when of skills within curric= clarity 4 ALL students #mnlead
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Exactly or to guide teaching during RTI. This is how the students might not see how the data is used. #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @korytellers
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Excellent point, @mjjohnson1216! #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
    • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
      A3. Of course, it would be best if MS/HS teachers followed Stiggins' advice from 1993 - Ss assess themselves. #MNlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    You are too kind. I just love trying to help others by sharing resources. #MNlead
    • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Meredith, you are a bevy of information. I always find your tweets insightful and usable. Thank you for sharing. #mnlead
      In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • EHSMrsJ Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Real-time feedback > grading! ⬇️ #mnlead
  • keyverra Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    5 FORMATIVE ASSESSMENT TOOLS FOR TEACHERS 2017 #MNlead https://t.co/lpvQXajUhW
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3- the feedback should come throughout learning process- and in different ways. Not all need feedback on same task. #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Would the questions be a good beginning to start the conversations that need to take place? #MNlead
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3 #mnlead. Yup! Rubrics say what u got right/wrong, but don't provide interaction. Feedback w/ comments, ?s, suggestions, no matter grade.
    • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
      A3.1 A mix of approaches. Automated feedback for low level skills. Teach self-reflection. Peer feedback. Individual conferencing. #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    I would still go ahead&share with them some of that information. It really does help them understand. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade, @MarkJWestpfahl
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: I give feedback to students during our writing and reading work time. While you are conferencing provides an excellent time #mnlead
  • amyinmonterrey Jan 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: for ELA, mentor texts and exemplars are important so students can do a self assessment. Especially for multilingual learners. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Don't disagree, the certainly have to know the WHY, and it is a journey. #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Amazing! Have you seen self-assessing work well in high schools? I have Ts who are trying, despite ambivalence. #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3. Make decisions about what is to be assessed b4 designing the work. Narrow focus of assessment makes giving feedback reasonable. #mnlead
  • SupAnger Jan 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3) Changing the way we give feedback as Ts changes the way Ss respond to such feedback, this has great potential ramifications #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Students can learn how to look at the data so they can see OFI's. If we can teach that,it's empowering. Discussion deeper #mnlead
    In reply to @dst6n01
  • JackieC1989 Jan 15 @ 8:26 PM EST
    "Speak fully to his legacy, and let not the dream disappear upon your awakening." Must read for #MLKday #MNlead #EDchat
    • TheJLV Jan 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
      So for MLK Day, I choose to recognize him AND the ppl of the CRM collectively. Back then all the way through now. https://t.co/x1Yq1vPAik
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Are you using a workshop model? This seems to work well for primary grades. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:26 PM EST
    In 26 yrs of being a principal I hope some of the seeds I have planted have grown into a harvest :-) #MNlead
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3 - in secondary buildings technology call allow for more flex use of time/space to allow more 1:1 conversations #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: Ideally, we are modeling for students that success is in the details and that by focusing on clarity, we can truly self-improve. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
    From reading your tweets you do great work with building self-regulated learners. Just my word issue #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @chris_bussmann
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Yes, we use a workshop model for both reading and writing. It is the second year for our school #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Question 4 comiing in just a moment, here. #mnlead
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Workshop, Daily 5 model, etc all allow time for small group and 1-1 time. I've seen it work. #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @MrLee1stGrade
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    You are right, @dst6n01. Takes some time to help Ss learn how to give good feedback & ask ?s. Go slow to go fast. @mjjohnson1216 #mnlead
    In reply to @dst6n01, @mjjohnson1216
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A commitment to learning only comes with building success and earning trust. Focus on student #mnlead
    In reply to @dst6n01, @chris_bussmann
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Q4: Are we examining modes of assessment? How can assessments play to strengths, provide choice, be authentic, etc. for all Ss? #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    create a deeper learning experience that gives them choice too! #mnlead
    In reply to @MelissaSauser
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3.1 the most important piece of the feedback loop is feedback that the student gives to the teacher, self-assessment is key to this #mnlead
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    One of the single most important things a teacher can do. Feedback > grades. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    this reminds me of the lollipop moment story... U never know what influence you might have. #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216, @SPPS_Richardson
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    @Robcat17 Very true, it is sometimes for teachers to look past the grades and just focus on the feedback #mnlead
    In reply to @Robcat17
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Great point. If the time is flexible and tech is a tool for all then it can change the game for learning/personalizing #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Update - I am almost over the shock of Dallas not winning ::adding humor to an assessment conversation::: #MNlead
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3.2 tech can help track goal setting for students another big piece of the conference #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4 Depends on assessment type. Formative: getting better all the time. Summative: still work to do here. #mnlead
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Q4 #mnlead.In my upcoming unit, my #MNstudies Ss will get a choice board bingo assessment. They must complete dif levels of Blooms.
    • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
      Q4: Are we examining modes of assessment? How can assessments play to strengths, provide choice, be authentic, etc. for all Ss? #mnlead
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Ss should be considered as T designs ass't. Also ass't should clearly represent mastery- how a S gets their is choice & interest #mnlead
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: How about projects that give student voice & choice a priority. If they care about it, it will be more authentic. #mnlead
  • LisaDegnan1 Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4 We use assessment pretests. Ss can see where they are going into the week. The Ss work hard to show growth. #No matter how small #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: HS ELA Ts meet quarterly to critique/edit Com Assessments. Also creating rigorous, equitable options to support all learners. #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    This is huge…students tracking their own progress means more investment on their part. Shifts learning ownership. #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: Place emphasis on effort and process... #grit #growthmindset Offer multiple ways in which Ss can show what they have learned. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    I always go back to Hattie. We have to find ways to make formative eval and feedback happen. Make it embedded #mnlead
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Time needs to be the variable and learning the constant - not the other way around. Tech can support this change #mnlead
    • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
      Great point. If the time is flexible and tech is a tool for all then it can change the game for learning/personalizing #mnlead
      In reply to @bergjaso
  • AndyLeiser Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Hey all. Andy from #ISD200 - Hastings - bopping in and out. #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    This chat is way more challenging from my phone than Tweetdeck on my macbook! My thumbs are not helping! #mnlead
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4- Checks for understanding must provide for choice, voice, and interests for students to be engaged #mnlead
  • LisaDegnan1 Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4 Ss form their own goals based on pretests. Ss decide how they'll meet their own goals. #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Hattie's work won't guide us in the wrong direction. #MNlead
    • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
      I always go back to Hattie. We have to find ways to make formative eval and feedback happen. Make it embedded #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I’ve been there, my friend. Time to show your #growthmindset and persevere! ;) #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    THIS is the goal. Independent learners. #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @bergjaso
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Ask one of your kids to do the tweeting part as you speak your answers. :) #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Excellent point... Different rates for students, but constant learning. #mnlead
    • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
      Time needs to be the variable and learning the constant - not the other way around. Tech can support this change #mnlead
      • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
        Great point. If the time is flexible and tech is a tool for all then it can change the game for learning/personalizing #mnlead
        In reply to @bergjaso
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4 - we need to let students determine how they will share/show their learning #mnlead
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4: It is so easy to do the same type of assessment especially as a new(er) teacher. #mnlead
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4. One thing we can do better is realize ass. R not one-size-fits-all. We use assessments 2 do things they were never meant 2 do #mnlead
  • AndyLeiser Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A3: @Seesaw does this in a free, user-friendly environment for elem. It also lends itself to various types of feedback. #MNlead
    • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Q3: In ELA/Literacy world, conferring 1v1 or in small groups is key. Digital resources for 1on1 feedback are out there. What works? #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I made them go to the early service at church today. They have no favors to repay! #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Teachers need to be given time to create different types of assessments for their classroom. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • Ed_Realist Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Well, it would be fake guiding. Because by and large, the answers to all of these questions should be no. #mnlead
    • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
      Recently found these questions that would help a school Guide a conversation about grading. #mnlead
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    So true. It's about the students learning in their own time with the Ts supporting them in the best way to meet their needs. #mnlead
    • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
      Time needs to be the variable and learning the constant - not the other way around. Tech can support this change #mnlead
      • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
        Great point. If the time is flexible and tech is a tool for all then it can change the game for learning/personalizing #mnlead
        In reply to @bergjaso
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4. I"m happy 2 share our assessment inventory. It's free! https://t.co/nxK2NWBv26 #mnlead @achieve
    In reply to @Achieve
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4.1 I love the idea of Ss meeting competencies by collecting artifacts and using those artifacts to share their learning story #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Use the dictation tool on your phone. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers, @chris_bussmann
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Try using your talk to text feature on your phone, that might help a little. #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • LisaDegnan1 Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4 Make assessment fun & was to create S buy in. Use Google classroom. Flip your classroom. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    YESS and we must think about what is assessment, observation? Yes. S to S convos? yes. Many ways to assess. #mnlead
    • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
      A4- Checks for understanding must provide for choice, voice, and interests for students to be engaged #mnlead
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    It's their learning - they should be involved in tracking and assessing it #mnlead
    • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
      This is huge…students tracking their own progress means more investment on their part. Shifts learning ownership. #mnlead
      In reply to @bergjaso
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    #GreatMindsThinkAlike ;) #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @chris_bussmann
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Both of these comments are great @MrLee1stGrade. It's easy to fall back into the comfort zone of ease and time necessity. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • SupAnger Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4) Always ask, why am I giving this assessment and what data will come of it #mnlead
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4. along with modes, we should consider how we ask questions #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    And articulating why the artifacts demonstrate mastery of the content or skill. Teach students to advocate for their work. #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4 I think as Ts we need to remember that observing can be a wonderful assessment tool.I know it's not the best for collecting data+ #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    It takes time but if Ss ask each other these growth mindset type of questions, two will learn. #MNlead
    In reply to @dst6n01
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    wait, isn't Siri for that!?!@chris_bussmann #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Feedback in order of impact on learning - student to teacher, teacher to teacher, teacher to student #hattie #mnlead
    • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
      I always go back to Hattie. We have to find ways to make formative eval and feedback happen. Make it embedded #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    And…how will we use the data that comes from it to improve learning. #mnlead
    • SupAnger Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
      A4) Always ask, why am I giving this assessment and what data will come of it #mnlead
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4. Design authentic tasks and encourage students to decide how they can best meet the expectations. #mnlead
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Qualitative data! #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    +but we can learn so much from just watching&listening2our Ss. This may be more for the littles, but I think it can happen in MS/HS #mnlead
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Exactly! I think it's important for teachers to work together during PLC time. #mnlead
    In reply to @SupAnger
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4: Assmntscan be different-but at times, in pursuit of innovation, rigor drops or stray from standards. Must collab & be critical. #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Even these five questions would be a great start. #MNlead
  • LisaDegnan1 Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4 Ss held create questions based on Marzano's stems & Bloom's stems #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    See Wiiam - Embedded Formative Assessment -hinge points. 4min to assess, 2 to score. Critical points to assess. #mnlead
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Yes it is. Another time it's easy to continue to do the same thing is when you switch to a new grade or school #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Teacher observation is an undervalued piece of data. Capture via Google Forms, etc. on a mobile device. Triangulate! #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Exactly! #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    It can happen for all ages. They tell us more about their learning by words and actions in the classroom. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Question 5 coming up... I am really interested in the responses to these Qs. Tough convos in some buildings I work in. #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Yup. In K I carried around my phone and used a Google Sheet to quickly enter info. Also took lots of videos to use. #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    It takes PD and a culture that invites risk-taking and I think we're making progress on both of those fronts! #mnlead
    • AndyLeiser Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
      it's never been easier for student choice & voice in showing indiv learning but it can be uncomfortable for Ts stuck in past
      In reply to @JennReichel
  • AndyLeiser Jan 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    & be accountable for it. Some do it well, others work the the system and do min & say the right things. #MNlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade, @SupAnger
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Powerful on its own. Even more powerful when used in conjunction w/other data. Triangulation is key. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Just think how rich and varied Ss experiences and learning would be if that is how Ss met grad requirements!! #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Q5: Respond to the question below: how have you seen or could you envision this coming to life for all students? #mnlead
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    #MNlead on left half, tell me what you know about ______. After unit, On right half, tell me what you know about _____. Every1 learns some!
    In reply to @korytellers
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Formative and summative are the actions we take with assessment. No formative actionable response, its not formative. #mnlead
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Easy to have a conversation about what they learned informally. #MNlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    We had that when we started in MN — the Profile of Learning. Sadly, IMHO, educators killed it off. #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    this concept has been part of our strategic plan & is becoming part of our culture. @bergjaso #mnlead @AndyLeiser
    In reply to @JennReichel, @bergjaso, @AndyLeiser
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    I met w/ tchr teams last week... tchrs came w/ their observations 1st & validated w/ data (previously it was other way). Powerful. #mnlead
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Or... I used to think, but now I think... #mnlead #growthmindset #grit
    • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
      #MNlead on left half, tell me what you know about ______. After unit, On right half, tell me what you know about _____. Every1 learns some!
      In reply to @korytellers
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Such a great way to assess. Seeing growth is a powerful accelerant for future learning. Next unit becomes easier b/c they see value. #mnlead
    • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
      #MNlead on left half, tell me what you know about ______. After unit, On right half, tell me what you know about _____. Every1 learns some!
      In reply to @korytellers
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5 If they truly know their Ss they should know this was going to happen before the unit was over. #mnlead
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5. #mnlead besides happy hour?
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • AndyLeiser Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: Play to individual strengths. Surely someone had more success. What'd they do? Course correct. Ask. Try. Embrace failure. #MNlead
    • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
      Q5: Respond to the question below: how have you seen or could you envision this coming to life for all students? #mnlead
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5 - bigger question is how do Ts respond on a daily basis? Need to support before misconceptions become embedded #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5: Why did they not know before the end of the unit?One response is to align formative use with summative use. #mnlead
  • LisaDegnan1 Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5 Ts decide their next steps. Will they small group, flex group or retract based on the number of Ss w/ misconceptions? #mnlead
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5- it's all culture. They think "all hands on deck" and provide more time & support. Work together to ensure growth & mastery #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5. An effective PLC is truly a dedicated group of educators who examine student success. #MNlead
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Yes!! We want to bring it back!! Right .@BDuffrin #mnlead
    In reply to @BDuffrin
    • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
      We had that when we started in MN — the Profile of Learning. Sadly, IMHO, educators killed it off. #mnlead
      In reply to @bergjaso
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5: If these are critical standards there must be a response, summative becomes formative, or gaps emerge #mnlead
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5- Culture, true growth mindset, and relationships. Period. #mnlead
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I agree. I actually wish we would get away from using "Units" makes it seem like there is a beginning and end to learning. #mnlead
    • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
      A5 - bigger question is how do Ts respond on a daily basis? Need to support before misconceptions become embedded #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    This statement is really important, folks. To be formative, we must USE the data to improve learning for each S. #mnlead
    • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
      Formative and summative are the actions we take with assessment. No formative actionable response, its not formative. #mnlead
  • SupAnger Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5) So proud that our teams don't just accept results, but react by remediating, enriching, extending, reteaching, restructuringetc. #mnlead
  • LisaDegnan1 Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    #mnlead retract = reteach
    In reply to @LisaDegnan1
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    It's what we do on a daily basis!! 👍#mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5: At the high school level, with 45 day quarters, credits, GPAs in the mix, ensuring systems for redos (on the calendar) is key. #mnlead
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5. Can it really be the end of the unit if some students have not mastered the objectives? #mnlead
  • OHara_HPS Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5: The team does an autopsy without blame, investigates what they need to do differently & applies #growthmindset to themselves. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Embrace it, but if there are critical must know standards we must take action to correct - everyone over the bar. #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A5: Perfect discussion for PLCs to develop a plan to change the unit in the future and make sure students learn what is essential #mnlead
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    #mnlead Why do you prefer it that way?
    In reply to @jm_kiel
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A5: The "End" assumes a non negotiable need to move on Learning is the constant, time is the variable. Just like for all of us. #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5 Ideally, Ss who mastered move to enrichment or next topic. Ss not there yet keep working or move on & come back later. #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5: If Ts are day to day planned out, there is little flexibility. We need to be prepared to respond to those who need more time. #mnlead
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    How often do your teachers have time scheduled to look at this data during the school day? #mnlead
    In reply to @SupAnger
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:48 PM EST
    That's well said. Informal assessments should be telling the story before we get to the end. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:48 PM EST
    #mnlead A test says"Did you learn what I know?" But this says "What did you learn that I might not?" Way less intimidating.
    In reply to @bretdom
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Great! It's so good to get new ideas and continue to evaulate what you are doing in your classroom #mnlead
    In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @EducationMN
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Yup. I even hesitate to use words like "moving on." We are all moving on in our learning in some shape/form. #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser, @bergjaso
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5: One PLC I work w/, to create community embracing of it, asks all Ss not exceeding to retake summative assessments. #allkids #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Q6 coming up...in a moment... #mnlead
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    yes, Fail Faster. https://t.co/iXxDb7FTqQ @JennReichel @bergjaso @GustafsonBrad #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser, @JennReichel, @bergjaso, @GustafsonBrad
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Data can uncover issues of culture and community. We should embrace a wider view of what data can be. + #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    That is awesome! I know some schools have scheduled times every week so I was just curious. Thanks! #mnlead
    In reply to @SupAnger
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    YES! It might be the elementary T in me, but I just have never been much of a unit type of person-limits things too much. #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    That's well said. Remove the intimidation of "what you don't know" and get to a real place for learning and assessing. #mnlead
    In reply to @Robcat17
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    #mnlead Depends on how you define collaboration and what their goal really is. Collaborative doesn't necessarily mean effective.
    • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
      Q5: Respond to the question below: how have you seen or could you envision this coming to life for all students? #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Embedded formative assessment gives you the data you need during instruction promoting an agile response. #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade, @SupAnger
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Goes back to always observing and noticing what your Ss are doing. I am a terrible record keeper, but I do believe I do+ #mnlead
    In reply to @bretdom
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5.2: And if you are working to assess skills and not just pieces of info, you'll have an opportunity to do so again and again. #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    + Best data for culture is Leadership by Walking Around. Build trusting relationships. Culture is foundational. #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    #mnlead My team collaborates but we don't share test scores. Go figure.
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    +a great job of knowing my students and having it all up here (picture me waving around my head ;) #mnlead
    In reply to @bretdom
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Wondering what others think of this information from Hattie? #MNlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Just a shout-out pre-Q6- "Helping Students of Color to Meet High Standards" is an anchor text for me re: racial equity in schools. #mnlead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Huge emotional component to assessment for both student AND teacher for sure. #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • MinSchroeder314 Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Grateful for archive so I can catch up! Eating homemade cheesecake with my boys & 🏈sidetracked me. #SorryNotSorry #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Q6: Ferguson’s research shows redos/retakes are key for all students, specifically students of color. How can redos be effective? #mnlead
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Your thoughts? #MNlead
    In reply to @Robcat17
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Right. Or saying, "We'll come back to it." Not fair to any of our students and doesn't go along with lifelong learning. #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Remember, Ss can take dif roads to get to destination. We need to remind them of that & help them navigate when needed. #mnlead @bergjaso
    In reply to @bergjaso
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Flip that upside down! Go back to the 3 year old question of 400 Why's? Why? Why? Stay inquisitive. #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    when I was ESL para, I sadly overheard AP teacher lamenting about what to do after AP exams #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers, @AndyLeiser, @bergjaso
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    #MNlead I agree. Also, ego must be laid aside. And team must agree on the real goal.
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Um, has he never been in a kindergarten classroom? They ask questions All. The. Time. #AllTheTIme #MNLead
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Goes back to Hattie-teachers becoming students of their teaching , and students becoming teachers of their learning #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Interesting what a tremendous amount of information 2 and 3 yr old's learn compared with a 12 yr old. #MNlead
    • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
      Flip that upside down! Go back to the 3 year old question of 400 Why's? Why? Why? Stay inquisitive. #mnlead
      In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • bretdom - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6 Like with a driver's test, you don't get one shot to show what you know. Come back & show me what you know now. Retakes r a must. #mnlead
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6 opportunity to learn from errors - error analysis is the key to feedback and learning #mnlead
  • ECTrack2580 Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    But what happens by the time they are seniors??? Next to nothing from them. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A6- Builds culture of lifelong lrng & not "arriving"... we learn best from mistakes. Also shows learning is important, not grade #mnlead
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Completely agree. Data are clues to help us unlock S potential. Relationships must be in place for this to be useful. #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • Robcat17 Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    #MNlead Gotta run. Thanks for letting me sit in, hear some good ideas, and gain a few new connections! Have a great week!
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A6. Just like the brilliant @chris_bussmann said, "Learning is the constant, time is the variable." Redos offer the time to learn. #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    or a 1st grade classroom? #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Well then, maybe we should make HS more like Kindergarten. ;) #MNLead
    • ECTrack2580 Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
      But what happens by the time they are seniors??? Next to nothing from them. #mnlead
      In reply to @korytellers
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A6: If we didn't allow an opportunity to demonstrate continued and deeper learning, how many of us wouldn't have one of these? #mnlead
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Is this because Ts are sometimes so focused on limiting the discussion to get through their lessons? #mnlead
    In reply to @ECTrack2580, @korytellers
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Yes!! We also need to remember they may take different amounts of time on their journeys - we need to give them that time!! #mnlead
    • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
      Remember, Ss can take dif roads to get to destination. We need to remind them of that & help them navigate when needed. #mnlead @bergjaso
      In reply to @bergjaso
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    I think that would be awesome. :) #mnlead
    In reply to @ECTrack2580
  • mjjohnson1216 Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    In appreciation toward all of those who shared and moderated the conversation tonight in #MNlead - you are appreciated!
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6 Redos are essential in truly adopting a growth mindset and a ‘not yet’ culture. #mnlead
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6 #mnlead I ask students to think before a retake, of the challenges that keep them from "achieving" success (or eroding in my part here)
    • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
      Q6: Ferguson’s research shows redos/retakes are key for all students, specifically students of color. How can redos be effective? #mnlead
  • dst6n01 Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6. what do you mean by redo/retake? #mnlead The exact same assignment again, or something else?
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    As a member of fraternity Phi Gamma I-Failed-My-First-AND-Second-Driver's-Test, I am grateful. & I'm a good driver. #mnlead
    In reply to @bretdom
  • MelissaSauser Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    @bretdom makes me wonder, does the structured 'factory school' model stifle their curiosity? Or what does? #mnlead
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216, @bretdom
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    This just in. Continue chatting assessment with Minnesota's own Cassandra Erkens @cerkens as she leads the next #ATAssess chat #mnlead
  • chris_bussmann Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Ha ha, those famous words are not mine! #mnlead
    In reply to @JennReichel
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Honestly, it's still in all my classes grades 1-5, maybe I'm doing something wrong? ;) #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade
  • ECTrack2580 Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    I think you nailed it there. Sometimes there is just so much high level material to cover in a year #mnlead
    In reply to @MrLee1stGrade, @korytellers
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Isn’t the driver’s test an excellent example? What percentage fail the first time? #mnlead
    In reply to @SPPS_Richardson
  • jm_kiel Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A6a- Models what we value- the learning process. Has nothing to do with being punitive or putting a score on the learning #mnlead
  • JennReichel Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    But you made them famous in this chat tonight! #mnlead
    In reply to @chris_bussmann
  • MrLee1stGrade Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    I've seen videos of your classrooms, the students are always so engaged in your activities. Engagement leads to ?s #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Our current system has sucked the fun of learning out of them by then, they have learned to "play the game" #mnlead
    • ECTrack2580 Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
      But what happens by the time they are seniors??? Next to nothing from them. #mnlead
      In reply to @korytellers
  • MarkJWestpfahl Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A6 cont. #mnlead I often will change the premise of the question(s) for my Ss at that point. They can think of it in a dif way. Often helps.
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Relationships r necessary to move the needle. When we relate AND use data to guide learning? Unstoppable. #mnlead
    In reply to @mahillmann, @AndyLeiser
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    +trying to cram so much in. Even in MS/HS I think we can do better with less. #mnlead
    In reply to @ECTrack2580, @MrLee1stGrade
  • MrDataGuy Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Love how you think Justin, a focus on learning #mnlead
    In reply to @jm_kiel
  • bergjaso Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Yesssssssss!! I am totally in 👍#mnlead
    • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
      Well then, maybe we should make HS more like Kindergarten. ;) #MNLead
      • ECTrack2580 Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
        But what happens by the time they are seniors??? Next to nothing from them. #mnlead
        In reply to @korytellers
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Time flies...CTA coming up! #mnlead
  • SPPS_Richardson Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    CTA: What conversations, norms, or learning will you engage with to make assessment as equitable as possible? What's next for you? #mnlead
  • ECTrack2580 Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    I have to agree. I cover what I can so the students learn the material, not so I get thru it all. #mnlead
    In reply to @korytellers, @MrLee1stGrade
  • mahillmann - Moderator Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Great take! It isn’t an ‘either-or’ but ‘and’. Relationships + variety of data + doing something w/it = S acceleration. #mnlead
    In reply to @AndyLeiser
  • korytellers Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    From what I know about Farmington I think you are already on your way there-lots of good things going on there. #mnlead
    In reply to @bergjaso