#oklaed Archive
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Sunday June 26, 2016
Kevin Hime Superintendent Checking in from
Please introduce yourself and share your favorite education meme!
Shawn Hime - Oklahoma State School Boards Association
Drew Robinson, instructional technology coach, Tulsa Public Schools
Don't forget to share your memes!!!
Drew price - instructional coach ...
OKC public schools
Debbie Thoreson, P of 1st grade girl, T of English 3 & AP, Dewey Public Schools, no memes to share, but I love seing them!
Kim, Little Axe 5th grade, a nervous wreck bc my daughter is driving in this mess. I will be trying to pay attention.
Megan Cannon, STEM teacher!! I'll have to find a meme...
I could be rusty as well - a pretty first final going on right now. 2 red cards already!
Anne Beck, checking in from Be in and out tonight! Really excited about the MeMe's
I may have just snickered and giggled all over myself…
I know, my meme isn't CM related, but very true. LOL
Adam Rogers. CTE Technology Resource Coordinator. OKCPS. I don't have any memes!!
Jason James. advocate - hopeful for a change on Tuesday - husband to
Amanda Smith, 5th ELA/SS, Moore
Oh.My.Gawd! This is too good!
Jennifer Seitsinger, 1st grade, Moore
My meme game is going to be lacking bc I'm a nervous parent.
Michale Gentry, NPS 3rd grade T, memeless but not meaningless
Terri Cullen associate prof
you are famous if you have your own face on a meme
Oh so true! Yet some people think it is equality that matters!
we made memes one day - this one made me laugh. The gum just hanging…
A1 How important it is to be consistent, not only at the beginning, but all year. Start strong, finish strong.
A1 -- that it's OK not to have all the answers... Trust kids' hearts.
Tyler Bridges Asst Supt and current participant.
Nancy Williams Reading Specialist Idabel Primary South signing in
AMEN. They just threw me a Harry Wong book and said go for it!
Kendra Miligan, K-6 Phys Ed, Moore
uh….use Kermit…nothing bad ever comes from Kermit.
A1 it's ok to smile before October.
YES! Cannot tell you how many times people told me NOT to smile.
A1 That it's ok to not control your kids 100% of the time It's ok to have an off day or week. It's ok to fail.That everything is ok.
A1 You don't have to get it all right on Day 1. Make mistakes and there's no magical formula for success!
A1 That when I was dealing with one 8th grader, the rest were plotting against me.
A1: Not to think in terms of 'right way' and 'wrong way', but 'effective for you with this particular group in this one situation'
Chris Howk, Beggs HS Principal
probably from a that I took on a students phone also….leave those phones out - I use them!
A1 there is very little if anything I could force my S's to do. I wish I understood better the dangers of the power struggle.
8th graders will do that to ya...
A1: That procedures are so important, practicing procedures for a few weeks will save you time and heartache later
Hilarious - and oh, so true!
And you probably have a flat on BOTH tires!
A1: Don't try to give directions when Ss are unfocused and still settling. You'll just be repeating yourself over and over again.
A1- that building Relationships is the most important thing you can do. Students know who is REAL and who cares.
A1: that some kids just come in the room for the reason to disrupt, and how to disarm them effectively.
A1: I wish I'd known that if a kid says they're about to throw up, that means they're about to throw up.
Absolutely! Start the year right by taking that first risk of smiling!
A1 That it was ok to try and fail.
A1) What exactly is it - how do I do it - will I ever get it…
Jennifer Ellis, high school science. I didn't do my homework! 😳
A1 It’s okay to make adjustments if it isn’t working. Ask other Ts what they are doing.
It's all about relationships and trust!
I have given up the struggle. It has liberated me! :) Others just want to control. Sometimes you gotta let go.
A1: That everything I learned in college was crap. 😂
A1 - anything. my first year began 1 week and 1 day after school started, it’s a miracle I made it.
that wasn't til my second year... ;)
A1: How important the first 5 minutes are every single day.
That is true. Every class seems to have its own personality.
A1: Wise T told me - "Find your style, whatever that is - but then stick with it. Be consistently YOU."
A1 It's more about relationships than rules.
yes I think the " don't smile till Christmas" line needs to end
I call this "go slow to go fast"
Love this!! https://t.co/edqlwjmdUj
A1: Not to think in terms of 'right way' and 'wrong way', but 'effective for you with this particular group in this one situation'
A1 It's ok to make mistakes. It's ok to change things up. And it gets better!
A1: I wish I had known what our Vice Principal was for! Also, it's okay to lose your tempter, subtly, on occasion.
A1. Every day/yr is different. If you have a bad day/yr, know that the next day/yr may be awesome. https://t.co/X81Cl5Qv7L
A1: The power of whispering to a student. Never embarrass them.
Yes. Sets the tone for the whole period. https://t.co/iyjxUyok2b
A1: How important the first 5 minutes are every single day.
Kylie Jackson joining a little late. 1st yr 5/6 Social Studies
A1) That I don't have to emulate my mentor's CM style. It's ok to use my personality as a CM tool.
A1: "They don't care how much you know until..." - actually, they never care how much you know. They just don't. Get over it.
A1- this is going to be my first year but after student teaching I've learned that yelling doesn't help.
A1) I wish someone would have taken the time to show me how to incorporate the tech. I had in my class. https://t.co/GFds1dbIel
A2: to treat students with respect and as actual humans.
A1 - 20 years ago, we did not use freq common assessments. Wish I would have had a buddy teacher as a measuring stick
A2: R-E-S-P-E-C-T it's a funny thing, you give it, they return it. Simple as that!
Understanding how to work with S's is where it's at. Pushing & forcing just causes trouble. https://t.co/szGuy4M5yy
I have given up the struggle. It has liberated me! :) Others just want to control. Sometimes you gotta let go.
A1b Classroom management doesn't mean you always have a quiet class.
a1) Honestly, grateful my 1st year was long before the time when so many ppl wanted to manage ME. .
A2 -- Oh, & seating charts. I was old & needed to learn names fast.
Huge thing to go into the classroom knowing https://t.co/uaUiin8zUB
A1- this is going to be my first year but after student teaching I've learned that yelling doesn't help.
A2: A joke & a nick-name for each student. HS & MS students love it.
A2: Teach from your feet, use proximity.
there is something to that ..but it should be, be a caring adult be a teacher NOT their friend
A2: With freshmen? Insults and looks of dismay. If you have to get serious, take it aside or outside. https://t.co/QLlpLq53DN
A2: I won't say I have a strategy to "control" 25 plus children. I'm not here to control them. Ugh, i hate the word control!
A2 set clear/high expectations early and be consistent, reasonable, fair, and professional...even when you don't want to.
A1: That in reality the term "classroom management" itself is misleading. I didn't sign up to be a manager of students.
Janalyn Taylor, Clinton principal, A1 Asking for help is not a weakness, it means you want to do better. All need help. It's ok.
A2: I'm for real with that seating chart thing! When you have 50 plus children in one room you need it!!!
Mostly because we have no point of reference for CM - we have never had to do it.
This is what I do. Ask if S is OK, ask if S will go back and work, usually solves the problem.
A2: Teacher hand on the table. Walk by, place hand on table near offending child. They get the point, you didnt call them out.
A1: I wish I had known that the Jr. Class Sponsor had to do the prom. CR Management suffered with all that nonsense.
Late but I'm here. Leslie, 5th grade, Moore
A2 - planning bell to bell with engaging lessons. If S’s are engaged in learning behavior is not a problem
A2 a positive atmosphere from day 1 is maybe the best CM strategy. That with solid structure & procedures & you're on your way
A2 Logical consequences, respect...
I wish I'd been so lucky. I definitely learned that one the hard way.
Kids could always tell when I wasn’t “me”
I couldn’t be someone else or have their CM…
A2 Humor (not sarcasm). Works for kids and adults...most of the time!
and out of the gate no https://t.co/NopwyVmZjT
Andrea Gaines, Union HS Science; no pass, just late
A1: tomorrow is a new day; you can smile on the first day, kids need structure & freedom
A2: after last week's GE class it will be going back and reviewing the 8 principles and Magic Triad!
Using Love and Logic positive statements "I will begin when everyone is quiet" And add more humor! https://t.co/XFr7DoQKNH
And when you had 160 new students every 18 weeks, seating charts saved my bacon.
A1- Great ideas will die a horrible death if you don't have consistency.
I know if I end my day super frustrated, it is time to redo the seating charts! https://t.co/QNZxALCkF6
A2: I'm for real with that seating chart thing! When you have 50 plus children in one room you need it!!!
A2: save the students dignity = save the relationship
A2)never had a discipline problem while out of my seat and on my feet
A2: My Ss get a chance to act right before there are any punishments - no seating chart, no limits on gum, etc., until necessary
A2 having a plan so everything is on purpose. nothing left to chance. https://t.co/1Bt2ElF35v
A2: I'm for real with that seating chart thing! When you have 50 plus children in one room you need it!!!
A2) Messy. It seemed to work for me. My rooms are never quite, yet are always moving forward. https://t.co/aYBEaw76Gu
A student once critiqued my seating chart & pointed out all the weaknesses...he was right! LOL
A2: For strong classroom management, keep a wood chipper nearby and running. Only have to USE it once. https://t.co/wp7xoLtWBT
Only time I have trouble managing my classroom is a week before school is out. hahaha
A2 Look for positive behaviors, compliment and genuine praise. Make your kids feel like you can't do your best without them
Oh so true! All the time - and usually the same student or two every time!
Yup. My question is usually "what can we do together to make sure you are successful?"
A2: Duct tape. For me, not the students. Sometimes I just need to keep my mouth shut.
A2: I change up the seating charts because I never want them to get to comfortable!
A2: reinforce behavior you want to see I order to make THAT normal...
Understanding that we can hold S's accountable w/out demeaning and degrading them. https://t.co/V5CCEifz88
A2: save the students dignity = save the relationship
Exactly! I want my Ss to know that I am there to help them succeed. That is my goal.
A3: Talking back. I address it one on one bc I am not a fan of public humiliation for anyone. Handle that in private.
Q2: When Ss are being disruptive, simply stop talking, take step to the side & wait. They'll figure it out. Say TY and move on.
A2: Transition times are key!
A2: Try not to let them get bored.
I would ask "What are U doing 2 help create a positive learning environment in our class?"
And she's a pro folks. All of should witness. https://t.co/1FWrdDtVlg
A2 Look for positive behaviors, compliment and genuine praise. Make your kids feel like you can't do your best without them
once should do the trick!
A2 Provide them with engaging, meaningful assignments that provide at least some choice.
Has anyone in ever had a discipline problem while on their feet and engaged with students
A2: Postive parent contact within the first week. Yes, a contact to each kid's home in the 1st week. Before trouble comes.
A: Positive relationship, be respectful of the student, expectations outlined
Hey, ! Evin from Seattle. 9th grade ELA & SS. Slept in 'til 2 PM. Only on day 2 of summer.
Using Love and Logic positive statements "I will begin when everyone is quiet" And add more humor! https://t.co/sdF1809O0u
A3 interrupting someone...drives me nuts. Repeat offenders & I have a one on one about how that will NOT go over in the workplace.
Transitions are maybe the hardest. Must purposefully plan for them or they will eat your lunch! https://t.co/O9ma4iDYcG
A2: Transition times are key!
A3 - Arguing. I refuse to argue w/S’s. Instead the S and I will have a conversation in the hall, keep kids out of fight or flight
A3 Repetitive noises - pens clicking, humming that I can't identify. You know, the classics. https://t.co/D4AMAgcaOT
A3: SS trying to justify being disrespectful. IMO, there is no justification...ever.
A2- Set high expectations and use natural consequences. Make them responsible for their own behavior.
A3: We shouldn't have one, right?
That I needed a few procedures to practice
Debbie Hoffman, Cache 5/6, fmr ELA
Debbie Hoffman Cache 5/6 Prin, fmr ELA
A2. Private visit. Looking past the facade a student carries to school, & sometimes new seating 😜
A3: Kids who try to hijack the class -they waste everyone't time!
I used to do duct tape once in awhile w/ kids, but then Ts starting ending up on the news for that sort of thing,..
Relationships, procedures, preparation and some grace.
A3: My #1 pet peeve was always "Hey, did we do anything yesterday? I was absent."
A3: yelling answers & not giving others a chance. So I constantly repeat expectations, they need reminders. https://t.co/2XuyUaOiZz
A3- Lying. If you do it, be honest about it. Own it.
A3 -- Copying work and plagiarism. I'd make copies of papers, staple, return with grades divided. No comment. None needed.
A4. How students enter the classroom- it sets the tone. I make sure I'm at the door and they know a routine. https://t.co/mDS0ARMOWg
A3) Ss not giving effort cause "it's too hard." Or having the know it all attitude like they don't have to do the activity.
A3-Week 1 of school: They list all of their pet peeves. We agree to respect everyone's. Then I give them my list.Bam! Mutual respect
oh...and for the student in questions...haven't found a way to solve the lying problem
A3 S's that won't talk & let you in. Have to find a way to establish a relationship.
It happens. I run my room pretty loosely, so it's partly on me, but I'd rather have to rein in than stir up. https://t.co/rfgAm4MB1F
Has anyone in ever had a discipline problem while on their feet and engaged with students
I really, really, really like taking selfies. On students phones….
It's not usually outright defiance or such - just not making good choices w/ boundaries and appropriateness. https://t.co/rfgAm4MB1F
Has anyone in ever had a discipline problem while on their feet and engaged with students
A3) I can handle a lot of things, but that sense on entitlement that a few have burns my biscuits! https://t.co/n7cM3mMQ5N
A3 -- I would get frustrated by kids talking when I was talking. I just got silent & waited. Visual kids would alert auditory kids.
A4 Thinking almost a decade in the classroom made me impermeable to CR mgmt issues and I could wing it. https://t.co/wG3hAl1BJR
A3: When they don't understand that a simple "yes ma'am" and a change of behavior is so much better for them than arguing!
A2) Stop and wait. They realize what's going on.
A3: Talking while I talk. I hate it. I always wait for them. Love and logic: What we don't finish in class is HW.
A3: Ts yelling at Ss or telling them to shut up! For kids, failure to read what I've written on the board. I just point.
A4: I backed down when a plagiarist was backed by the president of the school board - his dad. He should have failed, but I caved.
A3: when people complain but don't take action. I don't allow my boys to do that in my house. https://t.co/L9jbDmzRFh
A4:State test day, lockdown, kids being noisy, I used the word shut up. I learned that it works! Hunkered down, i was stressed.
I once told a group of colleagues who were talking during a presentation, "I'll wait."
A4: Too many rules! Little did I know, seventh graders aren't too fond of these. Failed and fixed.
I say "timeout" and make the timeout sign, like from sports. It works and MS doesn't think it is hokey.
Good for you. Ts can be an awful group to present to! (Not always!!)
A3: The old "teacher lost my paper" excuse. Because teachers are evil like that. Kids who used that excuse had to get a receipt
A4 Biggest fail this year? Or ever? Because there are lots to choose from!
Ugh...that kid just learned the WRONG lesson, huh? Sorry.
A4) Not following through on something the first time and then having to deal with the headache of why I did the next time.
Sidebar conversations when someone is speaking to the class: The stop and stare
A4 Early as a teacher, thought kids were supposed to respect me and listen just because I was one adult at the front of the class.
A4 1st year believing that my MS S's just needed some discipline & I was exactly what they needed! They showed me!
A4: I had way to being rules my first year. But I adjusted to just three.
A4: My name's Andrea; I tried to run my class like someone else.It didn't work.I used my yelling voice. it's been 10+ yrs;
A4 I was a shouter when I first started teaching. I grew out of it. I was good at making things worse. https://t.co/m9wwIu8Y98
A4: One year, I tried to build in reward system where Ss could earn chances to win prizes for pos behavior. A total disaster! .
A4) I have to many “fails” to count. I also learned tons from each one. Reflection made me better.
https://t.co/WNvfLTiHlO
A4: I don't know my biggest, I fail all the time... We arent growing if we aren't failing
A4: Any time I let a student's behavior get to me and didn't readily realize that it wasn't about me in that moment.
Think about how principals feel during faculty meetings https://t.co/pvta5uF3N5
A3 -- I would get frustrated by kids talking when I was talking. I just got silent & waited. Visual kids would alert auditory kids.
I had a list floor to ceiling! Was really a "how to get out of Mr. Wards class" list. https://t.co/jdNEXIgPkE
A4: Too many rules! Little did I know, seventh graders aren't too fond of these. Failed and fixed.
A3. Talking during another's time & pencil tapping.
Yeah, as did the entire next year of incoming juniors. Now their Ps sign their syllabus with a plagiarism agreement
A4: Oh god, so many from which to choose - snarky comments that hit way wrong are the worst. Being 'edgy' sometimes goes OVER it.
I think I need to go to therapy for using the word shut up to students. Like it has scarred me.
A4b: Bribing kids to act the way they should anyway teaches the wrong lesson and is exhausting.
A4 - trying to force a “bad” lesson all day. It’s okay to scrap what’s not working in the moment and try something else
A4: In my coaching days...getting way too angry @ players for stuff they were working their hardest at.
A4- Taking behavior personally/letting it upset me. I learned to take a few steps back b4 handling upsetting issues.
A4 -- I made elaborate classroom rules and tried to follow them all. I didn't trust kids. Didn't show I loved them.
A4: I've had 'creative' lessons I had to stop halfway through and apologize for the 30 minutes of their lives they'll never get back
A4- Bought this huge crate of pens/pencils at an estate sale. Set them out for anyone who forgot theirs. Gone within a week
Luckily, I learned from it! It'll never happen again. I'm tougher for it.
A4: I also know that without my failure I would have never known that I needed to get better!
A4 I need to work on this. Not so much the rules part, but letting the Ss know I love them.
I would argue as long as they would. Arguing w/MS kids....... Not much sense in that! https://t.co/VZKrGa5VR7
A4 I was a shouter when I first started teaching. I grew out of it. I was good at making things worse. https://t.co/m9wwIu8Y98
calling a student out and giving them the stage was one of my biggest mistake and try not to repeat! https://t.co/69s0veDxqv
I did a prize system like that when I taught 1st. It was sooo much to keep up with and not effective at all!
A4: not differentiating and realizing how if I up my game and expectations the majority will rise #10:80:10
I think all teachers have things that “they are good at making worse” its how we come out of that phase
I let a student get to me in class and said something I was completely ashamed of. I'll never forget it & I learned big time.
A4) Teaching what I wanted instead of the standards or blueprints
A4 creating a discipline plan that's too complicated...I have to keep it simple!
A4 - as a new T, I was afraid to call parents. I’ve learned to call/email early on. P’s are the best resource
A4. I started with Assertive Discipline back in the day! Yikes. We do better when we know better
Which is why I loved my hallway talks. Privacy and no posturing.
A5 Intentional non-learners...I'm like What's not to like about this awesome class?!!?
OMG YES. Doesn't happen much anymore, but anytime it gets personal - THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS.
A5 Every year is dif & you have to change what works from year to year. Each class has a dif personality. https://t.co/k36AWNiF7s
A5: I struggle w/ talking to my Ss like they're my actual children. I can't call them mean girls or big babies.
A5-trying to find a less gross way for my students to get rid of there gum other than having them put it in my hand.
A4 Listening to a former A who told me that at the school there was "zero tolerance for classroom disruption."
A5 taking the time to talk 1 on 1 with S before their behaviors cross the line. Sigh. I do try, but...need to do better.
there has been a time or two that I probably said something I shouldn’t have - then it out there…
yes! which is what we want to show each other! We all make mistakes, it is what we do with it! https://t.co/nhbncnxTbR
A4: I don't know my biggest, I fail all the time... We arent growing if we aren't failing
. It's hilarious when Ss are presenting and they notice l you are not focused as the T & say I'll wait. 😳
A5: Patience. Dealing w/ TT & SS...I wanted all that done yesterday!!! lol
A5: asking for help or admitting I need help
A4: Notice the sudden unanimity of responses? 80% are variations of 'losing perspective' / 'taking it personally'
A5: Really listening and offering my opinion when it isn't wanted
A5 -- building classroom climate and trust takes time. I'm impatient. Want the magic to happen immediately. It can't.
A4: Someone tell all the newbies they don't suck when this happens - it's a common thing with which we struggle, but we get better
I feel very judged in this chat. LOL! ;-) JK but exposing some wounds here. LOL
I now ask Ss for their leftovers at the end of the year and provide those to the current year's students
A5 The kid who just doesn't care no matter what I try...
Def hard, especially at a new position. You want to seem impressive, not needy. d https://t.co/Rd4J46PXw0
A5: asking for help or admitting I need help
A5) Getting frustrated with As and dealing with the Ss that are funny but disruptive.
A5- Getting to know those quiet kids that sometimes fall between the cracks and don't get enough attention.
A5: Keeping up w/ the pace of the questions is probably my biggest struggle right now. Does that count? https://t.co/8CtBzeua0N
I should be lying down on the couch or something.
A5) Not so much the nuts and bolts anymore-but how far can I push my students through the chaos of learning
https://t.co/li9NbUxTB0
He or she has a story we don't know...we DO contribute! Just can't see it.
why you are good, ss need to see us be honest and that we are trying but we are not perfect, and we know it. https://t.co/fCh2EQEk8j
A4: I've had 'creative' lessons I had to stop halfway through and apologize for the 30 minutes of their lives they'll never get back
A5)I feel like I've failed so many times, yet I've learned from my mistakes & improved. I'll never claim to have it all figured out!
A5: Apathy and indifference. Nothing is more challenging than a kid who truly doesn't give a damn. Hard to break through their wall.
something to be said for consistency
Relationships, relationships, relationships. (It doesn't matter what the question is.)
A5 I still get hung up on a quiet classroom. I need to let go a bit. I'm such an introvert...
A4)I feel like I've failed so many times, yet I've learned from my mistakes & improved. I'll never claim to have it all figured out!
Oh, I dunno - sometimes I think this is a pretty good choice to make... https://t.co/pZswO2oMGk
A4) Teaching what I wanted instead of the standards or blueprints
A5. Questioning. Always looking to cultivate a learning environment based on inquiry= more engagement https://t.co/E6wpkpcQlL
Q6: Ts-what do you wish your admin knew about your CR Management? Admin-what do you wish Ts knew? https://t.co/fI9OWhqFNv
This! Without a relationship kids won't want to learn from us and with us. https://t.co/Bntbdc6OKo
Relationships, relationships, relationships. (It doesn't matter what the question is.)
A5 Always struggle as A with best way to handle each situation, leaving Ss and Ts feeling respected and situation better.
A5 my biggest struggle right now is arguing w/people/politicians that will never change the way they think! moved on from MS kids
me too! But I (slowly) have learned to embrace the chaos so long as learning is happening. But it's tough!
A6 Please remember that I am human too! I have good and bad days just like SS. I am doing my best! https://t.co/Gjv2TNf4I7
Q6: Ts-what do you wish your admin knew about your CR Management? Admin-what do you wish Ts knew? https://t.co/fI9OWhqFNv
A5: Finding myself each year. I always want to do NEW & BETTER things sometimes at the expense of losing myself and my style of CR.
I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Any pointers? https://t.co/uRJ98PBh6M
me too! But I (slowly) have learned to embrace the chaos so long as learning is happening. But it's tough!
Don't be so hard on yourself. I've felt like saying that before, too. .
We all have wounds/issues - we are human and carry the fate of the world in our classrooms :-)
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I feel very judged in this chat. LOL! ;-) JK but exposing some wounds here. LOL
A6 - If I send a S, I have done the leg work, called parents, tried to build a relationship etc. We need a break form each other
A7 I'm fortunate my admin gets me...understands my class is filled with noisy learning!!
A6: I always welcome constructive criticism. Please, give me advice and time to watch others teach! https://t.co/tPjodeWmMj
Q6: Ts-what do you wish your admin knew about your CR Management? Admin-what do you wish Ts knew? https://t.co/fI9OWhqFNv
A6 -- Relationships bt teachers & principals are as important as Ts & Ss. We need to forge partnerships.
A6 the Ss in my classroom today are not the same as the Ss you had in your classroom 20 years ago...
lol. Except for the times when they walk back into class with a smirk/snide comment...🙄Lesson not learned!
There is always a story we don’t know. https://t.co/n1XMWeKiqy
He or she has a story we don't know...we DO contribute! Just can't see it.
A6: Please know that my classroom is chaos. But the good kind of chaos.
A6: When I visit your room, I don't want to see kids sitting silently all the time. Like seeing a puppy in a carrier- makes me sad!
A6: I just wish everyone knew how important cr management is, procedures, procedures, procedures
A6 That CRM is a learning curve. 33 year old me would have fired 22 year old me. 44 year old me would have told 33 me to chill.
A6: That if I'm your "go-to" for CM, this is going to be a long year for the both of us.
I walked in last, slapping my hands, making sure the class thought I'd solved the problem. I understand.
No judgement, we all struggle, we wanted this to be about growth! https://t.co/uTUsEi1X2R
I feel very judged in this chat. LOL! ;-) JK but exposing some wounds here. LOL
I missed question 6 I was celebrating my daughter being home.
A6- when kids are active and noisy, that's how they learn best! (Got dinged on an eval once bc my kids weren't quietly in rows)
It kept me out of a conflict this year - I just brought out the paper with the S & P signatures!
Hard for me to answer - my Admin was always supportive and had great ideas for me to consider.
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Q6: Ts-what do you wish your admin knew about your CR Management? Admin-what do you wish Ts knew? https://t.co/fI9OWhqFNv
A6 I;ve been there. Santa Claus came and began passing out candy. I just knew I'd be shown the door after that one.
A6: My A's assume the best - that I have some idea what I'm doing. If something comes up, they'll ask me. I KNOW - IT'S A DREAM GIG.
SO DID I!! Kids were making noise and moving. Sheesh!
A6: Changing the behavior should always be the goal. You will need to personalize consequences for students.
A6. Building relationships, CR procedures, a genuine smile/greeting help build grace an positive culture.
I get right in the chaos with them...it's more fun than just observing! I also balance the chaos w/ structured stuff
A6 I want my A to know I've tried multiple redirections; S rejected them all & I just need them to see that I'm trying to help.
For real! My classroom is fun and crazy. I hate quiet!
I have found I have to work so much harder in a quiet room.Ss need to do work which means there has to be noise!
A6: As a 1st Yr T I will struggle with some CR management issues, please help me and know I'm trying my hardest!
Actually, that's pretty much how it is at my school. But would like more input... (Picky, huh?)
I might DM you later with other thoughts
Good ideas! Thank you. https://t.co/Jp8quZKFjv
I get right in the chaos with them...it's more fun than just observing! I also balance the chaos w/ structured stuff
A6: I struggled with CR! And everyone I talked to said they did too.
A6 I want admin to know that there were things that happened b4 you came into my room. consider that.
me too - I always get worried when there is no noise…
A6 I want T's to know I understand what it's like to be trying & failing. Let's work together to make it what you want.
oh no!! 😡 learning is messy, noisy, and active!
I think that Ts & Admin should switch roles for a week. Each would respect the others efforts much more after walking in their shoes
A7 I started keeping their written goals, showing them what they wrote & asking how their behavior today is helping them reach goal.
A7 - very first step should be to make sure I have made the expectations clear
CM is NOT about punishment; it's about maximizing learning
this can be hard until you find “you” as a teacher. The younger you are the less “you” has been developed.
A6: when I ask what I can do or what you need from me- I mean it!
Admin doesn't always walk into my room at the beginning of a lesson. Consider that. Things are messy when you walk in midway.
A6 Sometimes a break from a difficult situation can make all the difference even if it is 5 min. Share the load. Don't give up.
Or have a P as a dad...I knew what his job was like. Always saw both sides.
I wouldn't mind my principal sharing parts of my observation w/my class. Students might respond well to this. https://t.co/lZDWiVVmWn
A6: When I visit your room, I don't want to see kids sitting silently all the time. Like seeing a puppy in a carrier- makes me sad!
A6: A says can I see something besides a lab/activity? Umm...it's a science class w LABS;
pls don't ask me to lecture
A6: On the other hand, I've had classes that'd be better off if each kid were locked in own pet carrier... https://t.co/OaIUo4JAcU
A6: When I visit your room, I don't want to see kids sitting silently all the time. Like seeing a puppy in a carrier- makes me sad!
A7: I explain the expectations again and when they say "I know," I ask why they aren't following them. https://t.co/RNCFIuRyO6
Dr. Forster, it's not a hustle if you're just trying to survive. The blob's the good guy in this movie. https://t.co/bQ2omz2dX4
A7: If you're sitting behind your desk and kids are acting up, get up.
A6- Crm is a balancing act that some days I rock at and others I survive.
A7: Fewer shut up sheets, er worksheets.
A6. If I send S to A then I am exhausted/have exhausted all options &it is mainly for the sake of other Ss https://t.co/BWbihQR0rQ
Q6: Ts-what do you wish your admin knew about your CR Management? Admin-what do you wish Ts knew? https://t.co/fI9OWhqFNv
A7: Stay calm, listen more than talk, make statements like "help me understand why..." "what do you need from me" Be sincere.
You WERE/ARE that kid we're all talking about tonight!
A7: Remind them that if they can't handle themselves in class then I mess out on the fun. If they still make a poor choice Good bye.
A7 - once a S is aware, have a conversation to change behavior, next contact parent for help PRIOR to giving discipline.
I was that Saturday who struggled to focus in a noisy room, esp. during drafting. I want all S to succeed.
A7. Private conv, possibly a phone call, brainstorm solutions.
A6) That certain Ss don't care about rules and when the As won't uphold them, how can Ts be successful at upholding them.
A7 Talk it out, Logical consequences, communication w/parent, makes communication easy
A7 Everyone has these days when we have to regroup and reteach the lesson. We don't control all variables in S's lives.
A7 making sure that the misbehaving S see's the class move on w/out them. When the attention isn't squarely on them...
A7: stand near them with hand on their shoulder and keep teaching. And reading the chat for other options!
A7 you have to start with 1 on 1 discussion and try to get to the root of the behavior plus explain the value of that expectation
A7--am a big fan of calling parents while I still love their kid and build a partnership. Brag calls can work wonders.
A7: Action step #1: Take Action. DO something. Whining about it to a coworker or spouse is not action. Act. Then vent.
At least I am very honest with my answers. Maybe too honest. I've always been told I am honest to a fault.
Thankful that this has never been said to me! They always want to see the cool stuff!
A7 - implement discipline policy, don’t skip steps, contact parents EARLY
A7) This one time, I maybe flung a podium across the room. It was done in jest-and I did get their attention https://t.co/yojXx2Px4S
A7: Love and Logic really helped me give the responsibility of their choices back to them.
A7: best consequence is "do it again - right" It always ends with success
I love finding a S doing amazing work & having them call their Ps to report their success while I'm right there.
I don't need to do that to be 100% possible that is NOT the gig for me. Thankful for those who do it. https://t.co/yOdBmh0rkk
I think that Ts & Admin should switch roles for a week. Each would respect the others efforts much more after walking in their shoes
Brag calls make the negative call way more effective. Brag first! https://t.co/oRankzCSEN
A7--am a big fan of calling parents while I still love their kid and build a partnership. Brag calls can work wonders.
A6: Go back and review procedures, role-play until all students can follow them!
as if I am not "teaching" during a lab
A6b) Also, come grab a sousaphone and do marching fundamentals with us. You'll have a new respect for me and the Ss.
A7: Elective perks. They chose to be there, if they don't meet the expectations, then they don't need to be there.
Q7- Praise those that are following expectations, remind it needed, have them practice following expectations.
ONE grand gesture a year can be effective. Once slammed a clipboard so hard the spring sprung. ONCE.
The kids didn’t know how to react. Then someone started laughing. Then we all did.
I've had a few minor... not-exactly 'injuries' when I'm using, um... 'humor' in class.
A8 Earlier, POSITIVE parent contact
Yes! And can make positive communication so easy! https://t.co/NdKr4Y6i7U
A7--am a big fan of calling parents while I still love their kid and build a partnership. Brag calls can work wonders.
I would try and do something off the wall to get them back. The podium one was hilarious.
It broke the tension and allowed you all to laugh.
A7 Repeat expectations, praise correct behaviors, talk privately and respectfully when need to address individual situations.
I have had admin come and do the lab. Makes for a great SS/Admin experience, and they get to see what I can do!
A8: Natural Consequences, and the GE 8 principles
Make sure the monkey stays on the correct back. No need to get all out of sorts. Adds to the neg attention https://t.co/1k4Q1aYvif
A7: Love and Logic really helped me give the responsibility of their choices back to them.
A8: behavior log and the beach (see A2)
A8 at TIME is the emphasis for the year. We must be efficient and effective with every minute we have from all staff.
A. 7-I warn them as I'm going on with class. If it keeps up, I'll take them out in the hall to have a heart-to-heart talk
A7) Talk with Ss and explain why the expectations are in place and try to understand their situation. If home life sucks, it's hard.
A8 -- since I don't have a classroom, I will practice my teacher stare when working with Leggies. Laser-focused eyes.
A7: anonymous corrections > then calling kids out when possible. "Back row I need to you start writing"...
A8: Have the student reflect on their behavior and own it
A8 - I am working to increase communication with parents (as counselor/athletic director) using email/texts.
A8: I'm actually going back to more structure and less freedom to start - to HELP Ss, not punish them.
A8: I'm doing a flipped classroom, but only for stuff I truly expect Ss to look at more than once - or for Ps to have the same info
❤️ Class Dojo for parent communication! And parents loved it too!
This is a good plan! I try to do this.
A8 start small. Don't go to the biggest consequence right off. give them a chance to learn from it. stop controlling them!!!!
I do think admin outside of the school buildings (ed service center) should do some subbing. good reminder https://t.co/k32KgGR9oA
I think that Ts & Admin should switch roles for a week. Each would respect the others efforts much more after walking in their shoes
A8: As Ss arrive less prepared to take ownership, play school, etc., if I don't offer more structure, they'll self-destruct.
Problem is, it isn't common knowledge to everyone.
A8: I'm going stop eating donuts in front of my students. Because that is just mean.
CM was always a challenge for me but a friend gave me a copy of The First Days of School-Wong and it was very helpful
A8: I think we all need to remember that kids are learning behavior just like they are learning content. Give it same priority.
YES! I have a behavior reflection unit that I've used with my younger Ss. Loved the resulting epiphanies. https://t.co/H3BvfGSuTz
A8: Have the student reflect on their behavior and own it
https://t.co/0hEvsqpoTj
A7: talk with them after class also a good prevention when I ask quietly "do you need to stay after class?"
No!!! Don't give up the donuts!!! https://t.co/E9eEft2b0q
A8: I'm going stop eating donuts in front of my students. Because that is just mean.
A7 Laughter and humor can do wonders for classroom management.
No. They need to know if you go to college and get a degree you get to eat in front of kids and sit in a rolly chair
A8 Setup procedures early, maintain consistency, let my Ss know I care about them.
YES. I had Sup., Asst Sup., and another A in my class a few years ago and it was GREAT for all of us!
And we need to choose our battles...Ask "is this the one to go to the wall for?"
- so much here that can benefit students AND parents!
https://t.co/z8ynjfvk7N
A8: I'm doing a flipped classroom, but only for stuff I truly expect Ss to look at more than once - or for Ps to have the same info
Okay I will keep doing it!!!
I hate when I can tell a T is trying to show off for their peers when a S acts up in the hallway. You don't impress me w/harsh disc.
A8- No clue. I will have to see what my students need before I decide what needs to be changed.
A8 Share positive videos, discuss behavior, attitude...
Everytime an S misbehaves is an opportunity to learn how to do something better! What were you trying to do? https://t.co/6JXr4Bvdtk
A8: I think we all need to remember that kids are learning behavior just like they are learning content. Give it same priority.
Exactly, I dont expect my own children to know exact expectations without my training. SS are the same
A9. I have a rough script in front of me. That way if I feel frazzled, I have key phrases I want to say. https://t.co/TQNSTiasYz
You impress me when you handle them with compassion and understanding. and not humiliating them. says the T that said Shut up! :(
A7: So can tasers - although for some reason people get REAL weird when I use this approach... https://t.co/HRp4PhxIEU
A7 Laughter and humor can do wonders for classroom management.
some of that comes from all of the regulation - they have never had less structure
Yes! Yes! Yes! All discipline should be a teachable moment. (not all discipline = negative consequences) https://t.co/ZcsP8Ebiys
A8: I think we all need to remember that kids are learning behavior just like they are learning content. Give it same priority.
A9: I make sure it's necessary, then call to invite them for a meeting. Most just ask to talk it out. https://t.co/Cmkq64CbkV
A7: talk to them after class also good prevention when I quietly ask "do you need to stay after class"
A9: Not just calling/walking to the car for negative behavior, this builds trust. My mentor T was awesome at this!
A9: I keep in mind Ps just care about their Ss. That is where they come from even if they are overzealous. https://t.co/b9U7mm96tt
A9 You call; invite; speak calmly. If it escalates or turns south, see if they want to talk to someone else. https://t.co/rXmdUoEYxW
Way not good! https://t.co/pOzjufZSKw
I hate when I can tell a T is trying to show off for their peers when a S acts up in the hallway. You don't impress me w/harsh disc.
no it isn’t. They can bring their own. They may even share…
A9 if the P is difficult and I've exhausted my bag of tricks, I will ask a counselor to sit in on a meeting
A9) Strive to keep communication open so they get it. It's sad when Ss suffer because the Ps don't want to do what they need to.
A9: You have to remind yourself that a parent will always take their student's side. Stay respectful & calm https://t.co/teqkpihdjX
A9 I let the parent know I care, I want to understand their frustration & I'm sorry they're unhappy
A9 - know when to stop emailing and pick up the PHONE or meet face to face. So much misinterpretation with email
A9: Asking other teachers and admin for support. Also DOCUMENTING all my efforts on reaching parents! https://t.co/lY1nItdkaB
A9: Meet face-to-face with parents as much as possible, be genuine.
A9: We're on the same team. If we work together, the SS will succeed. If you come @ me crazy...I'll go cray cray.
A9) This is hard - when I worry about how an email may sound I have an Admin double check it.
https://t.co/jqZ3B4ZePV
A9: initiate parent communication. Emails/ websites / social media. Keeping them informed prevents problems
r A8--Have sthing specific & positive 2 share abt their kid. Ask their advice.Listen.Thnk them 4 their kid. They're doing their best
A9 I approach P communication from the perspective that they have a great kid who needs help, not a discipline problem.
Oh My Stars!!!!! I love this!!!! We are on the same team but if you come crazy...haha! https://t.co/sIhFAaOksI
A9: We're on the same team. If we work together, the SS will succeed. If you come @ me crazy...I'll go cray cray.
. Students are all different-taught & encouraged differently. Can't forget they are our responsibility to learn and grow!
Exactly! Every little is worht that!!
A9: Sometimes parents just want to be heard, so listenable validate. Don't take it personally.
A9: I like to open with "Ms. Tree? I need to talk to you about Apple. Turns out he's not fallen far away..."
A9- If a difficult topic I use the sandwich method and try to offer ways to make the situation better.
I love to communicate via phone, when I have the time. Always ends better than email.
This is literally the only way to make it through some of the roughest days. https://t.co/MjgKcafg0s
A7 Laughter and humor can do wonders for classroom management.
A9: By having a positive relationship in place
A9: Sometimes parents just want to be heard, so listen and validate. Don't take it personally.
A9: Any time I have had an issue with a P we met face to face it was resolved. No text, email, call.. face to face is best.
A9 I try to build a relationship with the Ps. I keep them calm and focus on what we can do together to ensure their child's success.
A9: Make them feel empowered in the conversation. Be a team, not us vs them. tell them you understand them.
A2. I tell Ss that if they want to argue, I gladly will-- at 3:07 (after school). They rarely come. https://t.co/3CVBdcPn09
A9: Don't ever ever ever send your first draft of your e-mail response to the parent. It's not pretty. Or nice. Be nice. Then send.
A9: data! also helps to have a colleague sit in on phone calls or proof emails
A9- realize that parents have insights that you might not; be willing to listen
there have been a couple of Ps where that the phone wasn’t going to work. I love P/T conferences for this dialogue
If you meet face to face there is no misconstrued words or tones. Usually my meetings end in hugs.
The second we take it personal w/kids or parents we have already lost! https://t.co/UmW5fp44O2
A9: Sometimes parents just want to be heard, so listen and validate. Don't take it personally.
A9: I would tell ps that since they were supportive I would not give the dhall this time.Then they knew i didnt want to,on my side
I started reading this with such seriousness...then I embarrassingly laughed WAY too loud
A10 -- I've asked Ts to really look at their Ss & find s-thing positive about each one. Turn convo around.
NONE of my meetings end in hugs. https://t.co/20bRpkE9k2
If you meet face to face there is no misconstrued words or tones. Usually my meetings end in hugs.
A9) I have made the S make the call and explain why they are receiving the call, then I'd talk to the P https://t.co/P499ri7YNd
A10 observe my class and others with different styles...or let me come teach his/her class
Yup. I'm big on not wasting class time.
A9: Tell parents you want it to be about their child and not either of you; make it about kids.
A10: Observation is so good!
A9 we have to be in it for their kid & they need to believe we are. Everything is easier when that respect is established 1st
Yep if it's truly about kids then it shouldn't be about our pride.
A9: If it's going to be a difficult message, I rarely use email. Too easy to misinterpret. I prefer F2F or phonecall.
A10 I will point future Ts to this chat. :D
A10 Share methods, brain storm ideas...but respect that all Ts are different. What works for you may not work for them.
A10: Offering strategies, helpful help/advice
A10 - If you both have the same S. Both T’s collaborate with S to find a solution
A10 It takes a little tough love at times. If they are earnestly asking dont push it under the rug for them https://t.co/C4XxKDXp8y
A10: It will be okay. CR Mgmt is hard. It will get better. Don’t give up. Keep trying. Here r some ideas… https://t.co/9dFo31uv0N
A10: One HUGE help is to simply tell struggling TT's that everyone screws up. Don't ever think "the pro's" haven't botched it up.
A10 also observe the T to see if you can pinpoint an easy fix
I agree 100%!! I wish we could keep OU focus on what is best for our Ss.
A10 Ask what they are doing first, then offer suggestions from there. Share what I do, and suggest they talk with other Ts as well.
A10. Tell them to lighten up and play better defense. Be more preventative with planning. Have a class mtg. https://t.co/3qEsWitn47
A10 go observe other Ts STEAL what will work for you; find your CR style/voice
Q10- I try to model good methods and offer honest feedback of how I would handle it.
my admin told me one day... i think you just talk to your Ss like they're your own kids. Yeah, that may be an issue. I love them!
Love this! So many times is all about perspective!!! https://t.co/Ghg1XkFr1K
A10 -- I've asked Ts to really look at their Ss & find s-thing positive about each one. Turn convo around.
A-10 Each teacher in this state needs to be having these conversations before school begins in August. This is prep work.
A10 be honest and up front and nice. Don't sit back & watch people fail! Stakes are way too high!!!!!!
A10 -- If we can't find some joy in our day with kids, we need to think about a new profession. CM shouldn't take all R energy
A10- encourage colleague to record a lesson and watch it privately with a focus on the students' behaviors
A10: work with an instructional coach 😊 watching yourself on video can help as well
A10) Listen and be compassionate/selective w feedback. Some years harder than others.
Bonus Questions: Do you have any special strategies to help subs with classroom management? https://t.co/FrwBk1MXSu
The point of some of those more difficult questions! https://t.co/Zoalq40y3E
A10: One HUGE help is to simply tell struggling TT's that everyone screws up. Don't ever think "the pro's" haven't botched it up.
I had a T tell me I was ineffective because my kids were too loud. Too bad our kids scored the same and well
A10 relationship is key as with everything in education.
A10 - Tell stories about your own past failures, sometimes New T’s think we have all had it together forever. NOT true.
Bonus q: binder of procedures, seating, phonetic pronunciation of names, lesson and backup plans, name of go to teacher
A10: Don't go tattle to the principal about how out of control their room is. Bring them a Sonic drink and offer your ear.
Sorry i missed chat... I was reading . You should read it too... Its good
Big difference in loud and productive and loud and out of control. https://t.co/NfTRtgSjoR
I had a T tell me I was ineffective because my kids were too loud. Too bad our kids scored the same and well
Bonus A: seating charts w/ student pictures!
Bonus: My goal was for Ss to know the routines/expectations so well they could operate wo me. Easy sub day. https://t.co/ag9vcDkxqa
Bonus Questions: Do you have any special strategies to help subs with classroom management? https://t.co/FrwBk1MXSu
BQ-Name of a trusted colleague/student. Also leave any procedures, rules, or schedules handy. Leaving chocolate is great too!
Bonus q: I also make sure kids know what sub will have, explain expectations, give lesson instructions ahead
A10: First & foremost, make sure they know this is THE hardest thing to learn first year - not just them! https://t.co/XIZJek0bJC
Not to mention active learning is meaningful learning?
If my sub would do what I have written out for them to do - there would not be any major issues
https://t.co/PFGcnuGZhR
Bonus Questions: Do you have any special strategies to help subs with classroom management? https://t.co/FrwBk1MXSu
A10 You can't explain good CM, so let them observe you in action.I've never had an issue w/ CM. It comes easy. I'm strict with love.
EVERYTHING that happens in a school is fueled by relationships. Climate is everything. https://t.co/9ld5UClNG6
A10 relationship is key as with everything in education.
Leave bell to bell work for sub and keep students accountable for the work, SEATING CHARTS with pics, https://t.co/Qu93Rg4FUN
A10: Ask them to record a lesson, then review it with them. Be gracious &non-judgmental. Focus on 1 or 2 things at a time. Follow up
A10 - observe the T, work together to pick just ONE thing to improve CR management. Once there is marked improvement, on to item 2.
Leave the sub meaningful assignments! SS know when you leave busy work!
My kids know if sub is happy, things go well for them. They KNOW how to behave - don't always have to for me, but MUST for sub
I try to leave my subs very detailed lesson plans. Downtime=chaos in kindergarten!
When we have a gr8 climate where everyone is having fun is always more productive for everyone! https://t.co/v2HpZs6ZzF
EVERYTHING that happens in a school is fueled by relationships. Climate is everything. https://t.co/9ld5UClNG6
A10 relationship is key as with everything in education.
True PLC's would be Ts watching each other in action. This needs to happen!! Sooner than later. That is true collaboration.
Subs probably know better how Ts run their classes than As do - you know immediately from being w/ their kids for an hour.
If they ask for help, I coach them into finding the answers that are within themselves!
Bonus: leave a sub folder with strategies enclosed
BonusA-I copied a class grading scale for subs to complete. For a grade! I wouldn't lower kids grades, but they didn't know.
BA Do what the lesson plans@#$%^&> say!
Bonus A: Seating Charts, activities students know (PE), binder of procedures, list of ways to gain control, and back up plans
Bonus A: Bribe kids with donuts!!!
I also try to find a good sub and request them every time needed. That way kids get a familiar face.
Yes that is frustrating! We need quality subs! We need to do what we can to keep them if they are good. https://t.co/QvVfjjDpQ8
If my sub would do what I have written out for them to do - there would not be any major issues
https://t.co/PFGcnuGZhR
Bonus Questions: Do you have any special strategies to help subs with classroom management? https://t.co/FrwBk1MXSu
Sub Tubs! With seating charts with pics, and students knowing that if they put one little toe out of line, life will not be fun.
I leave a positive note on the board for my Ss when I have a sub. Tell me what you did to create a good day. Accountability!
Damn - I was really hoping and would crash and burn so I'd look better next week... now I'll have to up my game!
