#ELLCHAT Archive
#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.
Monday October 30, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Good evening! Q1 Please type A1 with your name and what and where you teach and don’t forget to include
#ELLCHAT
MrsMurat
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
My Ss broke the internet with positivity!
https://t.co/mAJMMUrG9V
#colchat
#eduality
#ellchat
#iedchat
#kinderchat
#ksedchat
#luthed
participatechat
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#ELLCHAT
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/TtihYHTCPA
TeachingChannel
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
"Use sentence frames to give students practice with academic language."
https://t.co/O8Z6mCtxLk
via
@cultofpedagogy
#ELLchat
#edchat
kmsusca
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Kristina from NJ. STEM Supervisor and looking forward to learning how I can support my T's.
#ellchat
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
A1 Kate from
@ps
here. I teach ESOL to adults.
CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A1. Charity Irizarry from West Palm Beach - ESOL Teacher ✌🏻️
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A1 I’m Karen Nemeth. With
@judiehaynes
I co-host
#ELLCHAT
This week it’s just me. I’m author, consultant on
#earlyed
for ELLs/DLLs in PA
MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I'm Molly, a preservice elementary/middle level t studying at Grove City College in PA
#ELLCHAT
flash_feedback
Oct 30 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi, I'm Christine, MS STEM and innovation teacher, and co-founder of formative peer feedback tool
https://t.co/1LEUOoJjSC
#ellchat
CSchlessinger
Oct 30 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A1 NJ primary school ESL teacher
#ELLCHAT
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:03 PM EDT
👋🏻 so glad you’re joining us!
#ELLChat
In reply to @kmsusca
MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A1: I'm Molly, preservice elementary/middle level t studying at Grove City College in PA
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Remember to include answer number (A1) to match the question you’re answering (Q1) so everyone can follow theads!
#ELLCHAT
EduGladiators
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
🔑 SATURDAY
#EduGladiators
is back w/NEW series 'Keys to Success' & Core Warrior
@BrendanFetters
#TeacherEdChat
#ELLChat
#COLchat
#TechTalkGA
Manzar360
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
#profdev
"Use sentence frames to give students practice with academic language."
https://t.co/bmor6ZxUWN
via cultofpedagogy
#ELLchat
#edc
…
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1. Hi everyone! I’m LeighAnn, I teach PreK to 2nd grade ELLs in NJ.
#ELLChat
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1 Chris Tennyson Middle School ELD in Middle TN
#ellchat
fhsDuarte
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1 Missy Duarte here. I'm a former Spanish teacher, currently teaching high school ESL in Fairhaven, MA
#ellchat
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1. Deysy getting my master's in Special Education @ elizabethtown college
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome everyone, new friends and familiar friends! Tonight we’ll be talking about helping ELLs/DLLs work and interact w/ peers on
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:06 PM EDT
In my field of
#earlyed
, we use the term DLL (dual language learner) where others use EL or ELL
#ELLCHAT
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Small world - I went there for my undergraduate education!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @Mizz_Salgado
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:07 PM EDT
In
#earlyed
, we see that children under age 5 are still in process of learning ANY language, so they need support of both languages
#ELLCHAT
VioletaRGamez
Oct 30 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi
@KarenNemethEdM
n
#ellchat
peeps. Violeta, EL teacher in IL
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome everyone, new friends and familiar friends! Tonight we’ll be talking about helping ELLs/DLLs work and interact w/ peers on
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:08 PM EDT
In
#earlyed
we see children under age 5 are still in process of learning ANY language, so they need support of both languages - DLL
#ELLCHAT
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:09 PM EDT
It definitely is!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @theESLlady
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ELLChat
!
In reply to @Mizz_Salgado
liferinged
Oct 30 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Watch this: Cynthia Erivo: "Natural Woman" and "Johnny and Donna" | TED Talk
#ellchat
#ncte
https://t.co/ruZwSMSyAK
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q2 In your experience, what factors keep ELLs/DLLs from participating in class discussions
#ELLCHAT
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Is there any difference to why the term DLL would be used instead of ELL?
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
kmsusca
Oct 30 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: Possibly not feeling included. Discussions moving too fast for them to follow. Looking forward to hearing other responses.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q2 In your experience, what factors keep ELLs/DLLs from participating in class discussions?
#ELLCHAT
flash_feedback
Oct 30 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2 one is a timing delay - those few min. of think time put them a beat behind.
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Sorry I'm late! Just getting home from parent conferences. K12 ESL instructional coach from Central Iowa
#ELLchat
CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q2 Lack of social &/or academic vocab, causing low self confidence, not able to keep up with fast tones/speedy Ts 😢
#ELLCHAT
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:11 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
A2 Ss may be afraid to give the wrong answer, to appear foolish, or to offend. They prefer to watch others first.
#ESOL
#ELL
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 It’s so easy to say ‘language barrier’ but there are many factors that affect class discussions, right?
#ELLCHAT
fhsDuarte
Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 low confidence/fear
#ellchat
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 Ss fear not being able to make the “right” sentence or being laughed at by native peers
#ELLchat
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2. I think sometimes DLLs/ELLs are afraid to make mistakes so they don’t attempt to speak out until they’re more confident.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 I agree - I think these are TWO factors - low confidence is often true, but real fear can happen with immigrant students, too.
#ELLCHAT
fhsDuarte
Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 low confidence/fear
#ellchat
CSchlessinger
Oct 30 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 speed of discussion, being in silent period, need for longer wait time, lack of vocab
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: Inadequate time and/or tools to prepare response keeps
#ELLs
from participating in class discussions.
#ELLChat
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yes! Ts pace/class pace can deter participation
#ellchat
In reply to @CwellsESL
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
We have a sheltered
#ESOL
classroom, but even there students are concerned that others have better English skills and might judge.
In reply to @CBTennyson
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I agree - especially thinking about the pace and sometimes lack of wait time on the teacher’s end. So hard to judge that sometimes.
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @kmsusca
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2.Understanding the class discussion, fear of not being understood, cultural differences( ex. school is for learning not talking).
#ellchat
educ8orSmith
Oct 30 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Wait time is a huge factor. ELLs/DLLs need time to process.
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @kmsusca
MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1) Carol Salva. I teach in Houston, Tx. Sorry I’m late!
#ellchat
AssignmentHelpN
Oct 30 @ 9:15 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#ellchat
#iechat
#kinderchat
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Yes, a strong model can be enlightening for clarifying expectations for class discussion.
#ELLChat
In reply to @PSCCESOL
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2. I also think that students may want to participate, but lack the social and academic vocabulary in order to do so.
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:15 PM EDT
#ellchat
coming in a bit late!
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
True. My students and I talk about how there are so many ways to get it wrong, and so few ways to get it right.
In reply to @CBTennyson
kmsusca
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
I can imagine it being hard for general education teachers to manage this, especially during the mini-lessons.
#ELLChat
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I agree - especially thinking about the pace and sometimes lack of wait time on the teacher’s end. So hard to judge that sometimes.
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @kmsusca
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
This is difgicult when GL peers go so fast!
#ELLChat
In reply to @educ8orSmith, @kmsusca
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 I agree with several of your comments about wait time, patience. But that is something we CAN teach to Ss - even in
#preK
#ELLCHAT
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Good point - our school routines & expectations may be different than what they are used to.
#ellchat
In reply to @Mizz_Salgado
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Especially when students are older. They don't want to be made fun of for not understanding something as fast
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @educ8orSmith, @kmsusca
MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: The fear of messing up when speaking. Making the classroom a welcoming & comfortable environment for all can alleviate this
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Many times Ss are still processing and gearing up a thought, but the convo moves too quickly and moves on.
#ELLCHAT
educ8orSmith
Oct 30 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Important to establish culturally responsive classroom so ELLs/DLLs are comfortable taking risks & can navigate US school culture
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @Mizz_Salgado
MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) Class culture is a huge factor. Our
#ELLs
aren’t the only Ss who refrain from participating if the class climate is off.
#ellchat
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2. If teachers don’t model discussion expectations, students may also be confused & not understand how to participate.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 A study that found success teaching young children to interact successfully w/ peers speaking different languages
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 1 strategy I’ve seen is when T lets a S know they’re going to call on 2 Ss before them so they can listen to a model + prepare.
#ellchat
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:20 PM EDT
What a helpful and specific idea!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @MrC_A2
eslpassport
Oct 30 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Travel Quotes from ESL Passport⠀
#edchat
#tefl
#esl
#eslchat
#ell
#ellchat
#elt
#education
…
https://t.co/FCLttq7pVI
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 Study found these strategies preschoolers can learn: wait for response, demonstrate what you’re saying, repeat for your friend
#ELLCHAT
MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Ready signals help a lot w this. Something like
#QSSSA
works like a charm.
#ellchat
In reply to @kmsusca
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q3 How do you specifically encourage ELLs/DLLs to participate in class discussions?
#ELLCHAT
Large groups and/or small groups
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 Another strategy is to keep a parking lot for questions so Ss can ask Qs of their peers in writing that are revoiced by the T.
#ellchat
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
This is great - I’m going to try this with my DLLs in PreK.
#ELLchat
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Dang. That is sad & might be true for so many. 😕
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @CwellsESL
eslpassport
Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Travel Quotes from ESL Passport⠀
#edchat
#tefl
#esl
#eslchat
#ell
#ellchat
#elt
#education
#teachers
#englishlangu
…
https://t.co/jx0YuzIzqX
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:23 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
A3 I have little golden tickets I hand out every time a student engages positively. These can be traded for extra credit or hw pass
MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3: Establish an environment of respect with the other students so all feel welcome. Remind students there are no bad questions
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 OK, parking lot can work, but what if ELL is not confident in writing yet?
#ELLCHAT
Pictures? Icons?
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 Another strategy is to keep a parking lot for questions so Ss can ask Qs of their peers in writing that are revoiced by the T.
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Yes! Technology can play a similar role. Use
@padlet
or something like it as the parking lot.
#ELLChat
In reply to @MrC_A2, @padlet
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:23 PM EDT
But kind of awesome that you can now share it to empower your students.
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @MsSalvac, @CwellsESL
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
YES! Or even sentence stems?
#getmultimodal
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Having All Ss jot down answers helps with expecting all Ss to participate/think through answer.
#ELLChat
In reply to @MsSalvac, @kmsusca
kmsusca
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: In math I would have T's pose a Q with no right or wrong answer and have students draw their strategy to support their answer.
#ELLChat
CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3. I work small groups. Try 2 have sentence stems ready 4 those that aren't sure how 2 begin & let them turn & talk 1st w/ friend
#ELLCHAT
ESOL_Tchr
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#ellchat
Hi! Very late! Just out of grad class...Christine, ESOL itinerant support...
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3. In K we start every day w/ a meeting where all Ss share - whether it’s simply repeating, sharing one word, or one sentence.
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 When pushing in during classroom discussions I try to know topics & Qs to front load Ss w/ prompts or sentence stems.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 I wrote these cross language communication strategies into a picture book!
https://t.co/zxEAZ1OcFo
#ELLCHAT
MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3) Teach ALL Ss what 2 say instead of “I don’t know.” Takes pressure off & teaches skills needed 2 advocate 4 what they need.
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Collaborating with Ts to mimic language/question sequencing during pull-out so that when Ss return they’ve had practice w/ lang!
#ellchat
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Drawing is a great way to support the lower language proficiency levels in writing!
#ellchat
In reply to @kmsusca
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:26 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
A3 If a topic is tough, we will make several people in the classroom responsible for different aspects of it. Gives all prep time.
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3.By making sure that they can relate to the discussion or shorten the question into smaller parts if it is too long of a question
#ellchat
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 giving ELs a chance to prepare for grade level discussions & rewarding/encouraging them when they do.
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Don’t forget to tweet with your A number to match the Q you are answering so others can follow now and later on
#ELLCHAT
ESOL_Tchr
Oct 30 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Excellent idea...will pass on to cooperating teachers! Simple and easy way to increase wait time...can be implemented immediately!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @MrC_A2
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Give chance to think about answer 1st, discuss with partner to practice sharing, & then share out. Also choice of topic is key
#ELLchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 This study found that even in preK, teacher using the children’s home language in class reduced barriers
https://t.co/l4PeHRA47n
#ELLCHAT
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 Give Ss prior know about the discussion & thus alowing them to prepare.
#ELLChat
CSchlessinger
Oct 30 @ 9:28 PM EDT
So excited that all of our teachers will now have a copy of this book thanks to our ed foundation!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 I wrote these cross language communication strategies into a picture book!
https://t.co/zxEAZ1OcFo
#ELLCHAT
ChoiceOfTimshel
Oct 30 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Its important to give ELLs extra time in thinking through questions and answers
#ellchat
In reply to @HSeslteacher
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Q4 What strategies do you use to involve ELLs/DLLs in cooperative groups?
#ELLCHAT
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
A4 Assigning specific roles in groups helps students know what to do. Then they can switch roles next time.
kmsusca
Oct 30 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4: I saw a MS teacher pair a student up with a peer that spoke the same native language. Is this a good idea?
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:30 PM EDT
If you don’t add A3 when you answer Q3, someone later will just see your tweet “Good idea!” and won’t know what the good idea was!
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 Knowing where students are at with their literacy abilities can help frame how students contribute to cooperative group work.
#ellchat
rbmiskell
Oct 30 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Hi
#ellchat
. Becky Miskell from DC. Creating a culture in which students support one another goes a long way and increases engagement.
CSchlessinger
Oct 30 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 we use popsicle sticks to take turns so students know when it is their turn- they have plenty of wait time
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4
@Judiehaynes
says from her years experience in elementary that intentional pairing of Ss is key to cooperative learning
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @kmsusca, @judiehaynes
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3. Ask the question, give a couple seconds to process, if needed provide guidance if the student seems stuck
#ellchat
CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q4 First...I do try 2 manipulate the pairings so my shy ELL is matched with someone who won't be 2 much 4 them. Start slow....🐢
#ELLCHAT
ESOL_Tchr
Oct 30 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Routines have to be taught and modeled...another point to pass on to cooperating teachers in a co teaching model...
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @theESLlady
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 Info on peer learning for ELLs from
@colorincolorado
https://t.co/LYOZ49Zu3n
#ELLCHAT
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
Could it be a positive strategy sometimes, if the moment calls for it? Sometimes different lang. pairings work, but same-lang. too.
In reply to @kmsusca, @KarenNemethEdM
MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: Pairing Ss up w/ those that are bilingual/were in the same situation before helps ELLs feel more welcome w/out being alienated
#ELLCHAT
flash_feedback
Oct 30 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4 visual word bank on table, sentence starters, popping in to echo with emphasis
#ellchat
CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Whoops I meant A4, not Q4. Sorry- MONDAY. 😒
#ELLCHAT
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 Sentence frames helps Ss form thoughts when not sure of words for a discussion
#ELLChat
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: IMHO it depends on the students. Some need support of native language while others ready for challenge of English.
#ELLChat
In reply to @kmsusca
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Pairing has pros and cons. The line between support and dependence can be tough to define + the other S is there to learn as well…
#ellchat
kmsusca
Oct 30 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Booked marked that article! Thank you!!
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 Info on peer learning for ELLs from
@colorincolorado
https://t.co/LYOZ49Zu3n
#ELLCHAT
ChoiceOfTimshel
Oct 30 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4 pairing up ELLs with bilingual students also encourages class engagement
#ellchat
In reply to @MollyFConlon
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I’ve always had success with this! Although I always use caution -don’t want ELL to use native language friend’s voice as crutch
#ellchat
In reply to @kmsusca
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4. Pairing ELL students with a bilingual student who speaks the same language in order for them to feel comfortable
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: Explicit instruction on how to work in cooperative groups: turn toward partner & make eye contact, take turns talking, etc.
#ELLChat
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:34 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
Perhaps we could say that this is a strategy to apply sparingly and thoughtfully, not as a default?
In reply to @MrC_A2
JennyVo15
Oct 30 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A1: Jenny Vo, ESL ISST, Katy ISD.
#ELLchat
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4 knowing your Ss and who to pair them with, Again, preparing Ss before the discussion so they can be ready
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Funny thing is that pairing newcomers with bilingual children in PreK often doesn’t work - they are too young to interpret
#ELLCHAT
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
For older students, learn one, do one, teach one can be a fantastic model that helps them feel confident.
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 and here’s one from
@colorincolorado
on cooperative learning strategies
https://t.co/ysgWCJC7yM
#ELLCHAT
ESOL_Tchr
Oct 30 @ 9:36 PM EDT
122 words per minute: optimal speed of speech for EL's😊
#ELLCHAT
. Super point!
In reply to @CSchlessinger
JennyVo15
Oct 30 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A2: Lack of Language, no self-confidence, not understanding the content/question.
#ELLchat
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I use it. But I make sure to be very intentional in when and how this is done. I’ve seen Ss get frustrated and fatigued at times.
#ellchat
In reply to @PSCCESOL
MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3) & illustrating is higher on Blooms. 🙌 We should want this for all Ss. “ yesterday’s accommodation is Tomorrow’s best practice.”
#ellchat
In reply to @theESLlady, @kmsusca
theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4. For my 2nd graders I always model & use visuals to illustrate what peer conversation looks like, sounds like
#ellchat
Mizz_Salgado
Oct 30 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I can agree with this, but I do know from personal experience that you can have some students that are able to interpret in Kinder.
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In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 This article on response protocols for ELLs
https://t.co/DPHthA2j4U
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CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:39 PM EDT
No all older Ss know how to either or are willing.
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In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:40 PM EDT
a4 Sometimes it’s as simple as rethinking the topic - some ideas are too abstract or culturally irrelevant for ELLs
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JennyVo15
Oct 30 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3: Providing sentence stems; give them time to practice; have group share so Ss can choose which answer to take ownership of.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 Sometimes I hear tchrs say “those ELLs can’t participate in discussions” when really the tchr won’t let go of old ways
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:40 PM EDT
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That is also true. I think it all goes back to classroom culture and ongoing support for all learners.
In reply to @CBTennyson, @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Don’t forget to put a2 or A3 or A4 so a latecomer will know what is true!
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:40 PM EDT
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That is also true. I think it all goes back to classroom culture and ongoing support for all learners.
In reply to @CBTennyson, @KarenNemethEdM
JennyVo15
Oct 30 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: Heads Together to share answers w/ group; Numbered Heads so every Ss has answer to share; Practice saying answer diff ways.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 We really don’t know what ELLs were taught about how to interact or work with peers before. How can you get down to basics?
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 Offer hands-on materials to support discussions to help anchor ELL’s understand and confidence.
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:44 PM EDT
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A4 We create interaction skits, modeling both positive and negative interactions. Then we talk about the details in the skits.
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Speaking of bookmarks, we do have an
#ELLChat
@diigo
group where we archive links shared during the chat open to all
https://t.co/a7b4mBOTxC
In reply to @kmsusca, @diigo
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 How do you decide when to act and when to step back when ELLs are trying to communicate with peers?
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MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4 Modeling can be very helpful when it comes to interactions/discussions. Also providing sentence stems, or even written Qs.
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CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4 Different cultures do interact differently too, have different classroom interaction expectations .
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 We really don’t know what ELLs were taught about how to interact or work with peers before. How can you get down to basics?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4 Learning English at School: How do ELLs and Peers Teach One Another?
https://t.co/hboGqQzmcW
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:46 PM EDT
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A5 Relationships with students are a big part of making good judgment calls. If we know Ss well, we know when they need us or not.
MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Keep an eye on the ELLs’ expression & make sure the struggle is still productive. If it becomes nonproductive struggle, step in
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HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Watch for balance btn productive struggle v frustration level. Give them a few min to negotiate meaning before intervening.
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MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4) Don't lower the bar drastically down 2 basics 4 all assuming blank slate. Allow native lang & realize its not a cognitive issue
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In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5 How do you decide when to act and when to step back when ELLs are trying to communicate with peers?
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CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5. I typically only intervene when I see BOTH Ss become 2 frustrated 2 finish task. Wait & see if 1/2 of the pair is still trying
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MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5) I like that! Nice Shaeley.
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In reply to @HSeslteacher
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 LOVE this! It comes down to accuracy vs fluency. Can the S be understood? Or are the inaccuracies in communication interfering.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q6 Can you give examples of cooperative learning or discussion topics that worked well?
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JennyVo15
Oct 30 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: Should let the Ss try first, intervene when you see they are frustrated. Goes back to having tools in class for Ss to use.
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CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5 Depends on Ss & setting. In sm group, I make higher demands on discussion. In GL classes with peers, I try to be senstive to S
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MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5 Along with everything everyone else has said! Situations like this are when I feel most like I’m supporting, seeing Ss TRY.
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MollyFConlon
Oct 30 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: Discuss different cultures & having class share what they are familiar w/ to engage all students & connect to their culture
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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A6 We love to have students prepare, present, and lead discussions on issues of grammar and writing. Gives them sense of competence
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6a This year I conducted a small group discussion on Questioning The Author that went really well. CONT…
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q6 Can you give examples of cooperative learning or discussion topics that worked well?
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 With prek, building something big like a blanket fort or big block structure often invites collaboration
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Also… making food ;)
MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6b Read a leveled informational text about Shoes Around the World. Lots to discuss + wonder about. Activating background knowledge
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MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6) Social Contract developed by Ss in cooperative groups at BOY. It’s something they all care abt & supports L2 production all yr.
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theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5. It’s about productive struggle. I want to push Ss to try even if it’s tough. I step in when I think they’re out of their ZPD.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4 Did someone say this yet? Choose a topic or task whereby the ELL has most assets and helps others?
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CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6 In MS, we expect Ss to be able to debate theme in a story. Difficult but worthwhile
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
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A6 My students are adults, but we are constantly making, eating, and then reminiscing about food.
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:53 PM EDT
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A6 My students are adults, but we are constantly making, eating, or reminiscing about food.
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6, Yes, All Ss participated well when I tried this
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MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6) Social Contract developed by Ss in cooperative groups at BOY. It’s something they all care abt & supports L2 production all yr.
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MsSalvac
Oct 30 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A3) If I were an ELL, this would be so helpful to me. Agreed, Melanie.
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In reply to @MelanieSecond
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7 What about technology. Are there ways to use it to support ELL participation in projects and discussions?
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MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Playing “Devil’s Advocate” is fun too, by taking an opposing point of view that Ss must argue against w evidence to convince
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MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Playing “Devil’s Advocate” is fun too, taking an opposing point of view that Ss must argue against w evidence to convince you.
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MelanieSecond
Oct 30 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A3 I'm Melanie Johnson from Greenwood, SC. Allowing S to talk with a partner B4 talking with the whole group helps.
#gwd50esol
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MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7 I’ve seen
@Seesaw
used for this, but have yet to incorporate it into my practice.
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CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6. Last year we also did social contracts, like
@MsSalvac
mentioned.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:55 PM EDT
There’s a lot going on tonight’s chat - always good to repeat, thanks!!!
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lauragardner79
Oct 30 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Oh sorry, just saw I repeated what Karen said! Still kind of new to twitter
In reply to @Mizz_Salgado, @KarenNemethEdM
CBTennyson
Oct 30 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7
@Flipgrid
is a great way for Ss to post discussion ?s &As Thanks to
@MsSalvac
I now use it all the time
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7 What about technology. Are there ways to use it to support ELL participation in projects and discussions?
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CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6. Agree! Most all of my topics can be related to food! Haha! And soccer. Soccer ⚽️ makes all of my ELLs super chatty
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michelleshory
Oct 30 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Michelle from KY, sneaking in after bedtime stories. Will scroll back!!
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:57 PM EDT
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A7 We are lucky at
@ps
that we have an online component to all courses through D2L. We are having online chats all the time.
flash_feedback
Oct 30 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A7 I've worked w/ writing T to develop anonymous peer feedback app
https://t.co/1LEUOoJjSC
. Looking for beta testers! ELLs benefit.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A7 Reasons I like tech to support ELL/DLL interaction: not only gives Ss something to work on together but can record their talk!
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7 Do you let ELLs use translation apps during peer interactions?
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CwellsESL
Oct 30 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7 Used SeeSaw a lot with my co-teacher last year. ELLs could silently get their stories out electronically.
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MrC_A2
Oct 30 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7
@GetKahoot
is used by
@HiroTotsuka
for Ss to participate in group assessment + generates a lot of talk as each Q is discussed.
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theESLlady
Oct 30 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A7. I have in past years & it was extremely effective. Google translate is great for things like that.
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PSCCESOL
Oct 30 @ 9:59 PM EDT
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A7 We have an off/on rule. Usually, translation apps are off, but I put the on sign up if we need them for a little while.
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A7 I like story making apps like
@MyStoryApp
or Draw and Tell by
@duckduckmoose
Can import or draw pictures & record voice any lang
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michelleshory
Oct 30 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Amen.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Oct 30 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 Sometimes I hear tchrs say “those ELLs can’t participate in discussions” when really the tchr won’t let go of old ways
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HSeslteacher
Oct 30 @ 9:59 PM EDT
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#IAESL
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