#ELLCHAT Archive
#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.
Monday December 5, 2016
9:00 PM EST
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Dec 5 @ 9:00 PM EST
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#tlap
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to
#ELLCHAT
. Q1) Please share your name, where you're from and what you teach.
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:01 PM EST
A1) HELLO! Mr. Culbertson tuning in from
@A2schools
in Michigan. K-5
#ELL
#ELLChat
In reply to @A2schools
Paridad_US
Dec 5 @ 9:01 PM EST
A1 Paridad Education Consulting - a group of EL/Bilingual education consultants that work around the US
#ellchat
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM EST
A1) Carol Salva,
@Seidlitz_Ed
Consultant & High School Newcomer (
#NELD
) teacher in Houston,Tx.
#ELLChat
In reply to @Seidlitz_Ed
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM EST
A1) Judie Haynes, author, PD provider & former ESL teacher.
#ELLCHAT
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM EST
A1: hello all, I'm Megan, middle school ELL teacher from MN
#ELLCHAT
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
My name is Yakeline Carbarin,current student of Texas A&M- College Station. Wanting to become a teacher for middle school
maggieessig
Dec 5 @ 9:03 PM EST
A1 Maggie - bilingual/EL ed consultant from IL
#ellchat
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:06 PM EST
A1- Shadia, Tech Instruction Coordinator from IL.
#ellchat
MorganNicole13
Dec 5 @ 9:08 PM EST
#ellchat
#EDCI365
My name is Morgan Marcantel and I am studying at Texas A&M, in hopes of becoming a Middle School Language Arts Teacher!
HSeslteacher
Dec 5 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: Shaeley, ESL instructional coach in Central Iowa
#ellchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:08 PM EST
hi Judie, Karen et al Monica Schnee Fulbrighter in Seoul River Edge Schools NJ joining for a few minutes
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hi
@eslmonica
! Welcome to
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @eslmonica
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:08 PM EST
hi Judie, Karen et al Monica Schnee Fulbrighter in Seoul River Edge Schools NJ joining for a few minutes
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hi
#ellchat
Rita from WI here! Happy to join you off & on this evening!
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:10 PM EST
Love all the future MS teachers!!
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q2) Research shows ELLs have limited opportunities to talk in school? Do you agree with this finding? Why?
#ELLCHAT
MorganNicole13
Dec 5 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: I'm not currently in a school district. I'm a sophomore at A&M with the hope of being an 8th grade LA teacher.
#ellchat
#EDCI365
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:12 PM EST
A3 Not only in US but here in Seoul OLD also overlooked - agree Clsrm tchrs have to include ELs academic conversations
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:12 PM EST
#ellchat
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MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:13 PM EST
Al:Sarah,EL Director, Chicago Ridge,il
#ELLchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:13 PM EST
A3tend nto to engage due to lang barrier cultural norms beliefs scared to make mistakes lack of vocab
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:13 PM EST
Hi! Jumping in from Katy ISD. ELL Specialist
#ellchat
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 9:13 PM EST
Hi I'm Katie and I am a pre-service teacher at UWP!
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2) ELLs are shy to talk in class. Tchrs need to avoid Oral Lang activities that are too shallow. You don’t want one word answers.
#ELLCHAT
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: Yes, my informal research confirms there is little time for ELs to talk
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: lower lvl EL Ss speak less, show less confidence in full class settings. @ MS lvl, sm class settings allow 4 more speaking
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2) Hmm...
#ELs
have every opportunity in the world. We as Ts have the power to empower, or silence our Ss.
#advocate
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2:With shifts in learning in the 21st century ELs are getting more opps to build oral Lang.
#ellchat
MorganNicole13
Dec 5 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2: Yes, I agree with this statement, ELL's talk less in full class setting.
#ellchat
#EDCI365
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2. Sadly, yes. Unless teachers intentionally scaffold speaking opportunities, language learners often go silent
#ellchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:15 PM EST
Hi Monica Schnee Fubrighter in Seoul this term teach at River Edge NJ
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2) Even activities that promote speaking don’t allow for sustentative conversations.
#ELLCHAT
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 It is difficult for ELs to talk in class cuz they may not understand and may not feel comfortable
#ellchat
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:16 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
A2 Their limitations could be due to their lack of english knowledge, also they may feel embarrassed to mispronounce words
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2) Regardless of the research, our goal should be equitable opportunities for
#ELs
to engage in academic conversation.
#scaffold
#ellchat
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:16 PM EST
Amen. That is the goal!
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2) Regardless of the research, our goal should be equitable opportunities for
#ELs
to engage in academic conversation.
#scaffold
#ellchat
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2) Its true more often than not. Lack of language proficiency is mistaken for lack of knowledge or ability.
#ELLChat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:17 PM EST
problem is many techrs do not know how or do not know what ELs can do - not enough knowledge of 2nd lang acqu or SS profile
#ellchat
In reply to @MrC_A2
MorganNicole13
Dec 5 @ 9:17 PM EST
A3: I would make sure that there were specific opportunities for language learners to speak out
#ellchat
#EDCI365
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:18 PM EST
a2. Yes bc the pressure to cover makes us want to deliver content v. allow ELs to talk to process. I use this to help
#ellchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:18 PM EST
her as a korean lang learner so hard to communicate intelligent thinking in lang i do not speak specially w/academics
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:18 PM EST
Tchrs need to support ELLs' oral lang. dev. Q3 How do you intentionally make opportunities for ELLs to talk during class?
#ELLCHAT
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2 asSpanish learner, I'm 2 slow 2 talk: 1st understand the convo,then translate response, rehearse in mind.. then it's too late!
#ellchat
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3 Building active learning strategies within lessons- make it a habit!
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:19 PM EST
a2 PreK ELLs are often left out of play and are not sure how to join in when other kids are talking - they've not been to school
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:19 PM EST
Thanks! This is an excellent chart!
#ELLCHAT
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:18 PM EST
a2. Yes bc the pressure to cover makes us want to deliver content v. allow ELs to talk to process. I use this to help
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2.1 As the 1 EL tchr in 2 MS, supporting Ts and ELL Ss doesn't always grant the time needed for scaffolding, differentiating
#ELLCHAT
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3) TON of choral reading. Turn & talk w a frame we have rehearsed. Randomly call on Ss "I'll be asking what ur partner thinks."
#ELLCHAT
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 asking ELs about things they are interested in may get them talking and excited to share!
#ellchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 pair up w/lang buddy or higher EL work w/me triad small group word wall in L1 L2 electr translator dictionaries VISUALS
#ellchat
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: Sentence frames, work/picture vocal supports, Kagan strategies
#ellchat
https://t.co/dsNO2YWtc5
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: Creating projects that provide ELs opportunities to solving real-life problems helps build oral Lang.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2) I experienced this when I lived in France. By the time I figured out what to say, the convo had moved on to another topic.
#ELLCHAT
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2 asSpanish learner, I'm 2 slow 2 talk: 1st understand the convo,then translate response, rehearse in mind.. then it's too late!
#ellchat
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 Delegate responsibility, ask open-ended Qs and Qs that allow students to problem solve, embrace technology
#ELLChat
HSeslteacher
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: Selecting topics of interest, building background & adequately support for successful communication
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 In PO and ELD classes, opportunities for talk come easier. Discussions w/ sentence frames help. Built in time for talking.
#ELLCHAT
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: Academic conversation protocols
#ellchat
https://t.co/CbCoayqTnA
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3 Pre-teach vocab, activate background knowledge, ensure cultural relevancy, scaffold + sentence starters, WAIT TIME!
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
a2 I have to remind tchrs all the time : It is not OK for little kids to be silent just cuz you don't know their language!!
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
Hi everyone! Valentina, PD specialist for ELLs from TX jumping in a bit late
#ellchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
share their culture thru something impt to them use literature & nonfiction from their country so they can lead
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3.1 In cotaught settings, more deliberate wk to encourage Ss to speak. Sm group, 1 on 1, & sentence frames can help
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
All very important!
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3 Pre-teach vocab, activate background knowledge, ensure cultural relevancy, scaffold + sentence starters, WAIT TIME!
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
A4: I was a fan of using structured fish bowls for ELs in ELA classes. It's a safe way to build speaking skills.
#ellchat
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 Allow students time to look through texts, gather thoughts, share with a peer before sharing whole-group
#ellchat
Paridad_US
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 Modeling academic disc and giving ELs proper supports such as these sentence frames
https://t.co/bGkfKmTid5
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
Yes yes yes
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3 Pre-teach vocab, activate background knowledge, ensure cultural relevancy, scaffold + sentence starters, WAIT TIME!
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
A3: including activities in which students are called upon to share answers about the lesson being discussed
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
Please use A3) to answer Q3 so that we're all on the same page. Thanks.
#ELLCHAT
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:23 PM EST
So much planning required, especially w Beginning/intermediate speakers. But the structure leads to later independence. Worth it!
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 In PO and ELD classes, opportunities for talk come easier. Discussions w/ sentence frames help. Built in time for talking.
#ELLCHAT
CdeMoxo
Dec 5 @ 9:23 PM EST
#ellchat
Makes learning any other language look easy.
SrMedina_MVHS
Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM EST
Why English is so hard...
#langchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:23 PM EST
Please make sure that you put
#ELLCHAT
on your tweets so everyone in the chat can see them.
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:16 PM EST
Even if they have the opportunities, are Ss taking those opportunities to speak and share their experiences?
In reply to @MrC_A2, @judiehaynes
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3) My mentor would have a go at me if I didn’t add her favorite quote, “Really you should ask yourself, why NOT use a visual?”
#ellchat
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 Offer low-threat opportunities to practice speaking
@Blabberize
@voxopop
@littlebirdtales
@EnglishCentral
vids
#ellchat
In reply to @Blabberize, @voxopop, @littlebirdtales, @EnglishCentral
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 be intentional and make Talk a routine part of instruction cross curricularly
#ellchat
MorganNicole13
Dec 5 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4: Making sure the activities gave opportunities for group discussions and class discussions.
#ellchat
#EDCI365
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:24 PM EST
Yes, please! Let them prep a bit!
#ellchat
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 Allow students time to look through texts, gather thoughts, share with a peer before sharing whole-group
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3]
@MrC_A2
@judiehaynes
Using questioning strategies to facilitate dialogue (Bedi, 2016)
#ellchat
In reply to @MrC_A2, @judiehaynes
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:25 PM EST
Don't know this. Please explain.
#ELLCHAT
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:22 PM EST
A4: I was a fan of using structured fish bowls for ELs in ELA classes. It's a safe way to build speaking skills.
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3) I have also seen to good effect, using multiple models of a speech pattern + scaffolding, THEN asking an
#EL
for a response.
#ellchat
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:26 PM EST
A5: Developing oral language skills in English helps Ss build writing skills. Ts needs to create that bridge.
#ELLCHAT
ritaplatt
Dec 5 @ 9:26 PM EST
So true! All connected!
#ellchat
In reply to @MrsSaid17
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4) Anything we read in unison can be read to a person across the room as a conversation starter. Newcomers listen first.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3) More strategies to get ELs to think & talk
#ellchat
(Bedi,2016)
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
ELLs tend to give very short replies Q4) What activities do you use to get students to expand on the oral lang production?
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5 OLD essential to build productiv/receptve skills the + you speak the + you validate you can use L2 spills into writ list rea
#ellchat
ColorinColorado
Dec 5 @ 9:29 PM EST
Yes! Great videos here describing pre-teaching strategy to help
#ELLs
participate in science lesson
#ELLChat
In reply to @MrC_A2, @judiehaynes
maggieessig
Dec 5 @ 9:29 PM EST
A4 I'm notorious for asking "and why do you think that?" after Ss (young & old) answer questions!
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:29 PM EST
Please don't go ahead on the questions. We're on A4.
#ELLCHAT
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:29 PM EST
GREAT! Talking Heads structures the interaction and makes explicit the lang we want them to use.
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
MyMamaLingua
Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM EST
Lemur-lémur
#dailyspanish
#duallangchat
#langchat
#ellchat
#spanishforkids
#bilingualkids
#mkbkids
#mamalingua
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4 Again, I'm mentioning Talking Heads bc this technique puts the words we want our S to use in their mouths. Input & output. 💥
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
ELLs tend to give very short replies Q4) What activities do you use to get students to expand on the oral lang production?
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM EST
A$ understanding language protocol has good strats specially for older ss frames chunks lang pair work all help -use of L1 crucial
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4 Specific meaningful feedback. Levels of questioning. Asking Ss to explain or dig deeper. Develop envrnmnt for risk taking w/lang
#ellchat
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q4 have extension phrases handy: such as, for example, because, so that, in other words. Teach as talk moves, use as tools
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5.Nice analogy of talk as a bridge. I like using talk as the mortar between reading, writing, thinking
#ellchat
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:26 PM EST
A5: Developing oral language skills in English helps Ss build writing skills. Ts needs to create that bridge.
#ELLCHAT
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4 For some cultures, storytelling & recall events are vital parts of oral production.Using that to extend those lang skills is key.
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
A4 Talking Heads models effective communication and academic vocabulary. Very simple & low prep. But big rewards
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
This is excellent for ELL beginners.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
have to go to korean history & culture class & be a Korean learner great to "speak" native language for a few minutes thanks!
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
A4) Lessons on transition words have helped my students with explaining thought. Claim + evidence too. I think this b/c that.
#ellchat
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 asking ELs more in depth questions where they can give more details can help them to be more involved
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:33 PM EST
Please stay on Q4 until I post Q5 then repost. Thanks
#ELLCHAT
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5.Nice analogy of talk as a bridge. I like using talk as the mortar between reading, writing, thinking
#ellchat
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:26 PM EST
A5: Developing oral language skills in English helps Ss build writing skills. Ts needs to create that bridge.
#ELLCHAT
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 Giving Ss experiences to give out instructions/procedures in class- being able to communicate in a series of steps is crucial.
#ELLChat
Paridad_US
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
Storytelling is 1 commonality between all world cultures, regardless of literacy rates. It's an innate part of the human experience
#ellchat
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4 For some cultures, storytelling & recall events are vital parts of oral production.Using that to extend those lang skills is key.
#ellchat
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
A4: when asked a question, if the student gives a vague response, ask them to elaborate more on the topic.
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
after Ss have a structured discussion, Ts need to use student arguments to help scaffold writing
#ellchat
In reply to @TanELLclassroom
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3 One way is to change classroom labels into multilingual conversation starters like this
https://t.co/JE8BdgSY6A
#ELLCHAT
#earlyed
#NAEYC
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
Good to talk to you!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @eslmonica
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4) T lang. is key. Ss often respond shortly to answer sentence frame-type questions. So, full sentences + Qs that promote thought.
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
Inner cir tlk,outer cir listens t 1 person in the IC. OC mkes notes of the thnking being made & the lang being used
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
@Judiehaynes
Yes, but can also push our adv & adv high if you add phrases such as: further more, for example, in addition.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
This is excellent for ELL beginners.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
I love using claim, evidence, reasoning for extension in writing w/ my 8gr EL science Ss.
#ellchat
In reply to @MrC_A2
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3 I also ask
#earlyed
tchrs to learn simple questions in home languages to get kids talking even if you don’t understand them!
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Love that one as well as the conga line!
#ellchat
@TanELLclassroom
In reply to @TanELLclassroom
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
Inner cir tlk,outer cir listens t 1 person in the IC. OC mkes notes of the thnking being made & the lang being used
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 Small-group problem solving using mathematical language
#ELLChat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
This is so true. Storytelling can be a great way to foster oral lang dev.
#ELLCHAT
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4 For some cultures, storytelling & recall events are vital parts of oral production.Using that to extend those lang skills is key.
#ellchat
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
Paridad_US
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 Board games are a great way to lower affective filter, encourage oral language, and practice giving/following directions
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4) Teaching Ss how to build on another’s thought/claim. This is cool to see. “I like what A said about B, and I think C b/c D.”
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Dec 5 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3. YES! Plan informal, daily talking opps into lesson plan
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 be intentional and make Talk a routine part of instruction cross curricularly
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:37 PM EST
I agree!
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
@Judiehaynes
Yes, but can also push our adv & adv high if you add phrases such as: further more, for example, in addition.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
This is excellent for ELL beginners.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
Sara_n_deepity
Dec 5 @ 9:37 PM EST
Sara here joining late from Ca.
#ELLCHAT
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:37 PM EST
Easy to be sneaky with differentiation, too. Partner A gets simple stem, B gets complex. Push academic structures.
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
@Judiehaynes
Yes, but can also push our adv & adv high if you add phrases such as: further more, for example, in addition.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
This is excellent for ELL beginners.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
I have a tracking sheet for oc. Ss can review discussion later for essay writing
#ellchat
In reply to @TanELLclassroom, @judiehaynes
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
Truth! I remember the silence like it was yesterday. Let's change this!
#ellchat
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 Every
#earlyed
tchr should learn “Tell me about this” or “What are you making?” in each child’s L1 Endless possibilities!
#ELLCHAT
VaneLarson
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
3 Alternatives to Glogster:
https://t.co/QUvXVyxfLh
#ellchat
#educhat
#techyclassroom
#duallangchat
#multimediacolllages
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4 -modeling longer responses and providing them with sentence strips and word choices for fill in the blanks
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4) Creating an information gap really gets students talking, trying to figure out how to communicate clearly w/ comprehension.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 Getting young children to expand oral language requires lots of rich, engaging classroom materials to talk about!
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:39 PM EST
@KarenElizLewis
exactly! And teach S how to turn the conversation over to partner B.
#ellchat
In reply to @KarenElizLewis
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:37 PM EST
Easy to be sneaky with differentiation, too. Partner A gets simple stem, B gets complex. Push academic structures.
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:34 PM EST
@Judiehaynes
Yes, but can also push our adv & adv high if you add phrases such as: further more, for example, in addition.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:32 PM EST
This is excellent for ELL beginners.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Use a structured conversation strategy such as talking Heads to get the vocabulary you want to hear in their mouths
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q5) Do you think developing stronger oral language skills in ELLs increases their learning in other areas? How?
#ELLCHAT
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:40 PM EST
Sounds interesting! whats an example?
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @MrC_A2
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4 One thing doesn’t work on expanding oral lang in young kids is circle time where tchr just peppers kids with questions :(
#ELLCHAT
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
We can change it by giving all students a voice, regardless of where they come from and what language they speak
#ELLchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
Truth! I remember the silence like it was yesterday. Let's change this!
#ellchat
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
eslmonica
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
same here! On subway now practicing reading signs figuring language out
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @judiehaynes, @eslmonica
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
Gen Ed teachers need strategies to include ELLs in class discussions.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
Truth! I remember the silence like it was yesterday. Let's change this!
#ellchat
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4 One thing DOES work with young kids oral lang: setting up conversations they can have with each other in L1 or L2
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
I've noticed that talk seems to decrease in classrooms as kids get older. 😔
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 Getting young children to expand oral language requires lots of rich, engaging classroom materials to talk about!
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
Q5) 1 of the first lessons I focused on this year was a lesson on Asking For Clarification. Teaching Ss to ask Qs and record info.
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
A5) 1 of the first lessons I focused on this year was a lesson on Asking For Clarification. Teaching Ss to ask Qs and record info.
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Dec 5 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5: Oral language is foundation for reading, writing & speaking. Hard to read, write or say a word if you've never heard it before!
#ellchat
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:42 PM EST
Sweet idea!
#ellchat
MrsSaid17
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
I have a tracking sheet for oc. Ss can review discussion later for essay writing
#ellchat
In reply to @TanELLclassroom, @judiehaynes
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5: "If you can think it, you can say it. If you can say it, you can write it." Yes oral Lang has correlation w/ other Lang domains
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 That’s why project based learning is so powerful for ELLs of all ages, I think. It is perfect for lots of meaningful talk!
#ELLCHAT
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5 Yes, the more Ss are talking the more involved and engaged they will be in every aspect of their learning
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:43 PM EST
I agree
@judiehaynes
Intentional talk cross curricularly
#ellchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
Gen Ed teachers need strategies to include ELLs in class discussions.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
Truth! I remember the silence like it was yesterday. Let's change this!
#ellchat
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5) I say that to say that language in other content areas can also be used to clarify and understand academic content deeper.
#ellchat
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:43 PM EST
Yes! Some are so easy! Talking Heads, QSSSR, accountable talk stems, esp 4 restating. Any teacher can start these tomorrow!
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM EST
Gen Ed teachers need strategies to include ELLs in class discussions.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM EST
Truth! I remember the silence like it was yesterday. Let's change this!
#ellchat
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
A5: being able to speak a language facilitates reading skills by phonics. Students are able to sound out words
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4) i agree Karen. Maker Ed also fosters oral language when small groups work together.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 That’s why project based learning is so powerful for ELLs of all ages, I think. It is perfect for lots of meaningful talk!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM EST
May be true, but is not OK - gen ed teachers need to learn how to make welcoming environments for ALL learners!
#ELLCHAT
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes.ELLs are mostly quiet in mainstream settings & mostly talk in ESL pull out where they feel more at ease & accepted
#ELLchat
In reply to @judiehaynes
ColorinColorado
Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4) Video Playlist: Engaging ELLs in Academic Conversations
https://t.co/Iz15aozQTq
via
@TeachingChannel
#ellchat
In reply to @TeachingChannel
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM EST
Stronger language skills increase Ss class participation & use of skills & vocabulary learned in class ensuring lifelong learning
#ELLchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q5) Do you think developing stronger oral language skills in ELLs increases their learning in other areas? How?
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 YES,when S can talk like scientists or mathematicians they can write & understand like scientists or mathematicians
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q5) Do you think developing stronger oral language skills in ELLs increases their learning in other areas? How?
#ELLCHAT
TwitLiveEvents
Dec 5 @ 9:45 PM EST
December 05, 2016 at 10:00PM Twitter Chat -
#ellchat
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Paridad_US
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5 "We listen a book a day, we speak a book a week, we read a book a month, and we write a book a year." Quote shows OL is crucial
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4 High interest topics in science are also great explorations to build oral language - ideas here:
https://t.co/HQzxZQUt4i
#ellchat
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
Great series. Worth the time to watch.
#ellchat
ColorinColorado
Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4) Video Playlist: Engaging ELLs in Academic Conversations
https://t.co/Iz15aozQTq
via
@TeachingChannel
#ellchat
In reply to @TeachingChannel
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q6 - How do you balance support of oral language in students' home languages and English?
#ELLCHAT
NatashaRRivera
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
@judiehaynes
absolutely!! That's exactly what ESL teachers are trying to change
#ELLchat
#TeachersAsAdvocates
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM, @judiehaynes
ColorinColorado
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4) 5 Reasons Not to Use Round Robin Reading with ELLs
https://t.co/77UqHJNked
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:48 PM EST
A4) Excellent article!
#ELLCHAT
ColorinColorado
Dec 5 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4) 5 Reasons Not to Use Round Robin Reading with ELLs
https://t.co/77UqHJNked
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:48 PM EST
a5 There is LOTS of research in
#earlyed
showing that oral language in real CONVERSATIONS is best vocab builder for all langs
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:48 PM EST
A6) I often ask Ss how they say what I am teaching about in their L1. Making learning a two way street, to show I too am learning.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:49 PM EST
A6) Oral Language Development and ELLs : Challenges & Solutions.
https://t.co/AHhAklZulj
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 Also lot of research in
#earlyed
showing that students do best with phonemic awareness when they hear themselves saying sounds
#ELLcHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:49 PM EST
A6) Key Strategies for Developing Oral Language
https://t.co/JWONZFHvIF
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:50 PM EST
a5 Yet I know several researchers who tried to study early oral lang in multilingual - and found it sadly rare in most classrooms
#ELLCHAT
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6 Being fluent in Spanish allows me to interact with these Ss in both lang & affirm their L1 literacy.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5 Colleges teach tchrs how to say stuff, but don’t prepare them to be good conversation partners - hurts language dev!
#ELLCHAT
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6 Learning some of the native language of the ELs can make them feel excited and comfortable
#ellchat
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6) I often have students discuss something in L1 to build thought, then give wait time + scaffolds, and then ask for a response.
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:51 PM EST
A6.1 For Ss who speak other lang (than Spanish) I give opps to teach me about their L1 & affirm their L1 skills as powerful tools
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 That’s why project based learning is so successful - students learn and USE useful lang in multiple domains.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:51 PM EST
I like this idea.
#ELLCHAT
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6) I often have students discuss something in L1 to build thought, then give wait time + scaffolds, and then ask for a response.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q7- What professional learning resources have helped you enhance your practice to support oral language?
#ELLCHAT
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:52 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
A6: students can use their L1 when stuck on certain words so I could help them find the word they seek.
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
YES!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:48 PM EST
a5 There is LOTS of research in
#earlyed
showing that oral language in real CONVERSATIONS is best vocab builder for all langs
#ELLCHAT
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5) YES! Oral language proficiency allows for more collaboration & social learning across content areas.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5 “The Role of Oral Language in Early Literacy”
https://t.co/0qWCKX3UDk
#ELLCHAT
#earlyed
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5 if S read aloud for 10 min daily they will have 60 hours of practice speaking by the end of the year! In correct grammar too
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 Also lot of research in
#earlyed
showing that students do best with phonemic awareness when they hear themselves saying sounds
#ELLcHAT
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6) In HS we offer foreign language but many different languages and only ESL classes. We encourage native language peer tutoring.
#ELLCHAT
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
Q7: just saw Nancy Motley's Talk, Read, Talk, Write. So straightforward and hits all domains.
#ELLcHAT
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:54 PM EST
Great use of L1!
#ELLCHAT
techyakeline
Dec 5 @ 9:52 PM EST
#ELLchat
#EDCI365
A6: students can use their L1 when stuck on certain words so I could help them find the word they seek.
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5 “Robust link between preschool language and literacy”
https://t.co/dsQEhhqajL
#ELLCHAT
ShadSalem
Dec 5 @ 9:54 PM EST
A7 Total Participation Techniques a book by Pérsida Himmele & William Himmele has a ton strategies for talk and active learning
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5) I read research that said reading aloud isn't really oral language development. Do you agree?
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5 if S read aloud for 10 min daily they will have 60 hours of practice speaking by the end of the year! In correct grammar too
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 Also lot of research in
#earlyed
showing that students do best with phonemic awareness when they hear themselves saying sounds
#ELLcHAT
MrC_A2
Dec 5 @ 9:56 PM EST
A7) This is a great question, one I have yet to really explore. Any good resources are welcome!!!
#ellchat
@TanELLclassroom
?
In reply to @judiehaynes, @TanELLclassroom
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:56 PM EST
A5 Lots of great studies by Carol Hammer on oral language development in bilingual young children
https://t.co/QBO3frniLT
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:56 PM EST
A7 7 Steps to A language rich interactive classroom
#ellchat
MsSalvac
Dec 5 @ 9:57 PM EST
Agreed! I recommend
@nancymotleyTRTW
's training to all. It's not exclusively for EL's but hits all they need.
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @KarenElizLewis, @nancymotleyTRTW
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6 Academic Conversations by Jeff Zwiers, learning more about SIOP, wait time v. talk time
#ELLCHAT
Sara_n_deepity
Dec 5 @ 9:58 PM EST
A7) this is a great resource.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:58 PM EST
A5 Also great research by Lisa Lopez here
https://t.co/hiPylL9x9z
on bilingual lang dev
#ELLCHAT
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:58 PM EST
Sorry this is A7
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:58 PM EST
@judiehaynes
I would like to see that research. I've read the opposite. I think it offers a good model of Eng Lang for S.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5) I read research that said reading aloud isn't really oral language development. Do you agree?
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Dec 5 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5 if S read aloud for 10 min daily they will have 60 hours of practice speaking by the end of the year! In correct grammar too
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 Also lot of research in
#earlyed
showing that students do best with phonemic awareness when they hear themselves saying sounds
#ELLcHAT
KarenElizLewis
Dec 5 @ 9:59 PM EST
https://t.co/alMiYloh7l
If you have handle the video setup, I love watching Zwiers demo his pro/con debate
#ellchat
ms_abendroth
Dec 5 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6 Academic Conversations by Jeff Zwiers, learning more about SIOP, wait time v. talk time
#ELLCHAT