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Thursday March 16, 2017
7:30 PM EDT
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Welcome to an open discussion about reliable information sources
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participatechat
Mar 16 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
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Happy Thursday! Let's get started
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
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For example, I use databases like GALE, EBSCO
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
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who's on the chat, please remember to add the #!
jbk97
Mar 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Jessica from Haynes Bridge here. We encourage use of databases through MackinVia.
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ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Ready! Thanks
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for hosting
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Tteachcreators2
Mar 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
My S's use MackinVIA for vetted databases.
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ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
interesting comment from 5th S today about social studies. They have studies yellow journalism - perfect tie in to this topic.
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EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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I try to show my kids databases thru MackinVIA
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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peer reviewed and vetted are the better ideas - I agree and through MackinVIA we have many opportunities
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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when I teach Ss, I also show pics - use them as ideas of what may not be real....
hillside_media
Mar 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Kathleen from Hillside joining in.
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HubbardsStacy
Mar 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
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I use
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to support my students and teachers with projects
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Tteachcreators2
Mar 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
My S's use MackinVIA for vetted databases.
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
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do you think this video is real? "I saw it on the internet"!
https://t.co/NtgSuk9DPV
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Hope that Ss use databases provided - I know Ts assign also. Students becoming better at noticing the sources... I think!
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
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yes the more we can get people to use the databases rather than internet, better for Ss
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Hope that Ss use databases provided - I know Ts assign also. Students becoming better at noticing the sources... I think!
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
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Ss need to understand that pics and videos may also be problematic - toaster video was fake :-)
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
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welll sure it's real! :)
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
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students write blogs, is everything that they write informative or peer reviewed? Could be a good lesson !
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
For some questions/info at the El level basic db are fine. But for 'fake news' convo - more difficult to research.. convos help
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DarrenClayEDU
Mar 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
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a1) We encourage Ss to use
@MackinVIA
@DiscoveryEd
@bing
&
https://t.co/H4KULnOCfZ
for safe & reliable sources
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jbk97
Mar 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
toaster video was fake because it was obviously staged. common sense is important
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hillside_media
Mar 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A3 it certainly seems that many news stories aren't fact-checked
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brainywizards
Mar 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
Definitely think that would be the way to go. Esp with upper Elem Ss. Got to have them ready for MS rigor.
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EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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I try to show my kids databases thru MackinVIA
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HubbardsStacy
Mar 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
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Q3: Video, articles (i.e.fake news) can have misleading information in them that sometimes ours students cannot detect.
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
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have you looked at
https://t.co/a1JOJISrSR
? Has a lot of real looking articles but all fake
Tteachcreators2
Mar 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
Using pics to aid S's in processing and applying information is key!
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
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What's a discussion about accurate info without this question?
EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
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sometimes I see my kids find reviews and comments and think that is factual information as opposed to random people's comments
MissRioux
Mar 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A4: Learning to verify information & timely.
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... sorry I am late!
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
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What's a discussion about accurate info without this question?
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Are there examples of wikipedia issues to share with Ss? I have not thought to look.
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
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@ugamartha
yes, Wikipedia does have some valuable info about their service you can use to educate Ss
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jbk97
Mar 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
I tell Ss to confirm facts with 2 or more sources. Today it's harder to explain reliable sources.
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HubbardsStacy
Mar 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
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Some information in Wikipedia is false. Ss should be encouraged to use more than one source to cross reference their research
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Sorry. I keep forgetting to put A and the question number.
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
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@jbk97
that was my next slide .... ha!
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EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Well lots of info on Wikipedia is accurate but I always tell my kids to verify by checking two other sources
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EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
so true!
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
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Wikipedia has become more accurate, but it's only as accurate as what people put in it! I say it's ok as a starting place...
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
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hillside_media
Mar 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
A4 Wikipedia can be a starting point for Ss. Also, a good way to explain how not pages can be changed w/ease
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jbk97
Mar 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
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A4-pro-Ss can use the references in Wikipedia for more sources.
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
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@jbk97
yes, the Wikipedia links may be better than the articles! Citations are always a way to help vet info
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EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Kathy Schrock's 5w's
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HubbardsStacy
Mar 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
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Q5: Focus on bias perspective that the author my present and the reliability of the information.
MissRioux
Mar 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A5: look for facts not opinions.
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
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@EllenReagin
Kathy Schrock has a great website, here's a page about eh 5Ws & fake news websites
https://t.co/ncFgdq3RVS
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
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Aside from the 5Ws I use....
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
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I like the ABCD method - it's easy to remember and to explain. A good starting point for discussion
jbk97
Mar 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
A5- bias and opinion
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
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and for the rest of the ABCD...
EllenReagin
Mar 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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oh I like this!
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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@jbk97
Especially these days, not only has bias become a concern but so has satire - Ss don't always know the difference
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
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Looking at the "about us" page doesn't dig deep enough, need to Google the person to see credentials
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
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Content - another of the items that Ss may stumble over...is it relevant to what they are researching? It is well written?
hillside_media
Mar 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
A5 trying to keep the Ss away from Google to using databases. More reliable and safer searches,issues w/ inappropriate searches
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
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not on a slide...but what of the ABCDs do you teach as the first thing they need to look at when reviewing a website?
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
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Google/Bing, etc has become the "go to" for research....need to teach Ts and Ss to use our databases/MackinVia
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A5 this is very difficult. As Ts assign things w lessons / links embedded hard to be ahead. S told me today fake news is
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ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A5 cont'd Washington post and NYTimes. To work through that was more than I had in me. :(
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:09 PM EDT
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:10 PM EDT
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I LOVE this Infographic -
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A5 I would consider author and date I think.
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:11 PM EDT
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@ugamartha
Date is very important especially if we need current info...also relevant when using databases
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:13 PM EDT
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EasyBib has some great sources for teaching about relevancy and sources, not just a citation builder!
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
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The question goes both ways, what do we show that is fake in order to show what would be reliable!
SearcyTAG
Mar 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
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. Check out The Library of Congress digitally.
https://t.co/Ysj1nrKPM5
Amazing resource.
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:17 PM EDT
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Fantastic source
@SearcyTAG
Thank you !
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SearcyTAG
Mar 16 @ 8:16 PM EDT
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. Check out The Library of Congress digitally.
https://t.co/Ysj1nrKPM5
Amazing resource.
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A7 OUr teachers like Pacific Octopus and Explorers. Saw some good ideas on EasyBib article you shared
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:18 PM EDT
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Gotta love the Tree Octopus website - kids always enjoy it !
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
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https://t.co/Gjdq39Rlf4
is a good fact checking source as well
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:20 PM EDT
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the Kathy Schrock link I posted earlier has many websites that are good to show Ss - need to beware of age of S and content!
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:22 PM EDT
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and for my last question....citations are important when reviewing info as well as when writing papers.
ugamartha
Mar 16 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q8 I use the copy/paste features in databases we have through MackinVia.
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jbk97
Mar 16 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Easybib and noodletools are good
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KatiSearcy
Mar 16 @ 8:25 PM EDT
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I've spent today at the U.S. Patent Office & Library of Congress. The most reliable sources are primary documents.
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:25 PM EDT
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Easy for Ts & Ss are the MLA citations in the databases - easy to use!
BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:26 PM EDT
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@SearcyTAG
Primary sources are definitely the MOST reliable, always good to teach Ss to look for them!
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BVRMiller
Mar 16 @ 8:28 PM EDT
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Thanks for listening in...the fake/real info has been a hot topic lately and many Ss need help with the topic.
hillside_media
Mar 16 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Thanks
@BVRMiller
for hosting! Very important topic
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