#ankedchat Archive
Thursday September 29, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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we are really glad you’re here - tell everyone your favorite fall activity.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Megan, 8/9 Math SVM - I love sitting on my deck with the fire pit going!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Dave - SS at Centennial HS and co-mod of this here chat.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:02 PM EDT
We use the Q1/A1 format. There are 8 Qs as we discuss behaviors - the good, the bad, the ugly. Be sure to include
#ankedchat
in your tweets.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:03 PM EDT
If you often forget to include the # or are challenged to follow along, try this link to follow along:
https://t.co/gWS4yasH9F
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:03 PM EDT
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F is for fall and for FOOTBALL - HS and college football is the best thing about fall.
DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:03 PM EDT
We use the Q1/A1 format. There are 8 Qs as we discuss behaviors productive group work. Be sure to include
#ankedchat
in your tweets.
BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Burton Hable, Assistant Director of Bands at Centennial HS. I love Fall for the football and marching band!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
https://t.co/U24k5Ne56L
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
https://t.co/DmriaqjeGe
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@BurtonHable
B is for Burton and for Band!
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I get to participate tonight because my wife is watching Project Runway… Looking forward to
#ankedchat
as a distraction!
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q6: What are some tips for beginners to make initial group lessons successful?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What are characteristics of successful productive group work?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
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challenge - all lurkers come out and join the fun. We want to learn from you as well!
chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Melanie Gildharry, Instructional Texh Coordinator for DMPS. Love carving pumpkins, having fires outside!!!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
Welcome back Melanie!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: IMO Purpose, Roles, & Goals are the 3 keys to success of PGW
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
Welcome Melanie - so happy to have you!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
fall bonfires are epic!
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Listening and respecting opinions, communicating clearly, pulling your weight, enjoying each other's company!
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Roles, expectations, goals and a feeling of shared responsibility.
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Bring on those A1 tweets! We are looking to implement PGW in our large ensembles. Excited to learn from everyone
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
has to be communication!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: End product that the grp must develop together.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
Hey Nathan! Shared responsibility is a good one.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
Hi Nathan! Yes to all of these!
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
Happy to be here! Reminder from
@DRich0696
helped!
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Nathan Kleinmeyer, joining in a bit late, I was giving feedback on the Boston Massacre & Tea Party 8th History in Plattsmouth, NE
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Also trying this
https://t.co/PhHygxS91l
for the first time. This is working way better than Tweetbot!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@BurtonHable
Is band a group thing? Any cooperation required? Ya probably, huh?
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Totally agree! Fall isn't fall without them!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@BurtonHable
Great to hear!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
feedback via...
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:11 PM EDT
We just don't want this group.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q2: What type(s) of groupings have proven most productive for you?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Nooooo! Hate this group.
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:11 PM EDT
We just don't want this group.
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https://t.co/UNisrerSB9
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2: Ability groups based on formative data - helps me differentiate so much better!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: I like hetero groups that I choose - hand selecting for specific needs and taking students out of their comfort zones a bit.
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
Hilarious! This is true of so many groups I was in while in school!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Challenge high performers by pairing with middle level students. Mid level Ss are great models for lower Ss w/o pressure.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
Do you have any tech add-ons or apps that group for you after grading your formative?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
Which one were you? Ha!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
https://t.co/QsWs3VlCx8
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Just a spreadsheet that I sort. When in doubt, I use a spreadsheet...
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: I do a lot of TPS with who ever is closest.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
uhhh what???
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@alneppl
I thought you were excited about the topic tonight? Where are the
#RockCreek
peeps?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:17 PM EDT
That was the coolest thing today - to see that sent to all staff at RC!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@alneppl
I thought you were excited about the topic tonight? Where are the
#RockCreek
peeps?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Q3: What specific behaviors do you have to teach to ensure success in groups?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@alneppl
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Please read this if you’ve have trouble seeing everyone’s tweets in the chat:
https://t.co/QsWs3VlCx8
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A3: I spend a lot of time (everyday) on roles - modeling in particular.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A3: Have to teach expectations for all group work and roles. Don't expect them to know just because they're (pick an age...)
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A3: Rehearsal behaviors. How to productively contribute to the group as a whole.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A3: how to stay on task (hence the task manager)
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@DRich0696
They don't even have the capacity for these skills until 20+!
https://t.co/rdxHIgJkCd
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@BurtonHable
Putting the good of the group over the good of the individual is sometimes tough for a young brain.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@alneppl
We still use these at the secondary level too!
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Especially when it comes to our student leaders! How can you positively influence your peers negative behavior?
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I followed the directions to turn off the Quality Filter but not seeing the questions???
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q3 -
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https://t.co/gLNqbI5zPz
DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Q3: What specific behaviors do you have to teach to ensure success in groups?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@alneppl
Same! We talked about that at lunch today.
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: I've found that modeling what each role looks like. For bigger projects making sure we have self check/reflection skills.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I have a group reflection sheet all made up - now just need to conf w/ each grp.
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: I've found that modeling what each role looks like. For bigger projects making sure we have self check/reflection skills.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q4: How do you get Ss to work cooperatively as a group? How do you use specific roles or jobs?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
For longer durations we might need to revisit the modeling often.
#theyforget
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A5: Roles must be interdependent - they have to rely on each other and hold each other accountable.
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A4: Lucky to have the built-in goal of public performance. No one wants the band to do poorly! We set a lot of smaller goals too
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: Learning to listen. Holding each other accountable in a respectful way!
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A4: I always made sure the roles were given to students who could handle the responsibilities. Assign an assistant to major roles
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A4: With 8th graders, I go in with a plan for roles & then let them figure it out on their own. They usually get what I have.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A4: Our curric set 4 roles: Facilitator, Recorder/Reporter, Task Mgr, Resource Mgr
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@alneppl
Love this! We do the same thing in US History in 11th grade.
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Out of curiosity, knowing my personality as a MS and HS student, do the kids enjoy PGW? Do they contribute at a high level?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:29 PM EDT
It's a struggle for sure - but when most classes are doing it - it definitely helps the culture.
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Out of curiosity, knowing my personality as a MS and HS student, do the kids enjoy PGW? Do they contribute at a high level?
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JimWichman
Sep 29 @ 9:29 PM EDT
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Roles clarified, practiced, & modeled. Then done again throughout the year.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@JimWichman
Hi Jim! - Great to have you!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q5: How is your preparation different for group work compared to independent work?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@JimWichman
Hey Jim - glad you dropped in!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A5: I try to ensure that each role will play a part in each task. So that takes a little more time to prep.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A5: If a collaborative culture is established, prep is similar. Group work is certainly enhanced by 1:1 and planning is easier.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A5: Scaffolding is easier in groups than individually - less prep on a daily basis.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
Granted, I'm really old, but we had listening tests in elementary school. Listened to audiotapes then had a test.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
interdependence is a key.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@alneppl
facilitator is my goal - I have spent way too much time "on stage" in my career. I need to be beside them instead.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q6: What are some tips for beginners to make initial group lessons successful?
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A6: Start with a small task that can be accomplished in a class period with each role playing a part.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A6: Don't be afraid to stop and adjust if things are not going a you anticipate.
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JimWichman
Sep 29 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Make sure roles are clear and have purpose for success in the task.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q6: What are some tips for beginners to make initial group lessons successful?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A6: It might get loud but if they are focused the volume isn't a problem.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:38 PM EDT
.
@JimWichman
- just saw that you asked for this.
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https://t.co/jNdpvlg5fG
DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q5: How is your preparation different for group work compared to independent work?
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chemelnalic
Sep 29 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A6: Make sure expectations are clear so there is no confusion. Assign roles rather than just letting them loose!!!
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6: Have a goal in mind, but be flexible. Check in with students often on progress. Ensure learning is happening. It will be loud
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:40 PM EDT
.
@alneppl
YES!!!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@chemelnalic
Loosey goosey roles usually end up badly.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q7: What happens when changes need to be made in the middle of a group task/project?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@alneppl
@NKleinmeyer
Agree with you both - loud isn't noise if work is being done!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A7: Don't be afraid to admit that things aren't perfect - try a different plan with confidence. Let kids see your vulnerability.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A7: Hit the pause button FOR SURE! Trust your instincts!
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JimWichman
Sep 29 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Squirrel...
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AnkenyPRMS
Sep 29 @ 4:15 PM EDT
Shoutout to our bigs at
@ankeny_jaguars
for pepping us up!
#AllMeansALL
!
https://t.co/xJ6Egy3tDd
DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@JimWichman
Looks like it was a great day at PRMS today!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@alneppl
modeling failing forward is the only way to get Ss to take risks consistently in the classroom. It's a MUST.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q8: What goals or products seem to be the most motivational for group engagement?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A8: My Ss are motivated by direct connection to success on assessments. If the group learning relates to their growth they're in.
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A8: Students love competitions, even something goofy. Make a game of it, or a award prizes for best role in a group.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A8: Tasks that are too hard to complete independently but as a group working together can achieve the end result.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A8: Public praise praise praise
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
They really appreciate the group aspect when the task is challenging.
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JimWichman
Sep 29 @ 9:51 PM EDT
I have a sick kid resting next to me. I chose this over emails.
#Winning
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BurtonHable
Sep 29 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I get to participate tonight because my wife is watching Project Runway… Looking forward to
#ankedchat
as a distraction!
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@DRich0696
if it's too easy - it kinda defeats the purpose if they can do it on their own.
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ACHSLib
Sep 29 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A8: Like us, they want to be able to have something they can use again when they finish.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
Truth - they love games and competing against each other - not for grades but for little contests.
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 29 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7: Love the breakout boxes. I've seen them from early elementary all the way thru high school and beyond. Great for group think.
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JimWichman
Sep 29 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q8: Internal sense of accomplishment.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@JimWichman
We're glad you did!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Yes, needs to have a purpose!
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ACHSLib
Sep 29 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A8: Like us, they want to be able to have something they can use again when they finish.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone who came out to play tonight!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Sep 29 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Keep up the great work! Always great being together
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!