#EdTechAfterDark Archive
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Monday July 25, 2016
I'm following to - seems to be the place to be
it's been too long - thought I'd catch up here
OVER!! But since I'm the only one at my house that knows how to change the roll, it's always right!
Ground Rules:
1)Respect each other
2)Attack the argument, not the person
3)Seek common ground
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Hi, all! Lisa, IC from Chicago suburbs. Excited for tonight's lineup of questions!
Caren, Media Coordinator from North Carolina!
The boys at have me wondering if it is best to lurk tonight.
LOL no one at my house ever complains because they know they'd be volunteering themselves!
It has been too long! So good to see you!
Corey here from all over the state of Florida but based in St Petersburg ready to join in
why thank you - what a welcome!
so no blood.....okay...I guess....
Hello .....Cherie, from Illinois.....rap artist??....ummmm.....Jay-Z?
Hi all, Victoria, media specialist from Nebraska
nathan, King of the doofi, DJ jazzy Jeff and the fresh prince
Have to answer again, love the rap question! Lisa, IC, Chicago. So many answers, but Snoop Dog is first on my list.
Hi, Kimberly, Media Specialist from Daytona Beach here! Is it wrong that I LOVE Ice T?
Let's get ready to RUMBLE! Free speech is a wonderful thing.
Rap?? My girls are going to see Snoop Dogg tomorrow night! ME...Not so much rap!
Ms. Pursley/ELA teacher from Berkeley County, SC... back for a second week in a row.
I am Terry, 3rd gr T in Fl. As close as I come to a favorite artist is
A1 This is a tough one. If it can be useful and does no harm then we should collect data. We need iteration and data is key
San here from Fl! Tech integration specialist for and 1/3 of the trio!
Chris Tucker, assistant principal in Indiana.
Marifran, HS librarian from NY, Sugarhill Gang
Hey ! I'm Bethany, K teacher in ID. My fave is probably 2pac.
and to let you know the doofi is plural for doofus
Hi, . I'm Brian. I teach MS Ss Eng in CO. Referencing the pre-debate: Didn't Naughty by Nature sing, "I'm down with TP"?
hey Corey!! Everyone give Corey some love he helped us out a TON today!!!
Owen tech integration specialist I love Boogat
Hey Corey! Caught any lately?
Ivan K-5 NJ still Run DMC. yeah, old school
Now that puts it that way, Corey; Account Executive in ; A Tribe Called Quest "Electric Relaxation"
I teach HS Social Studies - Government and dual credit classes :)
Dan here from Fl! Tech integration specialist for and 1/3 of the trio!
Zac from Lecanto, FL Learning Lab Manager and favorite rapper is Biggie Smalls
I had to suffer thru OPP when I was first a T, since my initials are that
Yay! Another Media Specialist !
Missed the question ☺️ Sylvia .. Writing Coach and EngDH .. Tampa, FL .. Rap artist? LLCoolJ https://t.co/sE6ec7x0hA
holding down for the West Side!!
The exact moment I see in my head when I hear the phrase!
Do you know I had no idea what that stood for until the last couple of years! LOL!
Laura - about to begin a new job as Instr Res Teacher (Math) and
awesome! What's up, Andrew??
HI! Kali here, kindergarten teacher from Clearwater, FL. My 1st chat tonight!
oh yeah ladies love cool james
Innovative Teaching strategist from Texas.
Laura, HS English Teacher, and Bone Thugs 'n Harmony like a true 90s kid.
Hey guys! Emily, the resident student chatter here. I'm in my old genius squad T-Shirt and Batman Pjs ready to debate!
HI Terry. I see you are up to the same thing I am tonight.
A1 I'm not sure we collect any data, I've certainly never seen it used to drive instruction
How soon until schools sell Ss (& Ts) personal info to the highest bidder in order to stay afloat?
Yes! Bone Thugs N Harmony was the first CD I bought when CD's became the big thing!
Can't be a sellout. The world needs authenticity! ;)
Hi Zac. Looking forward the chat tonight.
A1 .. S info/data behind 2-3 passwords should be private ... S work submitted publicly is public https://t.co/SA7Brs7fq7
hey Kali welcome! We are thrilled to have you
I hate to be an alarmist, but you may be right? https://t.co/XUyVByWAFe
How soon until schools sell Ss (& Ts) personal info to the highest bidder in order to stay afloat?
can you explain what you mean? Who would be they buyer? And for what purpose?
A1: it really depends on what software but in this age, who can we trust? Many Edtech company's are out for cash first.
Hi, Marc - Grade 5/6 Eagle London, Canada
Somewhat distracted by but, keen to participate.
I bought an T-shirt today, go me!
I thought maybe they were. Wow, you have quite the support team! I'm a little jealous.
Where can you get such a thing? I want one!
ummm... There are rules that prohibit that
A1. What they do on district-owned devices is open to district scrutiny, but it shouldn't be shared w/o permission.
A1: I really think it depends on what the software is asking from the Ss.
A1: collecting it is not an invasion. How it's used could be, though.
A1: possibly - let's see what's done with it
Students have no "right to privacy." (Actually, none of us do.) That's why we need to protect them. https://t.co/k67tXif8QX
A1 I don't think so, but it depends on how it is being used. Is it deleted at the end of the year? Who has access?
A1) I might be biased in my answer based on what I do but your students data is only safe if stored on servers in district
Bob Abrams. HS AP, moderator. 1st timer for
A1: it depends on who is obtaining the S data.To drive instruction, sure. For profit, no.
A1Students leave digital footprints all over the inter webs. This info is available but is it our job to go looking?
A1 Depends on info taken and how it's been used.
So very sad!!!! We need to model the model -- NOT selling out 🙏🏻💜 https://t.co/gKWarX0Y9A
I hate to be an alarmist, but you may be right? https://t.co/XUyVByWAFe
How soon until schools sell Ss (& Ts) personal info to the highest bidder in order to stay afloat?
A1: Somewhat. We are getting better. Things moved too quickly for our board's team to make the optimal choices.
Also, does that extend to anything that is done on the district network?
A1: not concerned. Not sure what anyone would do with the data. Plus, Ts & Ss put themselves out there in other capacities.
A2 Tracking is a bad word but there should be ways in and out of gifted programs depending on merit and changing needs.
A1: We need to model staying safe online and being aware of the digital footprint they are leaving.
Exactly==is it used to help Ss improve?
Amazon. Google. Facebook. etc. - Anyone who buys information to sell. It's a commodity in the info Age.
A1: I am sure I don't really know what information is being collected. Where do we draw the lines? Not sure.
A1: Had a Ss tell me it was. I think there's a diff. between "personal" & "personalized." Ss need 2 know difference.
Hello Anabel from NC. Hope everyone's week has started off well.
Help get this person an T shirt, I forgot the link, I'm on phone, too hard to find https://t.co/m32rI7BfiI
Where can you get such a thing? I want one!
Good. https://t.co/IxxXMvlJC0
A1: Had a Ss tell me it was. I think there's a diff. between "personal" & "personalized." Ss need 2 know difference.
A1 tangent: Might learning rely on some measure of publicity -- information sharing that constitutes *not* privacy?
We are told that yes, it does.
we silently take over every room
A1: As long as it is not Ss personal information. If it's their work, I subscribe to "if you know it, show it"
A1 Depends on how info gets used. Never seen it utilized to help Ss, so why?
A1 B/c the school sets a mood and tone for interactions amongst people. We need to show how to constructively interact
COPPA only protects up to age 13. But what if we are manipulated to give it away? https://t.co/s6wUkeh3Vx
ummm... There are rules that prohibit that
This may be an issue worth addressing also in . Do Ss even know what info they r sharing? https://t.co/DOj5GyRObe
A1: I am sure I don't really know what information is being collected. Where do we draw the lines? Not sure.
A1) certain things we can't share, but Ss live more and more in a digital space where we publish instead of turn in
A1, we have literacy program, at end of year, P asked me what the results were, i was like, ehat results
A1: In our district when one signs an AUP you're subject to open records.
I was just thinking that same thing! We strive for global connections, we just need to do it safely!
Mike from MD. Insane LMS in EL.
Everything I can decline to state, I do.
hey Anabel great to see you
I'm going to print that on a poster and frame it in my bathroom!!! WINNING!
no problem, love the site, going to make my shirt idea there
A1: Ppl continue to sell their personal info (aka PII) for trinkets not realizing what they give away. Need Education.
Not without FULL knowledge & consent of parents/guardians.
From at re: big data companies: "Our outputs become their inputs; their outputs become our choices."
True. Thank you for the input, Beth! Be sure to use the hashtag to join the discussion😄👍 https://t.co/yOdXxRdxzO
students agree to terms of use-
A2: I am a former gifted teacher, current differentiation IC. I see no need for a gifted track in today's world.
A1: Schools reserve the right to monitor incoming/outgoing data on its devices, but S passwords & SM handles are private.
A2 .. 1 of 2 ... if Ts are differentiating instruction > all Ss needs are met in same classroom https://t.co/ZyIW5rBmt1
A1 It all about being aware of what's shared/collected. Digital sharing of work isnt much diff than public bulletinboards
A2: We have to do something...failing them...but with lots of tech options, can bring gifted program into mainstream.
depends on whether Hillary or Bernie is in office
A2 We have Ss gifted in many areas. We should recognize those gifts in our Ss and find ways to help them expand.
A2. If only to inflate numbers, no. There are Ss in these classes who have no business being in them.
A2: In a differentiated classroom, their doesn't need to be an isolated class of honors Ss.
A2: At one time it was the standard why not have gifted instruction for all?
A2) i think every S should be treated as gifted set expectations high and differentiate
A2 If there is still a need for special ed services, there's still a need for gifted & talented. All Ss need pushing to max
A2: I guess we need 2 define what "gifted" entails. Can all Ss, w/practice, be gifted?
A2: Dweck's makes me hesitant to call any child "gifted". Intelligence cannot be seen as innate...
I am so glad to hear you say that bc I agree. But yet there is a push to get Ss identified and placed.
not to mention all the apps and web services that we, plus Ss, sign up for with Google accts,
A2: edu trend is lending itself more towards gifted teaching. But we still need a GT endorsement to be able to teach GT Ss.
A2: We had the issue of every parent wanting their kids in honors, it really hurt the gen ed classes.
A2 2/2 ... We should ALL learn from each other - GATE, VE, Trad, Honors, genders, cultures, T, etc https://t.co/ZyIW5rBmt1
That's so true. Need to be able to break it down for everyone (teachers included).
A2: I like to think that I differentiate enough on my own. However, I will always take extra help.
A2:Gifted screenings use mult data points & Ss aren't just skipping grades. Gifted Ss do have diff learning needs
A2 Having a gifted peer group benefits their social-emotional development. They often don't align with same-age peers
Often make interesting project based, inquiry learning for just gifted, ALL kids need this type of learning
Technical difficulties so no tonight. Bummer!
Great point-why stress the need for SPED children to stay in the class then pull out GT? https://t.co/18O8LvglSb
A2 .. 1 of 2 ... if Ts are differentiating instruction > all Ss needs are met in same classroom https://t.co/ZyIW5rBmt1
(whoops) https://t.co/8g7kkVFHbc
A2: Torn on this one...is "sometimes" a cop-out? I like the idea of itinerant teachers who travel to schools for differentiated instruction.
A2 idk, question is too hards
A2 Tracking gets a bad rep. Measuring Ss progress and helping them activate their potential is what schools should do.
A2: If Ss are in gifted, then they don't need to be tracked. They should be trusted. Just basic flags for certain things.
A2b But I still think those challenges and opportunities should be given to ALL students, not just "gifted"
Yes, and help Ss see the strengths in other Ss as well.
A1 You should see the looks of horror on my Ss faces when they conclude Google, etc. is stalking them. We discuss.
A2 (contd) Read Jeff Olson's "Slight Edge" while ago. pic made me take pause-can we all b gifted? https://t.co/QpjlW0v3s9
A2 I've seen special ed students thrive in a gifted classroom-all deserve access.
Why do you think Google is giving away all of their tools to education "FOR FREE"?
They're tracking Ss and Ts behavior.
Q2: Always thought tracking was odd. Why not reevaluate each year to make sure Ss are in the classes that lead to success?
Excellent question. Twitter as tough platform for defining terms towards framing debate!
being in a gifted room you're observe the Ss have unique aspects of giftedness
However, when Ss who do well on district tests are placed, but can't handle the day-to-day it's a problem.
A2: Am I cheating to say it depends on the school? How progressive is system/culture w differentiation Kids need challenges
Agreed. But the connotative meaning of the word "gifted" is troubling to me. https://t.co/1KD27CMQzk
A2: edu trend is lending itself more towards gifted teaching. But we still need a GT endorsement to be able to teach GT Ss.
A2: I may be off base, but I feel sorry for those kids who are very low, extremely ESL, being grouped with "gifted"
Agree! Teachers can always use the support. https://t.co/MW0wIw0Iqj
A2: I like to think that I differentiate enough on my own. However, I will always take extra help.
I agree .. And education becomes "tracking based on behavior" not academics https://t.co/jYC9hvi48L
A2: We had the issue of every parent wanting their kids in honors, it really hurt the gen ed classes.
A3v1 this can be tricky. No, when that behavior does not affect the school of Ss in the school. It can get tricky ethics
Tracking is illegal, but still happens. Kind of like monopolies.
A2: Tracking has been frowned upon. Differentiation is very helpful.
If only there was a digital equivalent of shredding
That is instruction done right. Inclusive and equitable. Not separation based. https://t.co/otFtVgwGzs
A2 I've seen special ed students thrive in a gifted classroom-all deserve access.
I bet a lot has to do with upbringing, family activities, etc.
A2 Track is the word I don't like.We use to track kids so that they could never get off the track including low Ss & gifted
I had a grouping of Ss once who all came from same gifted elem class. had a camaraderie like I'd never seen!
I would say intelligence is the measure of capacity for learning, but no measure for grit and determination
A2: there were gifted classes 40 yrs ago - I would have thought we'd outgrown this thinking
A2: I see it all the time! Limited English Ss with a child scoring 99%. The teacher has her hands full keeping up!
What is this toilet paper that I see? How is it going, ? I am Leslie in MX back from a run in 95F. https://t.co/6IlzmPVMz1
happens with free and reduced lunch statistics.
Hey John! We are on to Q3 in a moment.
I had a 7 yr. old tell me they were bad at math. Already? Takes a while to change that mindset.
A3v2 you can regulate the behavior but is it good for the school environment and are you seeking it out or how's it decided
not at all, and honestly every school/district will do some of these things right, but rarely all of them
Agreed- some kids need social emotional piece but we are way better at addressing the academic in classroom
This drives me nuts. Must be stopped. My low Ss realized this & presumed they were bad @ math, etc. 4th gr.
Lol ... Doesn't every P believe their child is GAT? I don't want to be on either side of that one https://t.co/RQA081QIWL
Agreed. But the connotative meaning of the word "gifted" is troubling to me. https://t.co/1KD27CMQzk
A2: edu trend is lending itself more towards gifted teaching. But we still need a GT endorsement to be able to teach GT Ss.
A3: When it encroaches into school activities and classrooms! But I think it needs to be handled with parents involved!
I love that. I used to reply they are all gifted.
A2 Helping Ss grow to solve challenges is what good data tracking can do Pigeon holing Ss into unyielding pathways is wrong
All students deserve and need enrichment.
Hey - nice to be able to join you on a chat
A2 I work with 100℅ ELL Ss, some could truly be gifted, but there's no bilingual gifted classes,
A2 I work with 100℅ ELL Ss, some could truly be gifted, but there's no bilingual gifted classes,
That's true as well. Just haven't seen a lot of it in practice. Unfortunately!
A3: Let's educate students how to behave online in school. Can't regulate unless Ss are a danger to themselves or others.
A2: Tracking is a double-edged sword. While it has its benefits, I hate putting kids in a box. https://t.co/hdE87arj7F
Exactly. When I was in school, we were on tracks and every S knew what track they were on. Not good
Differentiation can be tracking under different name, yes?
A3 I'm going with not regulate, which should not be taken to mean 'ignore.'
A2 My problem with separating "gifted" Ss is that teachers sometimes forget the other Ss can do more than worksheets.
A3: Monitor yes, "regulate," maybe not. This implies control in a way we can't possibly maintain.
A3: If parents are involved and both home and school are teaching digital citizenship skills, students can be safe.
Is there a trick to the questions? When I search for Q1 I get a July 18 question!
Oh they definitely know. You can call them red robins or whatever, doesn't matter, they know
A3: Impossible to regulate alone. Parents and teachers must be active to model digital citizenship.
A3) not regulate but monitor and have teachers that emphasize online safety and responsibility
This is what can't happen! Ethically we have to protect these kids https://t.co/GUrxVzpBJz
I agree .. And education becomes "tracking based on behavior" not academics https://t.co/jYC9hvi48L
A2: We had the issue of every parent wanting their kids in honors, it really hurt the gen ed classes.
A3: If students are on school devices then yes Personal devices no
A3: It's a slippery slope...ultimately who is responsible for what a student does? Student? Parents? School?
is using "Question 1, 2, 3, etc" this go around.
A3: This is a tough one. When the shadow of online behavior stretches into the classroom it's hard to ignore.
We had a discussion around resources. Linked geographic -> classroom ->home. They started changing.
A3: No! Teach Digital Literacy at school & at Parent nights & trust they make the right decision. https://t.co/enUyt69pyG
A3: We regulate what students can see on our devices since we are 1:1. Otherwise, only if there is bullying going on.
A3 if not, prob spills over to school, if not school, then who? In meantime Ts and Ss suffer
A3. Address it when it interferes with the learning environment. Make sure parents are aware (many are not).
A2.2 Shouldn't schools work to match students w/programs that uncover & capitalize on their gifts, not giftedness per se?
A3 Schools cannot regulate out-of-school behavior. Why we need Ts & mentors to coach Ss. It really takes a village.
A3 Good luck? If impacts my students, classroom instruction, or environment... YES! YES! YES! https://t.co/DAbqyAYsOX
Involve parents in consequences and discussion
We would if classroom management, project based learning, proper equipment/tech, resources and outside P..
Expectations, expectations, expectations. Model correct usage. https://t.co/3R04ke0k67
Involve parents in consequences and discussion
Not if the differentiation empowers students to make their own Ed choices. Give Ss data & pathways
A3: Yes, If the S is using a school wide program, standards for behavior should set regardless of where they are using it.
A3 If the online action can lead to a foreseeable substantial disruption to the learning environment, yes, absolutely.
A3 Hard to say. Like anything else, I hope that the digital citizenship I teach and model at school will transfer to home
The legal system has already decided schools are responsible for what S's do outside of school with tech.
A4 No regulating out of school activity unless it affects or spills into school
I always told my Ss "prove adults who assume the worst in you wrong."
A2: depends on the grade level- gifted is different based on grade in school- at HS it is different than Elementary
Sadly, AIG ELLs are underidentified. We all know IQ doesn't equal English language proficiency. https://t.co/SufjVfqSF7
A2 I work with 100℅ ELL Ss, some could truly be gifted, but there's no bilingual gifted classes,
Exactly. We need to make sure that we know if Ss are danger to others, but we can't discipline outside of school
A3 Monitoring>Controlling. It is always more auspicious to teach WHY instead of forcing rules. Teach manners for life!
A3 teach appropriate behavior, we can't let the fear of a problem drive us into witch hunts https://t.co/vo2VQKJDCe
. This finger wagging is great. I agree with your ideas, proactive rather than reactive!
I taught gr. 2 enrichment & was shocked to see 8 gr. gifted list. It didn't change.
I concur. Is this opportunity for the ol' "trust, but verify"?
A2 Small classes for all, differentiation, active learning, parent, T, admin involvement and yes, we could drop gifted ed.
Def monitor! Unfortunately some Ps don't. Glad I did! Discovered a child's friend discussing suicide.
A3 (b). Parents need to be educated as well. Sometimes their online conduct raises eyebrows! https://t.co/Z2I71cxxSU
teaching is the other side of that coin. Education/Teaching must go hand in hand with policy.
How many teachers? All the teachers? Some teachers?
to quote , the internet is a huge playground and no one's on recess duty. We need to do better.
A2: Kids deserve best opportunities available no matter what label we put on them.
A3: No harm in monitoring to create resp. digital citizens. Plus, Ss' online presence can become associated w/school.
A4v1 We need to stop letting people's moral qualms dictate education. Parents can opt out but shouldn't restrict all.
If we start tracking in childhood, can we be surprised when we "track" ourselves in adulthood?
high achieving ELLs get into English only classes more frequently than GATE classes, so wrong
Agreed. CCSS can be framework. Ss choose how to demonstrate then share results.
Good point. Can't ignore ... It's the law https://t.co/HGr0Y345KH
The legal system has already decided schools are responsible for what S's do outside of school with tech.
as in test out of bilingual, line it's a prize to leave your native language
Rules are only as good as our ability to enforce them. Do school leaders have jurisdiction over homes?
A3: when it reaches into my classroom - yes.
'Not regulate' is definitely not the same as ignore!
A3 Again it's the word "regulate" I'm hung up on. I think maybe monitor if possible.
A3 Only if it follows them into school. (i.e. becomes an issue in classroom) Parent's responsibility at homeA
A3: If it impacts our school community - Yes. Education is far more important than consequence. .
Digital World is the New Wild West we have to teach all stakeholders how appropriately live https://t.co/sI9sv8WMMp
A3 (b). Parents need to be educated as well. Sometimes their online conduct raises eyebrows! https://t.co/Z2I71cxxSU
But this isn't a S problem. It's a T problem.
A3: If Ss physical or emotional safety is compromised, yes, it needs to be monitored and dealt with.
Nothing useful is really free. I never really thought about it before, but it makes total sense.
A3: Only if it spills over into the school day... we need to be the examples and teach respect and empathy
not hyper vigilant, just aware and savvy of what kids are doing while staring at their screens.
I don't think so. It depends on how you are differentiating.
My wife is always checking my daughter's (10) ipod. I never check it. Both of us are right for different reasons.
And our location data while we catch Charizards
A3 If it impacts the community, yes. If it could impact just that student, I think we also have the responsibility to act.
A3: not sure what monitoring would entail. Feels like or to me. I'd rather focus on teaching
A3: Yes we have to regulate it when it interferes at school or in the classroom.
I wonder who will sit there and monitor the monitors? I guess we don't call them that anymore. Screens.
.. what the school would do to my child is nothing compared to what I would...if he were a bully
This is what we need, not gifted classes, or SPED classes, manageable class sizes https://t.co/3OS032yad3
A2 Small classes for all, differentiation, active learning, parent, T, admin involvement and yes, we could drop gifted ed.
A4v2 Sex Education has been proven effective and should be taught along with all other sceince. Be equal in all things.
A lot of Ss can't keep things that secret anyway ... They love to share - good, bad, & ugly! https://t.co/gQp2fd6RMz
A3 Again it's the word "regulate" I'm hung up on. I think maybe monitor if possible.
My girls are mad my mom didn't have twitter and instagram to "catch" me being bad! TOO BAD, TOO SAD!
not everywhere and those laws are weak
A3 Do we monitor other outside S activity? If so, when, how? Ss need to be able to discuss online problems like any other.
have utilized "Family University Nights" to educate our parents😄👍
It becomes a Ss problem when the other students are relegated to menial tasks or test prep
A3.2 Before jumping to regulation, what if schools communally champion positive vision of off-campus online behavior?
Exactly! Do we have leaders who are willing to do what's right or do what's easy? https://t.co/jZotmon2hG
Rules are only as good as our ability to enforce them. Do school leaders have jurisdiction over homes?
Or even "behave better than the adults around you" - we had no when we were young (and it shows)
They've been a great start to our nights! Hope to expand!
hate that EL 3, 4n and 5 exist. They are often higher than white CP Ss
That's why I said "if possible", difficult situation, it's the parents job but if it's going to affect school
Awesome! https://t.co/teA1VOamJS
My girls are mad my mom didn't have twitter and instagram to "catch" me being bad! TOO BAD, TOO SAD!
Those laws are strong in NJ: toughest anti-bullying law of any state.
Yes, it could. I'm just wondering if people/Ss don't pick up on the diff or use it interchangeably.
it's like the bee watcher watchers in dr Seuss did I ever tell y how lucky you are!
Ooooh, I don't have one of those yet. Caught a Geodude tonight.
Caught one somewhere she should have been! Teens take lots of pictures and post them!! BE WARNED!
heard about the facial recog. on SC coll. in2 a database. Scary, but I love being a puppy!
Yes. fix the T problem. Don't use GT kids to solve the wrong problem. It's not fair to them either.
A4: I think this is where the internet is our ally- not in a "wild west" Google the answer way, but connecting us w/experts
how many teachers to teach digital responsibility? I would say every class this would be relevant in
We have something similar, but I think we need to do more intimate ed at schools.
A4 I'm old school - I want parents to take responsibility.. (& I get the other side - HS Tchr) https://t.co/nIticyQX4i
A4 Have real talk that is age appropriate about the complex SEL and physical health of students related to the sexuality.
I wonder if there is money in the budget for people to do this work, that's what I was pondering.
4th grade reading levels are looked at to determine future need of prison beds
A4: books! So much to learn from reading and discussing great current ya
A4v3 We need sex education so that both men and women know how to care for their bodies and eachother. This is being equal.
A4 I say be honest and direct. Never let any question get you ruffled. It gives it a weird taboo that isn't necessary
I am saying this in my head, GeoDUUUUDE, where's my car? lolz
A4 teach it more fear it less
all Ts need to model citizenship
A4: Very political question in our state and many others.
A4: obvious answer - educate, but you need the right Ts teaching and being realistic with the Ss. https://t.co/cEjcSiR1j4
I agree that I want it but also understand its not happening in many homes, so we've got to
A4 There are special rules for this. All need to learn, but historically it's a touchy subject. Ps, State, Ts, S age, etc.
A4: Tell them directly. Don't try to be sensitive about it. Show them what being irresponsible does. It's up to parents too
You will rarely get all of any group of people to do anything to the same level.
A3: Hard to teach to Ps but I do believe that what we teach Ss isn't falling on deaf ears & kids will bring it home
A4: I think it's time districts meet Ss where they're at via social media campaigns. Sex-Ed in their language (memes, GIFs)
We gotta give them a reason to buy in.
A4. We need to be able to have uncomfortable convos w/Ss. My own kids & I would talk about stuff in the car.
of prefer parent start discussion, but what if they don't
I am in HS also. When Ss come to us lacking academic skills, we teach them. Same w/ teaching sexual health
A4 Firm believer in sex ed in schools starting as young as 6th. Some Ps don't do it, need to help Ss protect themselves
A4: Remind parents that you are teaching "all" kids - not just "their" kids - and than information changes lives
A4 I teach 5th grade and we have a program that comes in every year to talk to our kids. Best program ever!
I think this is / could be a result of our test manic society. We should have moved based this long ago.
A4: Get parents involved when having an honest, age-appropriate conversation with students.
A4: Make students feel comfortable. Good relationships are important in this area of education. Parent involvement too
research I have read stated 2nd grade literacy rates.
We need empower them ... If we keep "feeding the animals, they'll keep expecting to be fed" https://t.co/zhGa3RrRFT
We gotta give them a reason to buy in.
how many Ts know concepts and practice them?
community support from programs like
True! needs 2 be more than "Here's what NOT to do online!"
That's the problem ... Children pay the price for P's mistakes or cowardice https://t.co/fLup6w3EaT
of prefer parent start discussion, but what if they don't
. Sped=deficit thinking, G&T=asset. Better than labeling, provide individual ed based on unique skills of ea Ss.
A3. When it comes to Ss safety, it is vital. Other monitoring is inappropriate unless it slander/libel
A4 (c). Schools need to offer factual information. Biology is in play & it is a huge factor.
A few, some? Definitely not all. Training? One off is ineffective. How to get it done?
A5v1 this question is a bit bothersome. What can be done to make it attractive to everyone feels better? We need everyone
Wanting to make sure you meet a child's needs. Everyone cannot differentiate instruction.Therefore GT programs.
any convo that starts with Don't do this, is a turn off
So if teaching abstinence doesn't work for tech...
Yeah, my boys still tease me about it. But had to approach it directly.
If a S comes to me, I don't avoid .. I don't want to replace parent - have to consider my children https://t.co/Jgxdnzn5Ny
I am in HS also. When Ss come to us lacking academic skills, we teach them. Same w/ teaching sexual health
A4 In my area, there are some religious issues that people are sensitive to. So I say teach facts and let Ps fill in
I'm fostering a child bc the mom didn't know you could get pregnant on birth control. She found out 8 months in.
Good evening all, Daryl from MD, late entry to the convo. Interesting questions tonight!
Right, SpEd should be just a way to get resources needed. Unfortunately, it's stigmatizing & Ss get boxed in.
Is it the Changes program?
Hey Daryl! Welcome back to !
Huzzah, w/understanding that Ss will be at bunch of diff't places. Starting point: Answer Q's that Ss ask?
Agreed https://t.co/2lxzlb7Wr5
A4 In my area, there are some religious issues that people are sensitive to. So I say teach facts and let Ps fill in
abstaining from sex only type of sexed not effective...neither is "tech is bad"
A4 hard to have a conversation about sex topics without adding one's values unless anatomical
Just struck me, if it's a 'worst pratice' for , why is it espoused for sex ed?
A5: Respect and autonomy; not there now.
and I run Twitter chats in our classes regularly. It's amazing how Ss open up. https://t.co/JI0Lys0fON
Huzzah, w/understanding that Ss will be at bunch of diff't places. Starting point: Answer Q's that Ss ask?
A4: By being honest & factual, but also need to be sensitive to parents who want to have the discussion with their kids.
we need more opps for Ts and Ss to connect and collab and learn in context
same fixed mindset drawing lines in sand is a dare not a boundary
Worthy context to establish: Are you talking about this with your parent(s), too?
A5: Reject the notion that teaching is a "those that can't" profession. Treat T's and Ss like rockstars. they are.
A5v2 The best answer is to make teaching respected like other professions and make the pay reflect our value to society.
Here I am waiting for the to start and listening to poke balls rain around the lure in the lobby.
Wow! More respect for or civil servants! Can't make impact if you're battled from every direction https://t.co/SwPjr3XYGG
I don't advocate abstinence
I just want to know for men is it about the lack of pay when other jobs can bring in so much more
A5 Salary, workload, societal support, Teaching should be viewed in the same way as medicine, dentistry, etc. Autonomy too.
. Too often label keeps Ss from opportunities to be challenged & achieve. Ss can have special needs & be gifted.
A5 Hire them? Pay more? Put them in administrative positions as well as the classroom.
A4)Home, Health class, & also responsible dating in counseling groups. I tackle real life issues, perks of HS counseling
That's a brilliant idea. I teach grad students & had never thought of twitter chats
A4: I talked to my son about it first then he got info in health classes
A5 Dispel the stigma that men aren't as "nurturing" or inherently good at teaching as women. Also, competitive pay.
I think communication with parents beforehand has to be intentional and specific
A5: May go back 2 tracking question. If the experience wasn't good in school, then not likely 2 choose it for a career.
we must respect the parents as a part of the learning process. Support learning and not hiding in ignorance.
A5: Forget about "more pay"; in fact, benefits are being stripped away so that is not a realistic answer.
Know your audience. My knee-jerk reaction is, "I wouldn't do this with middle-school students."
A5: allow the system to continue to evolve. Once we move from a traditional, old-school system; we'll stop stereotyping Ts
A5 Being open and inviting authentically not to meet a quota or to fill race compass NOT there now
A5. Find ways to show that you don't have to "sell out" to be an educator. Your beliefs/culture don't have to disappear.
esp kids who don't talk whole class discussion serves sim purpose
A5. As a culture, treat Ts with the professionalism they deserve. Low pay, scrutiny. Really have to love what you do.
A5 Outreach to people who want to make a difference in their community. Make pathways accessible to those in other careers.
Absolutely. They're not exclusive. Testing for both needs to happen. Nevertheless, challenge everyone.
K-5 male teachers down to 7%: it is a problem that is not being addressed.
A5: for men- pay is a big deal- need to feel like they can support a family (married to a teacher) https://t.co/ooGiGwgNhQ
I treat most things like banned books. If banned, it must be worth exploring
According to my male colleagues, that's a huge concern. Who's going to be the "breadwinner"
A5:The culture surrounding education professionals MUST change. Prestige, diversity, and competence should be cornerstones.
A5: I think all positions in educ should be respected by communities and media... that would go a long way.
Invite them! Interviewed Latino educator on our podcast who started because a former teacher asked what he was doing
There already is Teach For American that does that.
A5 POCs I know worked so hard to go thru college, they want/need a better payoff and more respect than teaching offers
Yep, more channels/formats is better. (Though more also likely means more S info being mined!) https://t.co/75GpPYjFZV
esp kids who don't talk whole class discussion serves sim purpose
I was given a set of books. 9th grade Home Ec cleared up misconceptions.
Completely agree! https://t.co/1veW18ZRjT
we must respect the parents as a part of the learning process. Support learning and not hiding in ignorance.
We have to be willing to share our narrative, our truth on why we live to teach! Why we spend our time on Twitter chats
A5 Let Ss of color know how they have impacted your life as a T. Discuss how they can help future gens. Future T clubs?
Funny how my reaction was complete opposite, but I still agree
Will we? Will it evolve? We've been talking change for how long now?
It was my epiphany, it wasn't directed at anyone in particular. haha
A5: Respect and dignity for the profession. We are torn down more times than built up. ...of course, pay is an issue too.
A5 public education the only profession that does not govern itself, fix that and you can increase prestige
I agree. We need to teach in such a way as to inspire this change for the next generation
A5 Make teaching a more respected profession overall
A5) If one struggled to get an education, why would one go into a profession where they're undervalued and underpaid?
A5: Let them know that there are endless opportunities for teaching. You can teach in any topic or hobby you like.
A5 my cousin in law, LOL, said, want to be a vet, or high school bio T, and he's Mexican, I'd like to see him as a vet
But many of them don't stay in the profession after their few years of service
a loaded question. Starting point, I think, would be to teach from your heart, not from a curriculum map
Then, use google chat, kidblog, other tools to keep secure. There should be ways
A5: I never had a Hispanic T until college. My motivation is to help Ss see themselves in those they're learning from.
Though these days it's hard to argue teachers are underpaid when so many young adults with degrees can't find a real job.
Or, you do. With the promise to make sure Ss don't have a repeat experience.
A5: An engaged S may boomerang back to becoming a T. Involvement is key. Many don't because the school culture was closed.
Then they ask how you knew! Silly children!
A5: Regularly remind Ss that the best way to affect change is from the inside out. Ask "what would you do differently?"
A5: what about opportunities to earn more $ by staying in the classroom? Now, there is a ceiling if you don't become admin.
After knee jerk, then brain drifted to, How *might* MS Ss & I frame such a chat?
This requires quite a change. Men in field can be questioned....
A5 I think Future Teachers Clubs are an excellent idea! They do exist in some places. https://t.co/47ufdcpQ88
A5 Let Ss of color know how they have impacted your life as a T. Discuss how they can help future gens. Future T clubs?
A5: When society values educators more than celebrities & athletes careers in Ed will be more attractive
A5: What about the amount of schooling needed... An AA and hard work you can make triple a teacher with triple the degrees
got it, I was like, what did I say
Data says that many leave after their two years are up. It's a short term solution to a long term problem.
This is TRUTH! https://t.co/fmPbbOsgSC
A5 public education the only profession that does not govern itself, fix that and you can increase prestige
Excellent insight, Darion! Be sure to use the hashtag to be included on the chat... https://t.co/6YRZoV1aMr
A5: INCLUSION. Expose them to areas of education. Many think that it's not suited for them. Show them great examples https://t.co/KhQCX3jxgv
A6v1 They do both but it is far more often the later than the former. There will always be bad eggs. Being new is tougher.
tfa offers little support for ts in toughest teaching conditions- often leave profession
Yep. Ts are disrespected and underpaid. They need to be treated better before many will be interested
Yes but when I'm making the same or less than someone who doesn't have a degree, I definitely feel underpaid
Oh, likewise. I never get briefed on whose who. I just teach. But it info can be essential, etc.
Have to crank the time-machine back a long time for that.
need 2 start asking ourselves if our practice can b improved. "always done it this way" = dangerous https://t.co/angVQUtqPg
"There should be ways" may qualify as 1 of most productive, optimistic debate statements ever. https://t.co/Q7bHGYsZwS
Then, use google chat, kidblog, other tools to keep secure. There should be ways
Nothing. I should have tweeted in my head. haha
A5 I want CIL to become vet, would b proud if he became T, even myself, would rather see him get the respect he deserves
Got to TFA website, you will see other data that many stay in education and go on to administration.
A5) We have to start early & draw greater connection btwn edu and social change. Many folks still want to impact the world!
A5 I think for anyone male female any race. Jobs in edu have to be valued. All educators need to be paid their worth.
A6v2 We can't throw the baby out with the bath water. We are professionals and we should govern ourselves accordingly.
Question 5 got me fired up!
I became a teacher because it's my passion but I still need to be able to feed my family.
A great campaign slogan 😂👍
A6: I'd say the latter. "I took this job for the millions!" said no T ever.
We shouldn't need to work 2+ jobs to survive. It interferes with our teaching and Ss suffer.
We're not just "talking" change anymore. Maybe officials are, but the change is happening on the ground with Ts.
What state are you in? Staring pay is $55,000 in my district.
So important. One reason prob have few men + minorities-Ss don't see themselves in our classrooms https://t.co/0n0l2dL43R
A5: I never had a Hispanic T until college. My motivation is to help Ss see themselves in those they're learning from.
Where I get stuck is in a solution. More $ & prestige might only come with privatization, which has its serious drawbacks
A6v3 Strong unions and collective bargining are what gives educators strength to do what needs to be done in the classroom.
A6 Tough question catch-22 ...Protect bad tchrs, but I want protection if needed (& I'm a great T) https://t.co/2QPzijLUHy
I would love to see it, don't in my district
That is true. But the good ones make it on their own.
A6 The second part of the question. I've been in this business long enough to know...
2 -5 years Not including the bright, caring, & other ones who would make great Ts but don't
A6 of a P can't document case against bad T, it's a P problem
in our area Unions are notorious for protecting bad Ts
Definitely not as high here in Florida. Starting around $35,000
Not throwing any1 under bus..but I've heard Ts say, "1 more yr til tenure...then I can x,y,z" (not wear a tie, slack, etc)
https://t.co/b1MuzmNoPg
more control over our profession=no need for tenure + merit pay for excellent teachers leaves bad Ts as low paid
A6. Supporting Ts and holding them accountable is necessary. No matter what system, put Ss first in any decision.
A6. I think Ts deserve due process so that they can improve. If they don't do the work (or endanger Ss), they should go.
A6 (1/2) Job protections are needed, but more,TRUST is needed b/t admin & Ts
.. Of feel-good moments!" (Maybe?) 😜 https://t.co/50F43TqwjD
A6: I'd say the latter. "I took this job for the millions!" said no T ever.
A6 I'm still trying to figure out what to say about Q5. It has me going in many directions = no actual direction.
A6v3 as a union delegate to the I have heard the power of being unionized. It's not just is it's your ESPs too.
A6 I've had experience w/ plenty of bad Ts that have simply decided there is no need to try because of tenure. Frustrating!
A5:Ss need to learn its their responsibility to teach future generations. They need to see themselves.
A6 No, not really. I think it provides stability, etc. Strong union is vital (and I'm not a union person) Always bad apples
Great chat! Look forward to future learning with new follow/backs.
A2 gifted edu should be for all Ss. Bc all Ss are gifted in own way. All Ss need chance to explore knowledge
A6 (b). But what if the person hiring keeps hiring Ts who are unstable or who won't try to improve? See it happen...
A6 Sometimes I feel like those policies encourage complacency...doing just enough to get by...
A6 (2/2) When trust is present, unions will work w/ admin to ensure the best Ts maintain high rigor and best practices
A6:tenure kept some bad Ts in-but no tenure now. No stability for Ts that are constantly moved https://t.co/3D0N2nSLWD
Be the change... Powerful answer, Brendan! https://t.co/HEx2KD8vDu
A5:Ss need to learn its their responsibility to teach future generations. They need to see themselves.
Houses are more expensive up here, so probably evens out.
But after decades of change, knocked down, and other problems, can you blame them? Systemic issues.
A6: Sadly I think it does keep non-passionate in the job
Your comment got me wondering, Tom, if some of baggage related to Q6 sways the dynamic in Q5. No actual answer yet.
A6 What qualifies as a "bad" teacher? Test scores? Anyone can be made to look like a "bad" teacher.
One of few professions with this protection, leads to issues of lower pay, less respect etc, tough to lose ineffective Ts
A6: I've learned to keep the focus on my practice and hope my example & willingness to share will encourage others.
A6: Both; the system has to change to expunge dead wood while protecting those who dare to disagree with administration.
It's hard to grow as a professional w/no stability. If you change grade levels every year, almost impossible!
A5: Change the narrative on what it means to be successful in life and provide role models
Extra Sensory Perception? Cool! Always wanted that
