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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #isedchat I am your host tonight, George from South Bend, IN. Please introduce yourself.

ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Cathy Koos from Melbourne, Florida stopping in for a bit tonight. Thanks @gephillip for hosting #isedchat!

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:02 PM EDT

You’re welcome Cathy. Glad you could stop in for a bit. #isedchat

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ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT

How are things with you? Are you still in school? #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Shari from Orlando. Hi! #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Things are well. Today was our last day. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Welcome Shari! #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Please share your favorite part of the end of the school year? #isedchat

ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Hi, Shari! How are things in your neck of the woods? #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:04 PM EDT

We will begin with Q1 in a moment. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Are you still in school? #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Slow this week now that students are done. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT

lots of end of year meetings? #isedchat

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laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@gephillip #isedchat Laura from Toronto, on mat leave and putting a baby to sleep, so mostly watching!

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ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:06 PM EDT

My favorite part is all of the celebrations of the children's accomplishments. Rewarding to think about how far they've come. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Welcome Laura. I remember those days fondly. #isedchat

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ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:07 PM EDT

We've been out for two weeks. Summer camp starts on Monday so we are busy as ever. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:07 PM EDT

We will discuss some of the research by John Hattie’s on the concept of Visible thinking & what makes an impact on Ss learning. #isedchat

swladis Jun 1 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Some but I am not returning to my school next year, taking some time off, consulting a bit. So not too many meetings. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:08 PM EDT

That sounds like a great adventure. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Q1: Do you think classroom size has a positive or negative impact on Ss success? #isedchat

swladis Jun 1 @ 9:08 PM EDT

We will see! #isedchat

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ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1: I think classes can definitely be too big. So important to have a relationship between teacher and student. #isedchat

swladis Jun 1 @ 9:10 PM EDT

I used to think small is always better and I still think small is helpful but teachers make a huge impact. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Q1: Do you think classroom size has a positive or negative impact on Ss success? #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Relationships are important, but how does the teacher use that class time is as important. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Yes we do, but how is the teacher utilizing that small class size? #isedchat

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nathan_stevens Jun 1 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1 I can be both. Larger classes can have multiple groups set up and negative because less teacher to student interaction #isedchat

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ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Great point, Shari. I'd rather my child be in big class with a highly effective teacher than a small class with a subpar teacher. #isedchat

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laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT

#isedchat Regular, detailed documentation that leads teaching is made easier with smaller class sizes (or team teaching, or both!)

ckoos1 - Moderator Jun 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT

I agree 100%. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT

But what makes a teacher effective? #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Agreed, student to teacher interaction is key. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Or is it how the student uses it? #PBL #StuVoice #isedchat https://t.co/9q9bwO7Yrt

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Relationships are important, but how does the teacher use that class time is as important. #isedchat
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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:14 PM EDT

getting out of the way when a Ss is ready #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:14 PM EDT

very astute observation! #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Always assessing students for progress and adjusting lessons, for one thing. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT

But what makes a teacher effective? #isedchat
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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Classroom size absolutely has an inks t - our classes are mostly all co or tri-taught with sizes of less than 20 Ss #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1: According to Hattie, teachers with smaller class sizes will lecture more to make up for the lost time of Q of larger group. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Classroom size absolutely matters - our classes are co-tri taught w no more than 20 Ss allows for pLearning #isedchat

swladis Jun 1 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Interesting. This book is on my summer list & now more interested to read. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1: According to Hattie, teachers with smaller class sizes will lecture more to make up for the lost time of Q of larger group. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:17 PM EDT

So is it the size of the class or how the teacher instructs that makes the larger impact? #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:17 PM EDT

in many schools - not all. If structure shift/values change this isn't the case #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Our Ts don't "teach" they facilitate learning thru interest... that's only possible w small sizes. #isedchat https://t.co/KuJiv1Edja

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:17 PM EDT

So is it the size of the class or how the teacher instructs that makes the larger impact? #isedchat
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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Correct, but in many schools, small classes are still taught using lectures #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:19 PM EDT

that's unfortunate and need to change or we are doing Ss a disservice #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Yes that is. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:20 PM EDT

lecturing has the least impact on student learning #isedchat

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laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:20 PM EDT

& the way our classroom functions, ideally: teacher as facilitator, not lecturer; student as leader in own learning. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:21 PM EDT

amen brother! #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Q2: Do you think maximizing feedback to Ts about their impact has a positive or negative impact on Ss success? #isedchat

laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Wonder also how this might apply w/in a small, flipped classroom scenario! #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:22 PM EDT

As a #flipped teacher, I am wondering that now. I never liked giving the video first. Always needed investment first. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I prefer blended learning to asynchronous online learning #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Sometimes nice for Ss to see the videos and the discussion can start when the class starts. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Used flipped learning as part of lab rotation model in blocked longer courses has proven successful esp to remediate/accel #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A2: According to Hattie, once a teacher sees their impact on student success, they have able to have a more positive change. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:25 PM EDT

positive for sure - if it's negative response they need not be offered a contract next year #isedchat

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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:25 PM EDT

#isedchat

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krissyvenosdale Jun 1 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A1) building community in the classroom matters even more than class size; community is essential #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:26 PM EDT

we have three in 70 mins (T-S/S-S and S-tech) #isedchat

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laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Can #flipped be more student-driven/autonomous? Within a unit, yes, but within a lesson? Choose your own adventure? #isedchat

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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Stop all the noise. Empower learners. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:26 PM EDT

I agree. Feedback is one of the most powerful tools we have for learning. And teachers need to recognize that and make changes #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:27 PM EDT

exactly. A community of learners is the powerful. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:27 PM EDT

yes - where playlists allow Ss to move at own pace. Different goals for different Ss based on ability #isedchat

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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Yes or implosion. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Welcome to the chat Krispy. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Welcome to the chat Ericka. #isedchat

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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:29 PM EDT

#isedchat Hello, I'm Ericka from Missouri. #blendedlearning #edtech

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A2: We as teachers need to be even more reflective of our practices and work. We need to see what works and what doesn’t. #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Hello #isedchat. Lemarr Treadwell, Fresno CA

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Welcome Lemarr! #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Alright, here is Q3: Do you think ability grouping has a positive or negative impact on Ss success? #isedchat

3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Ask our students. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:32 PM EDT

spot on. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Not a fan of ability grouping as only approach - peer mentoring is powerful and we get into equity issues yet for 1/2 #isedchat

swladis Jun 1 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3: I think that a blanket statement is hard to say. I have seen it have both. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:33 PM EDT

2/2 pathways that may be diverse in 10th/11th I see benefits #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:33 PM EDT

I am not either. Yet our math program is set this way in 7th and 8th. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:34 PM EDT

I'm not a fan of tracking at that age - I know Ps can drive program though in IndySchools #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3. After 20 years of teaching in poverty schools, I have never experienced any success with ability grouping. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:35 PM EDT

The issue with ability grouping is that you pigeon hole Ss based on past ability, not current or future growth. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:35 PM EDT

If you look at a lrge school district near me-which has majority AA Ss and then look at honors/APs it's mostly white Ss - not OK! #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:36 PM EDT

agree 💯#isedchat

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laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:36 PM EDT

I would rather group students by specific need than any notion of general ability, if the situation warranted it. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:36 PM EDT

agreed. #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Not if the culture is to have flexible groupings and truly assess for progress often and with an open mind as new topics start. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:37 PM EDT

I would say maybe group by interests instead of need. This way, you are not limiting mobility. #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Is this ability grouping? #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:38 PM EDT

yes or how about by interest as they enter into HS and post-secondary. Why do all Ss need physics? #isedchat

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laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:38 PM EDT

I don't believe general "streaming" benefits, merely limits. (e.g. research out of Toronto on this: https://t.co/lyHCUL8gXR) #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Yes, if you have a flexible culture. But how many schools, private, public, or Indy are this flexible? #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:38 PM EDT

No. #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:39 PM EDT

What Laura just shared, totally makes sense. #isedchat

laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:36 PM EDT

I would rather group students by specific need than any notion of general ability, if the situation warranted it. #isedchat
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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:39 PM EDT

that's torture and frustration - why our Ss check out and we're perpetuating the factory model w that ❌⛔️🚫‼️ #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:39 PM EDT

That may be the biggest get question. Are we doing the best for students? #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Yes, if you have a flexible culture. But how many schools, private, public, or Indy are this flexible? #isedchat
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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A3: PALS high/low, little teachers help with differentiation. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:40 PM EDT

but as the pundits say, more testing fixes all the ed aliments! FALSE!!!! #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:40 PM EDT

agree - even in a progressive school it's hard to manage and needs reminder of values daily of all adults #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Lisa just shared tracking is "torture and frustration." I totally agree. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:39 PM EDT

that's torture and frustration - why our Ss check out and we're perpetuating the factory model w that ❌⛔️🚫‼️ #isedchat
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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:41 PM EDT

@gephillip it's unfortunately not always about what's best for Ss is it? #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Unfortunately not. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I see where you are going. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Nope, it’s not. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Alright, Q4: Do you think assessment as feedback is how well I taught a unit or not so well? #isedchat

LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:43 PM EDT

How do I group (track) today's classroom. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:45 PM EDT

I think with that, you really need to have teachers look at themselves. They need to know their impact. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:45 PM EDT

yep! We're the only private/Indy school locally that wants to take Ss that fit those and it requires pLearn #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Good question. No easy answers. #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4. Feedback, according to Hattie's research 2012, is one of the biggest influences on Ss learning. Multimodal for SS, #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4: It’s a mindset. The old way = Ss didn’t listen. New way = I didn’t reach them. How can I? #isedchat

laurasfashteach Jun 1 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4: Initially more interested in how the students felt they did, where/how they were supported or not. #isedchat

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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:46 PM EDT

yes & As needs to support-culture must be healthy. Working on this in our school daily #isedchat #growthmindset

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Yes it is! Feedback has the biggest influence on learning for teachers and students. #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:47 PM EDT

What Lisa said, Boom Shakalaka! #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:46 PM EDT

yes & As needs to support-culture must be healthy. Working on this in our school daily #isedchat #growthmindset
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Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@gephillip without it our Ts are spinning wheels and it can lead to disengagement and hopelessness #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:49 PM EDT

That is great! And you need to also reflect on what impact you can have on that student to help them succeed. #isedchat

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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:49 PM EDT

New charter school concept. Old school replay. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Exactly. Teaching is no longer a confined profession. #isedchat

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swladis Jun 1 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Need to sign off. Thanks for ideas to think about tonight! #isedchat

LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I think educators attention needs to move from "how Ts teach" to "how Ss learn." #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

According to Hattie, Charter Schools have no impact on student success. It’s all about feedback and reflection. #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Yes, the more we focus on metacognition, the better off they will be. #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

George is right on. Also this is efficient and effective teaching at its best. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

According to Hattie, Charter Schools have no impact on student success. It’s all about feedback and reflection. #isedchat
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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Thanks of stoping in! #isedchat

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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Alright, last question: Q5: Do you think Ts, working together, as evaluators has a positive or negative impact on Ss success? #isedchat

3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:53 PM EDT

I do my best and be my best for Ss success. #resilence #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Where do your Ss get stuck the most? What tools do you use to help them? My Ss get stuck at stage 2& 3 #isedchat

LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I think educators attention needs to move from "how Ts teach" to "how Ss learn." #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:54 PM EDT

That is great! #isedchat

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LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Great for you guys. My district still uses "viable curriculum." #isedchat

wpmsAD Jun 1 @ 9:52 PM EDT

We just spent a day talking about this at #NISLcohort2
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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Mine get stuck in 1 and 2. They are 5th and 6th graders and don’t have the confidence when they get to me. #isedchat

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3TrailsMabion Jun 1 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Asking questions to move through levels. #isedchat

LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I think educators attention needs to move from "how Ts teach" to "how Ss learn." #isedchat

LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Yup! Especially when they are so far behind. Ts get stuck there a lot too, admitting the relevance to the learning. #isedchat

gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Mine get stuck in 1 and 2. They are 5th and 6th graders and don’t have the confidence when they get to me. #isedchat
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gephillip Jun 1 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A5: The more we partner with our peers and reflect on what we are doing, the better the impact on student learning will be. #isedchat

LemarrTreadwell Jun 1 @ 9:58 PM EDT

I have 4th graders and they get stuck at stage 2/3. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jun 1 @ 9:59 PM EDT

thanks for a great chat all! #isedchat

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