#caedchat Archive
#caedchat is for California educators, by California educators. All are welcome as moderators and participants discuss issues that emerge in California education, which are generally applicable to other regions of the United States.
Sunday February 21, 2016
Hey It’s Kathy fr CJUHSD in SoCal. I teach 9th grade Ss in the content area of Biology. Almost ready to present at
Mark Loundy Instructional technology specialist and K-5 maker space chief in Silicon Valley
Nicol in SoCal - interested in the topic tonight.
Happy Sunday! Amanda, math/tech TOSA in Campbell
Hi Scott Petri, HS World History T from LA. Dig citizenship very important to HSers looking for that 1st job.
Rick leaning in from San Francisco tonight. Love for perspectives and connections. 25 years in K12. Now consultant; at-risk kids
Paula Torres I will be co-moderating with tonight and look forward to everyone's ideas!
Hi ! I am an Ed Tech TOSA in San Marcos, CA.
Joe Rodriguez in Los Angeles working with 1:1 iPad elementary schools.
and so are we! Thanks for joining us Nicole; we look forward to your perspective.
Ryan, from the Arlington Middle School in . checking in to
Indeed, Scott, and also important as they go through K-8. Thanks for joining us.
Michael from Los Angeles.
Tom from SLO county. HS social studies, .2 tech TOSA, and Alt Ed at night.
Hello I'm ready to give you all my address, phone number, birthday and SS#. Lets talk Digital Citizenship.
Thanks for joining us, Ryan! We promise engaging questions and warm weather ;)
Hi instructional designer
just add them in the resource page Jen!!
all I need are your CC numbers and security codes. TIA, Jen. ;)
Chris from SoCal. APUSH and AVID teacher.
Darn, It's view only. But thanks for including my post about plagiarism.
I promise to stay up as long as I can; need to readjust now that vaca is over
did that for your protection!!
HERE WE GO!
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Q1: How has your district tackled teaching digital citizenship?
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Geri from a high school on central coast
I'll be ready to retweet . https://t.co/b9ivIqaXx7
Hello I'm ready to give you all my address, phone number, birthday and SS#. Lets talk Digital Citizenship.
Hi This is Sonal, instructional coach from the Inland Empire. Happy to be talking about a topic close to my heart today!
A1: My district uses the e-rate digital citizenship curriculum from Common Sense Media for K-5. Ss and Ts enjoy the lessons.
Hi Got that awards acceptance speech polished up yet? Looking forward to seeing you at CCSS16
You forgot place of employment.
Hi ! Shannon, HS humanities fro Oakland here!
Sadly, not at all. At least not a scaled beyond individual who might discuss it.
A1- We have been discussing at dist tech meetings & some T’s & content areas but it’s not widespread as it should be
Oh, you can find that if you Google me.
A1 Hit and miss. It's at the school level with no requirement (yet) to teach it.
A1: As part of our infamous 1:1initiative in L.A. :( Digital Citizenship is a requirement in TechPlan.
A1: I can talk about our school. We have multiple platforms including our "Gator Campus" on FB https://t.co/rVlYIRCugU
Acceptance speech? After my defense on Tuesday I'll come up with something. After I plan my 2 sessions.
A1 I'm hoping 2learn from you all tonight. We have very scattered dig citizenship instruction, based only on who wants 2 teach it
A1: Teachers get some digital citizenship PD and we get told to give students a lesson, but there is no accountability.
A1: Part 2; I had a chance to showcase lessons in the Fall for Digital Citizenship week.
We are waffling. We tried something that left the Ts out last year. We are working to come up with something more robust
Do you know if they are implementing district-wide PD on it? Or simply placing resources into Ts' hands?
A1. Working with my Ed tech partner on developing a dig cit curriculum through use of commonsense media materials.
A1:Team made site &resources for our Ts Site tech coaches share w/Ts As dist coach I reteach evry classrm lesson
I'm intrigued. To how many students? And how was it received?
Heck no. We were told every student needs a digital citizenship lesson every year before they use the internet.
I need our grown-ups (admin) to recognize that we need a plan. Hoping to develop one now in tech role.
Thank you for this resource. We have nothing like it, to my knowledge.
This past school year I used Digital Citizenship course. My students loved it
A1: You can't inoculate students with one or two lessons. (Thanks ) DC needs to be everywhere.
Hi joining a bit late Leila from Escondido District Administrator
Well received in my elementary schools. I have three schools about 100 teachers with 2400 students
Apparent consensus of Q1: "We're all in this together, and not in a place we want to be." And that's OK... for now.
. I am Certified and it's been a great experience with materials to share with parents and in Spanish too.
A1: we have a course for Ss called, "The Connected Clinician" need more in
A1: we have brought speakers like to speak with Ts, Ss, and Ps. Must be a conversation w/ all parties to be sustainable
A1cont: We utilize resources, &
Oh, the other one went to the same page! Double thanks!
This is awesome, . Can you share more about the course? A link w/ details? https://t.co/5S6K8zHBy5
A1: we have a course for Ss called, "The Connected Clinician" need more in
Very cool! I had my Spanish speaking parents sign up for Common Sense Latino
I have no problem teaching it, but do want to develop a plan with sequence and agreement among colleagues to all pick up a piece.
Hey 🤓 I'm Ashley. I teach 9th and 11th grade English. I'm behind and lurking on the convo. 👀
A1: is great but don't forget to personalize it. You know your Ss.
FRIETZE! Get in here and answer some questions. Right meow!
Go for it! It is in my Spring 2016 todo list.
True story for anything we do. There are good resources, but they mean very little without your touch. https://t.co/pYX0dHP2cf
A1: is great but don't forget to personalize it. You know your Ss.
Don't let cyberbully you. Lurk all you want and join in when you are ready
I love that you are here!!!! Welcome to this fits in to part of our after TFI conversation yesterday!
I am interested in what good digital citizenship actually IS...what do people think?
A2: Don’t give Ss passwords or let them enter grades. Share professional uses of tech. Cite sources accurately.
A2 I try to model and discuss reasons why I make the choices I do (what to post, why, why not), it all has to be visible.
A2 Many of my Ss follow my Twitter for a week or two, when they find out I'm a good , they unfollow
A2) I walk students through a job interview story that is blown by thoughtless DC. Think ahead with positive digital footprint.
I think we're in similar situation We provide materials & training but not sure from room to room who teaches what
A2: I use a good digital citizenship habit with the lesson I co-teach in my schools. Especially around using images off the web.
A2: Meet the Ss where they are. Trust that they can engage in an appropriate way. Leverage this. https://t.co/NhjGNGzZaj
A2: My Ss know about my social media presence. I try to share stories of the positive connections and experience with them.
A2 then, I Google myself in front of them and discuss that the new resume is a Google search page. (high school students)
A2: authentic experiences for Ss is the best way. We started in safe spaces like and branched out to Twitter.
A2: Using your digital voice to do more than just remind Ss about homework & tests. It's easy to communicate appropriately
also so that there is a place to build on after the experiences of your classroom.
haha- always been a fan of sharing so i'll certainly do that.Having a few teachers test it soon!
I need to learn more about images myself so I can model it for my students
That is an awesome resource. Thank you so much!
+1 for authenticity.
https://t.co/ZRUObuKuyc
A2: authentic experiences for Ss is the best way. We started in safe spaces like and branched out to Twitter.
A2:We need to engage in "think alouds" with kids as we engage with tech. Where we communicate our decisions why we are or are not
Cool. What did you do on twitter?
A2: The teacher think-aloud is very powerful modeling technique. "Do I really have to cite my source?"
O my! Didn't even think of this. I'm always dismayed when I find tchrs have given pw to students https://t.co/kR8TO4B6Fq
A2: Don’t give Ss passwords or let them enter grades. Share professional uses of tech. Cite sources accurately.
I use as my main resource for Creative Commons images in presentations and research with students
A2: what will Ss see if they Google you? Only 5% thought a digital presence mattered, after our first class 100% agreed 👌
A2: I share real situations with my students so we can discuss to they react and interpret different things. I save examples now!
I like how it embeds the Creative Commons with the image.
Can you say more about that? Sorry to bombard you with questions..
A2: Remember, your students see your Digital Footprint. Sure, be you, but know that you are indirectly influencing them.
A2 Digital citizenship isn't just about being nice & not making mistakes, it's @ using the power of online to change & challenge
Mine got excited about finding me on Twitter (not a secret, its in my classwebpage), then disappointed too https://t.co/MqgDWNYh2g
A2 Many of my Ss follow my Twitter for a week or two, when they find out I'm a good , they unfollow
A2: Also, the culture you create in your class is SO imperative to establish first.
A2-Its become a part of evrythng we do-like Character Ed-Integrated w purpose for the lesson at hand so the apply can hppn now
Once again brings the brilliance. Nice to see you my friend. https://t.co/wToNYBZE2s
A2 Digital citizenship isn't just about being nice & not making mistakes, it's @ using the power of online to change & challenge
+1 for transformative influence. https://t.co/Ne69fbr0lH
A2 Digital citizenship isn't just about being nice & not making mistakes, it's @ using the power of online to change & challenge
Same here. I have two handles. They didn’t like this one. My blog only impressed a few. Yes, I write too.
Yeah, I love doing this.And really playing up all the inner thoughts that the ss should be thinking.
Images provide excellent, real time opportunities to teach about licencing of images and artists
Cool...so they have a footprint that is positive, will serve them... Thank you!
A2- We should think of digital citizenship as an ongoing conversation throughout the yr & a behavior that HAS to be taught!
+1 for removing walls.
Say more. In what ways does SM help break down walls? https://t.co/68oNQ7rzQR
I use Soc Med during class. I model good practice. It also breaks down the wall between Teacher vs Human.
A2 Tell Ss 9th grade is the time when you change your email from hotsk8rkid69 to jon.smith@ Start acting profs
In all my MS classes we talk about your smallest digital footprint having a hold on you, it will follow you in both pos & neg ways
A2: I once got my advisory students into a 15 minute debate about wether or not I should get a twitter account.
I agree, Sonal. Especially with kids. They need constant reminders. Repercussions are not immediate, but very long term
Thank you for bearing with me on this! I really appreciate it!
I teach 6/7, first time students get independence. Modeling is about more than etiquette, it's about REALITY. 1/2
A2:My elem Ss liked chatting w/me & ea other on &our blog I posted w/them to model positive
A2 I do like to show ss my digital footprint They get bummed out when I tell them they can follow my teacher acct but not personal
IRL I am more than a T. I am a human: curious, needs, hopes. I get to model adulthood not just content acquisition.
is there a link to the 9 Ps? That's a lot of Ps to remember
A3 No single person. Classroom teachers, elective teachers, tech and library educators all need to take a hand.
A3: It takes a village! All Ts, support staff, and librarians, should be reinforcing the same messages and holding Ss accountable.
A3 Just like all Ts must teach writing under Common Core, all Ts need to be teaching good Dig Cit.
I was thing the same thing.
*rushes to the Google to teach myself what the 9 p's are*
When we develop a strong positive presence online there is more room for mistakes bc mistakes do happen https://t.co/DtE0p3Zrgn
I think it needs to be a community effort! Parents, teachers, kids, peers; helping students navigate their world is a group effort
A3: everyone! If it's not in schools then parents, if not in those places police depts do a great job of holding community events
A3: I think parents should be responsible for teaching their kids these type of basics, but most of them are in the dark.
A3- We are all responsible in each content area- it’s complicated- so they should be able to practice it in each setting.
by one of my favorite podcasters!
For some S's, I am the first adult they meet that gives them autonomy voice choice. They have great BS Radar: I better live it!
A3: best convo I ever heard was a panel led by Ss. Peer to peer edu can be powerful. Share the good & learn from the bad
I feel a blog post coming on :D
A3: Who's responsible for teaching teachers about digital citizenship? Many of us are still learning ourselves.
A3: that's not to say that we shouldn't step up to guide the way, however. I think some Ss respond better to Ts than parents.
A3: Everyone should take responsibility for : Ts in lessons, Ss in presentations, admins in parent communicatn
A2 My twitter account is professional and personal. Cool things happen when you cross the streams https://t.co/iEvze0B5VD
A3: The Buck “starts” here :) I’ll start the conversation on Digital Citizen as a teacher but it is a bigger responsibility
A3: Anyone who uses tech in the classroom. Ts, Librarians, TOSAS. The more they get it the better.
A3: My dept supports MS 6th grade D.C. electives. Still can't get them to appreciate a good Pa55w0r!) https://t.co/3d0jcq9tBH
My students were shocked I was on Instagram. "I've never met an adult who had an Instagram." They need role models.
True, although I feel some like to pass the responsibility to others.
I see these as a piece to your dig.lesson design-it is embedded,deliberate, not taught in isolation but w purpose for task at hand
Sorry but those 9 Ps remind me of the old DARE poster. Good to know, but you have to do deeper w/ HS kids https://t.co/hgHgXxp1tG
A3: We need to begin the DC journey with the end in mind; 9 P's provide the framework. Full team effort required.
Daughter's school took a wknd FT. Instagram was only contact we had w/our 5th grader. Long 3 days
A3 Like the book (song? saying? meme?) says- It take a village. Those kids need to get to from teachers, parents, peers, drive-th
Still 1 of my fav all time activities in class was having students Google me, themselves...& their parents https://t.co/9ESGvRrUcG
A2: what will Ss see if they Google you? Only 5% thought a digital presence mattered, after our first class 100% agreed 👌
emphasize the word "some." 😂
are lessons free? Just wondering.
Thanks for the link and poster Barbara
Yeah...something about the warning-ness of it all is offputting to me. It's THEIR world, in many ways.
Ps are in the dark b/c it is a “new”medium for them. Facebook and Myspace just started when the parents were teens
A3: Does anyone else use sites like https://t.co/HhLNSYdP2t (Rumor has it) for fact checking with students? Beware urban myths
A? I google myself all the time. If they YouTube me they'll find a guy who does butt workout videos.
A3: Both educators and parents should work together to ensure students are aware of and follow the 9 P's
A4: I've had the chance to deal with cease and desist letters after teachers posted copyrighted content on the school site.
It is worth the investment at least in my account as I visit classrooms.
I'm bugging out early. 5 a.m. call.
Try "John Stevens". I'm a hockey coach, an American Ido contestant, a train engineer, and others. Meh.
I must need to find the 9Ps. I did not do my homework and can't participate
Try "John Stevens". I'm a hockey coach, an American Idol contestant, a train engineer, and others. Meh.
I'll never forget a kid saying "that's not how we use Twitter Mr. Theriault."
Exactly. I remember my mom making me show her my myspace to make sure I wasn't posting anything too personal.
A4- A S not realizing that a picture on a phone could be a issue Is one of the worst problems that happened in our dist.
...permit me perhaps an unpopular thought: it seems that we are not the ones to define what good DC is, esp in HS...
Making kids fear being online and making mistakes will just push them to places like Snapchat and YikYak then what?
A4: I’ve had students “hack” other accounts when we have tried universal passwords. Pretend to be someone else
My kids just scratch their heads and ask what I tweet about? "You have how many followers? Who are they?"
Ive gone from being overprotective and wanting students to have no presence online, to where I am now w building positive presence
...this might be THE best oppty for constructivism: this is a world you and your peers are creating. How should it be?
A4) Cyberbullying and off-task behavior to name a few of the daily struggles that our T's&S's endure.
I think appeal shows that Ss are nervous about what they put out there, but avoiding things doesn't help us learn
But I have learned (the hard way) to be careful about search terms when searching in front of students
A4: Ss not realizing that even if they delete a tweet or pic, the damage has already been done and it can be irrevocable.
I did same w/ daughter - now 28. Our Ss parents are older than you. In their 20's when MySpace was popular https://t.co/1kct3lnZII
Exactly. I remember my mom making me show her my myspace to make sure I wasn't posting anything too personal.
A4: We have a lot of cyber-bullying at the Jr. High School level. A lot of it happens off campus.
Truth! The fear will lead to a more anonymous and destructive experience.
A4: Making mistakes and addressing them appropriately is what digital citizenship is all about.
A4 Passwords get passed around. And I've got a few kids at my school doing the fake Instagram acct thing. Not cool.
A spice girl comes up when I get Googled. It could be worse. Or jackets. Wholesale coats!
Thanks for this ; hit the past bedtime wall. Proper digital citizenship is a paramount 21st skill set for our Ss.
nothing wrong with it's pretty amazing, but agree they shouldn't opt for those out of fear
A4 I get to consult for the admin team when SM gets used inappropriately.
This leads pretty well into Q5
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Q5: What is a strategy to teach keeping Personal Info confidential?
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sad how common the fake accounts are
You're the coolest teacher
. we had a kid making fake teacher accounts... Never got to see his handiwork myself
Mine too. https://t.co/Fv4FCBIRwu
My kids just scratch their heads and ask what I tweet about? "You have how many followers? Who are they?"
A4: Ive had so many kids tell me their profiles were hacked b/c they shared their info with a "friend"
These are girls doing it to each other. Next gen gossip
What says: How to use one's brain is foundational. Helps Ss develop a Gestalt of Ps
A5: At the elementary level it is about having personal learning spaces on the web that require username and passwords
A4: We have had Ss highjack each others accounts because passwords were not kept private It's tough to find the culprit!
. I don't think I was one of his victims. I try to keep all my account names the same
A5 *clears throat* STOP SHARING PERSONAL INFO!
Or have them google someone.
My students LIVE on snapchat. I'd love to experiment w/ it, but not many adults on it & not a T & S tool
A5: I override the filter and invite a student to sign in to FB. Then we look at how much is NOT private.
agreed, which made me think does someone have to be an active user to teach effective use?
A5: I like what mentioned earlier, modeling what your digital footprint looks like in the common world.
We could start the Teacher Snapchat Experiment.
A5: Model it! Show how you can still participate in social sites w/o giving away personal info. Practice rephrasing with them!
A5: Help Ss visualize potential consequences. Don't lecture, but illustrate; show, not tell. https://t.co/QxvvFHSb2z
I have photo bombed a few snapchat selfies :)
The next time someone asks "Are You A God?" you say YES.
I teach K5 &this happens lots Ss complain someone changed their avatar, etc Good intro to bigger issues https://t.co/0CMlMlsrey
A4: Ive had so many kids tell me their profiles were hacked b/c they shared their info with a "friend"
A5: privacy doesn't exist my wedding was featured online and a meme maker did this on another site :( https://t.co/ng2ahH16jX
anytime, just let me know. I'd love to see it from the inside. I'm on but have two "friends"
A5: The best strategy when teaching elementary ed would be to familiarize students with username and password confidentiality.
"Alright, who brought the dog? "
A5 Some of my students started a 'fan' twitter account about me. Watching them work out how to use it has been fun.
A6: I show them the website that I use for HW/Projects which allows me to turn their digital work in and tell me if they copied.
A5 - The rubric needs cleaning up, but this something I worked on to go along with CMS lesson plans: https://t.co/mp8te0tKee
WHOA. That is so scary. What a powerful message to (unfortunately) share with your students.
I just saw that one of my colleagues just started a snapchat to use with students.
Every HS should have a Snapchat so they can create their own geotags and stories https://t.co/qWIPmjVEiT
I've tried signing up twice but am feeling my age. Ss are obsessed with it.
Just...wow! Such a beautiful photo though!
I think it would be amazing to see what's happening in classes
realized last week that out loud narration is amazing reflection tool for later
I like Twitter, email etc.. because those exchanges are logged, Snapchat w/ students worries me
Just wow! It’s a beautiful picture. but… the issue is disturbing
Ah! THIS one I've thought about. For writing, give really cool, original assignments.
A6: . is an awesome citation machine. My librarian just did mini lesson with all of my Ss. Add the easybib chrome ext!
A3: Teachers and Tech Coaches should take responsibility for teaching the 9P's!
. agreed. I'd try w other teachers I knew were playing the same as me to learn & grow
A6 Plagiarism isn't a new problem though. It's easier to catch now than it used to be, isn't it? There are websites?
A6: I think we have to give our student more choice. Old school assignments and research don’t work
A6:There will always be cheaters, so make sure to do something immediately when it happens. It's not fair to those who do try.
. I shared with any eng teacher that accepted my offer to teach mla formatting to their students.
I wish my school would subscribe for their Revision Assistant product. Students need immed fdbck
A6 I use but I discuss plagiarism before I assign work at the beginning of the year. Ss do not always believe
the story feature won me over, especially how they feature people around the world
A6. If my kids can find an essay online like the one I've assigned, I've assigned a boring essay.
A6. If my kids can find an essay online like the one I've assigned, I've assigned a boring essay.
A6: And as discussed this weekend, don't give out so many assignments that invite the opportunity to cheat! Individuality is key.
Indeed. Agree one hundred percent.
A6: Probably the most overlooked form of plagiarism (from Ss *and* Ts) is images. If you didn't take it, it isn't yours.
A6 Others have said, but we assign stuff that can't be ripped off. Write a better assignment.
Agree. The issue is genuine. Boundaries and hopes for privacy do seem to be disappearing.
Boy-oh-boy Followup on the post TFI conversation yesterday, too.
Im liking DraftBack https://t.co/3xERZqzJc6 Look at patterns in Ss writing, get to the root of their issues rather than punish 1st
A6: Probably the most overlooked form of plagiarism (from Ss *and* Ts) is images. If you didn't take it, it isn't CC, don't use it
A6: GAFE tools for authenticating student work. I love revision history and highlighting text to check for copy and paste jobs.
A6: more choice perhaps & culture that celebrates failure. To what extent is culture created by adults responsible for plagiarism?
Yeah, talk about coming around full circle. Good stuff!
Pretty sneaky.. I like that
I always forget about this. I'm guilty of this ALL of the time.
A6 Here's a wild systemic solution: decrease teacher loads so teachers know students' writing inside and out. Solves lotsa probs!
A6: Writers' workshops in class vital. If left on their own they will "borrow." IF not from web, each other.
A2. My Twitter account is personal and priv. Ss need to see role models at home, too. Need to see good fam life.
Amen. If you say "add a dinosaur metaphor" to every paragraph it's going to be hard to find on Wikipedia
Look at Kane's twitter feed?
A6- Too right! The Framing of the assignment and the way the questions are written can make the difference https://t.co/P17EIqWbgb
A6: And as discussed this weekend, don't give out so many assignments that invite the opportunity to cheat! Individuality is key.
I learned that one from the plagiarism webinar presented by .
Maybe the legislature will listen to THAT rationale -- they haven't listened to any others!
A7: Our Digital Footprint is like the footprints on the moon! They will be there longer than us.
Q7: need to go beyond just what it means for us personally but talk more about what it means for us as a society
True...but at the same time, if a student sends something inappropriate, you can just screenshot it
A3. Personally, I believe parents or guardians need to take the lead, as it is with most education. Need to fill gaps as teachers.
Bill Ouchi's research on turnaround Dists found when TSL drops below 80 massive imp takes place.
Look at Kanye's twitter feed! Not joking!
Culture is shared experience, for better or worse. It includes truth, lies and more. Democracy in age is like that
A positively perfect performance premeditated primarily on perturbing pre-existing professional pulls, probably.
https://t.co/TNcYAKItwe
A6: And as discussed this weekend, don't give out so many assignments that invite the opportunity to cheat! Individuality is key.
But that concern is still very real & probably not a great fit for most teachers & classes (in my opinion)
Thanks, I meant to share that but got distracted by snapchat.
That's a cool idea! Yoink
A7: Case studies and scenarios; Happened in real life as learning opportunities
A7: Case studies and scenarios; Happened in real life as learning opportunities
A7 If you want to show kids the importance of read/write YOU read/write, if Dig Citz is that important GET online and demonstrate
A4. Police involvement. Criminal records. For both Ts and Ss.
A7: I talk with Ss about building their personal brand. Who do you aspire to be? Do your online actions support your brand?
A7 I wish were awake for this one, she's the media literacy Queen
thanks!! I added it to the resources.
My pillow is calling me. Thank you for the ideas and great conversation Have a good one! 🤓
A7 Not everyone gets punished for mean tweets. Some people win the GOP nomination in SC
A6. Give students plenty of opps to research and cite, not just 1 project per sem. Teach citation. Let them use easybib. Etc.
Going negative gets you noticed. It's a strong message all over. Need to teach to resist that
face palm and weeping, all at once.
Hey Matt!! So glad you are here!! Thanks for your ideas!
