#dtk12chat Archive

Please join us for a weekly conversation about design thinking in K12 education. We will have a variety of moderators with a wide range and depth of design thinking experiences. Each week, we will connect the dots to the design thinking methodology and how it can and will play a bigger role in today’s K12 educational arena.

Wednesday December 12, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Good Evening and welcome to the weekly #dtk12chat hosted each week by a different MOD at 9pm sharp. Tonight I get the honor of hosting our conversation.
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Q0 Please share WHO you are, WHERE you are and a person you are thankful for and WHY? #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello #DTK12Chat Jackie from CT; former high school social studies, now library media and thankful for being a local activator for @fdesignschool learn so much from that community and their future skills PD!
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    A0: Jill in MN, grateful for my husband, family and co-works that inspire me to challenge myself #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Is that a recent pic? We haven't seen the sun in days! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Jackie welcome to the chat. So glad to have you. It is a little quiet. Will give a few more minutes. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @fdesignschool
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A0 Chris Fancher in Round Rock Tx and I am thankful for my coauthor @thnorfar #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A0: I am Laura in San Diego who is thankful to my daughter in the US Navy - this is her first holiday season away from home. #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi Jill so glad you could join. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Chris so glad you are here. We will start soon. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch, @thnorfar
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Are you going to make it. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi Laura. I did 20 years in the Navy and my wife did 23. 10 ships between us and lots of great memories. #gonavy #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I'm trying... #DTK12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Tonight I want our conversation to focus on student voice and student choice. First question coming in a moment. #dtk12chat
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A0. I'm Ela from Cambridge, thankful for my daughter's teacher right now who's been an inspiring educator and great partner in her/our journeys. Hi @TheRealJamCam!
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam, @TheRealJamCam
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
    I dread the day...#dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD, @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1 What is a SUPERPOWER you use to help students LEARN? Share Examples #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi James. It's been too long since I showed up for #dtk12chat . Missed you guys.
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi Ela, so happy to have you on tonight. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
    That's awesome. I am Army veteran, so trying to learn ship lingo. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: Mindreading. It's important to anticipate what our students are wanting to do so we can adjust as needed. #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
    It's brutal... I never thought I would feel this empty feeling. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A0 - Chris, trouble Maker in Atlanta. I am thankful for a lot of people but right now I am thinking of a student of mine who is amazing and doesn't realize it fully, yet. great kid, tough on herself, keeps me thinking about how to let herself off the hook #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
    I like that job title ;-) #DTK12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
    First question is release. Feel free tonight to ask follow up questions. Hopefully we can make this a conversation. #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Whats up Chris #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Listening... the superpower at the root of empathy and essential for students to be able to use their voices #DTK12Chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Just add Deck, Bulkhead, Overhead, and Scuttlebutt in the first year of language learning. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Do you havre an example you can share? #dtk12chat
    • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1: Mindreading. It's important to anticipate what our students are wanting to do so we can adjust as needed. #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: My superpower is infusing meaningful fun into learning, mainly by working w/teachers to convert standards and content to DT real-world challenges #DTK12chat
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: my super power is making connections and building relationships. it's what makes my teaching and their learning possible #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    How have you used this power to save the day? #dtk12chat
    • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1: Listening... the superpower at the root of empathy and essential for students to be able to use their voices #DTK12Chat
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    nothin' but love, Brother James #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: Answer Avoider... helps students learn by making them find the answer to their own questions or discovering answers by experimenting & doing #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Such an important one...always interesting when Ts say students don't listen because I wonder how many Ts don't listen as well. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
    How are you tracking your work? That seems to be a needed document to share. #dtk12chat
    • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1: My superpower is infusing meaningful fun into learning, mainly by working w/teachers to convert standards and content to DT real-world challenges #DTK12chat
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A1. It took a long time to build it, but..letting go. Letting students do it. And letting them explain it. Then telling them what little’s left they didn’t figure out about it—and relishing what they taught me.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
    When I start a project I always start with the Question Formulation Technique (QFT) from @RightQuestion . So I already know what they want to know. Then I magically produce a lesson plan that "just happens" to cover a topic they listed. #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    That's hard for me in my adult interactions. I am a Driver... I want to solve issues/barriers and I need to remind myself that I don't always have the answers #DTK12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    How do students respond to your superpower? #dtk12chat
    • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1: Answer Avoider... helps students learn by making them find the answer to their own questions or discovering answers by experimenting & doing #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I listened to a student lamenting that self-driving cars might mean he never gets a license and let him lead a discussion on being disrupted by tech https://t.co/IPpIPVTOGF #DTK12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    This past week I have focused on helping Ss be more curious about what they are learning; skipping answers altogether #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Love that answer. That is the hardest thing for teachers to do when they move away from traditional "Sage on the stage" teaching. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
    My team is working on creating lesson/unit guides for teachers. We have a blog and have created support materials. https://t.co/k9UUVskk2o #DTK12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Oh yeah! Sometimes they wear me down #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
    That's awesome. Ben Linder at @OlinCollege taught me "always answer questions with questions." Of course the students complain that they like the TA's because they give direct answers...but it's totally the way to go. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @OlinCollege
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    So tonight I hope you can use your superpower to tackle the question around student voice and choice. Maybe not the superpower of Answer Avoider. haha #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    I totally understand! #DTK12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    next question now #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    my students hate when I answer with, "Well, what do you think you should do?" #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Several years ago- frustration; now excitement. Sometimes when I say - I don't know, you should try it - they respond with 'Really?' Excited to have permission to test out their own idea #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    That's awesome. And interesting... I'm finding a lot less teens interested in getting their license due to Uber/Lyft. The disruption is hitting from so many angles #DTK12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    how'd that go? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q2 please share your definition of STUDENT VOICE Q2A Please share your definition of STUDENT CHOICE #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Ha! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @OlinCollege
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Forget ask three then me. No more questions #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @chrisandres003
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
    They really hate it when the YOU is emphasized... "Well, what do YOOOOOU think you should do?" #DTK12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I will be able to retire when my students stop asking permission to wonder, explore, and learn... heartbreaking that they still think they need "permission" to do these things :( #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @TheRealJamCam
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    great! it let's them off the hook for a response but validates connections that may otherwise seem too loose. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Do you ever hear, don't ask him he is just going to respond with a question? #dtk12chat
    • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
      my students hate when I answer with, "Well, what do you think you should do?" #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Student voice: The "product" created shows the audience who the creator was. Student choice: Options are given and considered and selected BY THE STUDENT. #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    ohhhh... that's a tough one. Plus there are different types of questions right? Especially when it comes to safety/equipment questions vs content/knowledge/wondering ?'s #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam, @chrisandres003
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Yes. often. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
    couple of years ago we talked about how all the action is happening on their phones, so if they are driving they miss the cool stuff #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD, @MsJWhiting
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I like it... I'll have to try it #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    So true. Have you ever been a passenger in a car on a route that you drive often and you suddenly notice landscape you never saw before? I feel like that's the lives of many teens these days. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 By telling stories S's find voice, develop identity & sense of self, find their place in community & can seek connections in wider circles & apply themselves to improving those spaces for the good of everyone #dtk12chat
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I have been trying to help them use "ask three" to build a better network. it's not about finding the answer, rather it's finding who to learn more from...who's doing something cool that I want to learn more about #curiosity and #network #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @TheRealJamCam
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A2. To @MsJWhiting's point about listening...student voice to me is when students are truly listened to. Student choice is when they're trusted to make their own decisions, believing that the outcomes will be fine either way—and that the trust is what matters most.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Often teachers worry about giving students choice. The key is to give options that the teacher is comfortable with monitoring. As the teacher grows comfortable it becomes easier to give over to the students for choosing what options are available. #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: I worry about voice/choice when I hear it thrown around a lot because I see choice whittled down to THIS worksheet or THAT worksheet. Choice needs to include agency and important decision making #DTK12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Can you say more about "the product"? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
    It's very much a work in progress so feedback is always appreciated but hoping to have it robust by June. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I like that. Trust IS the key. Students will make mistakes and they will learn from them. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
    that's a great mindset to have and instill.. makes me think about badge type systems I've read about... these people are 'experts' in these fields. Never tried it though #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003, @TheRealJamCam
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Yes! As adults we are empowered when we are trusted to design our own PD... students deserve the same respect for their learning processes! #dtk12chat
    • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
      #dtk12chat A2. To @MsJWhiting's point about listening...student voice to me is when students are truly listened to. Student choice is when they're trusted to make their own decisions, believing that the outcomes will be fine either way—and that the trust is what matters most.
      In reply to @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    How would you help someone get away from the "worksheet" mentality #dtk12chat
    • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
      A2: I worry about voice/choice when I hear it thrown around a lot because I see choice whittled down to THIS worksheet or THAT worksheet. Choice needs to include agency and important decision making #DTK12chat
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    lately, I'm realizing that Ss don't know how to be curious...beyond what they think is possibly expected of them. #dtk12chat I want to help them find value in their own curiosity and connect it to what is in front of them, regardless of whether they like it or not
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I don't know about this technique, i'll have to look into it. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch, @RightQuestion
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    When a unit/time period/deadline is reached there should be something that the students have produced. Written/video/built/sung.... #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    You are already at my last question. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And honestly, it's okay if the outcome is NOT fine because we all make mistakes and resilience must be practiced. Dust yourself off, make a different choice, and keep moving forward #DTK12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Go one step further... if they don't make mistakes they are only rehearsing what they already know and can do and aren't really learning anything! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch, @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam
  • teacherdarden Dec 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
    #dtk12chat I believe in giving choices when asking students to demonstrate their learning. Makes them more engaged, motivated, and has them steering the way they learn.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
    The follow up question is coming #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Q3 WHAT ARE POSSIBLE BENEFITS OF GIVING STUDENTS VOICE? Q3A WHAT ARE POSSIBLE BENEFITS TO GIVING STUDENTS CHOICE #dtk12chat
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
    yes, the "beacons" in the room. I also take Ss on a tour of the room to see what might inspire them, if they get stuck...also trying to reprogram the other Ss from thinking that someone is "stealing" their idea #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @TheRealJamCam
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Agreed, that's the sense I meant: that long-term, they'll be fine whether they learned the "easy" way (success right away) or the "hard" way (through mistakes). As you said, we all learn mostly through the latter! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD, @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I have 3 Ts gr level "hubs" answering that ?? now. We've researched agency & personalization, made action plans, and trying them now. In 1st mtg, choice = worksheets. By 3d mtg, choice = relationship building, understanding needs, and guiding Ss to make decisions #DTK12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Cool, I look forward to reading it! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @TheRealJamCam
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I love it and have used it for 4 years now. It gives the students ownership of the learning by addressing their Q's about the topic. [Truth - I always end up adding a Q or 2 that is one I want them to know. With 6 periods I just say "That question came from period 3"} #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @RightQuestion
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I know... I was saying it more out to the world that is scared of Ss making poor choices. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam, @MsJWhiting
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
    we need to talk, face to face, GHO or something. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
    We need to model choices for teachers too. Many are stripped of their own agency (predefined curriculum, schedules, PD, etc) so it's hard for them to apply it to Ss. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Oh yeah! I try to frame it as we are a community of learners and here to inspire each other. Sometimes we'll do gallery walk 1/2 way through to show off, and get ideas or have ss share something that didn't work so others can learn from your mistakes #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003, @TheRealJamCam
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A3. That they develop the motivation and skills to use them (their voices and choices) in ways that make a difference. They feel better about themselves, and make the world a better place.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Yes for their classroom but also teachers given PD choices. #dtk12chat
    • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
      We need to model choices for teachers too. Many are stripped of their own agency (predefined curriculum, schedules, PD, etc) so it's hard for them to apply it to Ss. #DTK12chat
      In reply to @cfanch
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: choice is more than choosing from a predetermined list of project options... it means S's charting their own path through new content, identifying skills needed & developing them. When S's wonder How might we... they are open to all possibilities #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    YES! So unfortunate for our students that the teachers aren't allowed to build agency. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    While I don't know that frame, I totally do that same thing! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch, @RightQuestion
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I love Warren Berger's work around beautiful questions. Children are naturally curious. Why do they lose it? Adults. #DTK12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003, @GHSTEAMchic
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Agreed! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
    that makes 4 new tabs! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD, @TheRealJamCam
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
    I love this approach because it values their strengths and unique passions/talents #DTK12chat
    In reply to @teacherdarden, @TheRealJamCam
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Haha... that happens to me every Wednesday night! #DTK12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @TheRealJamCam
  • rolat Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #dtk12chat Hi everyone joining in late A3- Giving Ss voice is when Ss co-create & co-construct, value each others' thinking no biases and all perspectives are acceptable. Giving Ss choice is leadership, ownership of learning.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A2: S voice is the connection Ss make with their learning; A2a: S choice is opportunity to explore their connection with their learning more deeply #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    We are at the half way point. next question on the way #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
    When teachers start with voice and choice I always talk about giving the students options about how they will present. Then move to options for the product. Then, finally, the product & the presentation. #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A2: For me SS voice is helping guide the direction of learning (content/process); A2A: SS choice is Ss deciding how to show their learning/knowledge of new content/process/skill #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q4 WHAT ARE POSSIBLE PITFALLS OF GIVING STUDENTS VOICE? Q4A WHAT ARE POSSIBLE PITFALLS OF GIVING STUDENTS CHOICE? #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 We can't talk about voice without also talking about audience... students need to be empowered to explore their ideas with people who take them seriously and empower them to act #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:36 PM EST
    yikes, neither of those seem like a good choice #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Correct. But it's where a lot of people start and then they can branch beyond to true personalization and choice #DTK12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
    How would you recommend prepping the audience and/or helping students determine their audience? #dtk12chat
    • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A3 We can't talk about voice without also talking about audience... students need to be empowered to explore their ideas with people who take them seriously and empower them to act #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
    such a good question #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: When students organically explore content and self-expression independently they are all at different points in their process at different times. Hard to know when everyone is "done" #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
    you are good for finding the good in that situation and helping staff move up! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I think you need to spend time building empathy - "Who cares and why?" If students can't answer that then maybe they need guidance to change their choice. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
    What are some examples of choices that you might give them? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @teacherdarden
  • teacherdarden Dec 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
    #dtk12chat I jumped in a bit late this eve. I am Rosita from FL. Today I am thankful for my 93 year-old granny.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Good Q! My answer is both. We have a pitchfest in my #digitalliteracy class next week. I invited some audience members & the S's can each invite as many people as they want from in and outside of school #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:40 PM EST
    At the deadline, how do you determine meaningful progress? Asking for a friend. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A3 and 3A: Total engagement for sure, working toward empowerment #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Progress should be documented throughout the process with reflection exploring decisions made, reviewing prototypes and feedback. The end is always in sight even if it is evolving #dtk12chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam, @cfanch
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    so good! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD, @TheRealJamCam
  • teacherdarden Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #dtk12chat True engagement, motivation, happiness, creativity, growth, academic gains!
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: When you give students choice they can go too big ("Go big or go home!") or go too small ("Is that all you plan on doing? You have 3 more weeks in this unit.") #dtk12chat
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A4. Supporting student voice and choice is so important—and so easy to slip up. Pitfalls to me are what happens if students voices and decisions aren’t truly respected, or the mistakes that might be made aren’t truly supported.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I dream of the day... #dtk12chat
    In reply to @LSpencerEdD, @cfanch
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Yep! yep! Yep! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr, @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Couple more questions before we call it a night. #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Encourage moonshot thinking! They can always scale back to first drafts on a time frame; good to keep in mind the question: how can my idea be scaled up? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:45 PM EST
    I'm curious about the work. what are they pitching? what are they learning and applying? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Or that they present their ideas to an audience with the intent of making their audience act differently #dtk12chat my 5th gr is working on persuading other grades to stop cutting across forest trails #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Q5 WHAT ARE WAYS THAT #DESIGNTHINKING GAVE YOU THE ABILITY TO ALLOW STUDENTS TO HAVE VOICE AND CHOICE? #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A multi-week project designing to solutions to the problems they experience w/ social media while preserving the benefits; iterating on prototypes now and pitching ideas next week https://t.co/E2le3r2uVa #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003, @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4: going to fast too soon; too much freedom or lack of direction in k-5 can lead to floundering; or trying to use a new tool w/o directions #dtk12chat
  • rolat Dec 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4- You build a culture of risk-taking. Acceptable pitfalls become real learning moments for consolidation & learning #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5: Watch later, but here's an example of voice and choice through #DesignThinking with 6th graders. https://t.co/24rbSlGoPB #DTK12chat
  • Hamm_Ed Dec 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Last year, Thanks to @asantosb we were given the opportunity to think differently about our High School Business and Tech Classes. This is the story of that journey and the launch of the #StartUpHub I hope you enjoy. https://t.co/1rDcx8X0XA #ASFMLearns #EdTechTeam #DtK12chat
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
    my 5th grdrs are trying to affect behaviors with coding and microcontrollers #dtk12chat success is determined by whether or not they can change behaviors like piano stairs and stuff
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
    how fun is that! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @chrisandres003, @MsJWhiting
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:51 PM EST
    These are such great points...#dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    having outside guests always ups the level and such a good experience to interact with 'real world' #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @TheRealJamCam
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5 How might we compensate for Nick's unreliability as a narrator? (Essential Question for Gatsby). Students own the process of reading and exploring this text. #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5: Here's another example of a project that just concluded which was full of voice and choice: https://t.co/qY5qGD73xt #DTK12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: IB Design allowed me to move from core classes & I create my own curriculum. But 8 years of PBL (math) with a few years of added DT allowed me to feel comfortable allowing my students to have more voice and choice as well as answering "why are we doing this?" #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Yes! Authentic audiences for the win. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting, @TheRealJamCam
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I think this is a good point, i'd rather scale back than try to add for the sake of adding #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @cfanch
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Q6 HOW WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE (AND SUPPORT) OTHER EDUCATORS TO GIVE STUDENTS VOICE AND CHOICE? #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:55 PM EST
    that sounds amazing, again I look forward to reading more #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @chrisandres003, @TheRealJamCam
  • chrisandres003 - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:55 PM EST
    This is great. I wonder if the work would be different if they interviewed another user and designed for them #dtk12chat #justthinkingoutloud
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @TheRealJamCam
  • ElaBenUr Dec 12 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A5. It enabled the trust teachers need to give students voice and choice—as a meaningful and wise, while open-ended, way for them to express their voice and explore their choices. I see students empowered to navigate their own challenges, conflicts, projects...
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6: Empathy. Listen without judgment and then help them move forward. Examples, resources, collaboration, model a lesosn, support them when they try and celebrate attempts...each Ts has unique needs. It's not a quick fix. #DTK12Chat
  • teacherdarden Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    #dtk12chat Voice: Some have no filters or boundaries 🤦🏽‍♀️🥴 Choice: Some can be overstimulated by choices and/or are perfectionists and afraid of failing at their own choice. 😲
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Where does the time go? I just posted the last question for tonight but I have more thoughts that are brewing. #dtk12chat
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Tomorrow will be last day for our 8th graders creating dioramas of a library redesign for our school. They will (hopefully) be presenting to our head of school and others their ideas for making our library into a learning commons. #dtk12chat
  • rolat Dec 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5- Allowing Ss to be critical thinkers, take ownership, build leadership, be creative and develop perseverance to take & accept challenges. Learning, developing and reflecting on a process of collobarative communitaty action tkaing. #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
    oh yeah, the why is huge! Without the why it's not much #dtk12chat
    In reply to @cfanch
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Right?! I want these chats to be two hours long. #DTK12Chat
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • MsJWhiting Dec 12 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A6: It is hard to help S's do something many T's are not empowered to do themselves. When T's learn #designthinking as a way to write & implement curriculum, it becomes pedagogy #dtk12chat
  • teacherdarden Dec 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
    #dtk12chat Designing with empathy is so unique to each individual. It organically produces student voice and choice.
    In reply to @TheRealJamCam
  • cfanch Dec 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A6: Start small. Are you comfortable with students choosing between a poem, a skit, or a claymation that demonstrates the solution (product) for the problem? -OR- have them all present the same way but give them options of how they solve the problem. #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A5: DT helps me help ss find the audience, defines the 'why' and lends it self to ss having voice & choice as they determine and research needs + solutions for audience #dtk12chat
  • TheRealJamCam - Moderator Dec 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you all for sharing tonight. I selfishly use these opportunities to help me answer questions that keep circulating in my mind. You all have helped me get the thoughts out, collect new thoughts and confirm thoughts #dtk12chat
  • LSpencerEdD Dec 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Amen! #DTK12Chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting