#ASEchat Archive

The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.

Monday November 5, 2018
3:00 PM EST

  • MrsMurat Nov 5 @ 3:00 PM EST
    Students are combatting haters and trolls in DigCit class! https://t.co/LSEU5na9vQ #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:01 PM EST
    Welcome to #ASEChat. I’m interested in what the @EducEndowFoundn Science Guidance report recommendations look like in your classroom. Primary and Secondary. …and whether you think anything is missing. You can find it here: https://t.co/U7ifixDBXZ
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:02 PM EST
    Taking full advantage of being the host, and going for my favourite topic first! How to you support your pupils to retain and retrieve knowledge? What does it look like in your classroom? #ASEchat This one might interest those #CogSciSci folk...
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:02 PM EST
    Nope! We looked at replacing them as well just costs too much #asechat #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:03 PM EST
    I’ll be lurking in the shadows 😂 #ASEChat
  • SebdAgar Nov 5 @ 3:04 PM EST
    Retrieval quizzes every lesson with my Y11 group this year. 10 questions, 5 minutes, review key terms and concepts which weren’t retrieved well #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:04 PM EST
    come out come out! Wherever you are....! :-) #ASEChat
    In reply to @HollyWalshSci
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:05 PM EST
    How do you determine which things need to be reviewed? Do you collect scores in for each question? Or just ask for a show of hands? #ASEChat
    In reply to @SebdAgar
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:05 PM EST
    Some of my ideas here #asechat #ukedchat #retrievalpractice #CogSciSci https://t.co/TRfiMJbddA
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
    #ASEChat
    • pna1977 Nov 5 @ 3:05 PM EST
      low stakes recall tests at the start of lessons, lots of retrieval practice using grids and possibly exam questions.Spaced revision practice and interleaving of topics.
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
    I really think there is something to this retrieval practice thing. I’m just hoping leadership remember its a learning strategy and mot a thing you have you show evidence that you are doing! #ASEChat
  • stormeducation Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
    Rob, we have some (free) interactive science activities for primary/KS1 children online at https://t.co/1zT3ETnWux (we'd welcome feedback at this stage) #asechat
    In reply to @cleverfiend
  • SebdAgar Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
    Ask pupils for the questions they need review #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
    Low stakes are the forward plenty of other ideas from the @AceThatTest and even @SenecaLearn supports this #asechat
    In reply to @pna1977, @chemDrK, @AceThatTest, @SenecaLearn
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:07 PM EST
    Here's a little bit more detail, if you want it. How do you take cognitive load into account? How do you help pupils to retrieve and retain what they've learned? #ASEchat @adamboxer1 wrote an excellent post on CLT recently. @dave2004b has done some brill work with this.
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:07 PM EST
    #asechat Looked at this today with teachers across Cheshire; we looked at quizzing; using revision cards; how to choose topics for revisiting; referenced your article too •https://t.co/7DyiJxMeGo
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:02 PM EST
      Taking full advantage of being the host, and going for my favourite topic first! How to you support your pupils to retain and retrieve knowledge? What does it look like in your classroom? #ASEchat This one might interest those #CogSciSci folk...
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:07 PM EST
    Can you explain what you mean by grids, please? :-) #ASEChat How do you decide how and when to space/ interleave?... (questions questions!... :-) )
    In reply to @pna1977
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:08 PM EST
    Ah! I see :-) #ASEChat
    In reply to @SebdAgar
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:08 PM EST
    Great stuff. @adamboxer1 did the original... but so many people been generous with ideas and resources since #ASEChat #CogSciSci
    • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
      Our department are using Retrieval Roulette based on science fundamentals starting from y7 through to y11. Start of every lesson, without fail. (Credit to the fancy spreadsheet maker!)
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:08 PM EST
    #asechat - When teaching practicals have found it helpful to really think about what I want students to get out of the activity - is it the ability to use a piece of apparatus; is it to generate a set of results etc.
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:07 PM EST
      Here's a little bit more detail, if you want it. How do you take cognitive load into account? How do you help pupils to retrieve and retain what they've learned? #ASEchat @adamboxer1 wrote an excellent post on CLT recently. @dave2004b has done some brill work with this.
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:09 PM EST
    Ah brilliant! :-) How do you choose the topics to re-visit? #ASEChat
    In reply to @SKLchem
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:10 PM EST
    So… now back to recommendation number one. How do you find out which preconceptions your pupils hold? #ASEchat This is where I'll call on the expert that is @MAHardman Heard his talk at #CogSciSci this year.
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:10 PM EST
    I’ll be interested in your top three ideas/strategies #ASEchat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:11 PM EST
    So agree with this! The value is in the retrieval process. Not the answers-to-quizzes-in-books process! All about encouraging pupils to bring information to mind... Not another hoop or tick box! #ASEChat
    • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:06 PM EST
      I really think there is something to this retrieval practice thing. I’m just hoping leadership remember its a learning strategy and mot a thing you have you show evidence that you are doing! #ASEChat
  • SebdAgar Nov 5 @ 3:11 PM EST
    I use this grid for each retrieval quiz #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK, @pna1977
  • pna1977 Nov 5 @ 3:11 PM EST
    Something like this...#ASEChat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:11 PM EST
    Great question. I'll come back to this when my fingers have cooled down... ;-) #ASEChat
    In reply to @TJohns85
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:12 PM EST
    Love this! #ASEChat
    • SebdAgar Nov 5 @ 3:11 PM EST
      I use this grid for each retrieval quiz #asechat
      In reply to @chemDrK, @pna1977
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:12 PM EST
    #asechat Useful source here: Children's learning in science project; https://t.co/BZkdaSq9DH and here · https://t.co/QVkWpPjXS3
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:10 PM EST
      So… now back to recommendation number one. How do you find out which preconceptions your pupils hold? #ASEchat This is where I'll call on the expert that is @MAHardman Heard his talk at #CogSciSci this year.
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:12 PM EST
    #asechat for primary getting the message out that 1980s publication by Collins (SPACE) project made a great deal of the research accessible, now on STEM library
    In reply to @chemDrK, @MAHardman
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM EST
    Preconceptions... misconceptions... alternative conceptions... we all have them. We've all had them. Which ones are you always on the look out for? How do you approach them? #ASEchat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM EST
    Ah great! Making it really explicit what you're doing. So simple. Love it! #ASEChat
  • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM EST
    I’m hoping the pupils stop asking “can we look in our notes to check?” - it’s about the retrieval process, it’s not cheating!! #ASEChat
    In reply to @TheScienceBreak
  • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM EST
    Hello #asechat. I am a graduate students who is learning to become a teacher. I am currently student teaching 8th grade science. I am new to twitter, so if you have any tips about using twitter please throw them my way. I would love to join in your chat!
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM EST
    I have found the @RSC_EiC ones absolutely invaluable! #ASEChat
    In reply to @SKLchem, @RSC_EiC
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:14 PM EST
    Ah that sounds interesting. Worth following up. Thanks for sharing this idea. #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @MAHardman
  • zinccommunicate Nov 5 @ 3:15 PM EST
    @SiemensUKNews #SeeWomen show takes place tomorrow! With a reach of over 2,100 girls we can't wait to extend this even more. You can stream the explosive event online https://t.co/oKLGGFMXlz #ASEchat #YoE
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:15 PM EST
    #asechat How to choose topics to revisit; which do students struggle most with - ask them; from assessment; from previous experience; or link to something you are going on to - so bonding; alkenes; alcohols before teaching polymers
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:09 PM EST
      Ah brilliant! :-) How do you choose the topics to re-visit? #ASEChat
      In reply to @SKLchem
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:16 PM EST
    Yes to this! I think my pupils are thoroughly sick of me explaining that I'd much rather they thought hard and got a few wrong... (although all correct would obviously be preferable... ;-) ) #ASEChat
    • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM EST
      I’m hoping the pupils stop asking “can we look in our notes to check?” - it’s about the retrieval process, it’s not cheating!! #ASEChat
      In reply to @TheScienceBreak
  • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:16 PM EST
    There are so many misconceptions and I wonder how they are formed. Do we inadvertently foster them as teachers? Or is it the common use of language... #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:16 PM EST
    #asechat and equivalent Teaching Secondary Science by Driver et al , again 1990s , also check the American Atlas of Scientific literacy
    In reply to @chemDrK, @MAHardman
  • owl_physics Nov 5 @ 3:17 PM EST
    Need help with GCSE Physics? check out Foster's Physics helpful video tutorials! This one is on Electromagnetism! https://t.co/0DwzFx3nc6 #ukedchat #science #asechat #nqtchat #ittchat #aussieED #edchat #physics #physicsteaching #GCSEs
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:17 PM EST
    Yes! Always look for the links that you know exist, but pupils wouldn't necessarily spot... and re-visit before teaching new (linked) topic. #ASEChat
    • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:15 PM EST
      #asechat How to choose topics to revisit; which do students struggle most with - ask them; from assessment; from previous experience; or link to something you are going on to - so bonding; alkenes; alcohols before teaching polymers
      • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:09 PM EST
        Ah brilliant! :-) How do you choose the topics to re-visit? #ASEChat
        In reply to @SKLchem
  • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:17 PM EST
    Experience plays a part in anticipating misconceptions, but there’s also loads of useful websites in the report that highlight them too. After each assessment our department is making a note of misconceptions to refer to when teaching the topic again - best to preempt! #ASEChat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:18 PM EST
    Both of these, I think. Plus we form our own impression of the world as we grow up.... #ASEChat
    In reply to @TheScienceBreak
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:18 PM EST
    #asechat both and more. Parents and public responsible as well, being lazy, not able to answer appropriately so giving off the cuff response not thought about
    In reply to @TheScienceBreak
  • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:19 PM EST
    I mean the next lesson when started retrieval questions are asked, they are allowed to look in their notes to check... I thought this ‘finding’ the answer to the question helps?! 🙈 #ASEChat
    In reply to @pna1977, @TheScienceBreak
  • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:19 PM EST
    For maximising the testing effect, remember feedback is important. And use a range of strategies. #ASEChat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:20 PM EST
    How do you support your pupils to read and write about Science? #ASEChat This time, I'm paging @AJTF71 as I've learned so much from her about all this.
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:20 PM EST
    #asechat the questions from before that they thought were hard or impossible to answer even if they got them right
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:22 PM EST
    I find that a lot of earth science misconceptions stem from the content that is presented in action films (such as San Andreas). I tackle these misconceptions by explicitly telling the students why it is a misconception and present them with the correct information. #asechat
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:22 PM EST
    #asechat Today we have been planning which topics lend themselves to compare and contrast questions; which practicals are good for evaluating and which we could use to describe and explain; then been planning support to improve 6 mark ques
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:20 PM EST
      How do you support your pupils to read and write about Science? #ASEChat This time, I'm paging @AJTF71 as I've learned so much from her about all this.
  • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:22 PM EST
    This is my fav - I love asking retrieval questions that are the foundations of the topic of the next lesson 👍🏼 #ASEChat
    In reply to @SKLchem
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:23 PM EST
    Yes Yes Yes to this! Yes- bring info to mind... but make sure you correct and give FB soon afterwards... #ASEChat
    • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:19 PM EST
      For maximising the testing effect, remember feedback is important. And use a range of strategies. #ASEChat
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:23 PM EST
    Oh hello! Introduce vocabulary explicitly in lessons. Explain meanings and how to pronounce the word, we do lots of repeat after me type activities. Then we use the key term to link ideas. Lots of verbal questions too. #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:24 PM EST
    #asechat and for primary so many reading books and their illustrations promote the misconceptions or even introduce new ones
    In reply to @jennylake1986
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:24 PM EST
    Yep. There's a lot out there on film. And in cartoons! There was a really interesting misconception that someone had about Roadrunner... Can anyone remember it? @HollyWalshSci do you remember what it was? #ASEChat
    • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:22 PM EST
      I find that a lot of earth science misconceptions stem from the content that is presented in action films (such as San Andreas). I tackle these misconceptions by explicitly telling the students why it is a misconception and present them with the correct information. #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:25 PM EST
    This shouldn't be news to us, should it? We've always thought about language/ literacy in Science, haven't we? Why is language so important? And have your views changed since you started teaching? #ASEchat I reckon @oboelizzy will give us some great insight here, for starters!
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:26 PM EST
    Oh gosh! Yes! #ASEChat
    • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:24 PM EST
      #asechat and for primary so many reading books and their illustrations promote the misconceptions or even introduce new ones
      In reply to @jennylake1986
  • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
    I have been learning about book club inquiries in my content reading and writing class. Allowing students to choose a science book (fiction or nonfiction) can engage them in asking questions to begin their own inquiry project. #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
    This sounds really interesting! Would love to hear more about this. #ASEChat We're really thinking about this kind of thing in our school, too. Might have to ambush you at the meeting in Peterborough (if you're there?....)
    • pna1977 Nov 5 @ 3:24 PM EST
      We love and are developing booklets of authentic texts to use with students. Supports use of Tier 3 words in context an links to tier 2 which are still necessary to access exam questions.
      In reply to @chemDrK, @AJTF71
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
    #asechat biggest issue not addressed in report is how do we get its messages and practices to those who do not read, are ase members, not on chat tonight but just trudge along with no reference to this
    In reply to @chemDrK, @oboelizzy
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
    I have a group in Y 10 that struggle reading text for meaning so we now do simple DART activities. I read a paragraph then use a box, circle or underline activity under visualiser. They read it again and then I question them on it before we do any written answers #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:28 PM EST
    Can you expand? :-) #ASEChat
    In reply to @rbegum2013, @AJTF71
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:28 PM EST
    #ASEChat
    • rbegum2013 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
      Repeat after me?
      In reply to @AJTF71, @chemDrK
  • pentaclethra Nov 5 @ 3:28 PM EST
    You could build a cloud chamber. I made one with @matt_bellis a few years ago at a summer program @SienaCollege I know there are some other ones you can find online using dry ice. #scitlap #asechat
    In reply to @TJohns85, @matt_bellis, @SienaCollege
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:29 PM EST
    We talked a lot about the importance of just aloowing pupils to read!... I do much more of this than I used to. Don't feel as complelled to cram each lesson with "stuff" any more... #ASEChat
    • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
      I have been learning about book club inquiries in my content reading and writing class. Allowing students to choose a science book (fiction or nonfiction) can engage them in asking questions to begin their own inquiry project. #asechat
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:29 PM EST
    I need to add that one to this list #asechat https://t.co/jfw4OBV5NX
    In reply to @AJTF71, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:30 PM EST
    So... we're halfway through. And as I set up my auto-tweets for the questions...I've decided to try and start the fireworks! ;-) Why bother doing practical work? It's expensive, it's time-consuming, and you can arguably learn much quicker by just observing someone else! #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:30 PM EST
    #asechat typical MFL technique extended into source , meaning and use of the word etc I believe
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:30 PM EST
    As in say the word. Last week we looked at antigen, antibody and lymphocytes. Many didn’t know how to pronounce them. So I make them say it back #ASEchat
    In reply to @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:30 PM EST
    (Misconception + retrieval practice) students often think reviewing their notes is more powerful than testing themselves without looking at notes. How many teachers might support that? #ASEChat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:31 PM EST
    Strategies like this so important. As much as anything to get them to slooow... dooown and actually *try* to interpret the question, rather than just rushing on to answer the question they think is being asked... #ASEChat
    • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
      I have a group in Y 10 that struggle reading text for meaning so we now do simple DART activities. I read a paragraph then use a box, circle or underline activity under visualiser. They read it again and then I question them on it before we do any written answers #asechat
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:31 PM EST
    #asechat Providing relevant articles linked to a topic - catalyst is good for GCSE and Biology review; chemistry review & Physics Review for A-level. Get them to read and then ask them what they found interesting
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:29 PM EST
      We talked a lot about the importance of just aloowing pupils to read!... I do much more of this than I used to. Don't feel as complelled to cram each lesson with "stuff" any more... #ASEChat
      • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM EST
        I have been learning about book club inquiries in my content reading and writing class. Allowing students to choose a science book (fiction or nonfiction) can engage them in asking questions to begin their own inquiry project. #asechat
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:31 PM EST
    And revisiting topics from a year ago. Make those links all the time - bridge units together #asechat
    In reply to @HollyWalshSci, @SKLchem
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:32 PM EST
    I need to read this! I have a visualiser. I need to use it more. #ASEChat
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:32 PM EST
    #asechat and I love the infographics here: https://t.co/3erHEm1pfj used to put these on my lab door and change regularly - trying to keep topical
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:33 PM EST
    #asechat variety of text types crucial. For primary add this magazines such as whiz pop bang and science + nature junior etc
    In reply to @SKLchem
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:33 PM EST
    I am a fan of text books and getting students to read about science but as we know the reading age of Sci texts is really high. So students can struggle that’s why I guide the reading where I can #asechat
    In reply to @pna1977, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:33 PM EST
    Another thing I need to do more of! In fact something I need to do... any of! I don't do this.... #ASEChat
    • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:30 PM EST
      As in say the word. Last week we looked at antigen, antibody and lymphocytes. Many didn’t know how to pronounce them. So I make them say it back #ASEchat
      In reply to @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:33 PM EST
    Great little visualiser #asechat
    In reply to @TJohns85, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:34 PM EST
    Yes. There's some pretty good (and accessible) research out there about the over-confidence people feel when they re-read compared to re-testing. @AceThatTest is a good source, and @EfratFurst describes and illustrates it beautifully #ASEChat
    • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:30 PM EST
      (Misconception + retrieval practice) students often think reviewing their notes is more powerful than testing themselves without looking at notes. How many teachers might support that? #ASEChat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:35 PM EST
    Whatever happened to fun practicals? Who still does them? Or have we always been purposeful? Can I not just "do slime" if my year 9s want me to? #ASEchat (fwiw my NQT mentor's mantra was 'if in doubt, burn it!' and I can see some value in this. I certainly lost my fear of fire)
  • ruthyie Nov 5 @ 3:35 PM EST
    We had lutenising hormone, follicle stimulating, oestogen, progesterone and much more today in a lesson in which some boys freely admitted they didn't know what menstrual meant. Massive vocab day! #asechat
    In reply to @AJTF71
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:35 PM EST
    yes- find those links that *you* recognise, but pupils won't... yet...! #ASEChat
    In reply to @TJohns85, @HollyWalshSci, @SKLchem
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:35 PM EST
    It’s particularly challenging in biology ... so many complex words ... unpronounceable names. It’s why I love biology but can be hard to comprehend #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM EST
    Once again I wrote on demo Vs practicals after I hosted a science network meeting #asechat i used some work by @alomshaha https://t.co/ncqr0jP3H7
    In reply to @chemDrK, @alomshaha
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM EST
    Yep always a challenging lesson and the interactions are complex. #asechat
    In reply to @ruthyie
  • gregtheseal Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM EST
    #asechat It is becoming much more apparent to me in biology that vocabulary is the key. Last term students were thrown by the word docile when referring to selective breeding and today it was variegated.
    In reply to @AJTF71, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM EST
    So worth doing! #ASEChat
    • ruthyie Nov 5 @ 3:35 PM EST
      We had lutenising hormone, follicle stimulating, oestogen, progesterone and much more today in a lesson in which some boys freely admitted they didn't know what menstrual meant. Massive vocab day! #asechat
      In reply to @AJTF71
  • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:37 PM EST
    I think this works really well with chemistry as you can bring ions into everything. And respiration / enzymes can be dropped into biology topics too #ASEChat
    In reply to @TJohns85, @SKLchem
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:37 PM EST
    #asechat important we set up culture in class or school where this expected etc
    In reply to @ruthyie, @AJTF71
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:37 PM EST
    #ASEChat Yes- I think I remember saying the language demand in Bio is higher? Am I imagining that?! Don't take my word for it. I'll try and find out what I was thinking of.. @AJTF71 can you help?
    • gregtheseal Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM EST
      #asechat It is becoming much more apparent to me in biology that vocabulary is the key. Last term students were thrown by the word docile when referring to selective breeding and today it was variegated.
      In reply to @AJTF71, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:38 PM EST
    Really agree. Also so pupils can begin to spot these links themselves later... #ASEChat
    • aa_science Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM EST
      I do quite a lot of work on spoken language and the root of words. I think it's really important. Also liken science words to everyday
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:39 PM EST
    @TJohns85 has ever written EVER> #ASEChat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:39 PM EST
    Worth listening to, folks! :-) #ASEChat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:40 PM EST
    Metacognition and self-regulation. What are they? And what do they look like in Science? How do you teach your pupils to plan, monitor and evaluate their own learning? #ASEchat @LST_Physics tell us about your work in this area. @HuntingEnglish anything you point us towards?
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:40 PM EST
    I was thinking about this the other day. It might be worth analysing questions for the frequency of tier two words that could cause confusion #asechat
    In reply to @gregtheseal, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • phf_uk Nov 5 @ 3:40 PM EST
    Our Teacher Development Fund supports arts-based approaches to teaching a range of subjects in primary classrooms. Grants up to £150K available to partnerships of arts/cultural orgs & up to 10 schools. Apply by 5 Dec. https://t.co/biALbKciGo #ASEchat #EngChat #bettchat #PHFTDF
  • ChristinaAstin Nov 5 @ 3:40 PM EST
    Interestingly I was working with some teachers today who identified these characteristics from their own best teachers. Guess which ones came from the male teacher? #ASEchat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:40 PM EST
    Top visualiser tip! :-) (I'd have done this too, I reckon... ;-) #ASEChat
    • ruthyie Nov 5 @ 3:38 PM EST
      I realised this week that the lens housing on the Hue twists to focus. Mine had got progressively worse and I considered it junk. All is forgiven (my snazzy old one at prev school auto-focussed). Sharing in case anyone else is as dim as I am.
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:41 PM EST
    Yes. Same. And that was 13 years ago... #ASEChat
    • TJohns85 Nov 5 @ 3:38 PM EST
      I remember the local science network advisor when I was an NQT. Her catchphrase was “where’s the learning?”
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:41 PM EST
    Yep, high in bio due to frequency of polysyllabic terms. #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:41 PM EST
    Supporting memory #ASEChat
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:42 PM EST
    #asechat analyse papers for the topics and question types they are weakest at and give them banks of questions to select from; also insisted that Y13 went over every piece of work in a different colour before handing in; this way they spot the 'silly' mistakes
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:40 PM EST
      Metacognition and self-regulation. What are they? And what do they look like in Science? How do you teach your pupils to plan, monitor and evaluate their own learning? #ASEchat @LST_Physics tell us about your work in this area. @HuntingEnglish anything you point us towards?
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:42 PM EST
    #asechat and before then as well before it became 'where's the attainment data?'
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:42 PM EST
    Might have to come back to this!!! :-) I'd make a stab from the handwriting ;-) but I'd like to read the responses when #ASEChat is over...
    In reply to @ChristinaAstin
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:43 PM EST
    Oracy is powerful in this context. We can model our own thinking, and help pupils to do the same. How do you do this is Science? #ASEchat @MrsHennah @iinvestigateall calling on your expertise!
  • gregtheseal Nov 5 @ 3:43 PM EST
    #asechat A great idea for a project. I wonder if there is variability across the exam boards?
    In reply to @AJTF71, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:43 PM EST
    Yes.... :-( #ASEChat
    • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:42 PM EST
      #asechat and before then as well before it became 'where's the attainment data?'
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • TheScienceBreak Nov 5 @ 3:44 PM EST
    Anyone know about CASE? Part of the approach is to encourage metacognition... but any strategy that encourages the thinking about the thinking helps... #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:44 PM EST
    #asechat where to start? See EEF earlier report on metacognition and self regulation
    In reply to @SKLchem
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:44 PM EST
    Literacy demand in Bio compared to Chem and Phys #ASEChat
    • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:41 PM EST
      Yep, high in bio due to frequency of polysyllabic terms. #asechat
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • ruthyie Nov 5 @ 3:44 PM EST
    You're right. This physics teacher went into it thinking 'I'll just do menstruation then the test next lesson'. Hold up! #asechat
    In reply to @AJTF71
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:45 PM EST
    #asechat speak out loud as you think, let the kids inside your head, dramatically have those light bulb moments again in front of class ......
    In reply to @chemDrK, @MrsHennah, @iinvestigateall
  • jennylake1986 Nov 5 @ 3:46 PM EST
    A thumbs up, thumbs to the side, and thumbs down helps all students to evaluate if they understand the content. The simplest measures can be used to help students learn to self-evaluate. #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:46 PM EST
    Great source of tier 2 words #ASEChat
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:46 PM EST
    I agree with where’s the learning .. depends on your object for the lesson if it is to get better at measuring then why not make slime as long as you focus on how to use the equipment correctly to measure #asechat
    In reply to @TJohns85, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:47 PM EST
    Models come in many forms. Why do we use them? Which ones do you use? What do we need to be wary of? #ASEchat @BenRogersEdu is an expert at finding ways of modelling abstract thinking (eg. bar modelling).
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:47 PM EST
    Like the look of this. And like the sound of knowledge harvests. Is that like a "brain dump" type idea?.... #ASEChat
    • HelpfulScience Nov 5 @ 3:45 PM EST
      Was talking today to a teacher who uses "knowledge harvests" - I love the name! Reaping what has been sown... Here's a slide from the start of my CPD days - I always do a bit on misconceptions before going into any subject knowledge as it underpins pretty much everything I do.
      In reply to @chemDrK, @MAHardman
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:47 PM EST
    #asechat mainly 1980s 90s before too many needed pupils to stop thinking and just score well on tests and exams
    In reply to @TheScienceBreak
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:47 PM EST
    This is a great video by @alomshaha and well worth a watch when thinking about practical work https://t.co/ZCY3AM2EAZ #asechat
    In reply to @TJohns85, @chemDrK, @alomshaha
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:48 PM EST
    yes! Especially when you make a slip and have to work out where you've gone wrong... #wouldneverhappentome #happensallthetime #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @MrsHennah, @iinvestigateall
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM EST
    Some great links to explore here for pre- / mis-conceptions #ASEChat
    • MAHardman Nov 5 @ 3:47 PM EST
      So late to this party - sorry! The SPACE materials linkind to the Children's Learning in Science Project (CLIS) which can still be found out there sometimes. There are also great links here: https://t.co/UlIU33bjvA. Not to mention the IOP PIPER project https://t.co/avGQOYfW5R
      In reply to @stevethedoc1, @chemDrK
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM EST
    I’m sure there is. Student context is also key, city students and rural students for example #asechat
    In reply to @gregtheseal, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:50 PM EST
    #asechat Discuss limitations of models as well as benefits - the bell jar lungs - ques why it is good; the diaphragm moves, the lungs inflate - limitation no movement of ribcage.
    In reply to @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:50 PM EST
    Ah yes! I remember you talking about this when it came out and I read your post then. Need to re-read. Thanks for sharing. #ASEChat
    • HelpfulScience Nov 5 @ 3:48 PM EST
      Look forward to reading other people's suggestions - been thinking a lot about this over the past few years! Here are the things I do: https://t.co/yd8Wuw7uR5
      In reply to @chemDrK, @AJTF71
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:50 PM EST
    #ASEChat
    • MAHardman Nov 5 @ 3:48 PM EST
      Facinated by this and have a PhD student looking at it. I think children actually reason through the models they see, not the concepts.
      In reply to @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:51 PM EST
    I'd love to hear more about this!! #ASEChat
    • MAHardman Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM EST
      When tested, I see pupils drawing the specific diagrams/models they have seen in class, and I suspect they are what pupils imagine when answering questions.
      In reply to @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:51 PM EST
    #asechat what has today become 'Science Capital'
    In reply to @AJTF71, @gregtheseal, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • aa_science Nov 5 @ 3:51 PM EST
    And there in is a huge issue. Also regional splits between language used #asechat
    In reply to @AJTF71, @gregtheseal, @rbegum2013, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:51 PM EST
    THANK YOU! @HollyWalshSci this is one for us to use, don't you think? #ASEChat
    In reply to @AJTF71, @TJohns85, @alomshaha, @HollyWalshSci
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:51 PM EST
    This looks fantastic 😊 #asechat
    In reply to @HelpfulScience, @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
    The final one... How do you make sure you develop the learner and not (just) the work? #ASEchat How do you do this effectively, while still maintaining a work-life balance? Have your views on this changed over the past few year? I've learned a lot from @HFletcherWood on this
  • teacherchalky1 Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
    Don't forget about the extra maths content in the new GCSE Science spec! Have a go at this electricity practice question. #ukedchat #asechat #aqaphysics #aqascience #sciencerevision #revision #ocrphysics #edexcelphysics
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
    #asechat and to take us back to start tonight where model reinforces etc misconceptions
    In reply to @SKLchem, @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • MAHardman Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
    Yes. Begs the question as to when you introduce this though - they need to know the 'real phenomenon' before they can critique the model #ASEChat
    In reply to @SKLchem, @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
    ;-) it's usually me that forgets. I have it tattooed on my forehead tonight: #ASEChat
    In reply to @MAHardman
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:53 PM EST
    Yes! This is so important. When I used to teach 21st Century Sci, there were whole lessons based around discussions of the merits (or otherwise) of models. I thought they were really good. #ASECHat
    • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:50 PM EST
      #asechat Discuss limitations of models as well as benefits - the bell jar lungs - ques why it is good; the diaphragm moves, the lungs inflate - limitation no movement of ribcage.
      In reply to @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:53 PM EST
    #asechat Sometimes just changing the context - carry out the thiosulphate reaction and challenge students to change temperature/conc to get the cross to disappear at a particular time - make it a competition
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:35 PM EST
      Whatever happened to fun practicals? Who still does them? Or have we always been purposeful? Can I not just "do slime" if my year 9s want me to? #ASEchat (fwiw my NQT mentor's mantra was 'if in doubt, burn it!' and I can see some value in this. I certainly lost my fear of fire)
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:53 PM EST
    #ASEChat
    • serenakayteach Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM EST
      I complete retrieval do nows each lesson. 10 questions- 5 from current topic/ 5 from others. Students mark in green and I can visually see which ones need repeating in a few lessons time.
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:54 PM EST
    #asechat Brings back memories of APP!
    • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:53 PM EST
      Yes! This is so important. When I used to teach 21st Century Sci, there were whole lessons based around discussions of the merits (or otherwise) of models. I thought they were really good. #ASECHat
      • SKLchem Nov 5 @ 3:50 PM EST
        #asechat Discuss limitations of models as well as benefits - the bell jar lungs - ques why it is good; the diaphragm moves, the lungs inflate - limitation no movement of ribcage.
        In reply to @chemDrK, @BenRogersEdu
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:54 PM EST
    I agree that this is a huge reason for doing practical work, and we shouldn't shy away from it! Important aspect of Self-regulation is motivation.... #ASEChat
    • AlfredoNokez1 Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM EST
      Because it’s inspiring, engaging, fun, informative....and pupils do learn from doing it. As a teacher of 25 years plus, it’s what I’ve also enjoyed...probably because we didn’t do any in my own school as a pupil.
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • aa_science Nov 5 @ 3:54 PM EST
    @chemDrK @AmandaChalmers3 are there any scientific based books that we could recommend our students read (ideally that are on accelerated reader but not exclusively). I'm looking at promoting wider reading that isn't magazine's and journals #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:55 PM EST
    ARGH! That's great, but it's also... it does make me feel a bit sad! But fab that your pupils haven't missed out... I hope you find a tech soon! :-) #ASEChat
    • mrsjw93 Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM EST
      I love doing practicals. But we haven’t had a science tech since the end of September so no practicals at all...naturally affected my teaching, I do feel like lessons are missing something now and then but has it affected what the children have learnt? Honestly don’t think so!
      In reply to @pna1977, @chemDrK, @TeamScienceEdu
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 5 @ 3:55 PM EST
    #asechat if only APP had been used as intended and not hijacked for tracking etc we might be in a better place now!?
    In reply to @SKLchem
  • MAHardman Nov 5 @ 3:56 PM EST
    Remember a great teacher-led study in SSR showing how pupils reason better when making 3D models of cells than seeing the same 2D diagrams - Trgidgo & Ratcliffe (2000) “The use of modelling for improving pupils learning about cells”, 81(296) pp54-59. #ASEChat
    In reply to @chemDrK
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:56 PM EST
    Top tips for supporting metacognition in Science... #ASEChat
    • LST_Physics Nov 5 @ 3:54 PM EST
      There are a number of effective ways you can develop meta skills with your students. Creating a structure to support students in planning for a task, monitoring and evaluating their progress is key. I explain more about this + using exam wrappers here https://t.co/GnbOrGBM71
      In reply to @chemDrK, @HuntingEnglish
  • HelpfulScience Nov 5 @ 3:56 PM EST
    You might find Ch4 of this book of interest: https://t.co/wTqZIJjy2K - screenshot attached of slide from my CPD days where I summarise different "types" #ASEchat (I'm sure there's plenty out there that's more recent but I just found this a super helpful resource!)
    In reply to @chemDrK, @TheScienceBreak
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM EST
    DO you think anything is missing from this Guidance Report? What might the 8th recommendation be? ...or would you replace one of the current ones? #ASEchat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM EST
    Noooo!!! Same era, though... ;-) #ASEChat
    In reply to @SKLchem
  • oboelizzy Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM EST
    Apologies all - very very tired tonight, late meal cos OH late home and an early start tomorrow - so have missed this😢- really annoyed because looks like some stuff I have serious interest in!! #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM EST
    #ASEChat
    • HelpfulScience Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
      Indeed! First thing they do is make a topic page, full of pictures and words and names of people relevant to it - so they have some initial input. Then they write and draw everything they know about the topic, making links to their topic page. This is in a primary school.
      In reply to @chemDrK
  • aa_science Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM EST
    Be very keen to hear ideas on this. Current focus on meta cognition as part of TEEP #asechat
    In reply to @chemDrK, @LST_Physics, @HuntingEnglish
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM EST
    Great tip! #ASEChat
    • HollyWalshSci Nov 5 @ 3:52 PM EST
      I regularly point out words in exam questions that would “panic me” in the exam, and then go with “ok I’ll carry on reading to see if I can work it out”.
      In reply to @stevethedoc1, @chemDrK, @MrsHennah, @iinvestigateall
  • AJTF71 Nov 5 @ 3:58 PM EST
    I know, though exactly the same thing! Makes some excellent points and the main one for me is know the purpose of the practical #asechat
    In reply to @HollyWalshSci, @chemDrK, @TJohns85, @alomshaha
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 3:59 PM EST
    Can anyone help? Recommendation for Scientific books for pupils to read? #ASEChat
    • aa_science Nov 5 @ 3:54 PM EST
      @chemDrK @AmandaChalmers3 are there any scientific based books that we could recommend our students read (ideally that are on accelerated reader but not exclusively). I'm looking at promoting wider reading that isn't magazine's and journals #asechat
  • chemDrK Nov 5 @ 4:00 PM EST
    That's my time up! :-) Hope you found it useful/ interesting. Thanks to everyone who joined in. #ASEchat