#edchatME Archive
A Maine-based Twitter presence for a network of educators everywhere.
Monday May 1, 2017
8:30 PM EDT
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#EdChatME
! Tonight, let's talk about what SES can mean for our students, and what we can do to help them be successful in school.
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May 1 @ 8:30 PM EDT
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Let's do introductions first. What's your name, where do you work, and what's a positive thing that has happened to you this year?
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:31 PM EDT
I'm Erin, English T at OHCHS in South Paris, and this year I got a new job, which has proven to be an awesome change for me!
#EdChatME
EduGladiators
May 1 @ 8:33 PM EDT
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jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hey there
#EdChatME
, Jon Pratt, Asst Head for Academics
@foxcroftacademy
. Many blessings this year, including a new nephew ~3.5 months ago!
jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Jeff Bailey, Mountain Valley High School Rumford ME. I'm really enjoying teaching the new AP Computer Science Principles course.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q1: What is the general socioeconomic condition of your school district? Would you consider poverty a "major issue" for your Ss?
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:36 PM EDT
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MelissaElie
May 1 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I am Melissa, an ELA T at TMS in Turner. Positive has been working toward my masters at UMF in admin. Met many great fellow educators at UMF
In reply to @eringobragh29
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Nice! Curious to know what you & your Ss like best about it?
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In reply to @jbailey8
jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: Major issue for us. 90% free and reduced this year. Many needs including food and mental health.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Let's make sure we're all using the
#edchatme
hashtag so we can all see each others' ideas!
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Hi Melissa! Good to see you here tonight!
#edchatme
In reply to @MelissaElie
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Wowza! That's some percentage!!
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In reply to @jbailey8
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1: Moved to a school with a much higher concentration of low SES Ss. Pov. is a real, in-your-face issue here, but Ss are plucky!
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Ms_Levinsky
May 1 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Andrea from MSAD 51. We have a very low free/reduced lunch rate
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jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Our F&R percentage is lower than most surrounding districts, but still significant & impactful systemically.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:39 PM EDT
That's a really tough time of day for a lot of kids at my school, too.
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MelissaElie
May 1 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Def. a major issue. We have @ 45% free and reduced rate: Hunger greatly impacts many kids, especially in the period before lunch.
In reply to @eringobragh29
MelissaElie
May 1 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Sorry about not using the
#edchatme
. I am new to how to use Twitter.
In reply to @eringobragh29
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:40 PM EDT
That's lucky! I worked for nine years in a district with a much lower rate, and you can definitely see the difference!
#edchatme
In reply to @Ms_Levinsky
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:41 PM EDT
No worries! We're all on a learning curve in one way or another! Glad to have you with us!
#edchatme
In reply to @MelissaElie
MelissaElie
May 1 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I have found myself buying more snacks to have on hand than ever B4.
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Thanks for jumping into
#EdChatME
- def a helpful community when it comes to using Twitter to connect with other educators.
In reply to @MelissaElie, @eringobragh29
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:42 PM EDT
I often think that I need to do more of that. I end up pilfering my own snacks to share.
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In reply to @MelissaElie
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q2: What would you say is the biggest limitation placed upon students that come from a low SES household?
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jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Because of our high Free and Reduced we have "community eligibility" status. All students can eat free and snacks after school
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jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Saddening to think about the hunger some/many of our Ss experience when school isn't in session.
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In reply to @eringobragh29, @MelissaElie
Ms_Levinsky
May 1 @ 8:46 PM EDT
The Locker Project as also amazing!
https://t.co/b6BZkdttzd
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In reply to @eringobragh29, @MelissaElie
jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2: Often lack of stability and role models for continued education.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:46 PM EDT
So true. For some kids, vacations are so stressful. :(
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In reply to @jonpratt, @MelissaElie
Ms_Levinsky
May 1 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Helps to take away the stigma!
#edchatme
In reply to @jbailey8
Ms_Levinsky
May 1 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2: Not being able to focus on school because they have to focus on lower order needs
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: My Ss have huge time constraints, and many times learning isn't the priority. They don't always see ed. as their ticket out.
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andrewtwallace
May 1 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: If you are thinking about your next meal, or how you missed the last one, your focus on learning will be limited/impacted
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jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: some Ss do not have the ability to cope with stress as easily. Poverty can cause constant "fight or flight" response in brains
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Agreed. Some of them approach every day like it's a survival situation.
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In reply to @Ms_Levinsky
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:49 PM EDT
And in many households, the "fight" side of things is viewed as the better option, which can lead to a whole host of problems.
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In reply to @jbailey8
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:49 PM EDT
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MelissaElie
May 1 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Several: participating in after-school activities, (no rides, no equipment, etc) No money for laptop insurance, no internet at home#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29
jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2: Anyone here seen "Paper Tigers"? Great resource 4talking schools and Adverse Childhood Experiences.
https://t.co/8JBoUKYUTT
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jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2 Low SES can cause so much stress outside school that "productive struggle" we want in learning can be "the straw that breaks".
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jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A2: Transportation is a huge issue for our students and families.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:50 PM EDT
That looks really cool! Thanks for sharing!
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In reply to @jbailey8
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2 Students coming from poverty are assumed to be those that struggle w academically as well; important that Ts confront such bias
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q2: What would you say is the biggest limitation placed upon students that come from a low SES household?
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:53 PM EDT
It's a bias with a scary statistical foundation, though. I agree, we need to assess each student as an individual first!
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent
CoachKruse11
May 1 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A2: Ts assuming that poor family equals bad home life which may lead to struggling academics. Eliminate bias. Not always the case
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q2: What would you say is the biggest limitation placed upon students that come from a low SES household?
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 8:53 PM EDT
So true, especially in such large, rural geographical areas like Maine's ... low SES can cause isolation from community.
#EdChatME
In reply to @jbailey8
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Q3: Besides purchasing needed items, how might we as teachers contribute to leveling the playing field for our low SES students?
#EdChatME
andrewtwallace
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A2
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lower SES students often have other competing interests to school e.g. providing supervision for siblings, or working
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
And kids missing out on all sorts of opportunities for learning.
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In reply to @jonpratt, @jbailey8
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Another good film to pair w
@PaperTigersDoc
is
@BadKidsMovie
; streaming on Netflix right now
#notpreachy
#justreal
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jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Effect of poverty and education on businesses in Maine.
https://t.co/fKalXWqZP7
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WickedDecent
May 1 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3 Confront out bias about homework & completing homework as definition of what makes a "good student," we perpetuate stigma
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Q3: Besides purchasing needed items, how might we as teachers contribute to leveling the playing field for our low SES students?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Ugh, homework!! Compliance and learning are two entirely different things!
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In reply to @WickedDecent
Ms_Levinsky
May 1 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3: Not assigning homework or projects that require internet at home or purchase of materials
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3: Helping Ss to understand how to get the most from ed. Providing access to mentors/addtl. encouragement and guidance.
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A3 Maximizing student choice helps; allow students to learn from a place of their strengths
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Q3: Besides purchasing needed items, how might we as teachers contribute to leveling the playing field for our low SES students?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Agreed. Very simple consideration to make. Also showing Ss (if they have 1:1) how to access Google Docs offline is super easy.
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In reply to @Ms_Levinsky
jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A3: Providing consistency for Ss. Caring adults help everyone but may be more important for kids in low SES.
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WickedDecent
May 1 @ 8:59 PM EDT
And when we focus on compliance, we continue cycle of "us" v "them" & build more distrust; all Ss benefit from structure, not same
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Ugh, homework!! Compliance and learning are two entirely different things!
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Can also help with building routines in the classroom, for Ss whose lives may have elements of instability.
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In reply to @jbailey8
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:01 PM EDT
And we run into trouble when we equate consistency with rigidity and authority; be consistently kind & warm; consistently invested
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jbailey8
May 1 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A3: Providing consistency for Ss. Caring adults help everyone but may be more important for kids in low SES.
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jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A3: Need to build relationships with families in poverty. They don't need judgement, they need resources and empathy.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:01 PM EDT
I feel like a focus on compliance leads to school turning into a punishment.
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In reply to @WickedDecent
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Absolutely; routines and systems provide structure; breaking a routine doesn't need punitive responses -- esp for Ss of poverty
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Can also help with building routines in the classroom, for Ss whose lives may have elements of instability.
#edchatme
In reply to @jbailey8
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:02 PM EDT
This.
#edchat
#edchatme
#ruraledchat
jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A3: Need to build relationships with families in poverty. They don't need judgement, they need resources and empathy.
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Absolutely. And a clear picture of how the system works to support them going in, so that they can make the most of it.
#edchatme
In reply to @jbailey8
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Q4: Many low SES Ss take on an "adult" role at home. How might we help them to easily transition back to a "child" role at school?
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Imagine if we spent as much time helping Ss navigate the system as we do punishing them for not having "right" instincts
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In reply to @eringobragh29, @jbailey8
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Reading "A Framework for Understanding Poverty" and It's amazing. Never gave the "hidden rules" of society much thought until now.
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In reply to @WickedDecent, @jbailey8
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4 Got email from student today, asking to drop a class bc needs more time for in-school work. After school = taking care of sibs.
#EdChatME
jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5: Some Ss who have to take adult roles resent the lack of choices at school and see some rules as belittling. Be mindful
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WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4
#RigorousWhimsy
It's why opportunities for meaningful play are so important; provide Ss of poverty opps to explore
#edchatme
@amyburvall
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Q4: Many low SES Ss take on an "adult" role at home. How might we help them to easily transition back to a "child" role at school?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: It's important for my HS Ss to know I value their input. I need cooperation, but still want independent, critical thinking.
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:06 PM EDT
This might be my new favorite hashtag.
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent, @amyburvall
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:06 PM EDT
That was my first text on poverty; since learned of some controversies w her research AND still some good ideas in there
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In reply to @eringobragh29, @jbailey8
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Oh, there are some head scratchers in there, no doubt. True of any professional text, I guess. Haven't found the perfect one yet!
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent, @jbailey8
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:08 PM EDT
I'd recommend instead checking out work of
@donnabeegle
, esp since she's doing so much in our communities here right lately
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @jbailey8, @donnabeegle
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Love doing this, by the way. Pulled in loads of random toys and play doh and games and silliness this year. Always the best days.
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent, @amyburvall
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Will give it a look. It's always great to have multiple perspectives.
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent, @jbailey8, @donnabeegle
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:09 PM EDT
We did something just like that today to brainstorm ideas for our current design challenge
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @amyburvall
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:10 PM EDT
And our book
#plugplug
@IntentionBook
packed full of that sort of
#rigorouswhimsy
gloriousness; coming very soon from
@edtechteam
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @amyburvall, @IntentionBook, @edtechteam
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Love this. If I'm going to strive for any one thing every day, it should be mindfulness.
#edchatme
jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5: Some Ss who have to take adult roles resent the lack of choices at school and see some rules as belittling. Be mindful
#edchatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A4 cont Show Ss respect for out-of-school adult roles when making decisions abt their school experience. Don't break, but do bend.
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Never ceases to blow my mind how often we need to be reminded of this; another reason for restorative practices
#edchatme
jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5: Some Ss who have to take adult roles resent the lack of choices at school and see some rules as belittling. Be mindful
#edchatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q5: What is something that you've learned about your low SES Ss that caught you off guard? What do you wish you had known before?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT
AAH! How soon is very soon? Definitely need a copy of this one!
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent, @amyburvall, @IntentionBook, @edtechteam
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A thousand times yes!!! ❤️❤️❤️
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT
For great mindfulness resources, follow & engage w
@MindWise_CK
as well as
@knowKMD
#edchatme
#mindfulness
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Love this. If I'm going to strive for any one thing every day, it should be mindfulness.
#edchatme
jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5: Some Ss who have to take adult roles resent the lack of choices at school and see some rules as belittling. Be mindful
#edchatME
jbailey8
May 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A5: How much families in poverty value the power of story, and humor. Important to find those in our work.
#edchatME
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A5 I'm always taken aback when I learn just how many responsibilities some of my Ss w low SES have; shifted whole POV on homework
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eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q5: What is something that you've learned about your low SES Ss that caught you off guard? What do you wish you had known before?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A5: That there's so many of them who aren't able to just be kids. I try to give them more opportunities to be silly when I can.
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A4 Also, leverage adult roles at home for convos about mature in-school behaviors (like proactive comm v post-hoc explanations).
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Like . . soon . . seriously . . .
#meanit
#longtimeintheworks
#itshappening
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29, @amyburvall, @IntentionBook, @edtechteam
WickedDecent
May 1 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Another reminder to all who follow me to follow
@fmargret
if you know what's good for ya & you want
#gloriouseduoptimism
#edchat
#edchatme
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A thousand times yes!!! ❤️❤️❤️
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Also, let Ss know that school is an opportunity to let go of some of that responsibility for others and focus on themselves.
#edchatme
In reply to @jonpratt
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A5 Often such a dearth of travel experiences. Many have never been out of central Maine, let alone the state or country.
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q6:
#NextSteps
How might you change or adjust an upcoming lesson or activity to better acknowledge the SES of your students?
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Oh my gosh, yes! It's so surprising how insular some communities are!
#edchatme
In reply to @jonpratt
andrewtwallace
May 1 @ 9:22 PM EDT
It might be interesting to see how virtual/augmented
#VR
#AR
plays in this setting and with this audience
#edchatme
In reply to @jonpratt
jonpratt
- Moderator
May 1 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Reflecting on some of the "drama" I see in some Ss social lives. Maybe more complex than I've appreciated.
#EdChatME
In reply to @eringobragh29
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:23 PM EDT
(Thank you
#edchatme
for always welcoming me to your chat!! Louisiana loves y'all!!) -Margret, middle grades literature, Louisiana-
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A6: I'm working more contextual info into my novel units. Current Ss require more background/experiential knowledge.
#NextSteps
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I'm constantly contradicting myself. They're children. They're adults. They're children. They're adults. They're complicated!!
#edchatme
In reply to @jonpratt
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Yes, absolutely! I know that Google Culture Institute offers so much!
#edchatme
In reply to @andrewtwallace, @jonpratt
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yes! Reminder of self-efficacy and how that empowers choice
#edchatme
In reply to @jonpratt
eringobragh29
May 1 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining
#EdChatME
tonight! You'll find an archive of tonight's chat soon on our website:
https://t.co/gOZ11GyLgG
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Please keep up your
#plugplug
bc I need
@IntentionBook
!!!
#edchatme
In reply to @WickedDecent, @eringobragh29, @amyburvall, @IntentionBook, @edtechteam, @IntentionBook
fmargret
May 1 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Thank you for letting me join, late and far away!!!! :) super inspiring
#edchatme
In reply to @eringobragh29