#DevDiscuss Archive

Tuesday October 17, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    DevOps is a cultural and organizational style that moves most Ops responsibilities to Dev #devdiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    In a DevOps world developers are responsible to operate and monitor their software in production #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is: ✨ What's DevOps all about? ✨ 🤔
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Rules: - Stay on topic - ALWAYS ALWAYS use hashtag #DevDiscuss - Be NICE/POSITIVE ❤️ - Quoting tweets for clarity is encouraged
  • tr_stringer Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    #devdiscuss bridging the gap between development and operations with principles, procedures, and tooling
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    The next evolution will be SalesDevOps, where developers will need to sell their software too ( kidding 😂 ) #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Sorry I'm late. I was stuck in midtown, but the view was beautiful. #DevDiscuss
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Best answer ever. We can end it now. #DevDiscuss
    • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      The next evolution will be SalesDevOps, where developers will need to sell their software too ( kidding 😂 ) #DevDiscuss
  • xcentrik4 Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    DevOps is the grease that helps keep an AGILE team on track, focused on the work, not the details of HOW to do the work #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Question: How would you define DevOps? #DevDiscuss
  • Davkas2005 Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Agreed. If I had to deal with development, AND third party stuff, AND VMs, AND... Yeah, DevOps is good. :-) #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @xcentrik4
  • mrskellyvaughn Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Atlassian has a great resource for those who want to learn a thing or twenty about DevOps. It's a commitment. #DevDiscuss https://t.co/dPqn38MP8r
  • praGeek_ambani Oct 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Thanks for delaying. It is 06.44 AM here in India. Please check if you can schedule #devDiscuss at this time. We'll also be able to join. ☺️
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • steveglick_ Oct 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    If this becomes a thing I quit. #DevDiscuss #DevOps
    • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      The next evolution will be SalesDevOps, where developers will need to sell their software too ( kidding 😂 ) #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    The weird thing about programming is that the same term means different things to everyone. DevOps is one of those. #DevDiscuss
  • YGalanter Oct 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mistermocha Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    So there's my #devdiscuss thread
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    This term sprung up outside while I was indoors slinging code for a consulting company. My code ships and I never see it again. #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Things are usually defined in reference to where the industry came from before the thing was a thing. DevOps is one of those. #DevDiscuss
  • gdavis92 Oct 17 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    My understanding is that DevOps includes things like deployment, environment, CI, testing #devdiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    DevOps means something different in every company. For me it means you own deployment and maintenance of your prod stack #devdiscuss
  • R_acioly Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Spread the bug all over the servers automatically #DevDiscuss
  • wesgrimes Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss A better way of doing software development
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    DevOps living outside of the development team is very confusing to me. Does that work for others? #devdiscuss
  • steveglick_ Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    DevOps puts devs in operations positions which tend to be high pressure. There are a lot of good devs that are bad at this. #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    In buzzword terms, me and my company are "cloud native" which means I also think we're "devops native" by default #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    DevOps was born to avoid having to scale Ops linearly with Dev and to fill the gap between Devs and production environments #DevDiscuss
  • courtneyxann Oct 17 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I often see DevOps as SysAdmins allowing/enabling Developers to have a say in the server architecture and maintenance. #devdiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    To be very clear, DevOps requires a total context switch and skill set as well to be done well. #devdiscuss
  • IgnoreIntuition Oct 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Simply put DevOps is a model for building, testing, and delivering applications adhered to across an organization. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • t_sedgwick Oct 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    DevOps is the methodology that empowers developers to own the entire pipeline. Deeper understanding fosters better software. #DevDiscuss
  • thefredelement Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    DevOps is the architecture that support ops for developers, like CI, deployment, etc. Regardless of who implements it. #DevDiscuss
  • FCPaulDiaz Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Micro Services #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    One of the major problems with DevOps is that everyone has a different and often vague definition of it #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    No idea. I've seen the word floating around on high paying technical job description #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mohanarpit Oct 17 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Oct 17 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Not sure if it's a term/role I need to pay attention too or not. Seem back-end or management related #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Oct 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    #devdiscuss
    In reply to @mrxinu, @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Oct 17 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Here is, in my opinion, one of the best https://t.co/E4yHRJkeOg posts on tonight's #DevDiscuss topic https://t.co/2zi4xm9n7O Enjoy 😊
  • mohanarpit Oct 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    The philosophy of managing code you wrote leading to huge improvement in systems. #DevDiscuss
  • courtneyxann Oct 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    I don't think anyone really understands what DevOps is. There's so many loose definitions and implementations. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @mrxinu, @shannon_crabill, @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    An intentionally blurry line that both sides cross most days in getting work done together. #DevDiscuss
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Ack, I just realized I haven't been using the hashtag. I'm a bad bad tweeter. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    DevOps are conjoint twins with different ideas about their career paths, but they still get along. Most of the time. 🤣 #DevDiscuss
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Ditto. Almost op'd out but figured I'd let it run on the side in case I could chime in. So far it's replies and lulz. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @courtneyxann, @shannon_crabill, @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Oct 17 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Maybe it's just a buzzword, atm? Like, it's just a trendy word that gets used loosely to attract the cool devs? #devdiscuss
    In reply to @courtneyxann, @mrxinu, @ThePracticalDev
  • mohanarpit Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    #Devops is akin to everybody sweeping the street in front of their house. Guess how quickly people will stop littering #devdiscuss
  • cjbush Oct 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Another good idea coopted by pointyhaired bosses to try to cut $ by removing devs from the deployment process. #DevDiscuss #UnpopularOpinion
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    They're in your brain now! You tagged #DevDiscuss with #DevOps! 😂
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @courtneyxann, @ThePracticalDev
  • bruno_dsm Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Today is the day I’m going to learn lots of things from #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • iTMayzIII Oct 17 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    In my opinion, for whatever that’s worth. DevOps is all about streamlining developer operations by simplifying build processes, continuous delivery improvements, and basically anything that increases productivity. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • CKnickerbocker Oct 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    The cohesion between devs and ops. Personally speaking, leveraging a dev understanding through the process to make it flow. #devdiscuss
  • projectedxyz Oct 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    IMO DevOps is the intersection of people, infrastructure, and code wrapped in a process of continuous improvement #devdiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • jdanielcook Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Devs are responsible for the lifecycle of an application. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    DevOps: whatever you call your way of people working together to do things faster & better, not one silo handing off to another. #DevDiscuss
  • mrskellyvaughn Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Be a great multi-tasker, cattle-herder, accept that you'll forever have to explain what exactly it is that you do for a living #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    I'm going to go with being able to learn new things quickly/efficiently. I know it's low-hanging fruit, but dibs! #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • mohanarpit Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Sorta https://t.co/jcb6teGSTr pagers to developers improved the overall system overnight.Better logging,monitoring,fewer bugs #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @courtneyxann, @mrxinu, @ThePracticalDev
  • Programazing Oct 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Check out my website/blog at https://t.co/4DAQVTUa1s #DevDiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    You have to be 100% in on DevOps. You have to believe it, preach it, and be willing to convince others of it. #devdiscuss
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    My god I thought you figured out how to create links to arbitrary text for a minute. Nope. #DevDiscuss #FalseAlarm
    In reply to @mohanarpit, @shannon_crabill, @courtneyxann, @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    Be a people person that can actively listen, but also be assertive in telling people that things need to be done this way. #devdiscuss
  • CKnickerbocker Oct 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Have to be good w/people to deal w/everyone along the pipeline. Bringing dev skills to the ops side of thing helps a lot. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • mohanarpit Oct 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Laziness! Which in turns leads to better automation and more streamlined ops. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • projectedxyz Oct 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Comfort with ambiguity. Finish sentences. Document a value chain and communicate it to both devs and stakeholders. Learn cloud #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • kierclulow Oct 17 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    DevOps : All the fiddly hard stuff the developers don't want to do. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @Nick_Craver
  • DanCortes94 Oct 17 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss Soft skills and technicall skills, know how to do stuff and explain why to do it like that
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • phillipsj73 Oct 17 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Using @jezhumble "a cross-disciplinary community of practice dedicated to the study of building, evolving and operating..." #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @jezhumble
  • phillipsj73 Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    I can tell you it is not what Microsoft's marketing department is selling as DevOps. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    You have to love automating everything you possibly can. Managing the life of an application manually... #devdiscuss
  • probitious Oct 17 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A buzzword for sophisticated integration of sysops with developers #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • DanCortes94 Oct 17 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss DevOps is about knowing a little bit of everything to make sure nothing falls apart.
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • QEDunham Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Existential distaste for inefficiency in all its forms comes in handy for feeling satisfied w/ DevOps results & avoiding burnout #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • phillipsj73 Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    And this is the thing, it's not about software development, it's about Ops and Dev team working in harmony. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    This... is poetic. I love it so much. #DevDiscuss
    • QEDunham Oct 17 @ 9:52 PM EDT
      Existential distaste for inefficiency in all its forms comes in handy for feeling satisfied w/ DevOps results & avoiding burnout #DevDiscuss
      In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Loving to debug everything I guess, but I despise “devops” as a title. It's like saying “agile” or “waterfall” are job titles. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • QEDunham Oct 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Tech-wise, moderate proficiency in a language good for manipulating files&processes is essential for getting started #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • IgnoreIntuition Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    - Break apart complex systems & find patterns - Understand a wide breadth of technologies - Be humble & trust others expertise #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      What skills or personality traits would make someone a good fit for exploring devops as a career move? #DevDiscuss
  • mohanarpit Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Yes! It’s all about fostering the collaboration between teams. Much better fire-fighting capabilities. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @Nick_Craver
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    You must make amazing slide decks. 👍 #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @kylegalbraith
  • Nick_Craver Oct 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    It doesn’t mean one thing, but rather an idea, IMO. I tend to describe DevOps as an interface, not an implementation. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @phillipsj73
  • phillipsj73 Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    DevOps isn't a tool and there are no silver bullets. You want DevOps in your org, start eating lunch with your Ops team. #devdiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • rustbeltrae Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    everything that supports having confidence in daily*x deploys of your software product #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • phillipsj73 Oct 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Exactly, it's an abstract over the relationship between two teams that are traditionally pitted against easy other. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @Nick_Craver
  • mrxinu Oct 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I'm giving my first talk @pdxdevops later this month and I'm terrified. But it'll be okay right? They won't have rotten fruit. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
      In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • MrThomasRayner Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Make stuff better, faster, together. #DevOps #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • QEDunham Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Collaboration, monitoring, scaling, programming are all skill trees, problem-solving techniques in each are > individual tools #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • MrThomasRayner Oct 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss @DonovanBrown has a GREAT post about defining #DevOps https://t.co/9XgkubxQ1C
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @DonovanBrown
  • probitious Oct 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Laziness and the drive for quality automation #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev