#21stedchat Archive

Our mission for our 21st century chat is to create a positive 21st century learning environment for our students by sharing resources and ideas that has worked in our classrooms. Join us every Sunday from 8:00-9:00 PM (EST) on Twitter using the hashtag #21stedchat. All are welcome!

Sunday April 15, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • MEMSPAchat Apr 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Come join #MEMSPAchat - a leading ed chat on Thursday at 8pm EST @Edu_Thompson #21stedchat Join the leading, learning & collaboration!
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #21stedchat Tonight are we creating caste systems in edu?
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Please intro yourselves. #21stEdChat
  • julia_imbesi Apr 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Hey guys my name is Julia and I am a preservice teacher at Grove City College. Really interested to learn about the 21st century education! #21stedchat #gccedu
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    I am Jill from NC, Director of Personalized Digital Learning and #21stedchat co-creator.
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Nathan #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Dave HS Sci Teacher from MI. @Edu_Thompson cohost of #21stEdChat
  • tryingteacher Apr 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I am Michael. I teach high school ELA in North Providence, RI, and serve as an adjunct faculty member at @johnsonandwales in Providence. I also work with @PopClassroom belong bring comics and film into the classroom #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I would place all the #”edu Rock Stars” in the bottom level. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    We use the Q & A method to move the conversation...if my Tweetdeck doesn't freeze. #21stedchat
  • LaneWalker2 Apr 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hello, from Greater StLouis. I teach HS math w/inquiry-based learning & STEM integration. #ecet2 #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Nathan 4th string retweeter for #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Make sure you always include the #21stedchat tag in your response and use A1...etc. Thanks
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Q1 coming up #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    A1 we all know that @pernilleripp is the top of the edu pyramid #21stedchat
  • Dale_Chu Apr 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @Edu_Thompson and @dprindle ask, “Are we creating a caste system in education?” Follow along at #21stedchat!
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Q1: Do you think a caste or class system is present in US or schools in your countries? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1 yes. Some folks are celebrated for not much and those who are paving the way get ignored #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1 for both teachers and students #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    I was thinking in terms of students but you think there is one for teachers too? #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1 yes because not enough people celebrate @Edu_Thompson across the country #21stedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: I think there is a very real class system in education in Canada. The disparity between rural and First Nations education and urban education is enormous. And kept going with technology gaps. It’s why we are educators: to change this and create equity. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    I wasn’t sure which way but yes for both #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • julia_imbesi Apr 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Do you think that is in all schools or more so schools with low socioeconomic status? Primarily based on location? #21stEdchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    How many students get labeled because something a sibling did or lets one little define them for a whole year #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    I faced the same thing when I taught in the villages of Alaska 20+ years ago and judging from the papers now it is a tech and access to the internet issue #21stedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    I don't want to be celebrated, I want people to be inspired. Tomorrow we host 200 educators from all over to see our PL schools in action, all our work is open to the public because we are all in this together! #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Hmm. I didn’t think about teacher class system. But it is there. Think about who is presenting keynotes at conferences. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • annmariastat Apr 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Q1: In the US, I'd say 100% yes. Private schools on the West Side & public schools in downtown LA are like a different country. #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    It can be in most schools. You can see the favorites #21stEdChat
    In reply to @julia_imbesi, @dprindle
  • LaneWalker2 Apr 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Can you say more about this #21stedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 yes, although each state handles it differently #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Q2: Coming up next. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    I agree with Bryn. You know the teachers that are the favorites #21stEdChat
    In reply to @LaneWalker2, @brynmw, @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Q2: Think about the students in your school are the AP students treated differently than the "career" track kids? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Well I will celebrate you #21stEdChat #celebrateJill
    In reply to @Edu_Thompson
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    We seem to get edu-rockstars, but there are so many amazing educators who share their work with students. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @LaneWalker2, @nathan_stevens, @dprindle
  • AssignmentHelpN Apr 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Steven Weber, Fayetteville, Arkansas #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Yes people? #21stedchat Go along to get along?
    In reply to @LaneWalker2, @nathan_stevens, @brynmw
  • LaneWalker2 Apr 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    a2 Expectations are different for honors Ss. Those classes tend to be easier to manage as the Ss often self-regulate. #21stedchat
  • annmariastat Apr 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A1: So true. My 3 kids were in school in Santa Monica, same age as my friend's 3 kids on a reservation. The level of math courses, AP classes, SAT prep offered was night and day. #21stedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    They are the yes people who will try anything the admin ask even if it is not helpful #21stEdChat
    In reply to @LaneWalker2, @brynmw, @dprindle
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: AP students have their own pressures and expectations, just like the other students. I think it’s about knowing your students, not their ‘class’. All want success and can achieve when supported by a caring adult. #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Could it be based on the number of students? I taught all the Sci for grades 4-12 and Math 6-12 in a K-12 school of only 96 kids. #21stedchat
    In reply to @annmariastat, @brynmw
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: Educators need to focus on Habits of Mind, High Yield Instructional Strategies, Formative Assessment, Timely Feedback, & Interventions/Scaffolding. These things should take place in standard-level classes and AP classes. #21stedchat
  • SamanthaRea12 Apr 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A1. Yes absolutely. Some students receive special treatments or more attention due to certain privileges or the backgrounds they come from. #21stEdChat
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2 Charter schools help make it so :( #21stedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Either way (size of school, equitable access), there must be a way to break the education cycle. Give potential opportunity. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle, @annmariastat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    The edu-Sherpa is here #21stEdChat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    In some schools it is based on socio-economic sadly. I have heard teachers say they're the trailer park kids. That makes me angry. #21stedchat
    In reply to @SamanthaRea12
  • safarnum Apr 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A1: I once dropped off a job app at an inner city school. I had to speak to the admin asst through plexiglass after being buzzed in. There was no playground. In my dist 30 mins away every S K-12 gets an iPad. Musicians play during lunch monthly. That’s a class system #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2 depends some of those AP kids are a pain in the tookus #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • annmariastat Apr 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    In the particular schools, no. My kids went to small Catholic schools that had about the same number of students ~80 students per grade in h.s. and their elementary/MS was actually somewhat bigger #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle, @brynmw
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    You think charter schools are a problem? Not defending them but sometimes it is a way up for inner city kids...but at the expense of the public schools. #21stedchat
    In reply to @ZSharon
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2 they are treated differently even though some may behave the same. Give me th career track students #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    I agree. I teach the career track and at risk kids. #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Depends on the community :) #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Rt of Q2: Think about the students in your school are the AP students treated differently than the "career" track kids? #21stEdChat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Q3: How can we as admin and teachers help change these situation? It seems it would have to be intentional even if the caste system created was unintentional? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3 give all teachers equal tasks to allow everyone to shine. Or have every edu person in the room talk about something awesome they are doing #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3: Start by analyzing the “Hidden Curriculum” in your school https://t.co/YL9I5bgisc #21stedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    When labels are placed on students, that’s all some can see. It blinds them to who they really are as individual learners. Our role is to remove those labels, not highlight them. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle, @SamanthaRea12
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Elaborate please... #21stedchat
    In reply to @curriculumblog
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Side point: I’m not entirely sure the creation of the school class system was unintentional. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3 I'm not convinced teachers or even admin are the ones who are responsible. We have major inequities in funding. We all deserve better. #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    So you think they are intentionally created? Even within buildings? #21stedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    True. Looking at that hidden curriculum (also heard it as shadow curriculum) really shines a light on our biases. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @curriculumblog
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3: There are some immediate solutions: 1. Identify Learning Targets 2. Backwards Map/Plan 3. Use High-Yield Instructional Strategies 4.Use Formative Assessment 5. Personalized Learning 6. Teach towards Transfer Goals 7. Ask students to demonstrate understanding #21stedchat
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Can you explain what you mean by "hidden curriculum"? #21stedchat
    In reply to @curriculumblog
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Q4: What should admins do with teachers that will only teach the "good" kids or AP classes? Or can they? #21stedchat
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Opportunity to Learn is created by teachers and administrators. Funding and school supplies are an issue, but educators/adults control OTL. #21stedchat
    In reply to @ZSharon
  • SamanthaRea12 Apr 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A2: Sadly, students who are jumping right into a career after school are sort of “pushed through” or not taken as seriously as students who are aiming to pursue higher education. I see this is schools now and it was this way when I was in school too. #21stedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Not by those in the building, but choices on funding, hiring, physical building maintenance are all@made by district and those choices often favor those with political voice. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4 sometimes that is how you keep some teachers. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • LaneWalker2 Apr 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    This may be changing as microcredentialing becomes more well known and understood. We're now coordinating internships for HS Jrs. #21stedchat
    In reply to @SamanthaRea12
  • SamanthaRea12 Apr 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A3: Yes it will have to be intentional and it’s about showing up each and every day with intentions to remove biases. Teachers should constantly be aiming to foster an environment that supports ALL types of students. #21stedchat
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    It is explained in the article. This is the things in schools that impact teaching and learning. Examples: Walls, Messages Sent To Students, Grading Practices, Compliance vs Student Contribution, Library Books/Options, and Teacher/Student Relationships #21stedchat
    In reply to @ZSharon
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: in my province, the teaching loaf of teachers is completely the purview of the administrator in the building. (Based on student and school need and undo hardship to teacher) #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    What I am asking is what about the teachers that won't take the "hard" kids? #21stedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    I learn something from Steven every time I talk to him #21stEdChat
    • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      It is explained in the article. This is the things in schools that impact teaching and learning. Examples: Walls, Messages Sent To Students, Grading Practices, Compliance vs Student Contribution, Library Books/Options, and Teacher/Student Relationships #21stedchat
      In reply to @ZSharon
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Q5 Coming up #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Some of those items I thought were pretty obvious and Not hidden #21stEdChat
    In reply to @curriculumblog, @ZSharon
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Thanks, Nathan! #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Q5: How can we as teachers change the system inside our school buildings if a class system exists? #21stedchat
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    That’s true. Several of the barriers to teaching and learning are obvious. They are not obvious to the school staff. That is why Glatthorn used the term “Hidden Curriculum.” #21stedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ZSharon
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Sorry #21stedchat members for not being as active as I normally am...we lost power and it is hard on a phone. ;-)
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5 volunteer for things. Be a model. Don’t let others shut you out #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A couple of those terms I didn’t thing about #21stEdChat
    In reply to @curriculumblog, @ZSharon
  • SamanthaRea12 Apr 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4: Keeping conversations going about WHY all students deserve to be believed in could help. #21stedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    If a teacher has the mindset that the kid is hard, then that’s a problem. At my school, we create classes (elementary) and I, as admin, assign teachers to the classes. There can be a desire to not place a certain teacher with a certain student for ‘peace’ #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Thank you :) Looks like I have something new to research. #21stedchat
    In reply to @curriculumblog, @nathan_stevens
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Next time we are together I will show you how I chat on the phone #21stEdChat
    In reply to @Edu_Thompson
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A5: Use a Force Field Analysis. As a school team, identify the barriers. Identify ways to remove the barriers. #21stEdChat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    But again, I’d want to change the mindset to ‘they are all our students, whether in my classroom or not’. #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    You had me at force field #21stEdChat
    In reply to @curriculumblog
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Force Field Analysis https://t.co/OHNJBmYaKT #21stedchat
  • annmariastat Apr 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A3: I teach graduate students. When there are conferences, scholarship opportunities, I send out notices to ALL of the students. I don't select who I think is most likely to apply or most likely to succeed #21stEdChat
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5 I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, highlighting the different castes can be illuminating - but they also can put Ss into boxes. #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q6: Coming up #21stedchat
  • cybraryman1 Apr 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5 I was part of a group of young teachers who got together and changed the culture of our school which had faced a pelthora of problems. See: My School Culture page https://t.co/nukenyKH4r #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5 sometimes you are locked in and can’t do much #21stedchat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q6: Do state standards and standardized tests contribute to the caste/class systems? #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6 definitely can create labels. You are this or you are that #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6: Standards are not the problem. I don’t think every third grade teacher in the U.S. should determine what students should know and be able to do. #21stEdChat
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6 Yikes, that's a complicated question amidst a quagmire of possibilities :) #21stedchat
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A6: Standards provide school districts with a GPS. The local curriculum should support student understanding. The problem is with decisions made at the district level and a lack of instructional leadership. #21stEdChat
  • Dale_Chu Apr 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A6: I would say that they shine a spotlight on the inequities that exist rather than being the cause for them. #21stedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Definitely a wonderful chat when someone drops “quagmire” #21stEdChat
    In reply to @ZSharon
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Amen to that! I know this from my experience as an instructional designer. #21stedchat
    In reply to @curriculumblog
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Q7: What are your takeaways from tonight? @Edu_Thompson topic for next week will post soon. #21stedchat
  • SamanthaRea12 Apr 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A5: Teachers can always do something even if it starts out as small steps. #21stEdChat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A7 that there are many factors out there that can label a student or teacher #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle, @Edu_Thompson
  • Edu_Thompson - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Thank you for joining #21stedchat Join us next week as we discuss English Language Learners (ELL) on Sunday at 8:00pm EST.
  • ZSharon Apr 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A7 When working in the law, I concurred that you get as much justice as you can afford. Saddens me that this notion is spreading to education. Thankfully, new edtech tools might help level the playing field #21stedchat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Based on @nathan_stevens comments tonight we may discuss the teacher class system in the future. Great chat again everyone. Join @Edu_Thompson as we discuss ELL's next week. #21stedchat
  • curriculumblog Apr 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A7: Great Chat! Teachers and administrators do not control a student’s readiness level, Home life, or income. Educators determine Opportunity To Learn (OTL), Formative Assessment, and the Hidden Curriculum. #21stEdChat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I am glad to provide new topics for other chats as I try to figure out what to talk about for tomorrow night’s #edtechchat #21stEdChat
    In reply to @dprindle, @Edu_Thompson
  • SamanthaRea12 Apr 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A6: yes, absolutely! Standardized tests are often only highlighting certain skills. #21stEdChat
  • dprindle - Moderator Apr 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Have a great week everyone #21stedchat