#DevDiscuss Archive


Tuesday November 15, 2016
9:00 PM EST

  • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
    The sixth #DevDiscuss is starting now This week's topic: Imposter Syndrome
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Rules: - Stay on topic - ALWAYS use the hashtag #DevDiscuss - Be NICE/POSITIVE ❤️ - Quoting other tweets for clarity is encouraged
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Alright, let's do this @ThePracticalDev #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    I repeatedly feel inadequate. I hear from peers the respect they have for me, but I always assume I know less than others #DevDiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    I'm beginning of my career -- learning to code and there's no point where someone shakes your hand and says congrats u a dev #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    You see other people as "experts". You know exactly what they know, but still find yourself second guessing. #DevDiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    So at what point do you say you're a dev, or that know how to code? I'm pretty painfully conscious of how much I don't know #devdiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I run @ThePracticalDev, have lots to think and say about code, and I'm still terrified in group settings that I'll look foolish #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • AlekstheRealist Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Imposter syndrome can be really demotivating that's why you must persist and keep learning to build your skill set #DevDiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I was self taught. I don't know what some terms mean, or what that thing is called exactly. I always feel inferior. #DevDiscuss
  • andrewmrobbins Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Ways to combat imposter syndrome: 1. Study your language indepth 2. Build real applications 3. Repeat #DevDiscuss https://t.co/OiWy6T1LWA
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • stefania_kaz Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I don't have an engineering degree ergo I cannot dev to some people. #DevDiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    What gets more crazy, is when you hear something you know is wrong, but hen question yourself. #DevDiscuss
  • slatermaus Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev I'm self-taught. Even a year after I got my first gig, I still felt weird. #devdiscuss It mostly went away for me
    In reply to @klovae, @ThePracticalDev
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Sorry, was thus imposter syndrome, or the low self esteem support group. Stop me whenever 😬 #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Podcasts are tremendously important for me in overcoming imposter syndrome. Just being a fly on the wall helps so much #DevDiscuss
  • sam_spills Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    The worst thing about imposter syndrome is that even though I've read about it, I still feel like a Real Imposter #devdiscuss
  • chaos_goose Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I never knew that so many other developers have at some point been hit with impostor syndrome #DevDiscuss
  • kriskend Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    All groups deal with imposter syndrome, but I find it disproportionately affects some diversity groups #devdiscuss
  • wesbaker Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Imposter syndrome gets stronger with time, but you also learn to live with it. It becomes a companion of sorts. #devdiscuss
  • mbaltrusitis Nov 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I take this one stop further & question reality as I know it when I hear something that is so obviously wrong #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @kellyjandrews
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Same. I've even dealt with it in previous work -- like someone's gonna find me out and be like "who let her in here??" #devdiscuss
    • sam_spills Nov 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
      The worst thing about imposter syndrome is that even though I've read about it, I still feel like a Real Imposter #devdiscuss
  • corinna000 Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss I'm self taught and don't value my own knowledge thus I often assume everyone knows what I know.
    In reply to @kellyjandrews
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Could you elaborate on this? I always kind of expected the opposite. #devdiscuss
    • wesbaker Nov 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
      Imposter syndrome gets stronger with time, but you also learn to live with it. It becomes a companion of sorts. #devdiscuss
  • actualtentacle Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I don't have a public portfolio so I must look like an amateur #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    There are like a million terms/concepts in programming, and there's this unrealistic pressure to be familiar with all of them. #DevDiscuss
  • MrWesDunn Nov 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I've been a PM for 2 years and have played part-time dev to help get things done and often wonder whether my efforts are useful #devdiscuss
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I find one thing that helps me with Impostor Syndrome, helping out others who know less than me about a particular topic #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I get up and speak at conferences and worry everything I'm about to say is just inaccurate. I've not once been told this #DevDiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    College prepped me well for tech, but less so for soft skills. Feigned functional in a dysfunctional job. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    ah yeah that makes sense; the whole "the more you know, the more you know you don't know" thing. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @wesbaker
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    helps you realize that no matter how little you know, you know SOMETHING that someone else doesn't #devdiscuss
    In reply to @yechielk
  • sonuvagunder Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    I first heard about impostor syndrome in @davidwalshblog https://t.co/fUkzt0HsGY. It was encouraging to read. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @davidwalshblog
  • mtj3 Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Yeah it took me a while to feel like I was ready to jump from beginner level to intermediate level bc of imposter syndrome #devdiscuss
  • itsradditude Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Relevant link for tonight's #devdiscuss https://t.co/bOjEJW1PnR
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Yooooo this. #devdiscuss
    • sam_spills Nov 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
      I've worked in two fairly different fields and am sometimes even scared to talk about it for fear that people will "catch on"
      In reply to @klovae
  • kriskend Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I work on a team of rockstars, and it can be very intimidating especially when I ask for help like every day #devdiscuss
  • andrewmrobbins Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    1. Ive noticed there seems to be a superiority complex in the dev community where other devs try to sound smarter than others #devdiscuss
  • ayke_is_king Nov 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    what is imposter syndrome? #DevDiscuss
  • 5paceToast Nov 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Imposter syndrome: "I'm not good, everyone else is just a lot worse" #devdiscuss
  • andrewmrobbins Nov 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    2. Where it comes from I don’t know. However if you become comfortable with accepting that you don’t know things, that helps. #devdiscuss
  • andrewmrobbins Nov 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    3. Plus people will like you more :) #devdiscuss
  • mobbsdev Nov 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I'm an MIS student trying to break into CS...After countless failed applications, imposter syndrome doesn't begin to describe it #DevDiscuss
  • itsradditude Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Those fundamentals are important, but don't require a degree to learn. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @stefania_kaz, @MuscoviteBob, @ThePracticalDev
  • eliezerbernart Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Everytime you reach some expertise level, you start looking to more difficult things to do and to learn #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    This applies pretty well to tonight's #DevDiscuss about imposter syndrome 😊 Many of these covers are about imposter syndrome, really.
  • mobbsdev Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Those of you who have gotten to CS on a non-traditional path, where did you come from and how long did it take you? #DevDiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    for me it's that sinking feeling that someone's going to figure out that I don't know anything/don't belong #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ayke_is_king
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    that's spot on #devdiscuss
    In reply to @klovae, @wesbaker
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    not understanding fundamentals can sink a project regardless of "junior" vs. "senior" #devdiscuss
    In reply to @stefania_kaz, @ThePracticalDev
  • jon_bristow Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    With an Anxiety disorder, the meds help power through it, but it doesn’t make it go away. #DevDiscuss
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I don't see it so much a superiority complex as an inferiority complex #devdiscuss
    In reply to @andrewmrobbins
  • io_exception Nov 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    In the past I let go projects because I didn't felt prepared enough, even though I was #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    In such a fast moving field, it's easy to focus on the lot you don't have rather than the little you do... #devdiscuss
    In reply to @andrewmrobbins
  • MrWesDunn Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    #devdiscuss podcasts have been a fantastic way for me to inform myself as a PM and write better requirements for devs
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • eliezerbernart Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    But it loops forever, doesn't matter how much you advance, always seems you are halfway and needs to compensate to be on the top #DevDiscuss
  • phallstrom Nov 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    it's also imho a somewhat healthy reality check from time to time. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @wesbaker
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Fake it til you make it, amiright? #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • FooBartn Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I'm a principal/lead on my team, but have been nervous outside that. Delete more blog posts than I pub. Social-media-ly awkward. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • dankim Nov 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    There are so many talks, blog posts, podcasts and more that it always seems like others know more than you. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • co0lsky Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Overcoming it by start helping people online with my programming skills. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • sam_spills Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I'd love to get some podcast recommendations up in here!! #devdiscuss
    In reply to @MrWesDunn, @bendhalpern
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Imposter syndrome has been a huge limiting factor for me with open source. Really hard to tell if you're "doing it right" #DevDiscuss
  • io_exception Nov 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Whatever you do to overcome the Impostor Syndrome, never brag or try to make feel less other devs. #DevDiscuss.
  • wesbaker Nov 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    yeah, it’s a helpful reminder to brush up and keep current. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @phallstrom
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Yeah. All these amazing devs surely doing this better than me. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • JT_Grimes Nov 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I'm self-taught and I've worked as a solo dev for 5+ yrs but since no one has validated me, I still think I'm a junior. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I'd love to hear more about this -- open source seems to be a common avenue ppl point to for getting more xp #devdiscuss
    • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
      Imposter syndrome has been a huge limiting factor for me with open source. Really hard to tell if you're "doing it right" #DevDiscuss
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Be part of the solution, not the problem! #devdiscuss
    • io_exception Nov 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
      Whatever you do to overcome the Impostor Syndrome, never brag or try to make feel less other devs. #DevDiscuss.
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I do find those who don't have IS in some way are oblivious to their own failings. #DevDiscuss
  • sdaas Nov 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Great thread on imposter syndrome faced by software developers. See #DevDiscuss.
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
    1) programming basics (branching/looping/IO…) 2) debugging/profiling 3) how to learn & synthesize #devdiscuss
    In reply to @freezascom, @ThePracticalDev
  • WesWedding Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss Can't contribute to this discussion lest everyone realize how little I might know.
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    IS, in healthy doses of course, can be a healthy reality check #devdiscuss
  • cathodion Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #devdiscuss tbh I don't remember experiencing impostor syndrome until i found myself in the position of lead dev.
  • kriskend Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    The meritocracy of many open source communities makes imposter syndrome especially harmful #devdiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • MrWesDunn Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #devdiscuss Software Engineering Daily and Does Not Compute have been favorites of mine
    In reply to @sam_spills
  • vi_charan Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev It's hard to talk to, discuss w/, question well experienced developers especially in tech meetups #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    People who do good open source work just seem like super heroes, it's tough to feel like you belong. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @klovae
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Constant practice. Read everything. Keep trying. Eventually it clicks. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @coachtscott
  • cathodion Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #devdiscuss Became a lead dev through attrition. Didn't know how to be a lead dev, but felt that asking for help would reveal my weakness.
  • jmdembe Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I’m a woman, a POC, & jumping in w/ no CS degree. If someone were to say I am an imposter, I would be like “what took so long?" #DevDiscuss
  • poofichu Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I am technically a designer but am not a good enough developer to deliver production level code #devdiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    The "Science" part of Computer Science doesn't change much or rely on the tech, easing new learning. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @stefania_kaz
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I was the 'lead-dev' in our office for a while. I had left uni a year ago working with people who had been doing this for years #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I think you could also call it "being humble" #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @yechielk
  • vi_charan Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev I see many devs talking to themselves in tech meetups #devdiscuss #impostorsyndrome
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • FooBartn Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #devdiscuss
    • FooBartn Nov 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Effects me on a daily basis, but I'm a #WIP. Constantly have to tell myself to just put it out there. Lucky to be part of kind communities
  • yard_salad Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I realized today I have fully internalized the corporate fear I used to loathe in others #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    @DevDiscussHQ what people don't realize about impostor syndrome is that it keeps us from doing things we're interested in #devdiscuss (1/?)
    In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    But with a strong/encouraging community, can also be helpful to learn new/better ways of doing things. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @kriskend
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Tight knit groups too - its like jumping in on a conversation you weren't invited to. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern, @klovae
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    It as the scariest thing to be 'in charge' when I had so little experience, social anxiety, and terrible inter-personal skills. #devdiscuss
  • Rubberduck203 Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Okay. Let's talk about #impostorsyndrome for #devdiscuss. I'm an impostor. I have no business giving anyone advice. Yet I do it everyday. 🔜
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • appeltel Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    The only truly important skill is the ability to pick up new ones. The perpetual learner is more valuable than the expert. #DevDiscuss
  • itsradditude Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Thanks! Quoting so I can find these later. #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    that's the crazy thing. No one will ever actually say that. They may be standing there doubting themselves. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • Alrecenk Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    .@ThePracticalDev I study constantly, but I'm goofy, so I'm underestimated.I give others imposter syndrome as a stealth expert. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    True, but everything sounds better with an official sounding "syndrome" :) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @kellyjandrews
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I had so little confidence that what I was doing was good. I felt like every single decision I was making was being judged #devdiscuss
  • jmdembe Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Of course, I say it in a joking way, but that’s what it is for me. #devdiscuss
  • Rubberduck203 Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev I dropped out of an e-Com program over a dozen years ago. Got started in professional development via #vba. #devdiscuss 🔜
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • TheLarkInn Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    #ImposterSyndrome is a recursive experience no matter how long you dev. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @kellyjandrews, @jmdembe
  • MrWesDunn Nov 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    #devdiscuss I feel you on that. I'm a PM on a small team and can feel like I shouldn't have an opinion. Openness to discuss is key
    In reply to @poofichu
  • eliezerbernart Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    It's all about how u measure your achievements. Github stars? How can you measure yourself without comparing with someone else? #DevDiscuss
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Luckily(or otherwise) I had a really bad bout of depression; and I said "I can't deal with this; I'd prefer to be a line-dev" #devdiscuss
  • davywybiral Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss it took me more than 10 years to realize that I will never "master" software development. I envy the naive me.
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • DamJess Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Moved from art degree to communications career now software development. Oft paralyzed by feeling less than #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • EduGladiators Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    💡Don't miss the last #EduGladiators chat of the series focused on Curious Thinkers #ecechat #worldgeochat #TWOTCW #teachwriting #devdiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    When more senior devs acknowledge how difficult this whole coding thing can be, it really helps melt away my imposter syndrome #DevDiscuss
  • WesWedding Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss Generally been able to avoid much impostor syndrome, but follwoing Developer-aimed Twitter feeds has made it spike dramatically.
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Mental health issues add such an extra layer of complication #devdiscuss
    • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
      Luckily(or otherwise) I had a really bad bout of depression; and I said "I can't deal with this; I'd prefer to be a line-dev" #devdiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Big O matters more when transitioning from proof-of-concept to production. But even then, profile before coding. 😉 #devdiscuss
    In reply to @stefania_kaz
  • mrm8488 Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev I've seen ppl with CS degree and no idea about CS and ppl without CS degree who master in CS. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe, @ThePracticalDev
  • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Then implicit bias steps in. Oh, you're a girl? You must be organized. You must be a good communicator. Etc. (3/?) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Now I worry that I'm working on things too slowly, I'm implementing them badly, or generally f*ing up without having mgmt role #devdiscuss
  • metageeky Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    As a transwoman, I can't say emphatically enough how much imposter syndrome became more pronounced after I transitioned #DevDiscuss
  • NazeefaFatima Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    😀🙈 #DevDiscuss https://t.co/Adl1FmS3Rm
    • NazeefaFatima Apr 26 @ 9:41 AM EDT
      changing your text editor background colour to black & pretending that you're a programmer when in fact you're sorting out DNA sequences :|
  • FooBartn Nov 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Helping other people helped me. On a forum, reddit, etc. There are always ppl who know more. You're that to someone else. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    You end up doing the same stuff. No one believes you can do something valuable until you believe in yourself (4/?) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • Rubberduck203 Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I have a blog and lots of followers here on #twitter, but no one should listen to me. I'm just sharing my exp. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • sam_spills Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I think even discussions like this do a massive amount to help "normalize" the feeling - IS can be so isolating #devdiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • littlebirdgirl Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    It always feels like your failures are the ones that get remembered the most. Not true at all but it makes you TERRIFIED to risk #devdiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    1) gets you started 2) helps you find problems 3) helps you find solutions The rest is details. 😉 #devdiscuss
    In reply to @freezascom, @ThePracticalDev
  • MrWesDunn Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Reading this #devdiscuss makes me realize how effective open discussion can be, solving problems is tough when communication is lacking
  • MightyPupil Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #devdiscuss impostor syndrome has wreaked havoc on job search for over a year. "the market is so hot!" they insist
  • wesbaker Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    if you look at code you wrote a year ago with some level of disgust, I think you’re doing just fine. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @eliezerbernart
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    This whole thread tho: #devdiscuss
    • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
      @DevDiscussHQ what people don't realize about impostor syndrome is that it keeps us from doing things we're interested in #devdiscuss (1/?)
      In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    And you can't believe in yourself when you feel like those around you don't believe in you (5/5) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • metageeky Nov 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Mainly because I no longer could walk in with assumed competency about my skills. I always had to prove it. #DevDiscuss
  • Rubberduck203 Nov 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    and yet I get up and do my job every day. I'm great at it, but I'll never ever feel great at it. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Wow; talking about work experiences is hard; harder than talking about my mental health issues. I'm glad I did though. #devdiscuss
  • littlebirdgirl Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    When you're the only one on your team that looks like you, it's harder to know you really belong there. DIVERSIFY YOUR DEVS. #devdiscuss
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Awesome thought, YOU be the benchmark for your own progress! #devdiscuss
    In reply to @wesbaker, @eliezerbernart
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Hello @ me in every job ever. #devdiscuss
    • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
      Then implicit bias steps in. Oh, you're a girl? You must be organized. You must be a good communicator. Etc. (3/?) #devdiscuss
      In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    But as long as you're learning new stuff and incorporating the useful, you're improving. 👍 #devdiscuss
    In reply to @Rubberduck203, @ThePracticalDev
  • yechielk Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    On a lighter note, if you really want to feel like an impostor: https://t.co/t4aV5lZHMR #devdiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    how do you break this particular cycle? #devdiscuss
    In reply to @misskallisto, @DevDiscussHQ
  • eliezerbernart Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    but sometimes work is much more meta than coding. Knocking your head on the wall to think in some efficient solution #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @wesbaker
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    You realize that everyone is second guessing themselves, and code makes all of is question life choices at some point #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    You realize that everyone is second guessing themselves, and code makes all of us question life choices at some point #devdiscuss
  • wesbaker Nov 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Sure, but that’s when it’s best to own up to not knowing everything (because you can’t) and ask others for help #devdiscuss
    In reply to @eliezerbernart
  • Rubberduck203 Nov 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    the reason I'm any good at all is because #impostorsyndrome keeps me learning. #devdiscuss @ThePracticalDev
    In reply to @gumnos, @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Imposter syndrome is a huge reason I've never felt comfortable with pair programming. Alone, I'm more comfortable not knowing #DevDiscuss
  • recursivefaults Nov 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Safety and the celebration of trying are antidotes to the imposter syndrome. #devdiscuss
  • 8vius Nov 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss I'm the lead dev and everytime a new dev comes along I get anxious. I've learned to accept that I'll never be the best though.
  • metageeky Nov 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
    However, people stopped questioning my interest in usability, accessibility UX, etc. #DevDiscuss
  • sam_spills Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Great description of the cycle of imposter syndrome here! #devdiscuss
    • misskallisto Nov 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
      @DevDiscussHQ what people don't realize about impostor syndrome is that it keeps us from doing things we're interested in #devdiscuss (1/?)
      In reply to @DevDiscussHQ
  • thedoh Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    We have a guideline on our ops team: if you're stuck for 15 minutes, ask for help. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    we have a trophy for blowing things up. It passes amongst all of us. We all fail sometimes, and that's ok #devdiscuss
    In reply to @recursivefaults
  • alluneediscode Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I often feel like I have to be ready to defend ideas I offer other devs. Be absolutely sure before speaking. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Dmitrix_ Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I'm about to get a CS degree and I still feel like a n00b. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @ThePracticalDev
  • itsradditude Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I'm seeing a common thread here that the best way to combat IS is to acknowledge it and bring it out in the open. #devdiscuss
  • YGalanter Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Senior dev. Been with the company 10 years. Still think they will figure me out as a phony posing as a pro #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Also how do you walk the line between challenging yourself healthily and getting overwhelmed bc you're in way over your head? #devdiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    I think that a lot of bad interviewing/hiring practices come out of the insecurities of the interviewer, needing to appear smart #DevDiscuss
  • tjbarbour Nov 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev Relevant: https://t.co/Ko50IOvTUa by @robconery I haven't read myself, but comes recommended #devdiscuss #impostorsyndrome
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @robconery
  • Dmitrix_ Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev Tyson knows what's up. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
    • neiltyson Nov 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
      A great challenge of life: Knowing enough to think you're doing it right, but not enough to know you're doing it wrong.
  • WolvesbaneAcad Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev I have frequently questioned my capabilities but have learned to take stock in my accomplishments. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • ShawnConlin Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    @ThePracticalDev I have frequently questioned my capabilities but have learned to take stock in my accomplishments. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #ImposterSyndrome focuses on the vast unknown. Strategies to dissect & learn arm us against those insecurities. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @TheLarkInn
  • io_exception Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Yep, letting it discourage you isn't an option, make it your motivation to keep learning. #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    On that note, if you're interviewing as a coder, get the interviewer talking about themselves! Flatter them, they'll like you. #DevDiscuss
  • CrystationalBio Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Just realised I forgot to use the #DevDiscuss hashtag, my bad. Thank you for hosting a discussion on this, you're great :)
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    and being ok with not knowing something - its ultimately just knowing I don't know everything. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @itsradditude
  • littlebirdgirl Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    When the entire foundation of your industry is "how much do you know?", and then not quantified AT ALL, it is a HUGE problem #devdiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    I like this advice for getting out of your comfort zone #devdiscuss
    • edward_ribeiro Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
      At work it’s really complicated, but open source and your own side projects really help to get over this. Fail, rinse, repeat.
      In reply to @klovae
  • claudiordgz Nov 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    All deez badass web devs and I'm stuck on a JSP-JSTL system #DevDiscuss
  • High_Rigour Nov 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
    As soon as I 'get' something and level up It feels like being back in n00b land, because the new level is so much harder #devdiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
    I'm terrible at asking for help. It's why I never learned long division in third grade. #devdiscuss
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
    There are some really good reverse interview Qs for this. My fave is some variation of "what was your best moment at X company?" #devdiscuss
    • bendhalpern Nov 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
      On that note, if you're interviewing as a coder, get the interviewer talking about themselves! Flatter them, they'll like you. #DevDiscuss
  • ShawnConlin Nov 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A good way to gauge your skill is to get involved with group discussions so long as you remember that jargon != knowledge. #devdiscuss
  • leesdolphin Nov 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Saying that #impostorsyndrome motivates is cool It doesn't for me because I feel inadequate in people skills & MH issues #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I once had a sr dev tell me to stop asking questions and go find the answer. I don't ask for help much anymore #devdiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • GoldfishWarning Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    sometimes i feel like i know nothing so maybe i should learn something but then i get sad and sleep for 400 hours instead #devdiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Please don't conflate defending ideas w/ #ImposterSyndrome. Good defense shows you're NOT an imposter. (1/2) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @alluneediscode
  • robstanfield Nov 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss Time's a factor. Always needed for well thought out solution. Lack of enough of it can make you feel small.
  • TheLarkInn Nov 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
    totally, and you look know I love it because it's a neverending journey of learning and excitement. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @gumnos
  • High_Rigour Nov 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
    It feels like no matter how much I learn, the end of the knowledge hallway just keeps moving farther away #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
    I get being self sufficient, but we need to just get help to learn. Stack Overflow isn't always the best tool #devdiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • mtrujillodw Nov 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Retweeted Luis Miguel Delgado (@8vius): #DevDiscuss I'm the lead dev and everytime a new dev comes along I get... https://t.co/wIdCQnc4jv
    In reply to @8vius
  • michael__porter Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    My team always knows when I've made a mistake. It's a reflex now, and it's helped me rewrite some of my negative self-talk too #devdiscuss
  • gumnos Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    And ideas that can withstand scrutiny make for better results. I ♥ my QA team! (2/2) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @alluneediscode, @ThePracticalDev
  • eliezerbernart Nov 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I guess that depends on how much people are pressing you for doing something. Bigger the pressure, bigger the struggling #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @klovae
  • littlebirdgirl Nov 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Addendum: When this ^ is the core, publicly Not Knowing becomes a HUGE problem in our minds because that == job loss. #devdiscuss
  • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
    me in dev discussions #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ShawnConlin
  • klovae Nov 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Oh man I find Stack Overflow to be super dense and hard to sort through as a relative newbie. #devdiscuss
    • kellyjandrews Nov 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
      I get being self sufficient, but we need to just get help to learn. Stack Overflow isn't always the best tool #devdiscuss
      In reply to @bendhalpern
  • michael__porter Nov 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
    To clarify: it's because I've told them. And then we talk about how it gets/got fixed #devdiscuss
  • HussainiZul Nov 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    I always thought that my solution is not the best practice because I don't have someone to refer #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      What has been your experience with imposter syndrome throughout your career? Tell us your story. #DevDiscuss
  • sc_vaughn Nov 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    #devdiscuss @mobbsdev @DevDiscussHQ 30y, my career path won't fit; I just keep throwing myself at that next rung up!
    In reply to @mobbsdev, @DevDiscussHQ